Last night at an event hosted by the Richard Nixon Foundation to promote Lynne Cheney’s new book on James Madison, a young woman named Cassandra stood up and asked the Cheney’s about their thoughts on imprisoned whistleblower John Kiriakou.

Hi. You had mentioned how important it was to Madison, the freedom of conscience. So I’m wondering how you feel about the fact that John Kiriakou — the whistleblower who exposed the torture program — is the only one currently sitting in prison for it?

Lynne Cheney replied,

Well I mean I think there is — and the supreme court has wrestled with this too — you’re welcome to believe anything you want to, you’re welcome to say almost anything but what you can’t do is violate national security ordinances that would endanger the country. Edward Snowden is a case in point. I think he’s a traitor and I feel — it’s so — it does not bode well for our society that he’s being valorized for having betrayed his country.

Meanwhile, Dick Cheney — Vice President of the administration that made it an official policy to torture people — sat there in silence thanks to a system that put John Kiriakou in prison for telling the world about it.