The same basic dynamic that controlled the fight over the Bush tax cut extension deal is currently at play in the sequester fight, except this time the shoe is on the other foot.
Democrats wanted taxes increased and Republicans didn’t. Normally when there is a disagreement nothing happens, except the Bush tax cuts were set to expire anyway. Democrats were guaranteed to get their tax increase, even though both sides thought the increase was poorly designed. Republicans basically had only two choices: accept a smaller tax increase or be responsible for allowing a huge one to take place. Once the deadline was reached, the Republicans were forced to fold. That was a unique circumstance where the legislative status quo favored Democrats, so they “won.”
Now Republicans want all spending cuts and the Democrats don’t. This time it is a package of all spending cuts that is guaranteed to take place if nothing is done, even though all sides agree the cuts are poorly designed. Republicans seem to be banking on the fact that once the deadline is reached, Democrats are going to only have two options: adopt less indiscriminate replacement cuts or allow the poorly designed cuts to take place. The need for the new continuing resolution at the end of March will give Republicans a chance to replace the sequester with better designed cuts.
For years Democrats tried and failed to get Republicans to agree to tax increases by offering them spending cuts in exchange. It is absurd to think that now that Republicans have guaranteed spending cuts Democrats could somehow convince them to accept tax increases so that federal spending could be increased. This time the legislative status quo favors the Republican position, so they hold the leverage.
Why the White House ever thought preemptively giving away spending cuts would make the GOP more likely to agree to tax increases still remains a mystery.





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Mystery? Kabuki is an art form based in elaborate make-up and showmanship. We will get our austerity in drips and drabs as you see it happening in Greece and Europe. Both sides are working on the same plan. It is still 1% vs. 99%
How does someone get to be President of the U.S. and be this stupid?
“I will veto any effort to get rid of those automatic spending cuts to domestic and defense spending.” –Barack Obama, November 21, 2011
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57329146-503544/obama-pledges-to-veto-effort-to-undo-automatic-spending-cuts/
Because Obama is doing just what his pay masters and financial backers want him to do?
Because Obama is a good Corporatist and not really a Democrat, at least not a Democrat of the Democratic Wing of the Democatic Party?
Look at his actions — they speak immeasurably louder than his words.
Stupid, maybe. Naive as hell, absolutely.
Time for the Upton Sinclair quote:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
What’s a poor boy to do?
Teapublicans are all that stands between Social Security recipients and this President bent on gutting The New Deal and Darrel Issa defends internet freedom.Go figure!
Obama was for the sequester cuts before he was against them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj1y3q92sog
Rather ironic, isn’t it?
Stupid? Naive? Obama? Meh.
Quite canny and excellent at fulfilling the expectations of his actual base?
Just so. As 2010 drew to a close, letting the Bush era tax cuts expire was the easiest thing in the world to do. It got even easier after the 2010 elections, and the Democrats’ shellacking (which might not have happened if the Democrats had, you know, governed like Democrats).
Instead, we got treated to a tiresome chorus of “the will of the people, the will of the people” from our Republican friends, and the Democrats gutlessly extended the Bush tax cuts for another two years. Notice how we’re not hearing “the will of the people” in 2013 the way we did in 2011? I can’t imagine why that is, but both the Democrats and our good friends in the media have decided it’s something not worth saying anymore.
I predict the sequester will go into effect for a short time, millions of people (but nobody who really matters) will be adversely affected, and we will get another stop-gap, short-term bandage slapped on, set to expire in about a month or two, when we can go through the whole “crisis” charade again. Yeah, some people are going to get clobbered by this, some will even die, but as I said, it will be nobody who really matters. What will get play on the popular media will be horrific sob stories of how this reporter or that celebrity had to wait three hours at a major airport for a flight, subsisting on nothing but food and water.
When we say “the Democrats” we need to picture multi-millionaires at the same club with “the Republicans”. All servants to the .1% billionaires. There has been no “sea change” since the election. Until the stock market goes under 10,000 the low information boobus americanus well to do’s will follow the current plan.
“Why the White House ever thought preemptively giving away spending cuts would make the GOP more likely to agree to tax increases….”
You assume the WH doesn’t want the cuts. Obama will happily and readily trade the cuts on the table for the Medicare and SS cuts he really wants all the while crying “Look what those mean republicans made me do”?
And despite their posturing, his democratic lap dogs will follow meekly along.
Obama is neither stupid nor naive. No one who goes through the Chicago political scene could ever be one of those things. He got to be president by ensuring he had no competition, or that his competition was not electable, for every office up to that one. When he started out running for state office, he got the other candidates disqualified (though he may have lost his first bid, thus learning how to do things) and thrown off the ballot. When he ran for Senator in 2004, his Republican rival suddenly had to quit the race because his sealed divorce records – complete with sordid sex club trips he forced on his actress wife detailed – were made public, thus making him unelectable. The GOP choice to replace him – Alan Keyes – was not an Illinois resident and only moved here to run because the state party had imploded by then and couldn’t put up an electable candidate. In the run up to the 2008 presidential race, the Dems decided he needed to be their candidate instead of Hillary and did whatever was necessary to ensure his nomination. And we all know how the GOP with their McCain/Palin ticket ended. And again last year the GOP fielded an unelectable ticket. Thus, Obama became President, got re-elected and here we are.
Thank you.
Occam’s razor.
Also, I second the “kabuki” comment.
Well we need a “balanced” approach, donchaknow!
I see it very differently.
It is conventional Republican wisdom that you never raise taxes on anyone during a recession and we were still in a recession. (Still are, but that’s irrelevant to this discussion.)
If Obama had not wanted Republican economic advice, he would not have appointed Geithner as his Secretary of Treasury. I have zero doubt Geithner told Obama letting any of the tax cuts expire would be disastrous.
At any rate, in December, 2010, Obama did an end run around a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate and cut his own deal with McConnell, then presented it to a Democratic Congress as a fait accompli.
IOW, Democrats did not cave to Republicans in 2010. They caved to Obama.
And Obama is just following orders from…
Bingo.
The man said he is a 1980′s moderate Republican. Unfortunately, the fucker did not say that until after November 2012, but he did say it. Still, Democrats so desperately want to believe that he is FDR that they ignore that. They prefer to believe that he is stupid, naive, weak or whatever, even with the truth and his own words staring them in the face.
And I only wish this were limited to Obama. The DLC totally took over the Party after Clinton’s re-election.
Wake up and smell the center right Democrats. Clinton was center right. So was Gore. Kerry, the guy who supposedly threw a way his Vietnam War medals/ribbons converted to New Democrat. Obama is center right. The last two heads of the DNC have been center right.
I don’t think Obama is following orders from anyone. I think he takes very seriously things that some people say, Axelrod in particular. But, I think Obama ultimately makes his own decisions.
He is, as he said, a moderate Republican from the 1980s. I might even take take issue with “moderate,” and “from the 1980s” when it come to fiscal policy.
I don’t know if Obama’s taking orders from anyone or not, although I suspect he’s in the “club” of sorts that makes decisions for the benefit of the 1%.
But Obama is neither stupid, naive, timid or spineless.
Obama exhibits his very hearty spine constantly. It’s a very fiscally conservative spine that has no good will towards the 99%. But a very firm and strong “spine” indeed.
Figure it out. Obama’s really what’s considered a “Republican,” albeit there’s precious little difference between the 2 branches of the Corporatist UniParty.
Can’t agree. Obama is a tool. Big Pharma deal, All of the above energy policy, persevering willingness to cut SS and Medicare, Non prosecution (or investigation) of financial crimes and war crimes, total deference to the MIC etc. etc. He is not his own man.
The righties are loving the sequester seeing a big win. Taking the ax to the federal government has been their goal since Reagan. In the red states the wealthy and corporations have control. Crash that federal government and see fascism rise through the red states. The brown shirts are cheering today.
People don’t count because they think they live in fairy land where nothing can happen to the “good” guys with guns.
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B.H.Obama is a skilled politician who wins what POTUS Obama wants when Obama wants it.
>>> See ACA.
>>> See ObamaBush GWOT 2.0
>>> See Wall St. and see what Obama WH let happen to OccupyWS and Occupy etc.
>>> See Obama WH okaying post 2008 meltdown QE gaming while allowing house/home takebacks/stealing to continue unabated ( asset(s) looting ) while stopping any genuine attempts to stop/exclude/contain/make illegal what led to up 2008 Wall St./Big Banking MOs and meltdown(s).
>>> See Obama DOJ “can’t jail anyone except B.Manning” because plain to see B.Manning belongs in jail but G.W.Bush and Dick Cheney, Wall St. slicks and TooBigTooBentBanking gang(s)and execs do not — well plain to Obama DOJ anyway.
Could go on … point being the O/D zealots wanted Obama back in the WH in 2012 and now B.H.Obama(DLC)(MIC)(CIA)(WALL St.)(AHIP)(1%) is in the WH until Jan.2017 and will be doing what Obama does and is doing and gets done.
SS/MC? Cut and gut is what B.H.Obama wants and B.H.Obama( Maim/Kill SS/MC) likely will succeed too. B.H.Obama has done innocents death dealing. Wants to steal SS money and kill MC to make way to AHIPC. B.H.Obama — not B.Manning — belongs in a jail. Will not happen. Justice not being done.
Justice and Obama DOJ? A big chuckle.
O/D zealots wanted a Team D Win! Obama duped/has duped O/D zealot political simpletons because Obama(DINO) plays to win what Obama wants to win and the O/D zealots let Obama do it because IOKIYAAD and the simpleminded Team D Must Win! junk… too late now O/D zealots … you got played by Obama bigtime. O/D zealots now own what comes with Obama in the WH until 2017 being they wanted B.H.Obama’s LO2E political sell/junk. Denying this will not make it go away/hide what O/D zealots made possible with Obama 2012 WH win.
Expecting these same O/D zealots to likely go all H.Clinton(DLC)Team D Zeal! by 2016.
Simpletons.
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Obama still wants his grand bargain. But he will settle for just SSMM cuts. He says he doesn’t want the sequester but he lies. He wants entitlement cuts instead. He will get it.
This whole sequester thing came into being in the first place because of the Democrats gutless response to letting the Bush Tax cuts expire when they we due to expire. If they had done the right thing in the first place, we wouldn’t have this mess now. History repeats over and over, no one learns because it’s about them and not society as a whole. We are doomed.
Not all of them. My governor has done everything other than get down on bended knee asking DC to PLEASE not let this happen. That’s what happens though when your state is heavily reliant on Federal dollars and the DoD in particular. The only state that gets it worse than Virginia is California. They’re well and totally screwed too.
I figure if we continue to repeat this for about 20 years we might get enough people to consider the idea we should do something different. :/
Tuesday morning is Drone Decision Day!
Mind yer manners, or y’all might be next.
Actually I thought he said it when he was making his victory speech on Election Day in 2008. He was a Regan Republican, or some such. It was late here at the Jersey shore. I went to bed.
And he made that speech at Grant Park. Grant. Park. My god.
Either way, he held back until after he was elected, and then never mentioned it during the reelection campaign. I didn’t vote for Reagan and I wasn’t voting for a “Reagan Democrat” (a/k/a Republican) in 2012.
I’m not saying Hillary was a raging liberal. Part of the problem with the Dem Party is that the left of the Dem Party is to the right of where the liberal Republicans were when I was young. I’m just saying at least he could have said it before he got elected, and had he said it in the primaries, maybe we would have had the discussion we still haven’t had: how different IS the 2000s Democratic Party from the 1980′s Reagan Republicans.
Wow…I totally get what’s going on with the sequester now…astute observation, Jon walker, and excellent discussion.