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Plurality in Arkansas Are Slack-jawed Yokels.

even after being told the federal government would pay most of the cost

Maybe the good people of Arkansas understand that the federal government would pay the cost by taxing the people of Arkansas.

Calling them good people is an insult to good people everywhere.

Tell me how your tax contribution has increased to pay for Medicaid expansion?

Many liberals claim that popular support and lobbying pressure will eventually force these governors to relent, but that may not be the case.

Public opinion and dutiful Americans ended segregation, irrespective of imposed political garbage!!!!

It is not a left or right issue. It is not a conservative vs liberal issue. It is a Rights issue. Human beings vs a legal entity created by law, entitled corporations. Which law cannot control. As slave owners attempted to destroy the republic and protect a way of life predicated on another’s servitude, Corporations will and have decimated this Republic to protect their crack addiction cash cows, all enabled by Congress and corporate money! Let’s eat our own………………

A major difference between Democratic and Republican politicians is that the positions of Democrats are affected by polling, whereas the positions of Republicans have effects on the polling.

As Bill Maher put it, if the polling isn’t going the Republicans’ way, they take the attitude of, “don’t worry; we’ll change it.”

The first real polling in a red state on the issue of whether or not the state should expand Medicaid indicates for now these Republican governors opposing expansion aren’t likely to pay a real political price for their stance. In Arkansas a plurality don’t want Medicaid expanded even after being told the federal government would pay most of the cost, according to a new Talk Business-Hendrix College Poll:

Arkansas has a democratic governor who supports the expansion.

42.5% Yes
46.5% No
11% Don’t Know

The demographics of the responders would be very interesting, by party affiliation, income and race.

Hey Al…… I do not trust government at all. State or Federal. However I distrust corporations even more as the money extracted from USA is utilized to craft law to protect the business models which bring Americans reduced value all the fucking time, for the money earned and purchase power of that earned money decimated by $147.50 oil, $4.65 diesel fuel, $4.25 gasoline and other corporate rape models….

Yes most goods and services require transportation and the cost we really pay for this servitude is hidden, much as the cost society pays for the lies from the CANCER STICK PURVEYORS OF DEATH? You have allowed yourself to be brown-shirted.

Medicaid is paid for by the Federal government out of general tax revenues.

Although I can understand your point. If you don’t pay federal taxes, you won’t have to contribute to Medicaid expansion.

The first real polling in a red state

Which means you can walk down the street and hear “All Rush, all the time” except for when they have Hannity on.

So their opinions have no basis in reality to begin with.

Have they polled Arkansans if they would like to see slavery reinstated?

It is a reliable red state in presidential elections and likely to have similar opinions to other Southern states that vote Republican.

Not sure what the brown shirting thing is, but I do think the poll question would be more honest if it were to state “The expansion would be fully funded for several years by the federal government (out of federal general revenues paid by taxpayers) with the state incurring up to 10% of the cost later(out of statwe general revenues paid by taxpayers).

Not necessary.

Are you saying “stupid minds think alike”?

I’d bet the numbers reek of racism and sexism just as segregation was predicated on bigotry? Meanwhile state based health insurance corporations with geographical monopolies, make billions of dollars off the unfortunate circumstances of life beyond the control of those suffering from legalized discrimination, now ended. A good thing IMHO. But you can be sure adaptation will occur and a way to circumvent the intent of the law, will be done!

“All men are created equal…,” is an illusion when reality is considered, especially when Americans allow themselves to be brown shirted by media’s corporate sponsored political talking points. Next we all be tossed small pox infected blankets to stay warm while home heating oil reaches $4.00 a gallon, considering they could not gouge us last year as much with the warm winter weather, even though they tried…..

If the Brownshirt fits, wear it.

So you admit that your original comment at 3 was utter bullshit? Inflammatory right-wing talking point bullshit?

It is necessary.

Do we really need to turn polling questions into School House Rocks episodes? Do registered voters need an explanation of where governments get their money every time someone asks a question?

But you can be sure adaptation will occur and a way to circumvent the intent of the law, will be done!

We are resourceful society. And when you “own” the government, adaptation is very easy.

You know what they say,”man descended from apes and has been descending ever since”.

Thank you Rush and Hannity and Beck and Palin and Bachmann and……….

The point you made in your diary indicated that you assumed Arkansas had a republican governor.

Both its house and senate are controlled by democrats, as well as the governorship.

Kerry received 45% of its vote and Gore received 46%. Obama did poorly at least partially as a result of his defeating homer Hillary Clinton.

But it is not a typically southern state politically.

I agree with your point that republican governors wont pay much of a price politically for opposition to the expansion.

I’ll call Hendrix College.

THis shouldn’t take long.

There will be a backlash when middle-class folks find out that grandma cannot get Medicaid to pay for her nursing home care. As long as the question continues to get framed as “health care for poor people”, the results are predictable.

I dont think this is a problem and I’ll tell you why.

I,m pretty sure that a majority of people in Arkansa don’t know what a “plurality” is.

Agreed, Excellent analysis.

I do not embrace evolution. The “Ancient Alien Theory,” intervention, makes much more sense. In fact we see it everyday as the animal in us, eats our own, in spite of underlying abundance of knowledge we posses, but don’t use to better the human condition these days….

Immaculate conceptions and Ascensions are witnessed much today. It is, artificial insemination and launching rockets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_insemination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension

Might be time for another intervention. “Another small step for man but giant step for mankind?” But we would probably kill the messenger as has been done time after time here on earth… Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Might want to ask George Wallace about that?

So run another poll with a real solution among the options. Include the Feds extending the 100% subsidy indefinitely for all states. Pair that with a hold harmless to the states for such — that part is technically unenforceable, but still a political statement. So it would be difficult to welch upon, and clearly a Fed responsibility.

The benefits include signing up all the states, since there will be neither real nor imagined reasons not to participate. No excuses, either. The Feds would have a better shot at standardizing the quality of care as well. It could also serve as a step toward eventual single payer.

A big deal has been made about the smallness of the 10% state contribution in the out years, and stingy governors. Since that’s the case, and now that there’s no penalty/incentive to drive the states toward expansion, it makes sense for the Feds to take on that additional amount. It should appeal to all states of any hue.

Informed voters don’t need the explanatory information. But there’s a whole lot of slacker free riders who could be swayed by push-poll language indicating that someone else is paying the freight. Which is probably true.

Can we get the South to succeed from the Union? I am not trying to be funny but they are different from us. Their culture is different. Its like comparing the Pigmys to the Swedes. Our lives would be so much different if we could shake the south.

Pigmys to the Swedes.

Oops, your slip is showing.

hmmmmm “slacker free riders”…”informed by push polls”..you just decribed 75% of the texas republican party alan.

Heh. I was going to mention organizations like Empower Texans and Texans For Fiscal Responsibility. You beat me to it.

I’ll owe you a drink.

“But there’s a whole lot of slacker free riders who could be swayed by push-poll language indicating that someone else is paying the freight.”

Man you really like stepping into the brown dung left by brown-shirts? How does it feel when warm rancid shit comes oozing up between your toes?

So my 19 year old niece diagnosed with diabetes after almost dying, who cannot find gainful employment, hence insurance or the means to pay a $500 dollar a month premium is a slacker? Your fucking demented…….

Agreed.

The study last month that showed a minimum wage full time worker cannot afford a 2 bedroom apartment in any state in this country was eye-opening. 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month, not even enough to cover rent.

Yet the Cadillac-driving Welfare Queen myth persists among those like alan. ‘Slacker free riders’ my fucking ass. Being ‘on the county’, as they used to say, is a miserable fucking existence.

I intended it to……

Is there even such a thing as “county help” anymore????

Do they even have health insurance in Texas? I understand that most of the state is not insured………for anything.

20-25% uninsured 2009-2010 according to this chart, which says it’s based on US Census.
Edit: Texas – was reply to metro222@41

Sure, then I conclude that the “south” would have proportionately more people who can spell “secede”, because you would probably not be in “the south”.

The distinction was “informed voters” vs. those who think “fully funded by the federal government” means “free”.

I don’t know your niece, you make the call.

Didn’t know that you had to have perfect spelling to participate on this site….asshole

You fall into the same trap (or tell the same lies) as everyone else.

Feds extending the 100% subsidy indefinitely

No such thing.

Kris, see what I mean. Some people really believe Fed funding is free money.

Except that Arkansas is probably one of the states that receives more in Federal tax dollars than they contribute.

The biggest Welfare Queens in USA,Inc. are all corporate, but the only entities publicly vilified are those living in poverty. The corporate coup has succeeded.

Hate to break it to you, but outside of urban and urban adjacent areas this attitude is the rule rather than the exception.

Hey, you are the one who wants to shake loose from people who are “different” than you. I figured that was one of the differences. Touchy, I guess.

From what I could find, Arkansas receives $1.41 for every dollar sent to DC. But looking at the poll in the light you’ve introduced, 465% of the people in Arkansas don’t want to pay more taxes, and 42,5% want to get more federal money.

That meshes rather nicely with the number of people (on average in the U.S) who pay federal income taxes to the General Fund (which is where Medicaid funds come from) vs. those who pay no federal income taxes (acknowledged, they pay lots of other taxes, etc.).

So let me adjust my comment at #3.

Maybe the good people of Arkansas [who pay federal income taxes] understand that the federal government would pay the cost by taxing those people of Arkansas [who pay federal income taxes].

For everyone else, you’re right, it’s free money.

Not just different, but Pigmys vs. Swedes different.

Not touchy…..realistic

Hey get some Health Insurance will you so we don’t have to pick up the tab for you…….SLACKER.

All those dollars are fungible, regardless, whether they all come from the Feds (to maintain that leverage), or 10% of it from the states in the out years.

It’s not a trap or a lie, since the total should remain the same. If it wouldn’t work, then the original premise (pre Roberts) is bogus as well.

George Wallace won the democratic presidential primaries in Maryland and Michigan in 1972.

Hubert Humphrey carried Texas in 1968.

Times change.

If you had any awareness of southern politics, Arkansas has always stood out with a strain of democratic populism that has withstood at least some of the gopper southern strategy.

Does your state have a democratic governor and democratic party control of both houses?

I think that Arkansas is a poor example for this diary. Given the present composition of the state government, it would seem unlikely that Arkansas would vote down the medicaid expansion.

See Kris, all the money comes from the government, either the feds or the states, non from the tax payers. It’s all free money.

Of course it comes from the taxpayers ultimately. Write a check to pay the IRS, or write it to the state’s DOR. Once it’s gone, you can”t spend it again, but one of them will.

Who’s on first. . .? got it?