M.I.T. Economist Jonathan Gruber continues to leave people radically less informed about the real health care cost issue in this country with public statements that frankly make no sense. The latest example is from a Washington Post article about Massachusetts’ attempts to control health care cost.
“Cost control isn’t easy,” said M.I.T. economist Jon Gruber, who advised Romney on the 2006 reform law. “On this cost control stuff, we have to be exceedingly humble. We’ve got to bend that curve eventually, and it’d be nice if it was sooner rather than later, but right now there’s too much impatience.”
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“We don’t know the answers” about the best way to control health-care costs, Gruber said. “We just have to experiment, and be patient.”
It is not like there are, say, 25 other first world countries that provide equal or better quality health care but for a fraction of the cost we pay that we can examine to learn how to make health care in this country cheaper… oh wait there are.

Comparative health care spending, Commonwealth Fund
While I guess it’s true in some abstract sense that it’s impossible to know the absolute best way to control cost, we have a plethora of real world examples of how to control cost radically better than we do here.
Given that the big driver of USA health care cost is not higher utilization rates but the fact the price we pay for the exact same treatments is radically higher, we should look at why other countries pay less for the exact same medicines, tests and procedures. The answer is simple. In other countries there is a single price negotiated for a particular treatment.
This is either simply the price the government agrees to pay in single-payer systems or a price all insurance companies, together with the government, decide to reimburse at in an all-payer set up. Not only does this monopsony purchasing power result in lower prices, it also eliminates the massive administration waste created by our system where people get a discount for paying in cash so hospitals can avoid the endless fights based on different prices charged each insurance company, government program, and individual.
Given the decades of international and national data, there should be no doubt single-payer or all-payer systems are huge proven steps we could take to radically control cost. Of course the industry players don’t want this, because it means lower profits. But that is exactly why it is incredibly unhelpful to have so-called “experts” pretend the reason we don’t have lower cost is because there is a great mystery here. They instead need to admit it is simply a problem of politicians unwilling to oppose industry lobbying (and loss of compaign funding) to adopt a proven solution.
I know I should expect no less than this nonsense from Gruber. After all this man was actively selling the Affordable Care Act to journalists, while not disclosing that he was paid hundreds of thousands by the Obama administration, by claiming this:
My summary is it’s really hard to figure out how to bend the cost curve, but I can’t think of a thing to try that they didn’t try. They really make the best effort anyone has ever made. Everything is in here….I can’t think of anything I’d do that they are not doing in the bill. You couldn’t have done better than they are doing.
Not only did the Affordable Care Act not contain single payer or all-payer, but it also purposely excluded provisions that the CBO said would reduce cost, like drug re-importation, because a deal was made with the drug lobby to keep their prices artificially high. Gruber has a long history of working hard to promote the idea that proven progressive cost control ideas don’t exist.




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All I can say is that it is a shame that these ferrets can always be employed. Either at a University, or a Think Tank, or inside Industry, or at the executive level of one of our many non-functioning agencies.
Your writing illustrates the fundamental problem. And until we restore the nation to a democratic process, I don’t know what can be done. Deciding which end of the Obamoney ticket to vote for doesn’t offer any hope. Or any change.
Such is life in 2012, inside the “greatest” little plutocracy on earth.
Gruber has a long history of
working hardbeing paid to promote the idea that proven progressive cost control ideas don’t exist.This is the same kind of crappy “answer” that we’re now getting shoved down our throats on the Dodd-Frank/JPM shenigans: “It’s too complicated for you rubes, so just shut up and hunker down. We the 1% have everything under control. Nothing to see here.”
“the price we pay for the exact same treatments is radically higher, we should look at why other countries pay less for the exact same medicines, tests and procedures. The answer is simple. In other countries there is a single price negotiated for a particular treatment”
yes, thats it..and for people like grubber thats unthinkable..thats why they always ignore it….
You have to wonder how a moron like Gruber got hired at what used to be a pretty respectable Econ Dept. I could say the same about certain names at Harvard, but will keep quiet out of respect for the (brain) dead.
Glad you’re staying on top of Gruber’s useless idiocy, Jon. He’s sure to continue to surface as Obamacare crashes and burns. We need to track his statements as well as his income, because he’s dangerously credentialed and accredited.
Thank you.
Hey Knut ,you might want to check out Charles Ferguson on Democracy Now .5-19 ,to better understand why progressives disregard modern macroeconomic theory ..
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Sometimes a prestigious degree is a signpost pointing to a source of wisdom and/or knowledge. Other times, it is like this – the badge of the credentialed charlatan, the unprincipled medicine show huckster with his patent medicines and glib line of bullshit, whose only purpose is to deceive.
Gruber is what Obama is all about ,and pretty much symbolizes why Obama could easily lose ,if the pubs drive a hypocrisy wedge between populist rhetoric and the conservative elites among whom he finds likeminded comfort .
Its not cost control that’s needed, it’s PRICE control. Price is the cost plus the profit. We have two many layers of supply in the medical care chain, each adding too much profit margin for itself. Everybody along the line thinks they should not only prosper reasonably, but get rich. They have been enabled to add on as much profit as they like because they have monopoly control of the market.
I’ve heard Gruber on NPR, he’s an arrogant piece of crap. He’s clueless and really thinks people like Obamacrap care I mean. He’s knows damn well everyone but people like him want a single payer and also damn well why we don’t have a prayer of ever getting one. He’s nothing more then a well paid and Health benefited shill for the Health Lobby.
That’s why he gets a platform on NPR.
CNN did a piece the other day on health care reform. It was full of warm, smelly, neoliberal crapola, such as Gruber’s claim that patients should be “better shoppers” and pay more out of pocket and with one
paid shillcommentator claiming the rightwing canard that all people needed was catastrophic insurance. No one seemed to mention the fact that:If paying more out of pocket lowered health care costs, then:
a) The US’s health care inflation would have *decreased*, not accelerated, over the past 30-odd years because patients have done just that;
b) The US would be the *low cost leader* instead of the high cost one, as we pay more out of pocket than anyone else.
And of course there’s the typical “bad American lifestyles” harangue. Never mind that Brits and Europeans oft think that Americans are health freaks and that the former smoke more and drink heavily and have all sorts of bad health habits even more than we, yet they outlive us because they get good cradle-to-grave health care and we don’t.
-stewartm