Sometimes I’m truly blown away with how a friendly reporter will spin what is clearly something wrong committed by a powerful leader and turn it into some virtue. No recent example is more jaw dropping than this line from a recent New York Times report about Obama’s use of drones written by Jo Becker and Scott Shane.
A phalanx of retired generals and admirals stood behind Mr. Obama on the second day of his presidency, providing martial cover as he signed several executive orders to make good on campaign pledges. Brutal interrogation techniques were banned, he declared. And the prison at Guantánamo Bay would be closed.
What the new president did not say was that the orders contained a few subtle loopholes. They reflected a still unfamiliar Barack Obama, a realist who, unlike some of his fervent supporters, was never carried away by his own rhetoric. Instead, he was already putting his lawyerly mind to carving out the maximum amount of maneuvering room to fight terrorism as he saw fit.
*emphasis mine
This is a simply shameful line bordering on outright propaganda. A person is never going to be “carried away” by their own rhetoric. It is their rhetoric after all. Instead it is supposed to be their public statement of principles and promises that all of us should expect them to live up to. On this issue Obama didn’t live up to the letter or spirit of his rhetoric; he just lied, or at the very least he actively misled or deceived voters. Those are the words that should be use to describe this situation, not “realist.”
If Obama always thought these “realist” policies were best, he had the democratic duty to actually run on them instead of actively hiding them from voters. If after taking office Obama thought realities on the ground called for him to break his promise, he should be called to account. He should first be forced to knowledge he broke our trust and than try to defend why he felt he needed to do so.
It is sickening to treat some nebulous group of “fervent supporters” as the ones in the wrong for actually believing Obama when he made promises to them. Politicians are only rarely called to account for breaking their promises, but to have reporters spin breaking a promise as some true virtue of toughness is part of what is deeply wrong with our politics. The powerful grant special interviews to the media and not only are their faults ignored but they’re transformed into proofs of greatness.




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bordering on?
puleaaaaaaaaaaaze
Hey Jo and Scott, take this wet-wipe, and clean off your noses.
I find myself using the word “liar” an awful lot with him. I completely fail to understand who is going to vote for someone as dishonest as Obama appears to be. One always dislikes traitors far more than actual enemies; someone needs to tell him that.
One very small correction:
“Lied, Lies, will be Lying,” would be a little more comprehensive and accurate.
You beat me to the comment.
I’d go further, what Obama has done, as least AFAIC, is to have taken a huge chunk of what trust I have left in our political system.
Will there be anyone at all who I can trust to vote for based upon what a candidate says in campaign speeches?
I still have faith in the people I support from within my state, but jeez, at the federal level? All down the crapper, thanks to Obama.
The reporters quoted?
Bobo wannabees.
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2012/05/corrosive.html
Hahaha, we Obama supporters sure were stupid to believe what Obama said! We deserve to be shamed for that!
My first hint was when Pelosi took Impeachment off the table. Since that day I would not have crossed the street to spit on her if her hair were on fire. Unfortunately, my attitude towards the Democratic leadership has only gotten worse since then.
I agree with you. Lack of trust in Democrats is going to be their legacy…well, that and a bankrupt police state run by wealthy bankers…
As This Modern World’s Sparky once commented, “A promise is a Delayed-Action, Time-Released lie.”
Superb, powerful, and very honest post, Jon!
Your last paragraph depicts our current political “reality” perfectly.
Much appreciated.
DW
The corporate media considers cynicism a virtue. And the writers bask in their ability to wink at statements like this one. Lying in Washington is considered a virtue if it is done well and for “good results”.
What is missing from the article is what those military leaders who were the props at the photo op had advised the President to do. Leadership still depends on followership. Remember what Truman said about Eisenhower:
I disagree that we should be shamed. We had just been through eight years of Bush and Darth and we needed to believe. We wanted to believe that we were better than that. I knew that Obama couldn’t do ALL the things he promised but I never imagined that he wouldn’t do any of them. He turned out to be a simple liar – end of story.
Obama is an insane chickenhawk warmonger who has gone complete Full Metal Jacket (“Anyone that runs, is a VC. Anyone that stands still, is a well trained VC.”):
Obama clearly wants to be known as the Assassinator-In-Chief who wants to get rid of the Judicial Branch, since all that is needed for Due Procdss is his insane majesty, not the courts.
“My first hint was when Pelosi took Impeachment off the table”
Yes and as I said at the time and still believe now was that it was done for self-interest, not to protect Bush. To impeach Bush for what he did would have also meant to impeach Obama, who is doing the same things and worse. The Democrats aren’t weak-kneed, just acting out of self-interest, just they prefer to do these things in some backroom secretly, while Republicans are more forthcoming about their intent to do the same things as the Democrats.
Its not that either party have any moral preference at all, it is all just branding they advertise to the base. The political “product” – the actual constitutional authority inherited from our ancestors and conferred by our votes – is sold to finance capitalists; defense and banking industry lobyyists from around the world.
You are right! It was complicity that led them to renege on their pledges then and it is complicity now which has led them all into joining the ranks of war criminals that they so sanctimoniously decry whenever someone they claim they don’t like does the exact same things.
Pity someone pulled the curtain away and now they just look like the pathetic poseurs they are. Which is not to say that the Republicans they hide behind aren’t worse, but at least Reps are honest about their sociopathy. I guess that is a silver lining, of sorts.
The lies, fraud and deceit…
Committed by Barack Obama against the American people… is sickening beyond belief.
Obama is a complete scam.
Lies and deceit is all Obama has… thats it… there is nothing more to the guy.
It’s not bordering on propaganda…
It’s propaganda… period.
Thing is, Obama said “torture” was bad. But “assassination” is different from torture. So Obama didn’t lie. He’s just being “lawyerly.” Yay for The Chosen One!
My suggestion for dealing with the Media-Industrial-Complex is to reduce the number of federal student loans offered for journalism… forcing newspapers to hire high school grads who actually know the beat they cover. Over time, we may see a return of real investigative journalism at the local, state and even federal levels.
What acts must befell We the People before we can start quoting:
?
After his flip-flop on FISA, is anyone really surprised at what followed?
I sure wasn’t. The ease with which he made that change told me that he had no principles.
Perhaps this experience with Obama’s duplicity will be of some value by reorienting your perspective in.re. our corrupted political system. We are the prisoners of a duopoly that exists to benefit the wealthy minority and our (s)elected “leaders” are the willing puppets of the oligarchs. This has been true for at least the last 30+ years and will continue for the foreseeable future. It’s a harsh lesson, but at least you won’t be living under the illusion (the matrix) that these people’s function is to further your interests, rather than theirs and their masters.
Adding:
But even after this article, Jon will continue to post about the electoral race, and we will continue to see a chart of the projected electoral vote race between Zero and his evil twin, Romney. And we will get articles about the prospects for the Dems to hold onto the Senate, or recapture the House, or whatever.
Same here.
Also his praise of Reagan early on.
Foolish for believing the first time…
Brain Dead Stupid if anyone still believes… and even worse if anyone votes for him again.
Anyone voting for Obama The Liar-Fake-Fraud-Creep… in the coming election… is now an active participant in corruption… and an active participant in the destruction of our country.
It not only spoke volumes about him, it spoke volumes about the Dem party. I only recall Feingold taking Obama to task for FISA. Pelosi, Reid and HRC certainly didn’t say anthing.
That was the same clue that led to my distrust of Obama. Then I learned that he’d requested Joe “Israel” Lieberman as his Senate mentor and he admired Reagan for bringing back stability to the country after the turbulent 60′s and 70′s, the years that were typified by anti-war demonstrations and the legislation that guaranteed civil rights. He’s every bit the poseur I refused to vote for and more.
Thank you…
You bring up VERY important point.
Now Feingold is one of the chairmen for Obama’s reelection campaign and is actively stumping for him, professing his satisfaction with Obama’s policies. Now I know why Feingold chose to name his PAC “Progressives United”, rather than “United Progressives”. Support for Obama from an organization known as “PU” is much more appropriate than “UP”.
Great quote… great comment… truth.
My suggestion is to stop voting for corrupt, liars.
I think Yogi Berra said that. It was him or Henry Kissinger.
Feingold… a corrupt lying politician… shilling for another corrupt lying politician. Judas.
You know what they say, “Fool me once I’m the fool. Fool me twice”…no dammit, I just can’t seem to get that right anymore.
Not to argue, but I LIKE charts, and graphs. And political arguments. And the designated hitter. Don’t take that away from me. :-)
Supporting Obama does seem pretty ridiculous on his part. But as even Jane has made clear… when push comes to shove, they all play for the same team. :(
My one exception is Ron Paul. He’s never been too interested in what the bosses newest dictate is.
Kinda OT…but how may retired generals make up “a phalanx”???? It’s not in Wiki.
well, it’s not like he had a choice. Nobody would give him a jersey.
FWIW, I’ve always seen that quote attributed to Goebbels. Hence, my question. Appropriate or inappropriate? Strong? Yes. And I mean no analogy to what his fellow murderers did, but… Goebbels was a master of propaganda. And in terms of America being propagandized, I do think there’s a fair analogy.
Jane made that clear…?
Thats what she thinks…?
I can’t remember the post, but I remember her even taking Bernie to task on something recently (maybe two or three mos ago). I obviously don’t want to put words in her mouth, but I’m sure others here can attest to the basic point I’m making.
I think the main point was that, in the end, they all rollover… and do not stand on principle.
Too bad Paul’s position on domestic policies is so destructive, disgusting, and corporate, except for his take on the FED. His foreign policy is exemplary.
Well, Levin feels like there is no need to extend rendition protections to American citizens in spite of the courts having found Congress’ law unconstitutional, and there is a Bill in the works written up by the Pentagon which would allow them to propagandize the citizenry….
Given that context the quote seems entirely appropriate. Godwin no longer seems applicable in these circumstances.
All right then….you’re probably right. Sounds more like him than Yogi. The German accent fooled me.
Difficult going through life half genuis, half nutjob.
Shoot… I had a brain freeze and completely forgot why I had the word “propaganda” in mind. I had been thinking about it since I saw mention of the bill to institutionalize propaganda as a tool to “protect” the Homeland.
He was the first person I thought of when our gov’t started using the term “Homeland.” I still get chills every time I hear it.
Thats the sickening reality we are dealing with.
Better than going thru life as Gollem, searching for “Precious” (aka “power”) as the rest of the Gang of 535 do.
What happened to this site. It has become a hot bed for anything that is against the President. Jane would come on various TV shows and many of us could not wait for her comments. Now it’s all seem it’s become a purely Republican Site in that it’s all this severe dislike of the President.
What happened.
For those with this type of what can only be vitrol how do you plan to vote.
This election we have 3 choices
Stay Home
Vote Republican
VOte Democrat
Perhaps we are not reviewing the same budgets proposed by the Republican Party that is dismantling the Poor, Medicare, Madicaid, Meal On Wheels for the elderly those in their 70-80 have been told to just find a job.
Our children’t education cut to shreds already, Womens Health issues even to telling us what we can’t do with our bodies.
I’m not sure that the actual issues are being considered
But perhaps if not Republican you simply plan to stay home ensuring that our country is completely turned upside down giving to the wealthy who have food to put on the table and the Meals on Wheels Elderly who will have their meal taken away.
This election is about a choice, if the intent to continue this negative every single article about the President, then it is clear you goal is to ensure that Republicans do indeed implement the Ryan Budget that would cripple the nation.
Mr. Romney’s Budget is twice as bad and would do even more damage.
Our children are in need of education and that system is being dimantled before our eyed, our teachers, firefighters, policemen the very people we depend on to help us protect us are in the struggle of their lives.
Yet day after day I hear nothing of the real issues on occasion, but the overwhelming majority is ensuring that people are put in place that will surely significantly severly hurt millions of families
You have to ask yourself, do you realize this is about millions of families, perhaps yours is doing fine but what about those suffering lost their retirement, homes, jobs, under the very Budget being proposed todya by the Republicans and they plan to re-implemen it again only this time as Mr. Romney has said day one he plans to get rid of “All Regulations” that got us into the very mess we are in.
This President though not perfect has been in office 3 years, jobs were bleeding at 750,000 a month and we have had 24 months of job creation,, Retirement have been restored, college tution banks were removed thus giving our children more educational funds, women rights with Lillyledbetter have been changed significantly and every Republican voted against Minimum Wage Laws, 911 Responder Bill after having many who have alread died they had to fight an entire party to get their medical bills paid and just to get the help they needed yet Republicans use them as Trophys
One has to ask, what is the mission, negative and pointing out what you preceive as mistakes are fine but a 24 hour negative complaint while I have yet to see One Articel about the Republican proposal and the impact adversly it would have on many of the very people responding to your articles.
It’s just very sad because I am one of many who loved Jane’s Balance on this site and to read this startling new position which hurts millions of families if not explained in a manner that people are not undnermining their own sef-interest is not responsible in my opinion.
I sincerely hope that this site will begin to address those many budgets, and bills adversely affecting American families and the impact of these budget for the Rich if implemented.
After all when all is said and done it’s the impact on the American people that must be anyone first priority.
Loopholes?
Obama started killing Pakistanis from the get-go, just like he said he would. That’s on promise that he DID keep.
Tough talk on Pakistan from Obama
Wed Aug 1, 2007
Obama said if elected in November 2008 he would be willing to attack inside Pakistan with or without approval from the Pakistani government, a move that would likely cause anxiety in the already troubled region.
“If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will,” Obama said.
Of course Obama has enjoyed his killing so much that “high-value terrorist targets” have diminished to “military-age males and others” but killing is killing, once one gets a taste for it.
Stay home, obviously.
Why would anyone vote for Obama? The man has zero character and he makes a fool of anyone who votes for him.
We actually have more choices than you state; there are third parties for whom we could vote. While I do not think you will like this answer, one of the reasons that you see such vitriol is that, in actuality, there is very little that is recognizable of the Democratic platform in the actions of Party leadership of late.
Many of us did not agree to agree with Republicans when we voted for these people because we found them reprehensible. Many of us, therefore, do not care to give our mandate for their policies. You admit to a struggle that patently did not have to happen. Whether it is continued education privatization, the expanded GWOT and its’ attendant civil liberties infringements or bringing Social Security into budget considerations, these are all Republican ideas that were voluntarily embraced by Democratic leadership.
To vote for one is to vote for the other, in other words, and that is something that many of us just cannot bring ourselves to do.
Jo Becker and Scott Shane aren’t journalists. They’re fawning courtiers in the mold of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.
Welcome, Concern Troll. Stay as long as you like and make yourself at home.
Your false claim of only 3 choices… is a LIE…!
I will be voting… but NOT for any Democrats or Republicans…
I REFUSE to participate in corruption…
I REFUSE to reward and praise lying and deceit…
I REFUSE to hand over my most precious gift [MY VOTE, given to all of us by our forfathers]…to a bunch of crooks.
You obviously have chosen the cowardly path… you have chosen to kick your claimed “beliefs” into the dirt… and then spit on those same claimed “beliefs”… and sold out your country in the process.
Which of course means you believe in NOTHING… you are a sellout.
NOT ME… I stand up for what I believe in.
If you want it you got to fight for it,
Wake up you’ll never contain it.
Stand for something!
Or you’ll fall for anything.
The massacre in Syria was a crime?
Obama has been doing that for three years in various countries, including assassinating an American in Yemen.
Obama is a criminal and doesn’t deserve either monetary or electoral support.
Thats a very good point you made about traitors.
Obama revealed himself, through his policies, that he was just another puppet of the oligarchs and that his rhetoric was lies. The majority at this site are reality based(objective as opposed to subjective) and won’t fall for his crap. This site is vehemently non-partisan and treats all elected officials accordingly. Time for you to wake up and acknowledge the fact that there’s only one party that’s intent on enriching the PTB at our expense, or remain delusional. The choice is yours. You may be more comfortable at DailyKos where slavish devotion to Obama is de rigeur.
I’m surprised they didn’t use the term “Fatherland’ instead. Guess it didn’t test as well.
Obie got worse…we need to vote for Rs so Dems will oppose them
hahhahahahaha
ya know what happened to them…R&G
Heh. I’d be willing to bet that they ruled out “Motherland” as well because of it’s Russian connotations. Like Goldilock’s beds, this one, like you say, must have push-polled juuuuussssst right.
The electorate ain’t that bright, but at least they are brighter than that. They aren’t going to get into bed with just anybody! :)
Is this redstate.com ??? Heh.
No… you’re stuck in the red-blue thingy…
There’s people here who can think for themselves.
You are so right about this deal with Pelosi. If ever there was a reason to believe that the Two Parties are in collusion with one another, that was one day when many of us realized how valid our internal beliefs were.
I did enjoy the picture of you not crossing the street.
So while “impeachment is off the table,” what activities did our Democratic-led Congress decide to work on? Why, raising the postal rates for small businesses, while adjusting the postal payment tier favorably for Time-Warner. The pisser for me is that my home business relies on US postal rates.
Pooh (PU) is better than UP?
Not for long if it is always referred to as Pooh.