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In what is a truly pathetic and what can only be seen as a deeply corrupt move by the Obama administration, companies who engage in hydraulic fracturing will only need to disclose what chemicals they use after the well has been drilled. From the New York Times:
But in a significant concession to the oil industry, companies would have to reveal the composition of fluids only after the drilling of a well is completed, not before, a sharp change from the government’s original proposal, which would have required disclosure of the chemicals 30 days before a well could be started.
The weakening of the rule followed a series of meetings at the White House after the original regulation was proposed in February. Lobbyists representing oil industry trade associations and individual major producers like ExxonMobil, XTO Energy, Apache, Samson Resources and Anadarko Petroleum met with officials of the Office of Management and Budget, who reworked the rule to address industry concerns about overlapping state regulations and the cost of compliance.
The whole point of disclosure is to protect people from potential dangers, to stop something bad from happening before it happens. If you know what the chemicals are beforehand you can at least theoretically try to address concerns before something irreversible occurs.
If the data is only released after the well is drilled, it is too late. Any possible damage is already done. Once the chemicals have already been pumped into the ground there is no way to ever get all of them back out. At that point the die is cast.
This is disturbingly pathetic. The Obama’s administration decided to side with big oil over the American people and basic common sense. The people who made this decision should be ashamed of themselves.
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Disclosure after forcing the chemical stew into the earth?
By then, the only thing you can fix is blame.
pathetic yes however the only surprise here is that obama has the nerve doing this during an election cycle, we all KNOW he is a corporatist abiding their bidding, however to have the gall doing something this obvious while trying to get people to support him, well gall knows no bounds
Why am I not surprised? Yet again 0bama demonstrates why he is the finest Republican President since Bill Clinton. The depths of my loathing for this person grows exponentially on a daily basis. Every action he takes appears to be specifically designed to insult, sellout, and betray the American people. “Hope and change”, indeed, but only for the 1%!
He invariably acts in the favor of business, the security state, and the well to do, a true corrupt Chicago pol (Apologies to corrupt Chicago politicians, except Rahmbo, who will always be a Class A asshole-a gaper, if you will).
but you’re still gonna vote for him, right?
If Obama is doing this during a campaign cycle, can you imagine what he is going to do if he gets elected? Scary stuff.
Rocky Anderson For President!
Wow, I didn’t know Obama called Cheney out of retirement!
OK – so I am not a scientist, nor do I understand the implications of this, but if these checmials go into a area very far underground to replace natural gas, which is not without some danger to the indivudal, what is the scope of the danger?
And if we do not use this process, we will buy more oil from the tar sands of Canada and the wells off the Venezulian and Nigerian coasts. Which is more dangerous?
Until we develop a legit option to fossil fuels, fracking seems to me to be a less dangerous alternative.
President Frackenstein strikes again!
Send the fracking wastewater to the White House kitchen and let’s see what kind of disclosure regulations we get then. But it’s OK for other American families, huh? Why is Obama’s family more important than mine or yours?
His name is Barack Obama and he is the guy FDL supports for reelection.
Less dangerous? We are talking about damaging water supplies and the possibly of screwing up plate tectonics, aren’t we?
In response to greybeard @ 7
> OK – so I am not a scientist, nor do I understand the implications of this
Then you might consider that closing your fracking piehole is the most prudent course of action.
This jumping to conclusions is just not helping. At this time the only thing we know since no one has read the new rules relative to this issue is that the Administration is enforcing or strengthening the current rules.
Let’s get the facts and nothing but the facts, running with issues in the absence of full facts and having read the actual documents is irresponsible.
Sometimes I sense a certain dislike for this President, so I must ask in that instant and if what I sense is correct, am I to assume that you agree with the Republicans on their issues?
Just what and how do you assist voters with the truth to give them an opportunity to get the facts in an effort to make a great voting decision, because this jumping to conslusions definitely affect some voters.
Just asking the question because the stakes in this election are significant. Our elderly, poor, disabled, Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, Education are all on the table
So the question is how can be best address the issues to get the best individuals in the congress and as President.
Constantly bashing any party does not assist those voters looking for the facts and nothing but the facts.
Someone needs to change the names of their testicles from Fierce and Historic to Pathetic and Deeply Corrupt, methinks.
That isn’t exactly what happens. The gas is currently trapped in deep shale, and doesn’t get into the water supply. The purpose of fracking is to break down the shale that traps the gas. The chemicals are forced in under high pressure. The question is how far they can migrate once they are underground.
We know that some of this causes settling and even minor earthquakes. How far does that settling go, and can the chemicals escape into the water table? No one knows. We just do stuff, and see what happens later, in violation of the precautionary principle:
And there is this:
AP Exclusive: Wyo. got EPA to delay frack finding
But since FDL is in the tank for President Frackenstein and chooses to censor critical views of the Obama Administration I’m gone.
FORWARD!
@Sandee are there only two options in your opinion? Aren’t you able to realize that most (if not all) that are disgusted with the corporatist policies of the obama administration would be equally aghast at what the republicans would do?
Honestly the people that support this miserable failure as a leader must only see in shades of black and white and are not intellectually capable of realizing that the ship is headed for the rocks and that it doesn’t matter which of these two ‘parties’ are currently at the helm.
Honestly I’m about to give up hope. The majority of the US citizenry are about as stupid as rocks.
nopesters
If this is true-FDL supports Obama-I’ll never donate another dime to the repeated requests for assistance from FDL.
Supporting obama maybe ok for democrats but not progressives.
Morning all you firegodz. Hey ya gotta remember it’s still coffee and muffins from where i sit.
Cant BHO just come out and say it that he don’t care how anyone votes yer all screwed any way. The fracking assholes are a huge problem—but then there is this–
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/05/02/ambassador-exaggeration-fate-world-depends-fukushima-reactor-4-128701/
In other words Cass Sunstein did the dirty work. OMB=OIRA=Sunstein.
Sandie wrote: ‘Our elderly, poor, disabled, Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, Education are all on the table’
Are you so uninformed that you don’t realize that many of these have been and continue to be left on the table by the Obama administration? Good lord how uninformed are you?
Honestly I think the obamabots must get their news directly from the white house.
“At this time the only thing we know since no one has read the new rules relative to this issue is that the Administration is enforcing or strengthening the current rules.”
If you haven’t read the new rules how can you state for a fact that they are being strengthened?
“Sometimes I sense a certain dislike for this President, so I must ask in that instant and if what I sense is correct, am I to assume that you agree with the Republicans on their issues?”
Seeing how that the complaints here are that Obama is being too soft and cozy with the oil industry, do you the Republicans side is that Obama is just too oil industry friendly?
“FDL takes no position in the 2012 presidential election. The end.”
get your information straight.
Not to worry Chuck, no need to stop your support for FDL:
“FDL takes no position in the 2012 presidential election. The end.”
I am not supporting BO, made that decission at the end of the 3,000 + health care bill with no public action, no closing of Guantanamo Bay,
an escalation in the war on terror… There is no one left for me to vote for. Obama’s mother would have been a better president that he is.
YOU get YOUR facts straight.
1. We presently live under a political duopoly that will endure unless we proactively change it.
2. FDL Front Pagers regularly run articles written from the Obama/Democratic POV, just as one might see at Obot sites like Daily Kos, Plum Line and TPM.
3. FDL refuses to cover Progressive Third Parties like the Greens, thereby validating the status quo.
4. FDL refuses to endorse a Progressive Third Party like the Greens or to declare opposition to the Obama Democrats. As FDL obviously does not support Romney and the GOP, FDL is implicitly endorsing Obama and the Democrats.
5. FDL wants to maintain the illusion that it is highly critical of Obama so it can gin up useless and pointless “campaigns” to “pressure” Obama, while dissipating the Left’s energy in worthless enterprises.
Donate if you like but know what you are contributing to.
“The gas is currently trapped in deep shale, and doesn’t get into the water supply.”
This statement is incorrect. Historically, there are numerous cases of wells (and springs) with high concentrations of natural gas. Anecdotally, my mother’s cousin had two irrigation wells on his farm outside Sydney, Wyo., and both had a lot of NG. He rigged up a contraption from a large inverted funnel, a pipe and a 5 gallon bucket with a hole in it that could capture enough gas to light off. A wonder he didn’t get hurt doing it but he became a family legend in the process. But really, whether it gets into the aquifer or not is dependent on the underlying geology, whether or not fracking is involved. The issue here is about the chemicals used in the fracking process and their level of toxicity, if and when they enter an aquifer.
“no closing of Guantanamo Bay”
Frankly, Obama can’t be blamed for that one. The legislative branch put the total kabosh on the idea, and at the same time made it impossible to try any of the inmates in a court in the continental U.S. In case you’ve forgotten, the administration budgeted 80 million to close GitMo in its first year, but the Dems in Congress refused to fund it. It all boils down to the fact that the vast majority of Americans just don’t give a damn what happens to “those terrorists” and would be perfectly happy if they were thrown off a navy ship in the middle of the Atlantic, and they feel that anyone with a different opinion is “anti-American”.
Just wait until he removes his mask and you’ll see, as depicted on the cover of Tariq Ali’s book “The Obama Syndrome”, the reason we never see “W” anymore.
Obama The Fake…
The biggest fraud in American political history.
I made that decision as soon as he betrayed us with his lofty rhetoric in the Senate against voting for retroactive telecommunication immunity, right before he voted for it.
Bingo!
Go watch “Gasland” and volunteer to drink some of the “safe” fracking fluid and then see if you change your tune.
Yes…
FDL obviously supports and is working for the reelection of a corrupt politician named Barack Obama.
This is what it has come to… shilling for corrupt politicians yet claiming to speak for progressives.
I have not seen anything that would show FDL supports Obama for president. Why do you say this?
In the past 30 years, the judiciary has been packed with right wing zealots. The Supreme Court has 4 ultra-conservatives, one moderate conservative (Kennedy, but the “moderate” label is relative), one moderately liberal (Kagan) and 3 liberals. In the next 4 years Kennedy is going to retire and the liberal Ginzberg will likely retire. Romney has already said he will appoint judges similar to Alito to be bench. The courts set the course of the country for generations, which the cons understand but the Progs just don’t seem to get. If a Progressive votes his conscience he enables the R’s with the result that he gets castrated by the high court. What ya gonna do wbgonne?
Obama only listens to the legislative branch when they say something he wants to hear. Execution via Drone pretty much sums up what policy he supports. He’s only weak and ineffective when he’s getting paid to be that way.
I’m voting for Rocky Anderson.
You wrote -
Supporting obama maybe ok for democrats but not progressives.
Great line!!
The fact that you refer to “partisanship” at all when we have two factions of one Corporate Party providing kabuki and propaganda to exploit the masses for the enrichment of the 1% is evidence of your willful ignorance. Obama’s personality and rhetoric have nothing to do with how he’s viewed here, it is his actions and policies.
I’m voting for Jill Stein… Green party candidate… unless an independent progressive runs.
BOTH the Democrats and Republicans are corrupt to the core… there is no saving either of these two totally corrupt organizations.
If the Democrats hold the Senate they can always block whichever right wing Federalist society member Romney appoints. A Republican victory will insure a people’s revolution so the question of Republican dominance becomes moot. And if you honestly think the current system can be reformed and the “Founding Fathers” were political geniuses then you should call yourself Pollyanna.
I’m voting Socialist in tomorrow’s election.
You are right; I should have said the gas rarely gets into the water supply. I know of examples to the contrary in East Tennessee, and I should have put it more carefully.
I’m surprised they all haven’t been diagnosed with colon cancer, considering all of the smoke Obama’s been blowing up their arses.
The Democrats have done nothing to change any of this… and Kagan is a business friendly fraud… appointed by Obama.
Obama is a senior member … of the 1%… and a corrupt politician.
Wake up.
Your rationale for voting for the democrat party is cowardly, pathetic, and only serves to maintain the status quo.
I personally will vote for the candidate I believe in and will not compromise my beliefs voting lesser evilism. As I said before this does
nothing but maintain the status quo.
The ‘two party’ system is nothing more than a facade manned by puppets whose strings are pulled by the same wealthy corporate interests. Minor differences are deliberately kept to maintain the illusion that there is a meaningful contrast. However after elected (see obama) a corporatist agenda will be enacted that delivers murder, mayhem, rape and plunder of the earth’s prescious resources, and an increasing transfer of wealth to the upper .01 percent.
Until or unless people are willing to vote outside of the current charade there will be no meaningful change (again see our current corporate whore). It will take time, be painful, but has to be done.
Yes, I haven’t forgotten that one either. Many here and others had to work hard to get BO and Hillary off the campaign trail and back to DC for the vote before the real vote on that bill, he voted the way we wanted and later turned around and did a flip flop and voted against it.
Bravo! … 100%.
What does it matter who appoints the right wing fascist to the Money Court? Its not like the current POTUS is worried about the constitution anyway. You think he’s going to point a liberal to the court? Even if that was true, you’re basically arguing you like your authoritarian psychopaths with a thin veneer of civility.
You don’t consider Rocky an independent progressive?
Can you let us know how the Socialists do tomorrow? I’d be VERY interested in finding that out. I hope they receive a much larger percentage of the vote than ever before.
Wow. If Kagan is a liberal then your definition of liberal is waaay to the right of my definition of a liberal.
I’m driving to Farmington Hills tomorrow to cast my vote, a day earlier than France proper. Anything I find out I’ll post although the final votes will not be known until Sunday evening most likely.
That vote surely showed me there was something rotten in Denmark but I think most people were so consumed with the potential for the country to rise above racism and have a mixed race president that they refused to see what was in front of them.
Keep in mind a “liberal” in the U.S. would be considered right of center in most European countries. Hell, the Democrats would be Tories in GB.
Wave “hello” if you drive through R.O.!
SandieM83 just registered and dumped some talking points.
And lookie here, he/she was kind enough to re-hash an old knee-slapper:
According to Sandie, if I criticize Obama, I must be a Republican. Put another way, Sandie seems to think that only Republicans can criticize Obama.
I prefer to look at it another way. Criticizing Obama means that I am sentient and aware and don’t like being lied to, betrayed, and viewed as a gullible sheep who will let myself be used and abused because some idiot calls me a Republican if I complain
I’ll do that.
My sentiments exactly.
Who said only Republicans are susceptible to the cult of personality?
This can’t really be a surprise, remember how staunchly Obush stands behind BP?
A typical well fracking uses around one million gallons of water (almost 3 acre feet) the amount of chemicals used is .5%, still that’s 5000 gallons of some of the nastiest compounds that can be brewed up. The chemicals render the water practically permanently non-potable. (Were someone to put the same cocktail of chemicals in a million gallon reservoir they would find themselves in the cell next to Bradley Manning for terrorism). Under intense pressure, the mix is targeted to a specific layer of gas bearing rock, the idea is to crush the rock under ground and allow the gas to escape (if there is any seismic weakness in the area of the of the layer, earthquakes will result as it weakens entire structures). The toxic cocktail is then pumped back to the surface to allow the gas to escape under pressure, the “water” is then stored on the surface in ponds similar to coal tailings. The ground storage then gets into the ground water (think CAFO shit lagoons.) until it is shipped to “storage wells” were it is “safely” stored deep underground, usually in played out wells with 100 year old pipes until it works its way into wells and aquifers in what the Administration would undoubtedly call an “Act of God”.
Something to keep in mind is that Robamaney is blowing his economic bubble with hydrocarbons, thats one reason why he will never contemplate the greater good when he considers any ecological issue, (deep water drilling, oil tar, arctic offshore drilling KeystoneXL, climate change), and will always put the short term profit of the extraction cartels before anything else.
“As I said before this does
nothing but maintain the status quo”
You seriously believe that you have any power whatsoever to change the course of the country? Progressives have been effectively neutered, and least in the near-term. Both parties have been complicit, but the cons have deliberately packed the judiciary in order to further their consolidation of power. They realized that one of the flaws in our system of government was that there was little incentive to check the acquisition of power and that the real power in the system lay not in the legislative branch or the executive branch, but in the judicial branch. The value in controlling the executive lay only in the ability to appoint members to the Federal bench. The legislative has other uses, but progressive legislation can always be thwarted by the judiciary, because it comes down to the judges having the final say as to the constitutionality of any law that makes it to the executive desk and ultimately, into law. This goes all the way down to the state level, but is somewhat more difficult to accomplish there because State Supremes are often elected by the citizens, so the real target has been the Federal judiciary. I could continue about another flaw in the Founder’s thinking–that setting the electoral system to favor two parties would lead to a moderation of views, and ultimately to consensus of opinions–but I’ve already spent to much time here.
I’d have to say Democrats are worse.
Of course, you have to separate the Blue Team partisans who know who he is and don’t care.
Once you do that and look at the true believers, it’s kinda scary how big the disconnect is between their view of Obama and who he really is.
reddog @64
Wrong
The “cons” have deliberately packed our ENTIRE government… including Obama… the Democrats… Romney… the Republicans… the FED… and our entire state and local goernments…
The completeness… the totality of all of this… is what you dont get. You cling to the inane “us vs them”… “Democrat vs Republican” scam… which is fake… it does not exist. They are all in on it… Democrats and Republicans alike.
The “us vs them” scam is a diversion. All the while the duped public is consumed by it… our corrupt politicians loot the country.
We must STOP VOTING FOR THESE DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN SCOUNDRELS.
It’s the only way to change the country.
You are saying Sotomayor isn’t liberal? Kagan is definitely to the right of Sotomayor, but how much remains to be seen. I suspect she is socially progressive but lined up with the financial sector on monetary issues. Bush’s picks are certainly off-the-charts-to-the-right (so much for Democrats preventing ultra-right winger SC justices from being appointed). That brings up an enormous flaw in Progressive political organization. The cons have one thing in mind–acquiring power. Progressives have varied agendas, often overlapping, but sometimes not. There is the Gay Rights contingent, the Pro-Choice group, the anti-Wall Street/anti-Corporate group, the anti-War people, etc. Many people but with different agendas and therefore the inability to acquire power. Furthermore, many corporate Republicans that have moderate to left-leaning social agendas have been driven out of that party and into the D-Party and their agenda doesn’t line up with the true Progressives. Unfortunately, the fracturing of this uneasy (unholy) alliance leads to even less ability to further the Progressive agenda.
Well said.
I wasn’t aware that he voted against the bill. I saw him vote for it right after spewing his condemnation of it. I don’t believe the crap he said about being against the Iraq invasion either. If he’d have been in the Senate he would have voted for it. He requested Joe “Israel” Lieberman as his mentor when he entered the Senate and professed his love for Reagan who “brought stability” to the country after those years of unrest. The years that ensured equality and civil rights when people stood up to the insanity of our involvement in Vietnam. He’d have to make a hard left turn to qualify as a moderate Republican of the 20th century.
Well, if fritter won’t say it, I will (along with MSNBC and the NYT and many, many more) Sotomayer is NOT a liberal.
I, for one, will miss your contributions.
So, you wouldn’t vote for Grayson or Feingold because they have a “D” by their name? I’d like to point out that the cons wouldn’t, because both were defeated in ’10. The cons will stick together and can win because of it, and they know that. They live by “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, and they destroyed the Dems in statewide elections last cycle, with horrible consequences for Progressives who are pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-union, etc.
“Rather than use the crisis as an opportunity for change, Obama has done the opposite and doubled-down on the unsustainable status quo in order to generate short-term and superficial ‘progress,’”
Yes, Obama “never lets a crisis go to waste” by doublind down on the status quo – like with healthcare he far outdid Bush in corporate welfare to the healthcare industry and entrenched healthcare lobbyists in DC even more than they already were. Time and again Obama deals with a crisis by throwing flames on the fire. Bush merely had the problem of torturing some foreign nationals, but Obama outright assassinates US citizens – Obama in fact is a complete reckless cowboy calling assassinations without trial “justice.”
Can you use Google? Check Sotomayor’s votes and how Breyer and Ginsberg vote.
I will miss your comments as well…
Keep speaking out… wherever you go.
That was an illogical leap = Dems did not show up to vote because of their deep disappointment in Obama turning out to be a Republican. It had nothing to do with anyone having a “D” by their name.
Where can I get some fracking discharge?
I desire about 1,000 gal of the worst, and wish to deliver it to our beloved leaders.
Preferably on a front lawn.
No… “progressives” dont believe in a damn thing… if on election day they vote for corrupt politicians. The “progressives” you talk about kick their “beliefs” into the dirt on election day.
Not me. I am a lifelong liberal progressive… I stand up for what I believe in
Hi greybeard
I’m not a scientist either, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (kidding)
I made a comment a few weeks ago that I think addresses some of your questions click here
Well said Chuck!
Don’t forget that when the social climbing careerist started his Senate career he jumped at the opportunity to go to Conn. to campaign against Democratic anti-war nominee Ned Lamont in favor of corporatist stooge “Droopy Dogg” Liberman.
No need to be snotty -
http://www.theroot.com/views/sotomayor-liberal-enough?page=0,1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/18/AR2009071801787.html
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2009/07/17/abcs-greenburg-sotomayor-not-liberal-activist-almost-conservative
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2011/06/28/nprs-totenberg-kagan-sotomayor-not-nearly-liberal-predecessors
http://hispanic9.com/true_to_hispanic_beliefs,_sotomayor_is_not_a_liberal.htm
Above is proof I can google. Sheesh.
Here is some insight into what fracking threatens to do to acquifers and wells and other waters. Just click here.
If the status quo is fine with you than go ahead and vote democrat or republican. It really makes little difference. However if the status quo is not acceptable and you continue to vote democrat I would have concerns about your mental health.
It continues to amaze me that there are apparently intelligent people that cannot see or realize that both parties are hopelessly corrupted. It’s as they think the elites would only buy one and risk the possibility of losing. Well guess what? Although this may have slipped your attention (or you couldn’t figure it out) they are not stupid and purchased both parties and are dependent upon votes being cast by either the uninformed (those that get their info from the MSM) or sniveling cowards that lack the strength of their convictions.
Which one are you?
Not to worry. Despite my constant efforts to incur memory loss, I can’t forget that one.
Do you having antipathy for lawns. Have them drink it instead.
:^) Chuck, you are on a roll – one bon mot after another!
Are you aware that Grayson took a statement by his opponent out of context and used it in an attack ad against him in the last election? He didn’t need to do that and it called his credibility and integrity into question. He’s no better than the rest of them. Just another hypocrite.
I admire your ability to not mince words. I like the “cut of your jib”.
WHat are ya going to do, have half the country fight the other half? The problem is the leaders, not the public, so how’s that rev going work?
Sadly there are constant reminders that Bernays was onto something.
As Ophrah said, paraphrasing “who is promised a job for their entire life no matter how well they do that job” (talking about teachers), we need to change the length of time the Supremes judges serve.
Glad to see you reconsidered and decided to stay. And I notice you managed to finesse that quote quite nicely. Well done!
blah blah blah blah blah…
good on ya then!!!
Krugman would have you believe it’s only the Republican Party that is wholly owned by the oligarchs. In reality it’s the entire fracking government including Obama and 99% of the Democratic Party. Dump Obama now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/opinion/krugman-plutocracy-paralysis-perplexity.html?src=me&ref=general
correction – Kagan, Sotomayor, Breyer and Ginsberg are ALL neo-liberals, not liberals, and they won’t do a damn thing to confront the crony capitalism which owns our polity, destroys democracy around the world and which they all support whole heartedly.
Did you vote for Scalia? No, I didn’t think so. But EVERY Democrat in the Senate did and as for the other conservatives, if you check you’ll find plenty of Democratic votes for them all. Hell, the Dems did not even call for cloture w/ Roberts. And over the decades they colluded w their drinking buddies across the hall in packing the lower and appellate courts with conservative jurists so that by the time a case makes it to the Supremes there is plenty of conservative precedent for them to agree with.
The SCOTUS argument is a red herring. MLK famously said that real justice can not happen without economic justice and the Supremes are proud members of the 1%.
Ha! Brilliant!!!
You nailed it, bigchin.
thanks Alternate ID!
you weren’t supposed t notice that
Reconsider. Just change your screen name to Obgonne!
There is no way I’m throwing away my vote for a third party candidate. If the the Demos are dancing with the devil I’m casting my ballot for evil #1, or is that #2? Anyway, my vote is for mittens as we need to tear down the Democratic party in order to build it up again. In the sports world this is called rebuilding and that exactly what the party must do.
Oh good grief! You really CAN’T use Google. Here, I’ll do it for you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/supreme-court-roberts/roberts.html#2009
The question I raised was about HOW Sotomayor votes when compared to Breyer and Ginsberg, the notable liberals on the SC. I didn’t say anything about talking head opinions about her beliefs, the proof is in how she votes. And for whomever it was that wrote that Breyer and Ginsberg aren’t liberals–Wow, just Wow. Quite likely I’m to the left of most of the people here and I’m not stupid. Any Progressive that doesn’t understand the election of 1912 is doomed to repeat it (hint–1912 stopped the Progressive movement dead in its tracks for 20 years and there is a good argument that 1912 led to the policies that set the stage for the Great Depression).
There is no rebuilding… the party has been destroyed by corruption.
Third, fourth, One Hundredth paty, the All You Can Eat Spagetti Party, all are welcome.
The two party system has failed… there is no bringing it back.
Thx My first question remains, however.
We use a lot of oil and gas products driving to work every day, heating our homes, burning coal to light our home and the like. There is no practical and immediate alternative. So, is it better to not frack and use coal? or drill in the gulf? or use energy products from places like Nigeria.
Where is a viable and economical alternative?