Andrew Sullivan is still trying to defend his absurd claim that Obama somehow deserves credit for growing support for marijuana legalization. In fact, though, while the decades long trend towards greater support for marijuana legalization hasn’t stopped since Obama took office, it has continued despite the Obama Administration’s overt opposition. From Sullivan’s response:
Oh please. If you accept my premise – that he “leads from behind” for a “long game” – you can begin to see my case. Obama is not going to crusade for either cause [marijuana legalization and marriage equality]. But he is not going to oppose them either and has quietly encouraged them. Hence instructing the DEA not to interfere with state laws on medical marijuana and withdrawing a legal defense of DOMA. Yes, there’s been some regional slippage in California on allowing states to determine their medical marijuana laws, but that hasn’t apparently come from Obama’s office.
The statements that Obama “is not going to oppose [states' medical marijuana efforts] . . . and has quietly encouraged them” are simply factually wrong.
The facts here are perfectly clear: President Obama since talking office has proven to be an adamant opponent of marijuana policy reform. Despite his campaign promise to leave the issue of medical marijuana up to the states, under Obama multiple agencies across the federal government have systematically worked to impede state medical marijuana systems.
The aggressiveness of the federal government actions taken under Obama caused both the Drug Policy Alliance and Russ Belville, the Outreach Coordinator for NORML, to conclude that Obama has been worse than Bush on the issue of medical marijuana. Similarly Rob Kampia, the executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, wrote about Obama, “he has become arguably the worst president in U.S. history regarding medical marijuana.”
Obama did in fact oppose Proposition 19, which would have legalized marijuana in California. His administration also seriously undercut the campaign by saying the DOJ would disregard the will of the electorate even if Prop 19 passed, promising to “vigorously enforce” federal laws against marijuana.
Sullivan’s statements are not consistent with these facts. There is no proof at all that Obama has been “quietly encouraging” the idea of marijuana legalization.
By repeating these claims, Andrew Sullivan has only offered more evidence proving my point that he lives in a fantasy world where Obama deserves credit for good things even if Obama had nothing to do with them or is actively fighting against them.
I half expect Sullivan to next claim that Obama, like some ancient King, also deserves credit for good aspects of the seasonal rains and making the sun rise every morning in the East.



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The man is a neocon.
Reform will not come from the Feds at any level. It is happening at the state level through the initiative process. This is disintegrating Federal prohibition, since it puts pressure on senators and congressmen to represent the will of their constituents. If the various factions of the reform movement can resist the attempts to fragment them, something is going to pass very soon..
Obama opposes anything the Big Pharma companies tell him to oppose.
Obama will never support anything that might cut into PHARMA profits.
God forbid anyone should self medicate and realize they don’t need that Prozac or Xanax prescription anymore.
Your right, Jon. Obama has been a huge disappointment on this issue. At every opportunity he has been given to make any statement of support he has only done the opposite. From on-line town halls to the White House’s own petition site, marijuana reform has been the number one issue yet time after time it is either ignored or rejected out of hand. Not to mention the DEA over aggresive stance on state approved businesses.
No, we cannot count on this President for support on reform. Quite the contrary. We stand a better chance of arrest and prosecution from this administration.
I would also add the ACLU to the list of organizations who have characterized Obama’s medical marijuana policy as “disastrous for patients.”
http://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/obama-doj-leaves-medical-marijuana-patients-sick-and-suffering
So the ACLU, NORML, Drug Policy Alliance and virtually every other drug policy group in the country say Obama’s been horrible on this, but what do they know. Andrew Sullivan says he’s quietly leading from behind, and that’s that. If you don’t “accept his premise,” I don’t know what to tell you.
The man simply doesn’t care about what the facts are.
Who needs facts when you KNOW dear leader makes all things good.
CLEARLY the drug policy reform movement owes obama a big ol’ pat on the back for all he’s done to support their causes. What a fucking joke.
The pile of reasons why he doesn’t deserve reelection continues to build.
Who ya gonna believe, Andrew Sullivan or your lying eyes.
The republican fascists , including the current president, have upped the game . Try to get a job now without a “drug screen’ if there’s a trace of MJ in your system , no job for you.
You can’t operate a caulk gun without passing the “screen” and you will be questioned about your use.
This country is mentally ill.
Shocker.
NOT!
And Andre Sullivan. Ugh.
It too easy, to do something that might, might be a winner for the economy.
Just in tax revenue alone!
Can’t let a thread like be without a reminder that big PhRMA owns O.
Arizona iniative was ruled a ” go ” by the Feds. Now the dispensary argument will be settled favorably and soon, too. Then 2.5 million more voters will be added to the yes side. Dispensaries are a poor sister to advocates but it’s a step in the right direction. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer when it suits him and criminal defense atty. when he’s asked to be by the status quo. Does he expect the PIC unions and the evangelicals to vote for him and send campaign donations? Fat chance. He’s losing a great oppurtunity but that’s like the 40th time so what else is new?
You can snort coke, smoke crack, shoot junk, drink yourself to near death and you will pass the DFWP pre-employment drug screen, but if you toke daily, you will not pass for up to 4 months, but mr. president enjoys his home brew WHITE house ale knowing we still will not vote for a righter canidate. boy are we screwed, again.
I was just informed that in the Oregon 1st District Special Election race Bonameci supports industrial hemp production. Another no-brainer and job creator. When will we learn our headaches go away when we quit hitting ourselves in the head with a hammer?
It’s not just about the merits, defying the obvious, raw poll numbers, but also the level of controversy and how it might motivate individual swing voters. I think they may be driving things at this time.
Any MJ issue is likely to roil the waters. It would provoke some otherwise “moderates,” who might be likeminded with progressives on some other issues, to suddenly recoil from MJ reform and become single issue voters going the wrong way. Then the question would be, are there enough of those voters to cause the PTB to not want to deal with MJ reform of any sort this year? It would seem so.
Obama is a drug warrior. I don’t know what Andrew Sullivan is.
This issue illustrates how deeply reactionary O is at the core, if he can be said to have a core. This, and the refusal allow young girls access to emergency birth control. O is one cruel dude.
Support for “Hemp” is code for support for more prosecution and punishment of those who use cannabis for their own relaxation and enjoyment. Just a smokescreen for supporting prohibition.
If it isn’t worse than whiskey, it shouldn’t be a punishable offense.
Having worked internationally in the wood products (new product development)industry I think that’s not the case. Since the mid-90s there has been a market for hemp-based plywood, orieinted strand board, chip board and paticle board, etc. That market still exists and is growing and would alleviate, not exacerbate, our shared environmental problems on lots of levels. Think forests of tropical/temperate uncut trees and intact bio-regions. I support the Medical aspects of MJ first and foremost. I support growin’ your own with the proper card, etc. I do not support huge growers masquerading as humanitarians. ” Do well by doing good ” doesn’t mean to me what you may think. I’ll leave it at that.
Oregon passed the hemp farming act in 2009. I don’t dispute the usefulness of hemp. I live in Oregon and have worked in forest products myself. I don’t see Bonameci as a trailblazer in cannabis reform for supporting a policy that passed in 2009 is all..
BTW, for anyone who would like to shock or titillate a right wing neighbor. . .
Try growing Cleome, AKA Spider Plant. It’s entirely legal, no psychoactives, and unrelated to MJ. Cleome, too, has a palmate leaf which really looks illegal. Yet even Mrs. Grundy grows Cleome just for the gorgeous flowers of all colors all summer long.
But YOU could cut the flower heads off before they bloom, so visitors really might think you’re up to subterfuge if you want them to. Plant a confident row so they can’t miss it.
If you wouldn’t sit on a jury and vote to imprison a medical marijuana patient, then you have no business voting for Barack Obama. Because it is the exact same thing.
Sorry magilla ,but even if it’s worse than whiskey it shouldn’t be punishable.Why would you want the state to arbitrate one’s personal freedom .The reason for vice laws was morality ,never what’s safe .Do you want sexual workers or those involved with unsafe sodomy to be punished too ? However ,it’s sort of sweet to know someone still believes in faith-based governance to determine when a cell should save us from ourselves .
That’s a complete misinterpretation of what I said.
Mr. Sullivan, it must be hard to have gay sex with your head so far up your ass. I can’t believe that anyone would give your “long game” rationale any creedence. Obama has clearly revealed himself to be what both Howard Zinn and Ralph Nader predicted. If you don’t know what I am refering to, then Google it. They are right, you are VERY wrong. Obama is a disaster. If the Dems had any sense (should I continue) they would primary him. But they won’t, because the thought of having a good president scares them for some reason.
This is another reason to ditch the Democratic Party and join the Justice Party! Check out their presidential candidate’s response to the marijuana question yesterday on the Rob Kall show:
“Rocky: Substance abuse should be considered a matter of public health, rather than a criminal justice matter. It’s ridiculous to arrest and put them through the criminal justice system for marijuana offenses. We saw the absurdity of prohibition of alcohol in our Nation’s history. Our approach to drugs is even worse in terms of how we’re going into other nations and trying to control things at the source. Our drug interdiction policies are draconian.”
Here is a measured response I can get behind. Marijuana has real health effects, but it’s nothing close the harm that comes from criminalizing it…check out the rest of his response:
“There’s a young man here in Utah who was arrested after three marijuana sales. The informant, after he reported these sales and was going to get his charges dismissed, added after his reporting was done that, “Oh yes! I remember now he had a gun with him.” So now there are three gun violations under minimum mandatory federal laws. State law wouldn’t have anything near this result, but the man ended up getting a 55-year sentence in the Federal Penitentiary. The judge said that he completely disagreed with it, found that it was very unjust, disproportionate to the offense; but that his hands were tied by Congress and he had to sentence this man to 55 years in the Federal Penitentiary. It has become absolutely insane in this country; this so-called war on drugs.”
http://www.VoteRocky.org!