According to Pew Research “progressive” is now the most positively viewed political term in America. It is viewed more favorably than Capitalism, Liberal or Conservative. From Pew:

From a purely PR perspective this is a real coup for the modern so called “progressive movement.” In a relatively short period of time it has given people on the political left the most positively received political label in America.
Seeing the huge difference in how people view the term “progressive” and the term “liberal,” it is no surprise that progressive has become by far the more popular way for people on the political left to describe themselves.

While branding is not everything in politics, it is important. The fact that for much of the last few decades it was more politically risky for a Democrat to call her/himself a “proud Liberal” than it was for a Republican to call her/himself a “proud Conservative” must have had a subtle but real impact on our political discourse.
Of course good branding without a solid structural foundation creates its own problems. Since what the word “progressive” really means is still somewhat vague, many organizations and politicians have started co-opting the title.




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Thanks, that’s wonderful news. Going onward and upward has finally gotten a better reputation than stomping on the rest of your fellowmen.
I know I’m cynical, but the last line echoes the thought I had as soon as I saw the headline: ripe for co-opting.
You trust Pew more than Gallup? Gallup today published their poll showing that Obama is see as “too liberal”: http://www.gallup.com/poll/151814/Americans-Huntsman-Romney-Paul-Closest-Ideologically.aspx.
Maybe that’s because they use the term “liberal” instead of “progressive”.
Regardless, the public actually sees Obama as more radical (to the Left) of their own ideology than Michelle Bachmann!
The conservative candidates (including Romney) are seen as closely aligned with American’s ideology, which means that most Americans consider themselves Conservative.
Heh, so where are all those naysayers today that always want to claim this country isn’t very left because only 20% of this country self-identifies as liberal.
I’ve said all along it was due to the word “liberal” and the above breakdown proves how the term is unpopular. Liberal is slightly positive by 50-39 (11 pts) while progressive scores a gap FOUR TIMES bigger at 67-22 (45 pts), AND it has 45-32 gap advantage over Conservative. No way a center-right nations approves of the label progressive over conservative like that.
i have to get this meme out, it just lit a light bulb in my head, ask forgiveness in advance for off target rant..
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Complete bullshit.
Next poll: how many current Democratic Party officeholders will publicly claim to be “progressives”?
Read the Gallup link here.
Obama is seen as the most radical (too Liberal) in their poll, even further away from American’s mean ideological leaning than Michelle Bachmann on the Right.
I agree that this is good news. I’m not actually that surprised in a way since the terminology is so loaded and so skewed by now with these things. Americans often respond according to how the word sounds to them, that is, they hear liberal as “libertine” and conservative as “careful with money” or something similar. Which is of course completely contrary to the way conservatives actually are, especially when spending on war and tax breaks for the rich. So “progressive”, though in many ways something that should indicate a position more to the left even than liberal, has more of them giving it a positive reaction.
OT-Appeals court upholds telecom immunity for wiretapping. Rule of law, R.I.P.
“Liberals” lost their luster when, in the 80′s, they began supporting the DLC which is nothing less than Republican Lite. The Democrats abandoned the middle class, workers, minorities, etc. etc. to establish the “new” middle class, (formerly the upper middle class) with socially progressive views, (so long as no real sacrifice or inconvenience was involved), yet were degreed professionals with money to contribute, so long as their personal aspirations of having a share of upward wealth redistribution stopping at their door. Its only taken 30 odd years, but people are finally beginning to see through them.
Still complete bullshit.
The terms “liberal” and “progressive” are not interchangeable and I’m sick of seeing people use them like they’re the same thing.
Liberalism focuses on the use of money collected through taxes for the common good.
Progressivism focuses on the use of government authority for the common good.
If we use the bank bailout as an example, it’s easy to see the difference: President Bush took the liberal approach by providing loans and subsidies to the banks, assuming that by providing them money, they would cease their risky (probably illegal) behavior. The progressive approach would have been to institute a new kind of Glass-Steagall and prosecute illegal behavior at the banks.
Apologies to readers for not explaining.
The Gallop poll is that same old crap of asking to SELF-IDENTIFY. And their choice is between LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE.
Yes, when asked, folks don’t like to self-identify as liberal. That’s the whole point, that the word liberal has been made a pejorative. The Pew Poll shows this in how much more unpopular liberal is than progressive.
Yet Marcel wants to claim the same old bullshit with the same old terms, terms we’ve just shown are looked upon very differently by Americans. No majority Republican country would view the term progressive more favorably than the word conservative. It. Just. Wouldn’t. Happen. Especially 13 points more favorably.
So, as I said, Marcel is spewing bullshit. Which is also old news.
Including the DLC-driven Progressive Policy Institute who “reject[s] the left’s demands for a government health-care monopoly.”
We need to counteract these DLCers-in-Progressive-Clothes by proudly proclaiming OUR progressive values. These guys love their nuke energy:
We have a battle for the progressive brand that must not be lost to those watering it down under the guise of being
corporatist“practical.”- Tom
“Progressives” are Obama supporters. I tell people, “Please do not call me ‘progressive.’” I’m LEFT of progressive, which means I’m against NDAA, government execution of Americans abroad without trial, phone company eavesdropping approved by Obama, creation of new terrorists abroad by Obama’s drone murder system, and … you get the point.
That’s where the co-option comes in. Although FWIW Obama has admitted he’s no progressive. Not that he needed to admit it, but he did. He’s a Blue Dog CONSERVATIVE
DemocratRepublican, though he won’t admit to the Republican part.I agree with that assessment. I just don’t agree with beating up politicians who don’t play along with progressive purity, especially when they see polling like Gallup’s. There is a reason that Democrats agonizingly tack to the Right or the Center too often and this is why.
OT:
Has anyone else here experienced the phenomenon of trying to type responses but the keys are recognized haphazardly?? As in you may need to repeat hit keys several times before it shows up?
It’s happening frequently on my laptop, but whenever I’m ANYWHERE else it doesn’t occur. Whether on the web or in Notepad or Word, I can speed type away. But here at FDL, it will suddenly stop working that way and I have to type with one finger, one letter at a time because I have to repeat hit several letters, sometimes several times.
Anyone else seen anything like that??? Should I adjust my tin foil hat a little?
Any study how often Progressive is used positively and negatively in the media also what about the words capitalist and socialist?
Also what do voters think progressive means? If the majority of voters think it means Obama thats good for Dems.
If people think it means to the Left of Obama thats good news for those who want to start a third party.
None of this news is good for the GOP or Mitt.
The GOP needs someone who can connect emotionally with voters to make capitalism top again.
They need someone sane to make their case.
You agree it’s bullshit yet we’re supposed to give politicians’ a break for reacting to bullshit??? Really???
No thanks. Either they’re too stupid to know bullshit when they see it (i.e. the Gallop results are bullshit) OR they’re intentionally using them as an excuse to move right.
Neither is worth supporting in my opinion. And I will continue to call them out for being stupid or dishonest.
EDIT: And FWIW, I don’t think ANY candidate at the Federal level, and certainly at the Presidential level, is that stupid. They know the truth, but are using it as an excuse to move right.
Scurrying to find a new label may be a symptom of duress. I think the hellbent liberals eventually found the label had become grandfather’s Oldsmobile or maybe Ted Kennedy’s Delmont 88. Migration then became timely.
Rejecting labels, even one’s own, is a healthy habit. But how much do labels mean anyway? There is a lot of overlap among them which the partisans hate to admit since it confuses the masses, but the overlap is there.
But on the issues, Americans are majority liberal, even if they identify as “conservative” rather than liberal. A majority supports the public option (and universal health care), withdrawal of all troops from Afghanistan (and mercs from Iraq), cutting defense spending, raising taxes on rich people, breaking up the banks into smaller parts, heavy regulation of Wall Street, a woman’s right to choose, unions and collective bargaining, and now gay marriage. I’ve seen opinion polls supporting my assertion here, much to my own surprise.
Sometimes FDL freezes up for a half hour and I can’t comment at all even though I can at other sites.
that’s the tail wagging the dog, once the same would be true about liberals and the term concervatives was a pox
it’s not in the word or the message, it’s in messaging, as soon as the concervatives get wind of the fact that “progressives” are favored they will turn that word into a perjurative just like they turned the term “liberal” and “union’
what we need is not new words, we need to reclaim the discussion, which is nearly impossible since they own the air
I was going to comment that they don’t tack right because of polling, they tack right because of monied interests. I like your response better.
Yes, agreed, that is true
Great point and how many people are calling themselves conservative who are in fact Progressive?
How many self proclaimed capitalists volunteer to help the homeless and want the government to do more to help the homeless but in other words they would be called socialists by Ron Paul and the rest of the GOP?
Getting those numbers would be interesting.
Thank you. I can’t tell you how often I’ve made that point but a substantial portion of people can not distinguish the difference between policies and self-labeling or labeling of any other sort, like this survey. So I’ve gotten tired of typing it & no longer bother.
That’s really just trying to assess cause & effect and it depends on how much influence you think that special interests have on politicians. I tend to think it is a little bit of both: political survival instincts when reading polls together with hordes of lobbyists and special interest ca$h.
Take heart despite them owning the air somehow progressive is the most popular word and I suspect Socialist has moved up the polling numbers as capitalist has moved down the polling numbers.
I take this poll to mean Americans are tuning out the MSM more and more.
I suspect the young are tuning out the MSM more than older folks.
I’d like to see the research run again with the addition of two terms, “Thoroughly Modern” and “Eclectic.”
The affect on the prior numbers would be interesting.
We do need polls that explain these ideas fairly then ask voters to identify which idea they favor and identify with the most and dislike the most and have 2 sliding scales.
A poll like that would blow some MSM minds why because the MSM the GOP and the Obama Dems believe their own lies about a center in politics that is to the right of the majority of voters.
Of course cognitive dissonance would force them to dismiss such a poll. But the further the ruling class gets away from reality the more likely it will be replaced.
You need consent to govern you have to provide a minimal amount of satisfaction for the majority failing that you need reasons to explain why that voters believe ( scapegoats ).
Lou Dobbs was trying to create Illegal Immigrants as scapegoats for the economy back before the banking crisis I suspect CNN knew ahead of time scapegoats would be needed to prevent OWS from happening.
Lou failed for the most part.
+/- 3% margin for error might yield Conservative 65%, Progressive 64%.
(When I was growing up, every Sunday night I heard Ronald Reagan say “At General Electric progress is our most important product”.)
As much as you won’t want to face up to reality, the fact is that few Americans have the slightest clue what ‘progressive’ means. They associate ‘liberal’ to the past advocacy of what has now largely been renamed as ‘progressive’. This is truly amusing because to be a classic ‘liberal’ means more than anything else to have an open mind and to be non extremist. Obviously ‘progressives’ posses neither trait.
I can assure you that as Americans over time become familiar with the nature of ‘progressivism’, positive sentiment toward the term will plummet. I can’t blame you all for getting excited about this and understand that my observations will be rejected. Just trying to be helpful though.
If the label/term “progressive” is determined to be a more “popular” terminology to identify someone as more or less “left-ish,” then it shall shortly be demonized by the fascist propoganda wurlitzer. Can’t have anything that remotely smells of lefy-ness politics/policies be popular, now can we??
As jimbowski highlights @23, a majority of Team USA actually *like* and/or identify with and/or endorse and/or want “liberal” policies, such as a public option or reducing our national *addicition* to WAR, Inc. But heaven forfend these same citizens be called “liberal.” The dog only knows, it’s only *acceptable* these days to be self-identified as “conservative.”
I definitely know a number of trad-Dem voters who nowadays tell me in no uncertain terms just how “conservative” they are. So there! nanny nanny boo boo…
Progressive is about to go down the plug hole of horridness, just like liberal did before it.
Yeah, but it also might yield 70% Progressive, 59% Con. LOL
To me the part of the poll that I find curious is how capitalism and liberal are viewed almost identically. Kinda funny
LOL!
Thanks for being helpful. I’ll return the favor.
Look up polling of Americans on single payer healthcare (sochalized medcine), increasing taxes on the rich, ending ALL the wars, gay marriage, rights for unions to organize, education (including higher education), workers rights, civil rights, human rights, and I could go on and on and on.
Or not. And continue to live in your fantasyland.
Your choice. Just trying to be helpful.
EDIT: BTW, I have zero doubt about the future of the word progressive. If it looks like that might catch on, I have no doubt that the massive media in this country will go to all out war on that word just as they did the word liberal and that word too will someday be looked at negatively. You can convince folks that words are bad, but you can’t convince them that shit tastes like chicken. So on the issues, the American people will in all likelyhood remain mostly LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE.
You know, it occurred to me that we can be thankful for one result from the word “liberal” being made a pejorative.
The right wing has for years labelled the media as liberal, and liberal as bad, so perhaps the day is nearing where folks really don’t trust the media any longer.
That would be a fantastic development. And tremendously funny.
Straw men like, “Obviously ‘progressives’ posses neither trait,” are just too obvious.
Yes, your added comment at the end is completely accurate. The word will be demonized PDQ.
As for the policies, it’s pretty amazing that they remain popular with all the propagandizing the pols & media have done to try to convince people to change their minds.
Wars, in particular, are completely animals of teh ruling class and have never been popular. (Channeling Zinn here.) Polling data postdate WWII, but Zinn has some pretty convincing behaviors he cites before there were polls. NYC civil war draft riots, which were more severe than I knew, are the best example.
My brother-in-law ussed to work at Safeway. He would bring home vegetables in cans where the labels had come off. He could buy them for 5 cents each. So, whenever we went to his house for dinner we had not friggin’ idea what the side dishes were gonna be.
Trust me….labels are GOOD.
capitalism = laissez-faire = Liberalism = free trade
If my math is correct, 17% more people have a positive reaction to “progressive” than to “liberal”. I suspect that is dude to the fact that the GOP has demonized the term “liberal”. Now, let’s take that information and DO something with it.
I say, first, we get new softball jerseys.
Depends who gets to pronounce it. Remember when Wallace used to pronounce bussing (without the -g, and with ‘forced’ modifying it) so it sounded like anal rape?
You’re correct but the Dems ALLOWED the Rs to define “liberal.” It soon became a word that the Dems were too cowardly to use.
There could also have been a two choice question added to the research.
It would ask the respondent whether his/her pidgeonhole was chosen by “what I am,” or “by process of elimination of what I am not.”
No jest intended, and it would reveal an important distinction.
To the extent people are vegetables, you have a point. It’s usually the case, but not always.
It would be much easier to stop that sort of nonsense if there were a liberal or progressive alternative to Rupert Murdoch.
Incidentally, not too long ago Jane Hamsher recommended here that we (and you know who you are) eschew the term ‘Progressive’ as a political or ideological descriptor.
The Gallup Poll reveals, more than anything else, frighteningly uninformed voters. On a scale of 1-5, Gallup’s respondents put the political center 1.1 points to the right of Barack Obama, and .2 of a point to the left of Ron Paul.
Yeah, old one. You make a point as to the ill informed, dazed and confused state of the American illiterati (thanks public school system!).
You neglected? to mention that these same Americans fear ‘big government’ even more than they do ‘big business’.
Merely the fact that they fail to recognize that there is in fact very little difference between the two deliciously illustrates my original point that the American people are for the most part a bunch of ill informed sheep ripe for the taking ( as any true ‘progressive’ surely knows ).
Got a present for you old guy. Just to be helpful and all, I’ll grant you access to some real info. ( not that you would be interested or anything ).
But my conscience will be clear.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/central-planning-update-theory-and-practice-you-are-here.
A funny thing about ‘progressivism’ is that the progress they propose is as old as society itself. Nothing much changes. Humans have always sought to control one another.
What a bunch of shit. Are you a paid fertilizer or do you have a case of diarrhea today?
People fear the TERM “big government” because like the term liberal the right wing media has made that term unpopular.
Okay smart guy.
Right wing media?
Corporate media?
Elitist media?
Hate to offend your ‘dear leader’ aspirations.
One thing the corporatist model seems hellbent on insuring is a obankster or a oromneyster win.
Genius award goes to old guy!
Maybe if you suck up like a real good useful idiot you could even keep your job in the regime?
Regime forbid that a monkeywrench like that despicable racist Ron Paul might ‘Liberalize’ the game plan, eh?
You lose only because you attempt to gain power from a plantation.
You are a slave for sale to the highest bidder.
Not a free person advocating for human dignity.
The evidence is so stark that obumma is just another tool.
I’ll stick with a desire for change. But unlike you, I opt for actual change. Not merely a different puppet to enthrall the stupid and easily manipulated with his shallow teleprompter.
Rock the boat.
RON PAUL.
Polls are meaningless.
Ya, I said it.
If it was the other way, … let the bullshite commence. But this way, … still bullshite.
The willful ignorance of most Americans makes them useless for a poll. Why in the name of beejebus would I ask ignorant and delusional people anything fo importance? How many of the above polled also believe in a magical man in the sky? Who’s also a frickin’ genie that grants wishes to … the good little boys and girls, … F me it’s a cross between Santa, a genie, and the bloody tooth fairy.
And we, as a group, know shite about shite. I wouldn’t even ask them about shite because of how little “we” know.
Just wait till the Iran war and see how many believe that Iran is a credible nuclear threat. Wait for all the masses to jump on the corporate media bandwagon about how dangerous Iran is (oh wait, already happening).
Yo, they’ve tried this 4-5 times now. 2-3 in the 90s. And then 2-3 in the last decade. And it’s working. Iran is the new boogeyman, akin to Saddam. WMD? We don’t need no stinkin WMDs.
Check out the Times story on Iran and blocking Hormuz. Check out the comments. Scared the hell out of me. They’re literally tearing at the walls to get some Iranian scalp. And they’re calling it self-defense for fuck sakes. America has left reality. It’s all magical thinking now.