(1) Create a competitive insurance market: This is the bill’s first, and most important, step. Right now, the insurance market’s version of competition is pretty brutal. Companies compete to avoid the sickest people and sign up the healthiest people. Offering the best coverage for the lowest cost isn’t much of a priority, because most consumers don’t know whose coverage is best, and the ones who really do know are probably sick customers who spend their days researching this stuff.
Outlawing the bad kind of competition while enabling the good kind, which the bill does, is more than just a humanitarian measure. It’s a cost control. The insurance “exchanges” imitate the market in which federal employees (including congressmen) purchase their health insurance.
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That means insurers will have to compete for customers in a more transparent market, where shoppers have more information, and where the relationship between price and quality is more obvious. As any free-market conservative will tell you, that should drive prices down and quality up.
And now that Klein isn’t trying to defend Democrats and President Obama’s poorly designed and corrupt health care law he has dramatically changed his tune about exchanges. From Today:
But the CBO is in the right here: No matter how much sense competition makes in theory, no matter how obvious it is that it will drive down the price of health care, the fact is that it keeps failing when we put it into practice.
When I asked Sen. Ron Wyden to give me examples of programs that made him confident that competition could work, he mentioned the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program (FEHBP) and the California Public Employees Retirement System (CalPERS). Rep. Paul Ryan has also pointed towards the FEHBP as a model for his plans. The only problem? Neither system controls costs — a fact that poses difficulties for both conservative efforts to reform Medicare and Democratic efforts to reform health care:
The Medicare program includes Medicare Advantage — a menu of competitive managed-care options meant to provide better service at a lower cost. That, too, has been a failure.
(emphasis mine)
Hopefully we can stop pretending the Affordable Care Act was some amazing cost control measure.
This is what I found so wrong with the health care debate in this country, especially during the writing of the ACA. Many liberal writers went out of their way to defend the Democrats health care plan with ridiculous statements about how great the law was despite the fact that it was built on a failed premise. We had hacks like Jon Gruber claiming the law had cost control solutions possible, even though it left out the one basic cost control (all-payer/single-payer) that has actually proven to work in all other industrialized countries.
This idea that loosely designed private health exchanges will control costs is nonsensical. People don’t want to die, the imbalance of knowledge and market power is too great, and health care is far too complicated a product for most people to know what is best. Everything indicates it can’t function like a traditional consumer market.
There are two sides of the cost control debate with different completing theories. There is the reality camp that is heavily marginalized and the pure fantasy camp, which the media treats very seriously.
The reality camp is made up of people promoting the simple proven solutions, such as single payer or all payer, that worked for decades across dozens of countries. The fantasy camp is made up of people claiming the economagic of private insurance exchanges will control costs even though the idea keeps failing with every new iteration we try.
Not surprisingly the health care industry, which makes huge profits because our Government refuses to adopt proven health care solutions, does everything possible to promote and reward the politicians, pundits, and “experts” who can be owned to defend the fantasy camp when necessary.





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All the “competition” in the world won’t help to control costs in an industry that’s been given an anti-trust exemption.
Ezra and the wapo = no credibility. boycott the wapo asap
One of the most expensive products in health care is prescribe drugs, most are patent protected. The idea hand waving about “competition” will reduce the price a government protected monopoly charges is pure comedy.
You are being too kind. don’t forget that Klein also said, just this year, he wanted to use the exchange and premium support model to displace Medicare. You and I both wrote about it, IIRC.
The essence of that model is not competition. It is a way to force people to funnel their health care dollars through a private insurance system, so that it can extract a share of the rents. Everything else is just details. The competition argument is just the cover story, and as you note, it has no theoretical or factual basis.
This means you can’t have a viable public alternative, because that limits the rents to be funneled. You can’t have too strict a risk adjustment, because that limits rents. And you need to limit the market power of the public mechanism, because that restrains the rents.
I don’t see why anyone would want health insurance. It’s doomed to fail.
Well meaning people can be tools for corrupt evil meaning people sometimes. Any FDLers out there know any well meaning people who get quoted in MSM or politics. Is this a “if I knew then what I know now” change of heart or a “I was a tool but now I’m not” situation for Mr. Klein?
At the root of most of these so called solutions is the avoidance of any publicly owned, non profit (AKA Socialist) program for anything, because these systems do, in fact, work better than the private profiteer model. If it can’t exist, nobody can see how well Medicare For All might work.
For starters, because we don’t have single-payer universal health care in this country. If you don’t have insurance, you don’t get care.
PhRMA prices used to go down relative to overall inflation. Guess when they started rising faster than overall inflation.
1981.
That was the year the Hatch-Waxman generic drug legislation was passed.
Law of the unintended outcome struck with a vengeance. PhRMA started raising prices of patented drugs and discovered they were price inelastic, so the sky was the limit.
Since then PhRMA has learned how to game the system in scores of other ways, most recently by using price discrimination. (“If you can’t afford…, perhaps Astrazenica can help.”)
I’ll add that Ezra Klein is an economics moron, aka tool of the 1%ers.
And Gruber is behind VTs plan too. Another 1%er tool, who makes Klein look brilliant.
In a just nation, Klein would be in jail.
Shit, I think most economists are morons. (present company excluded of course.)
Actually, the vast majority of economists (97% to be exact, I’ve got a copy of the paper in a pile somewhere) are not morons, just nebbishes (present company excluded). It’s the 1%er hangers-on that are the culprits. Those cocktail weenies are mighty tasty even when they’re shoved up where the sun don’t shine.
See this
I prefer WaPoop to just WaPo.
Pravda on the Potomac is also appropriate.
You’re scaring the children, eCAHN.
That is it exactly. Especially given that the industry owns Congress and the WH.
And also, there is a certain mayor of Chicago who got a whole lot of campaign contributions by meeting with these people in the WH basement.
The article I’m referring to was in a peer-reviewed journal a couple of years ago. Not only do I not know where the paper copy is, even if I remembered which journal, I couldn’t link bc the journal costs a bazillion $$/year. An academic friend got a copy for me.
IIRC, it was a survey of AEA members, so less anecdotal than your link. Response rate was not gigantically high but within the range of what you usually get on voluntary surveys.
97% of responders did not comport (I hate using the word ‘believe’ in this context) in neoliberal economics conclusions or policy prescriptions.
Now comes the funny part. The authors of the article castigated the 97%ers for their backward views of economics.
So you think they are afraid of opening their mouths around the intellectual geniuses like Milton Friedmand was? Ole Milty brought us such great goodies.
PS I’m not an economist. Not even close.
Richard Wolff — the Marxian economist — has an interesting perspective on economists. For example, he explains why in our country Freud was accepted and Marx was not. When I think back about what I was taught about Marx’s critique of capitalism by economists, it was all propaganda.
But YMMV.
That is a predictable downward spiral given what I typed in 9. The higher the profits of a given ind go, the more they own congress & prez, with consequent ability to suck on the public teat.
Wonder how much Waxman is raking in from PhRMA today. He would never ‘fess up, but I’d like to ask him, face-to-face (body language can be revealing) whether he anticipated the consequences of his generic drug law.
Remember aspens joined at the roots?
University prez job is to collect donations. Like POTUS, you can get a lot of money from small donations of a lot of peeps, or just a few gigantic donations from a few super rich peeps.
Gee, executive decisions are such a bitch. Not.
If the faculty doesn’t attract a lot of attention (like my friend at an institution that shall remain nameless), they are tolerated by college prez. Otherwise, off with their heads.
FWIW, I think a PhD in most disciplines narrows the recipient. I’ve certainly found that to be true of economics and economists. They routinely apply economic “laws” to real-world problems without clearly explaining the assumptions behind the “law” — and only rarely noting that the assumptions do not hold in most real-world cases.
But YMMV.
I definitely recall Ezra Klein claiming to see cost controls in the ACA when there weren’t any. Emperor’s new clothes and all that.
I think the PHd wears thin with time. It sounds good but they lose their objectivity. It does not impress me unless it is bright and shiny new.
Oh yeah, Ezra saw the cost curve bending at every stage. He used to jerk off when he heard O tout exchanges.
Well said.
The idea that the availability of an “Exchange”, as the replacement for the equivalent in the past of a visit to an insurance broker, meant we would have a cost reduction AND a cost control was nuts (indeed the original Champion of Exchanges – Econ Prof Dr. Jonathan Gruber of MIT – he of the secret spreadsheet that calculated the savings – recently told a meeting, I am told, of the Mass Connector that it has not worked in practice in Mass for the Mass mandatory universal health via insurance plan – explaining the reason is that people do not behave logically.
And for this we paid him $2 million – with the Mass Connector – rulers of our Massachusetts universal health program – still paying him and keeping him on the board.
Sen. Wyden is full of shit with the following assertion:
“…When I asked Sen. Ron Wyden to give me examples of programs that made him confident that competition could work, he mentioned the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program (FEHBP)”
I’m a retired former United States Postal Service employee. I retired on a disability and I’m entitled to obtain health insurance for me and my wife through FEHBP. I retired in 1995 and my costs have steadily crept up every year. Not only that, the number of providers has steadily dwindled. Just this year, my premiums are going up $20/month. Not a huge increase, but on a fixed income, every dollar counts.
As far as I know, participation is voluntary for the insurance exchanges that are going to be set up. The insurers aren’t obligated to participate, nor are there any restraints on how much they can charge. What’s to prevent them from getting together and agreeing on common fees and not undercutting each other? Price-fixing anyone?
Price fixing. That’s a good american tradition.
Heh.
Had that ‘discussion’ with my U.K. colleagues when I was on Wall St.
Europeans typically specialize in their fields long before U.S.ians do. So if there was ANY advantage to U.S. system, it was that the edumacated arrive at their ‘final’ destiny with tools that are broader than their European counterparts.
(I know, I know, pressure to ape tool narrowing is intense in U.S. bought institutions, but give me a break for just a second.)
My U.K. colleagues were baffled by my ‘unorthodox’ approaches. Which were anything but unorthodox, as you might imagine.
At the time, I just thought they were jerks and never saw the larger picture/hidden agenda aspect.
Exactly, with the prime example being the claim that tax cuts creates jobs. Yet real world data would ancedotally indicate the opposite because the economy boomed after Clinton raised taxes and we’re in the worst economic condition in generations after 10 years of one tax cut after another.
No, I’m not saying tax cuts destroyed the economy, I’m just saying that IMO tax cuts are a prime example of what you just said. They ALWAYS claim tax cuts creates jobs, yet that result never seems to appear in real world data.
And perfectly legal in an industry with an anti-trust exemption.
Oh I agree. An “economist” with a Masters degree can be far worse than one with a PhD. I found econ majors early in their career to be complete assholes. The Masters seem to actually burnish their assholicity. The PhD often trimmed back their assholicity. It was like a bell curve.
But they were still assholes. Present company excluded, of course.
LOLOL
Tax cuts for the wealthy are worthless. They just save it and it makes little difference in what they spend. Lower income families spend every nickel they get, so the reduction in payroll taxes gets spent and that helps the economy.
But lower income families using it to pay down existing debt doesn’t help the economy at all.
We’ve had one year of Obama’s Making Work Pay and another year of the payroll tax holiday, yet the unemployment rate is almost exactly where it was before those two tax cuts.
Yes. Just imagine if the Fed paid down THEIR loans — just like it buys toxic and worthless assets from TBTF banks.
Oh wait … that would be socialism.
That’s true. Direct spending is always best. But, in the end, if you can help people out of debt or ease the debt that is also good, albeit indirectly. Unemployment would likely be worse without any help at all, IMO. Or poverty may be marginally worse. That money helps. We are in a deep hole.
you probably saw the Bloomberg 7.7 trillion fed bailout number. Now the UMKC has come out with another number totalling 29.6 trillion. But the fed says we are not counting it right and it has all or nearly all been paid back. Shit, I’ll take 50 million or so for the next three years and pay them back with their .005% interest. But only the banks get that deal.
Can you fucking imagine the impact of a $29 trillion jobs program???
Yes, the fed basically became a lender to the finance industry including european banks. Here we were troubling over 700 billion and they were out there making these loans. I wonder if this was even legal, but I suppose it was.Ben would not do anything illegal, would he? You have to wonder what they are doing now to bail out europe. Obama can’t get a middling payroll cut passed.
What do people in poverty do, you know the 50 million or so of them? Are they all on medicaid? Do they move back and forth between private insurance and medicaid as their income increases or decreaes or if they get job? Wanna bet it won’t work well?
People who live in poverty die. Sometimes they might get to the emergency room in time, but (triage, dontcha know) get shuffled to the bottom of the deck.
I twice ended up in emergency room at night, once with my son; called his ped who pooh-pooed me for being in a panic bc at age 5 he collapsed to the floor with a ‘headache.’ Advice was give him an aspirin & call back in the morning. In my case it was unbearable neck pain from a whiplash type injury. In both cases, it took hours to get service, and both times it was at NYU emergency room which prides itself on having such a small ambulance bay that it never gets any big real emergencies like, ya know, gun shot victims, etc.
Those cuts are worse than worthless. Having low taxes means less incentives for a wealthy business owner to put money back into the business (investing in new employees or equipment), and instead the boss has more incentive to simply pocket the extra money.
Re: the healthcare exchanges. . .
According to a WSJ piece on Nov 16 (see link below) a serious new legal glitch has been uncovered in ACA. I don’t know if there’s any update since then.
Only 17 states have legislated to set up and run their own healthcare exchanges. For those states which do not, the Feds will do it for them. Those two situations are covered under two separate sections of ACA.
Under ACA, Federal premium assistance (tax credits and subsidies) can be offered only in exchanges which will be run by states (ACA Section 1311). They are not authorized in states with federally run exchanges (Section 1321). The apparent consequence is that a lot of ACA funding will be blocked in states containing federally run exchanges. Note: I haven’t looked up those sections, myself.
As a workaround the Administration is trying to get the IRS to issue a rule to treat both scenarios the same for tax credit purposes, instead of seeking an amendment to the law to allow such. So the Administration does perceive a problem.
Yet since there is no ambiguity or vagueness in ACA’s text in this regard, the problem remains that the IRS can’t rule to issue tax credits or spend where ACA clearly says it can’t. It wouldn’t be a case of the IRS clarifying something.
The following WSJ piece continues with an examination of likely scenarios, court challenges if such an IRS rule were put in place. It also points out that an IRS rule, even if it were to survive in court, would provoke untenable conflicts with the employer mandate in states hosting a federally run exchange. Also such a rule could be overturned by any subsequent administration without concurrence by Congress – whether or not that would be likely isn’t the main point in this dilemma. See
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203687504577006322431330662.html
The piece also indicates there were other defective items rushed through, which is not unusual in large legislation, with the intent of saving time and amending or using reconciliation later to fix. It’s a fine time-thrifty idea if the bill is not controversial and the same party controls the WH and both houses. Otherwise, maybe it’s not.
Heh, when I worked in the Office of Faculty and Staff Relations at one of the Cal State campuses, we call the Ph.D.’s “piled higher and deeper.” That image fits perfectly with many of those locked into tenure positions.
Not to mention mandated customers and a guaranteed profit (MLR ratio = costs plus no bid contract).
WHOA everybody – step back from the analysis !!
Single Payer / Medicare For ALL, OR, fucking thieving.
Look at some of the numbers this week – 146,000,000 Americans defined at some level of poverty — and 0bummer’s lackeys touting a million or so 20 somethings able to sponge off of mummy’s “health” insurance.
WHO of that 146,000,000 has “health” insurance that is riddled with loopholes which they can’t afford – ONLY those with any insurance! Keeping 20 somethings on mummy’s insurance was a sop to the professional class who are f’king incompetent at running hot dog stands, never mind anything complicated.
OF course the ‘exhcanges’ were gonna fail – all these fucking lies will fail cuz they’re proposed by fucking thieving scum. Too much analysis gives them more credence than they deserve.
rmm.
I’ve always liked “Pravda on the Potomac,” but I’m also partial to Dean Baker’s “Fox on Fifteenth.”
On top of the fully committed failure in motion that is the ACA, Panetta’s gang is pushing a DoD/[fill in right-wing think-tank name here] proposal to bring the magic of market-oriented solutions to Veterans young & old.
I’d love to see an ad against such shabby disregard for vets that depicts life were Panetta’s privatization scheme to become reality. The ad campaign would show different veterans who had lost limbs when performing their duty getting stopped coming back into the US from Canada with “contraband” prosthetic limbs or wheel chairs – all being confiscated by INS as illegal imports of medical devices. It’s a scene that, in my mind’s eye, is emotionally rich, reality-based and easy to understand.
I know I’m repeating the obvious, but I’m exhausted by the seemingly endless crop of grifters openly and shamelessly stealing anything they can that’s connected to the public’s coffers. No more pols and sycophants who live by the motto, “if it ain’t broke, unfix it”.