You can just about always count on Obama doing the exact opposite of what needs to be done and what the people want.

The world’s greatest deliberative body multi-millionaire gasbags club has other priorities.
What an absolute monster Mark Warner is, but he’s not alone.

I have thought for quite awhile that he will be the next nominee. Makes me feel ill.

It is refreshing (right word?) to see that not everyone hyperventilates over the deficit. It is such a meaningless statistic.

I also have a problem knowing what the difference is between the economy and employment. In fact, unemployment is the actual loss of GDP that we suffer. And it feeds the deficit.

I noticed they took this poll just after Obama’s speech Maybe some folks were listening.

Maybe a small percentage see the stock market as “the economy” and therefore feel better about this so-called economy thing even though clearly the job situation sucks.

The white house is admitting that unemployment will be at 9 percent next year (16 percent or more if they still counted it as they did in the past). Why does he even think he has a chance at winning? The only positive thing he can do at this point is pull an LBJ/Coolidge and decline to run. And do it soon.

People don’t matter because votes don’t matter. Votes don’t matter because elections can be rigged — Bush Junior showed that amply. Votes don’t matter because election results can be bought — Obama will show that amply.

Mr. Walker, if ya interviewed us chronic and long term unemployed since ’03 or so, I think we could give you some opinions all the fuckin polls and analysts are missing.

Please feel free to email me at any time for my opinion regarding unemployment issues.

*G*

N bein pissed aside, I mean it, I’d gladly give you a reasoned and exact and real example of what we unemployed are suffering n why.

Bless ya.

In reality, while high unemployment is definitely a major negative impact on the average person’s lives, obviously driving down wages, limiting options, keeping the jobless poor and those with jobs with little leverage, there are definitely broader economic issues that Americans need to be worried about.

I really wish that major polls were showing most Americans believing that 30 years of stagnant or declining wages, skyrocketing wealth inequality, and the steady degradation of the rights and considerations afforded to working people that make our lives better were their biggest worries.

Then there would be a hope for change, driven from the bottom.

Again, unemployment is a huge problem; and unemployment is actually a great ruse behind which to hide the real huge problems. Just seeing a bump in job growth at this point, well, that wouldn’t mean anything at all is getting better for working people, in the big picture.

16% is a joke, it’s likely well above 20% or more nationally if ya use the fed Q6 . . . my guess it’s likely close to 30% nationally without using any fed numbers.

I guess my position with you is, yes, of course they are rich gasbags. The Senate was designed to be the government organ representing over-entitled rich parasites. It’s not really even needed at all in terms of representative democracy.

Placing that aside, why do you bother paying attention to the Senate? You can start and stop with the understanding that nothing truly good will ever come from the Senate. The question isn’t “What is the Senate going to do?”, the question is “What can be done about the Senate, the problems it creates, because of what its been from the start?”

Hint: the Senators will never do anything to cure the problems they create for people who aren’t rich. They aren’t in office to do that.

It is just incredible that Obama decided to pivot to deficits when unemployment was still 9%. Now he wants to get reelected so another pivot. I noticed he now says no changes to SS. Another pivot. Might there be more?

No it is 25 million and 16.2%.

Long winded a bit, convaluted a bit . . . missed a few things, but yer mostly right on about it all . . . .

Bottom line is we the people are screwed for jobs, income and housing and food and us 55+, and others of all ages, for medical care.

Without jobs, at livable wages, we will continue to be screwed.

People are gonna die en masse, soon.

By millions.

I mean, how do 55+ folks LIVE on the streets without food, shelter, n medical care?

This is deliberate and utter eugenics.

And class war.

End of story.

The 25m includes 14m unemployed, 8.8m with part time jobs and 2.2 m who just gave up.

Duh.

Me too.
You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Just suck your finger and stick it in the air, right?

Yep. Poverty is at the highest since 1993/ There are 46.2m people living in poverty. Wages have been driven to the bottom. These are the people the thugs say “don’t pay any taxes”. some of them are pretty hungry at night too. But, hey, the thugs say they have video games and, get this, they may also have a refrigerator. Holy fuck.

Snort. There was a thread this morning where I almost commented, What is this, kindergarten? But, I didn’t.

Barack Obama is probably only concerned about “jobs” because there is a perception in the general public that “unemployment is high” (it is) and that if he can be seen in the year prior to an election – which is the maximum memory extent of the mass media and the general public – “doing something” about “jobs”, then that will get him re-elected.

In truth, even if he is “doing something” about “jobs” (jobs is only one issue, wealth inequality and the rise of the American plutocracy are the bigger issues) at this point, on through election, he will have spent the first 75% of his first term catering to bankers, plutocrat capitalists, and corporate bosses and the last 25% “doing something about jobs”.

His first term is a disaster. Further, his priorities are clear.

I might add that if the U.S. economy were anywhere near normal, rising real wages (how quaint for me to even think about that esoteric subject) would be top of the radar screen.

Why I seldom comment on economics threads. Just too elementary.

I need to go now, but I leave this thought: When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people…….
What are these fucks doing to us?

Yeah, this game is so rigged for working folks, thru the Feds n Judiciary, WH, Congress n MIC n Pentagon and all fed aspects.

It’s rigged.

There is NO way for we the people to get out of this anymore.

Only history shows, ultimately, all empires fail.

N this is failing, the 1% rich globally don’t seem to be too concerned about it, either. N that tells me, we are totally fucked until it all collapses on it all.

No one wins. We the people die first. The rest later.

More & more you provide argument attesting to the dumbing down of America. The ONLY Answer that makes any sense is “% Dissatisfaction with Gov’t.”
It’s the Representatives we’ve elected that’s turned us into a corporate state, that’s placed greater value on capital gains than wages, that’s allowed the consolidation of our media & reframing of social argument, the obscene printing of money by the FED, and the horifying misdirection of our national objectives after 9/11.

The same thing that plutocracies have been doing for as long as civilization has existed: running the plantation in their own interests.

What are those numbers? Q6?

My point is it’s higher n that.

For all the reasons I stated, regardless of fed fudged numbers, be they Q6 or not . . .

When do we get to accept the reality that “change from within” is by itself not going to happen?

Heh, ya quoted Mr. Zimmerman!

Bless ya Demi . . . yer a treasure here also . . .

*bows*

Dear Watson?

Yep, n I will also question the poverty numbers depending on who creates them . . . I’d up that by double or more . . .

Tell us something we Pups don’t know, and haven’t known since his cabinet picks?

Not to mention all the others that came before him, n Reagan in CA. Reagan nationally, Nixon before, and on and on.

Tell me something I don’t know, and how to fix it besides massive riots.

Tell me something.

Bowing back. I thought you’d like that reference. You can never go wrong with quoting the Zim.

I would pay attention to the household debt numbers, relative to the household savings numbers, relative to what is being said about the prospects for job growth in an economy where the corporate mass employers won’t start hiring because they’ve achieved historic profit margins with reduced workforces.

High debt, low savings, poor outlook for household real wage gains … the population in bulk average is sitting on a precipice.

I’m not offering you any fixes, as I don’t see any.

Millions are hurting, and they need JOBS.

They don’t need mandatory private health insurance, freedom for Libya, more tax cuts for the rich, Social Security cuts, and all the other bullshit from the Trojan horse.

Ms. Romer, the book says, once passed a note to Mr. Summers threatening to walk out of a dinner with Mr. Obama and outside economists after the president polled his guests for their recommendations but failed to recognize her.

It is a world awash in excess supply. Wh is why “supply-side” economics is sooo good. /s

Imagine that.

H/T ma’am.

*G*

We both here just had a few times of dental surg incidents.

Tonite, I got some AK frozen salmon fillets poached in water, clam base, lime n lemon n garlic cloves.

It’s nestled up on a yukon gold tater, red onion, garlic clove, ital seasonings, n salt with zucc from garden, homemade pesto (roasted almonds), n chicken base puree.

I can almost forgit about the rest of the planet, but sadly, that’s not to my advantage, nor theirs.

We are equally fucked, ma’am, regardless of how we eat any given nite.

Dawg help us all, there’s little left to change it but a horrid means.

Perhaps me n mine will be gone before it all . . . perhaps.

Unemployment? I thought it was snake regulation.

I’m not an econ, you speak like one, and I concur with yer posits I think.

It’s way uglier n the MSM is telloin it.

I wonder how the masses will react when shit hits the fan . . . n the MSM will broadcast it like 1984.

Oh well.

On we trudge.

Then we are in agreement, neither do I . . . no solutions other n horrid one’s.

Indeed.

God, I wish he would. He needs to say that he would not seek nor accept the nomination of the Democratic party. He needs to admit he was a huge failure and that he’ll cry himself to sleep every night in whatever billionaire gig the MOTU have set aside as a reward for him to betray the American people.

Unemployment will remain high until something is done about “free trade”. As long as there is downward pressure on wages (not due to our unemployment), but by the fact companies can and are encouraged to outsource as much as possible, we will never have peace of mind. We always fear we will be laid off, whether we will make the mortgage and if we can cover a medical emergency. We are now hardly any better than slaves. Our “freedom” as the right likes to hold so high is actually indentured servitude to the rich who will never have a worry in their lives.

The “fixes” are already “in”, sixgill, burrowed in deeply, fully-bloated polly-ticks.

Until one hundred percent of those being “fixed” come fully to comprehend what has occured, which about ten years of depression will “encourage” … “things” will continue along their “dismal” path …

“Elementary” as eCAHN might put it …

And, so long as that one hundred percent can be convinced that either they or some other members of the one hundred percent are “to blame” … the Divine Right of Money will hold ever more vicious “sway”.

It is rather like the Medieval notion of the Divine Right of Kings.

And people are no more able to challenge this new “divine right” than our ancestors were able to … until they do and did …

DW

Larue Hearts DW!

*G*

The only thing missing from the graph is the obscene increase in profits by the parasitic corporate capitalists.

Americas financial sustainability begins with Made in America

Americans must wake up and take action to protect our liberty and way of life.

America must rejuvenate itself and become the huge industrial power it once was.

It starts by re-inventing the wheel and building manufacturing facilities in the United States that employ Americans who produce quality goods at a competitive price with space age technology and modernization.

Organized workforce and benefits has to be revamped to meet today’s economic conditions.

Government and its bureaucracy must be reduced and streamlined. Rules and regulations must be revamped to be conducive to business growth and development.

YJ Draiman for Mayor of LA