Yesterday I was arrested along with Dan Choi, Bill McKibben and John Chandley (Scarecrow). I was released last night, but Dan, Bill and Scarecrow are all still in jail. They have been told they will remain there until we all go to court on Monday at 2pm.
The Tar Sands organizers were negotiating with park police for days in advance of the 2 week sit-in. They had been told repeatedly that they could expect that protesters would be given $100 tickets and released, because that’s their standard operating procedure. They repeated that to the organizers shortly before the sit-in started yesterday. And that is what normally happens — Dan Ellsberg was released after paying what amounts to a parking ticket after the last two White House protests he participated in, an anti-war protest in December 2010 and the other on behalf of Bradley Manning in March of this year.
But after we arrived at the Park Police station, we were immediately told that we would be held until Monday when the courts open, so we would be in jail for two nights. The same park police claimed that this was their standard operating procedure (it’s not).
All 65 of us were crammed into four 6 x 8 holding cells (we measured) with a toilet at the end. I was held with other women who took part in the demonstration. There were more men than women, so some of the men were held in the sally port because of the overcrowding. But that meant there were about 14 women in my room, with a few rotating out periodically for booking, making phone calls, etc.
The park police took all our jackets and sweaters away, which left a bunch of women in spaghetti straps. They said they were worried we’d hang ourselves if they let us keep them. Then they cranked up the air conditioning so everyone was really cold.
We asked for something warm so they brought us 3 yellow styrofoam sheets. They said that was all they had. So we ripped them in two and rotated them with two women sharing them at a time, but when someone had to pee, we all turned our backs and used the sheets as sort of a wall so they’d have some privacy.
One woman had to poop and she just really did not want to do that in a 6 x 8 cell with 13 other women in the room. She asked the guard if he’d let her do it in the restroom down the hall. He wouldn’t. So we asked if she could go join some of the men who were being held in the sally port where there was a porta potty, or if we could be taken there while she used the one in the cell, but he refused. We all said we didn’t care if she did what she needed to do, but she was so uncomfortable she just couldn’t.
The guards were actually very nice to us and we appreciated that. But they had their orders, and their orders were to lie to us and humiliate us. We all made the best of it.
After we had been there for about six hours, they stopped processing us. They told us their computer system was down, and they couldn’t process anybody else. Then they started taking the local people out one by one and telling us that we would be released within a half hour because of the computer system malfunction, but we were ultimately put back in the cells and continued to wait.
The story, of course, was bullshit. One of the local women they released, Angela, had already been processed. So a computer system malfunction, real or imagined, had nothing to do with it.
When I was waiting to get my property returned to me, I quickly stepped over to the small window to the holding cell where Dan and Scarecrow were being held. I waved at Scarecrow, who gave me the thumb’s up. Dan started making faces in the window. We had been able to hear Dan’s laughter all afternoon coming from the men’s cell. He worked hard to keep everyone in good spirits.
They also opened up Bill McKibben’s cell for a moment while I was standing there. He hollered “Jane, make sure everyone writes about this!”
A few minutes later Dan was brought out of his cell, and I got to give him a big hug before they pulled him away.
“Any comment?” I said.
“Don’t take no shit!” said Dan as they hauled him off to the DC jail, where they are all still being held.
When I got outside, the 350 organizers said that only about 10-15 of those who were arrested were being released, so approximately 50-55 are in jail until Monday. They said that the Park Police told them that they were keeping the others as a “lesson” that would “discourage” anyone who wanted to take part in the daily sit-ins over the course of the next two weeks. But the system isn’t set up to handle a two-week wave of demonstrators, so they believe they had to figure out a reason to let some people go. The reason that was chosen assured that Bill McKibben would remain in jail, and the organizing would be disrupted.
I had an amazing time yesterday getting to share the experience of standing up to corporate dominance of our political system, and the insatiable desire of oil companies to rape our environment at all costs, with people I care about tremendously. I also got to know a fabulous group of women, who are inspirational for their principled commitment to stopping the construction of the pipeline. Most of them came from far away to take part in this action, many from Canada, and this arrest may mean they won’t be allowed in the country again.
The night before the sit-in we went to St. Stephens Church for a training with Bill and others from 350. I don’t remember who it was, but one of the organizers mentioned that standing up to the oil companies right now — and to corporate America in general — is to us what standing up to King George was to the colonists.
That stuck with me. I am happy that we were able to protest in front of the White House and that whatever happened as a consequence, it was probably going to be a matter of inconvenience more than anything else. I’m not sure how much longer that will be true. The growing economic despair of many Americans will only get worse with the austerity measures being pushed on us, and there are signs that both the surveillance state and the police state are preparing to respond with force. It is unquestionable that this White House has only accelerated the rapidly advancing criminalization of free speech.
When Barack Obama was elected, he said that the earth would now begin to heal. Yet last week, he and Michelle took separate jets only a few hours apart to Martha’s Vineyard. There may well have been a good reason for that. But it just goes to show that even on a symbolic front, there has been no commitment to end our dependence on oil.
The decision to allow the construction of the pipeline rests with the President alone. He cannot blame Congressional gridlock or partisan intransigence. The pressure on him to allow its construction is no doubt fierce — the oil companies will claim that it will create jobs and balance our trade deficit. Yet whatever money goes back into the economy in the form of jobs will once again be extracted from the wallets of taxpayers, because that’s what the oil companies are good at orchestrating. And any reduction in the trade deficit will be achieved at the cost of cracking open the largest known deposit of carbon on earth, second only to Saudi Arabia.
Far from ending our dependence on oil, the President will be doubling down on it by allowing the construction of this pipeline.
This is not a right-left fight. And it’s also bigger than just a climate change fight. If we want to throw off the corporate overlords who push our elected officials around like pieces on a chess board, the time is now — while we still have some freedom to resist.
Yesterday, when we were sitting in front of the White House waiting to be handcuffed and taken to jail, Dan Choi said we were all “flaming firebaggers.” And together with John Chandley and Bill McKibben, he is spending tonight in jail again so that the government can send a message to you on behalf of the oil companies. They don’t want any more flaming firebaggers in Washington for the next two weeks who will overburden the DC jail system by throwing their bodies upon the gears, to quote Mario Savio. They hope that you will think about what is happening to John and Dan and Bill and be discouraged from fighting back.
There were 45 more people today who refused to be discouraged. They watched what happened and were willing to get arrested anyway, in the hope of “lighting a fire” under the world.
So the question is: are you discouraged, or are you a flaming firebagger?





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Good on you Jane! Keep up the good fight! I wish I could join you, but I’m on the other side of the country, and this is the busy season for us. Thanks to you and the others for what you are doing.
John
Flaming firebagger here.
(((((Scarecrow))))), you handsome devil. First photo, I’ve ever seen of you. Looking forward to Monday when you’re released.
Nice mugshot, ‘Crow.
Standard lie
I have never had to take off my jacket in holding. Also the government spent money on electricity to give you AC I don’t ever recall them doing that at best we got a portable fan in 90 degree weather.
They were hassling you ask for their electric bill records I bet they don’t run AC for the jail or for holding cells.
Dear President Wingnut McAsskisser,
Have you ever heard of a guy named Martin Luther King? Do you think being arrested for leading sit-ins “discouraged” him from participating in civil disobedience or fighting for what he believed in? Read a little history, jackass – and start acting like a Democrat!
I wonder if the real purpose is to more generaly prevent dissent in the months ahead. They’d probably love to label Jane and her crew hippie radicals to try to marginalize them and the rest of us.
Well they did that in 1968 too and they didn’t win the election. But they’ve pretty well prevented progressives from having any real power in the party.
So why are we still in the party?
From what I have been reading on comments threads in other websites, it seems to me that Jane has attracted quite a lot of really angry hostile feelings from some people. I don’t know if it is from somebody getting criticized or kicked of of FDL or something else. And we know that FDL gets a negative attitude from the White House and its hangers on. I would not be surprised if she has been targeted for this extra severity. They have always liked to pick out the leaders for special treatment. I guess its sort of an honor.
How much does this pipeline cost how many green jobs could we create if that money was spent on green jobs?
How many green jobs could we create if we didn’t waste money building nuclear plants?
100 sq miles of solar panels could power the country assuming 15% efficiency. We are now at 20% efficiency.
http://greenbuildingelements.com/2011/04/07/sanyo-north-america-makes-improved-solar-panel-available/
http://www.amnh.org/nationalcenter/youngnaturalistawards/2011/aidan.html
A kid laid out solar cells in an oak tree leaf, Fibonacci design and got even more power than laying the solar cells out in a standard sq pattern.
If solar is cheap enough everyone can drive an electric car or a GM volt then we would not need tar sands oil.
Another example of Obama as the problem, not the solution. Four more years? Fuck
The thing that pisses me off is that Scarecrow has gray hair, and I don’t. (Hair, that is, not the gray part. I’d gladly settle for the gray if I had, you know, the hair.)
You know what I think is coming next? Judges forbidding protestors from re-protesting under contempt of court and/or some kind of repeat offender categorization, with violation to result in months in jail, maybe up to just short of a year, which is usually the cutoff for serving your sentence in jail versus being sent off to an actual prison. This would be a perfect way to get McKibben, Choi, Jane, etc. out of circulation during the primary season.
Thank you for drawing a line in the tar sands. Your actions have made the larger, moral point. I am proud to be associated with you. I am a flaming firebagger!
A lack of any kind of sense of irony is the hallmark of a conservative, IIRC.
http://www.oil-price.net/en/articles/are-canadian-tar-sands-profitable.php
Never mind environmental damage, the increasing cost of fresh water and health costs due to pollution and of course global warming making beach front property on both coasts underwater property.
Jane, great job of documenting the horrible conditions inside the jail. The more and better job on that, the more incentive for the Obama bots to
stop criminalizing free speechissue the $100 fine/parking ticket.Keep up the good work Jane.
Why is Obama the *cough* popular President jailing people protesting outside the WH peacefully is he more insecure than Nixon ? (who was Paranoid no doubt on that,) Reagan who was shot ( so yes he did have a reason to worry) and Bush who was both (Paranoid and had Ossama to worry about) ?
Obama is more worried about Jane and a few Hippies when Nixon faced thousands protesting?
Just how insecure is Obama?
The last time a peaceful protester was arrested outside the WH before Obama was a Woman’s Right’s activist back when freakin Wilson was President.
Judge people by their actions this action screams blind panic.
Mahalo Nui Loa, Jane, John, Bill, Dan, and all that are participating…! *g*
To the Last Drop…
Conservative protesters would never be treated that way under any circumstances. That is because they have representation in Congress and liberals do not. That’s because the media have strong conservative and pro-government biases.
Liberals will never have any political power for as long as they give their votes away to undeserving Democrats. The people who voted for Nader in 2000 had the right idea.
Did you stay long enough to eat the food Jane? Between the food so bad you can’t eat it and the food that passes through you quick jail is a great place to lose weight the only person I ever saw gain weight in jail was a thin as rails junkie.
Maybe Rep Ryan and Obama could give up their $350 wine and WH chef and just eat jail food:) Then we would not have to cut SS and Medicare so much.
Obama is hiding in Martha’s Vineyard. And he could care less who is protesting, where they’re doing it and what they’re protesting about.
Who knew that the “drill baby drill” administration would be led by President Obama? Elections don’t have consequences, apparently.
Thank you for doing this Jane and for doing the so many things you have been, such as getting information out to the public and taking the stands you have.
You really are a hero Jane.
That kind of treatment is standard operating procedure in jails far and wide…. my sister was in jail, they kept the cells cold, no extra blankets, noise around the clock, one woman was recovering from a surgery and something went wrong. She was bleeding out of her rectum. They let her suffer for days before she got treatment. It is punishment that once in a while, rises to the level of torture. Everyone should spend a few days in jail to see what it’s like. If you are lucky, simple degrading humiliation is the only thing they will inflict on you.
John
http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2010/world/tar-sands-oil-production-is-an-industrial-bonanza-poses-major-water-use-challenges/
Do we really want to waste all this fresh water making oil when people in Texas are already planning to drink their own pee? The world only has so much fresh water.
I do think that it’s high time for a political identity, movement, 3rd party. Civil disobedience is legitimate when legal political remedies fail but we do need a place for legal political efforts and that does not appear to be in the Democratic Party.
Its a hastily arranged cover story nobody wants the President in the WH when there are protests that lead to arrests Congress took a hastily arranged holiday when the Million Man march happened.
I smell blind panic the likes of which Nixon never seen.
350.Org’s Tar Sands Action Solidarity Photos (from in and outside the US)
I have a question: could the president or anyone he oversees directly change this park police policy and their behavior – if he wanted to? I am genuinely curious as to whether he could personally prevent this. Any lawyers out there?
Interesting if next time Jane is arrested she refuses bail and writes about her experience maybe we can get some attention to the crappy way we treat Americans in jail.
There does seem all of a sudden, folks who are using ‘jobs at any cost’ and ‘gotta ignore the environment ‘cuz of the economy’ as the tunes while they try to whistle their way past the graveyard.
Amusingly enough, they ignore that our society still doesn’t allow those holding jobs such as hired assassin or kneecapper or slave trader to operate their businesses openly in the public marketplace. As well as ignoring that the public will given the chance choose environmental concerns over short term economic gain. Folks like these: http://www.kftc.org/our-work/canary-project
edit: additionally this next line is tangential, it may apply, but it is not directed to do so.
When you choose the lesser of evils, what you get is evil.
Just a question: doesn’t the Canadian government care what damage is done to the environment?
let’s face a few facts. obama is not going to be inconvenienced by protesters either sitting in protest or being taken to jail. He might see a few media reports, maybe catch it on CNN or MSNBC but it doesn’t actually affect him. If anything, he smirks about it and moves on. Now if you could find a way to inconvenience him personally it might make a difference. Move the protest to MV and ruin his vacation, which appears to be his main concern at the moment.
Someone in the WH maybe Obama himself assuming he is in control already changed park police policy nobody has been arrested for peacefully protesting outside the WH since President Wilson.
Love you, Jane. You are experiencing firsthand a sampling of the tools that the authoritarian oppressor always has to make the process the punishment. They have a much deeper toolbox still than what they have used. They are trying to break the spirit of any who refuse to act like sheep, it’s clear. Thing is, if they persist in using ever-more-severe tactics against peaceful protesters, what they will inevitably produce is a wave of individually motivated rioters and arsonists like what we just saw in Britain. Just as a pragmatic observation, without advocating for it in any way, there is no effective defense for a centralized security apparatus against an epidemic of individual arsonists and saboteurs. These fools are not only violating every American ideal, but are also likely sowing the seeds of their own destruction. You’ve been my hero for years, Jane, but I have no word adequate to capture the height of esteem you have now achieved in my estimation. Thank you for your courage and leadership.
I wish I knew I am not up on their politics enough to give an opinion and a quick google scan of news articles would not help because I don’t know which news outlets to trust.
I would hate to give you the Fox News view of Canada’s politics.
You’re right. And when he returns to DC, we’ll probably see a return to “Free Speech Zones,” where protesters can be neither seen nor heard. Which will just require us to get more militant.
Or more than 110 people who now have time in jail, fines, court dates and likely misdemeanor records while he has 10 days on MV.
as I did with Jane’s ‘mug shot’, I messaged it to my grandchildren –
Evidently, they don’t care or they would not be offering it for sale. I guess the real question is there any resistence to it? Surely, we can’t be the only people in the world who worries about this. What a mess. So even if Obama says no, they will still sell it and freak up the environment.
Thanks to you, Scarecrow, Dan and all the others.
These are powerful forces that are trying to get at the last difficult drops of oil no matter what it does to the world around us, and it’s courageous and inspiring for you to dig in your heels when they push against you – and us.
“The least movement is of importance to all nature. The entire ocean is affected by a pebble.”-Blaise Pascal
Thank you Jane and FDL. A ripple today will become a wave eventually.
Oh, it was more than King George, it was the British East India Company, the mother of all corporations (something conveniently forgotten by the teabaggers). It was Americans protesting against unchecked corporate power.
Sound familiar?
Good on you, Jane.
Maybe this is our Shot Heard ’round the World. It’s been so easy to marginalize left-wing protestors FOREVER. Maybe, just maybe, the tide is starting to turn…
So let’s get this straight.
When conservatives come armed to Presidential events, nothing happens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjTJ5x144WA
A handful of DFH’s notify the proper authorities, peaceably assemble (there’s that Constitution teabaggers cling to/pay no heed to) and they get THIS?
One need look no further to understand how fucked up things are in our country.
The point is it shows Obama is unpopular with voters. Obama’s political team can laugh at poll numbers but they can’t laugh the people seeing the Green Movement which is in the public mind solid Dem being disappointed with Obama never mind going to jail.
Also the Tea Baggers lose the public perception that they are the opposition to President Obama in the public mind.
The last thing Obama and the GOP want is for people unhappy with Obama to see the fight against Obama, the fight willing to risk arrest come from the Firebagger Left.
The plan was for the Tea Baggers to replay the Nazi rise to power. This was not meant to be a replay of the French Revolution:)
Jane is either lucky, a political genius or both.
Obama and the Tea Baggers are being threatened by our Queen in 11th dimensional chess.
Boy when you put it that way…
Another tactic judges can use is suspended sentences. That’s what happened to a group of us in Minnesota awhile back. The judge said that anyone arrested again at another protest in the following year would have to serve their full sentence. Dissuaded a lot of people from going anywhere near a protest.
Yes there was China wanted to build the pipeline to the Pacific at first but the Indians did not want it over their land.
The current pipeline route was the second choice.
I think you have a really good point here. It plays against these assholes on multiple levels.
Conservatives don’t do 2 week sit-ins. And I wonder if they are effective for anyone. Sit-ins were very effective in the 60s but remember they were new at the time and somewhat intriguing because they hadn’t been done on such large scales. Now people don’t pay much attention. Progessives must find a new way to protest, I don’t believe relatively small scale sit-ins are going to do a thing for the cause. What about something that more people would be willing to participate in, such as economic initiatives? Days without fossil fuel usage? Moratoriums on car purchases?
No. The current Canadian government is a total disgrace on environmental issues. Stonewalling on climate change issues on the international stage is so dreadful it’s become a major embarrassment.
Best Observation all week! Obama is more scared of Hippies than he is of guns the pen is mightier than the sword… and gun:)
groups of First Peoples are scheduled be the last to sit in
All Power to the People !
I watched the live stream video of the protest and arrests today. I admired everyones courage and patriotism. There was a feeling of sadness running through my heart as I thought this is what our country has come to. I salute Jane, Dan, John, and Bill and all the rest who were arrested. mr. president you should be ashamed of yourself and you would not have my vote even if you were the only person running.
Thanks I hope that meme spreads around the blogs:)
Small scale sit-ins don’t really indicate that Obama is unpopular. For that you’d need much greater numbers. btw, Obama doesn’t recognize that he is unpopular, on his bus tour he kept telling people to send a message to Washington as if he somehow is not Washington. He is not ever going to believe that people see him as the problem. He is simply not constitutionally (no pun intended) capable of seeing it that way, he’s the consummate narcissist.
YES.
Sure, but this is one the ways the game is played.
Right now, they have a lot of minds. Someday, somehow, we will have hearts AND minds.
People have been fighting this fight for millenia. We haven’t won, yet. Someday we will, and this is one of the ways to get there…
It used to be, I’ll agree with that. Today I believe it takes something more. We need the 2011 equivalent of a sit-in.
American Indians? Cool we should get some people with telephoto lenses and distance mikes recording the protests 2 weeks of protest would stress any cop. Obama’s political team is not above provoking something violent with a plant to give the cops a reason to stop all the protests.
Maybe the protesters should all be handcuffed to prevent a plant from doing anything provoking?
Kind of reminds me of this recent incident. (Try typing “hyatt h” into your google and see what you get offered.)
Of course, by claiming to think y’all were suicidal —under the circumstances can you think of anything more absurd?— they get to assert that the responsibility is shared.
[Edited to add the predicate up top, and remark that one might take the link into account in assessing the liklihood that orders for some of these treatments might have been handed down from somewhere.]
I think you’d scare them more if you worked to get the Green Party on every ballot. They care about two things money and defeat. If you can’t defeat them, at least make them have to pay to get another vote to replace yours.
Keep on fighting the good fight flaming firebaggers!
Arrested for exercising your First Amendment rights – they (the Park Police) were just following orders. Where have we heard that before?
Our gov’t really has lost its moorings.
Small sit ins you are right are nothing but Obama and his team are acting like they are as i said before other presidents did not panic when faced with peaceful protests and arrested people Obama has.
Obama can read poll numbers sure he is more popular than the GOP but no President has ever been reelected with unemployment this high, gas prices this high etc.
I agree he is a consummate narcissist but that does not mean he thinks he is popular with everyone we Lefties are the Outgroup its ok if we don’t like him in his mind never mind we are the majority of people.
That would indeed be a scary tactic. They do care about defeat much more than any protest.
I think if you were clever enough you could get a lot of votes. Americans despise both parties. Put out some cute ads about voting for a small party. Give them another place for their vote. You could scare both parties.
How is Obama acting as if a small sit-in is something? By continuing his vacation and completely ignoring the sit-in? He will never recognize that he is unpopular, he simply isn’t capable of doing so. When he is not re-electied he will be totally surprised. He will not consider it his fault, I can assure you of that. Oh it will be SOMEONE’S fault alright, just not his.
Go get’em Jane. Just an old hippie who remembers the sit-ins and wishes he had the physical health to join-in. Flaming Firebagger? Hell yes, burn on. Just be careful you don’t trip and fall, one of the establishments all time favorites.
One of the worst aspects of the fascist takeover is that there are so many who if they weren’t so clueless would be appalled at the destruction of our freedoms. I watch the exxonmobile glossy lies on television, knowing that these people are not interested in America, tho they drape themselves in flags. The interests of these and others like the kochsuckers and other theives care less about America and Americans, only where the next billion is coming from. Here’s how I feel about it, assholes, I will fight against you fascists with all I have. Not much, maybe, I don’t have your filthy billions, but with the heart of one who knows what America was, and will be again. Over your bodies, if necessary. You people are garbage. Please stay safe Jane, if I make it to Washington again it will be my honor to shake your hand.
I think he knows he has a problem. How many groups can you piss off and just keep on trucking? I think things are beginning to tighten up for him. Already his African – American base is restive. Listen to Maxine Walters and Elijah Cummings. Now the environmentalists and the firebaggers on the left. Then there is this little thing about unemployment. I also take note that Jon Huntsman (not my guy) is manuevering to the center and away from the right wing. He may capture the business people who could put him over the top.
I have an ugly feeling that this is a preview of how the Obama administration plans to handle the October 6th protests.
Jane, is there inexpensive lodging available for people who may want to join the protest? I’ve never been in jail before (unwillingly), maybe this 70 yo needs a new experience. I haven’t been following the logistics, can someone fill me in?
I have noticed how a whole lot of folks have the position and the means but they just won’t take the simplest action or even sponsor the right actions of others which is a virtuous cycle undoing many harms. Not so with Jane Hamsher, Dan Choi, John Chandley (Scarecrow), Bill McKibben and the entire Tar Sands 65 all of who walk like Egyptians!
You’re crediting Obama with far more ability to see himself as the problem than I believe is warranted. All you have to do to know that he does not know he has a problem is listen to the man. He’s STILL telling people to “send a message to Washington” as though he is not Washington. It will NEVER be about him in his own mind. His African-American base? Please. In his view, where else are they going to go? Same with progressives. I don’t believe he has a snowball’s chance in hell of being re-elected but the man is so far removed from reality that it will not be his fault when it happens.
That is another thing that is going to work against O. Those protests will highlight Wall Street and the wars, as well.People are getting feed up with the bs going on and nothing happening. How many more “pivots” will he get? In a way, it may not matter what O “wants” to do. His time could already be over.
There is an actual etiquette for bowel movements in a crowded cell. “Down one, drown one. Flush early and often.” For future reference.
I hate to be a spoilsport, but could we NOT call ourselves “firebaggers”? could we call ourselves Firedogs?
Why allow ourselves to be defined by the corporate tea party?
It just reminds me of how every scandal ended in a “Gate” after Watergate, like that was the only scandal in American history.
Many of us have been fighting in this and other battles for years and I’d right off the bat to even remotely associate ourselves with such an astroturf movement.
This will go viral if we don’t define ourselves NOW.
Thanks to all the activist sin DC, wish I could be there
I know where you can find a lawyer . . .
From the FDL staff & contributors page, with emphasis added:
Conservatives don’t need to do sit ins. We know why.
You’re right. I think he knows he has a problem but that he can work around it. I am saying he is running out of space, if he has not run off the track already. I am curious though what he will do now.
You have a point that I think needs to be seriously considered. I’ll admit to initially getting a kick out of the name Fire Baggers, but then again, the Tea Party folks who had ignorantly jumped in calling themselves Tea baggers came to later regret it. The same result could occur in this case.
A little embarrassed to say this is the first I’ve heard about Tar Sands. In my defense, there is SO MUCH shit to monitor that it’s a little hard to keep up. Congrats Jane and thanks.
Now, I may have missed this too, but are there suggestions for protesting for people who will not be near DC, and/or would prefer to not risk arrest?
He will think its someone else’s fault but still his actions arresting peaceful protesters show that he is aware this looks bad.
He does not see that by arresting peaceful protesters it makes it look worse.
As FDL’s frequent commenter and diarist, Margaret, so eloquently remarked last week, “the unemployed ‘never,’ get a vacation,” from that circumstance.
Jane,
I have been gone most of the weekend delivering son-of-klynn to college. I came home to read and catch-up. Wow-what-amazing-reporting.
When I read that St. Stephens Church held the training, I smiled and did a dance. St. Stephens was very active in social justices issues when I headed up a social ministry in DC. My favorite and most cherished volunteers who served to fight against poverty and environmental justice were members of St. Stephens.
Thank you for being such a strong voice for the sake of our present and future.
I’m very disappointed in the Park Police. Someone who’s obviously corrupt is pulling their strings, yet they allow it to happen. Ugh, I’m getting that 1968 feeling all over again without the moon shots to distract me.
Thank you. Rep Steve Cohen’s on the House Judiciary Committee and I’m going to write him about this.
Thanks, I haven’t seen his take on what the prez can personally do in the park police policy matter. And I can’t ask him today. :( So I guess I’ll have to wait for the answer, right?
Hoo-Boy!
We be relivin’ the 60s with the cops makin’ the same mistakes they made back then. Crack down on the peaceful demonstrators to send a message and all they got was a helluva lot more demonstrators who were a helluva lot more pissed off.
Like keeping someone locked up for 48 hours pending a court appearance is going to scare them into never demonstrating again. Huh?
Idiots.
Way to go Jane and the inimitable Mr. Crow!
Why don’t we reclaim the liberal label? It’s been all down hill since the party decided to disown itself.
And where is Eugene McCarthy?
Conservatives don’t do 2 week sit-ins…
That they don’t…
US Chamber ramps up push for oil sands pipeline…
The new Partnership to Fuel America arrives as environmental groups are placing political pressure on the Obama administration not to OK TransCanada’s proposed Keystone XL pipeline, which needs State Department approval to cross the border.
The new partnership will be “comprised of American businesses and industries that understand the need for more energy in the United States and believe that Canada’s significant resources can help achieve that goal,” according to the Chamber’s Institute for 21st Century Energy…
…Matt Koch, a former lobbyist for the American Petroleum Institute who has joined the Chamber’s energy branch, will lead the new partnership that will promote the pipeline and Canada’s oil sands more broadly.
“Initially, we’ll be recruiting local chambers, civic organizations and business leaders in states that will benefit from construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline. Over the long term, we will be building a strong network of supporters in favor of North America energy development that will improve our energy security and create jobs,” said Koch, who also served in the George W. Bush administration.
Thank you. I’d hate us to be associated in ANY WAY with them
I don’t know, but we better do it fast. It’s disturbed me from the start.
we need a conference on this board to decide what to call ourselves to the media when they finally pay attention….and they will, one way or another
That is the magic word:Koch. Anything they want, I don’t. Maybe they should have signs saying the Kochs want this pipeline.
Never. Give. Up.
Do you get a jury trial?
Jane, thank you so much for this update. I have a friend there who is being arrested, or has already been arrested today. Don’t know when we will hear more.
Oh, wait, here she is.
Keep up the good work Jane and others!
#proudfirebagger
Misdemeanors are heard by a judge only.
Oh, I should keep up, she was already released.
great idea
Not sure what you’re talkin about… Jane recently detailed a number of arrests at the WH, some of which occurred during W’s terms (e.g., Cindy Sheehan). Difference now is more punitive treatment after the arrest (Dan Choi, Jane et al.,), compared to the previous traffic-ticket-like fine-and-release policy.
Good response. We’re a bit on our own out here.
And to DavidH, I applaud your seeking of more effective measures. I was just hoping to point out that this is one tactic amongst millions – and that everything starts somewhere.
Pointing out to Rosa Parks (yeah I know there’s a LOT more to that story,)back in ’55 that she wasn’t really having an effect might have been true. Saying the same thing to her in ’64 wouldn’t quite be as accurate.
Keep it up, everybody!
Agreed. I sort of liked the firebaggers thing there for a while. Now it’s starting to seem below us.
Hey, greenbell, I’m kind of partial to the term Social Democrat. I know it has no history of use in this country, but I think it is much better descriptor of what most of us seem to value and want.
Any thoughts?
Maybe Charleton Heston was right?????? No arms, no respect? Talk about your bad messaging.
Thanks Klynn.
Trying to figure out where scarecrow, dan and other men are. MET evidently transferred some men around the city to other precincts and we don’t know where they are. We are trying to find out now.
you have made national news in Canada, all day today.thank you for all of this.
“but one of the organizers mentioned that standing up to the oil companies right now — and to corporate America in general — is to us what standing up to King George was to the colonists”
King George wasnt THAT much of an asshole. The crazy king just seems so mild by comparison to the American Corporate oligarchy and their low pay servants in the Political and Judicial Systems
Appreciate you staying on this.
Great news.
For DavidH
That’s what it’s about, not inconveniencing the President.
That totally sux, Jane…! 8-(
Sneaky b*stards…! Diffuse and disperse ‘em…! Will they still ‘prosecute’ them in the same courtroom…?
Central cell block says that both Scarecrow and Dan are still there and have not been transferred.
On a plane to Gitmo?
Ya’ll are still expected to appear in the same courtroom, tomorrow…? Basically, is there a chance the presiding Judge will be Lt. Choi’s favorable Judge, that seems to be taking a dim view of the Park Police/DA’s shenanigans…?
People were first offerred a plea deal, and a couple people agreed to plea guilty to a petty misdemeanor that carried no jail time, only community service. Most people, though, pled not guilty and chose a jury trial. We couldn’t say anything about jury nullification, or we would have been found in contempt.
In the end, all of us were found guilty by the jury – but many of the members approached us afterwards to express their personal support.
Especially since a fair proportion of those being locked up are people who are themselves attorneys like our own Scarecrow.
Wish I was there to help locate them. Glad you found Dan and Scarecrow.
Thanks for the news! Please pass on whatever links you can send us.
Mason, tell C-S thank you from us for her MyFDL diary for jail first-timers:
http://my.firedoglake.com/cranestation/2011/08/21/things-to-expect-in-jail-some-notes-for-peaceful-protesters/
In Minnesota, we were given the option of a jury trial (see my comment at 117).
Nah, that’s just the way fascists roll.
That’s a nice picture. It looks like the officer is helping her.
I also liked this from Jane:
May sanity and simple decency prevail, because that’s what this is all about. Tarsands is flatout insane and arresting citizens exercising free speech in front of the White House – damn. What could be a more clear example of Bill of Rights protected speech, and citizens petitioning their government? How did the law get this crazy?
…are themselves attorneys…
*heh* What a delightful wrinkle that the local DC DA has to iron out…! ;-)
Aloha, Mi Amigo…! *heh* We may be in the middle of nowhere, but, our pono is still strong…! *g*
Pop in for LLN later on…! ;-)
Has anyone tried quoting the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in the courtroom?
There was that retired professor who got arrested for leafleting FIJA pamphlets outside a courthouse in New York. And, having seen a FIJA leaflet that was basically full of quotes from Founding Fathers, I wondered if he was arrested for passing out leaflets that had that quote. Which would be an amazing thing, arrested for quoting a Supreme Court decision outside a New York courthouse. If you all are doing this to educate the public, no finer thing you could do, in my humble opinion, than get found in contempt for quoting the first Supreme Court justice inside the courtroom. Because citizens are supposed to know that their job on a jury is to — oh, let me have John Adams say it:
And that’s precisely what they’re not allowed to learn anymore. You can’t use what you don’t know. And that’s how we became passengers and not participants in self-governance, when we were excluded from knowing our purpose and using our power.
Can I just emphasize that one thing — “and conscience” — because that’s exactly what’s jurors uniquely had and what people need to see is gone now from justice? Now jurors are explicitly told they cannot use their conscience. I was kicked out of a California courtroom during voir dire by the judge several years ago when I answered that I would vote my conscience, and Tim DeChristopher said his jury in Utah was told that too:
I specifically wrote a comment about conscience and juries and the future of environmental protection law on Daily Kos once, concluding:
Hey, another FireDog! I can’t consider myself a firebagger, there’s too much baggage with the word “bagger”.
But, I suspect I’m going to have to adjust.
Also! Just thought of one more thing. How is it that we get wars we don’t want and drones killing people in our names that we don’t want, and torture-murder abominable crap like Abu Ghraib that we don’t want and can’t stop? The constitutional test for torture is “shock the conscience.” Now wars, drones and torture, not to mention accountability duckers like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, shock my conscience, but when exactly is any of that crap going to get legally conscience tested, if not in court, if not by a jury? And since jurors are told they can’t use their conscience and are screened out from serving if they won’t agree to that — you see what I mean? The Constitution is screwed and has been flipped to protect the unconscionable.
I can’t concentrate on much more than the fact that Jane is out of jail and I don’t want Jane to go back to jail again. The preznit and his miserable loser re-election campaign can be defeated in so many ways other than putting our leaders in jail. So, please, Jane, don’t go back to jail until we get through the 2012 elections.
During my anti-draft registration & anti-nuke demo days, my usual place for civil disobedience events was with the National Lawyers Guild marshals. (I was in high school for the anti-war demos so I mostly went to the Quaker non-violence training & marched in the middle of the crowds.)
I think the jury would be puzzled by the John Jay quote. Even the judge might not know what to make of it. When John Jay says, “determine the law”, they would probably hear, “determine if the accused broke the law.”
Our strategy was to show that lives were at stake, compelling us to take extraordinary actions because of exigent circumstances. The analogy we used was if you saw someone trapped in a burning house, it would not be a crime to cross private property, break down the door, and enter the house to save them. According to jury members that we talked to, our oversight was that we didn’t show that we had first exhausted all our legal avenues for action.
Sister Jane. Thanks for speaking up on the right side of the issue.
Looks like document shredding by SEC as reported by Matt is okay but peaceful protest for environment conservation needs to get a lesson. Looks like value system is getting twisted.
BTW You and the team which participated with you are in good & honorable company. Henry David Thoreau, Gandhi, Mandela list goes on and on ….
Nah, adjusting is for Obama not us. ;^)
he doesn’t see it, period. Do you honestly think he spends any time at all considering a few hundred protesters? What is your evidence for this? Has he made a statement, contacted anyone about it, has he even sent one of his minions to talk to anyone about it? No. Action must be more effective if there is even a shred of hope of changing anything. 60′s style sit-ins just irritate other people but not Obama.
He will do nothing.