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At a town hall meeting in Illinois, President Obama reaffirmed that he will personally push for Congress to make Medicare and Social Security cuts part of any talk about deficit reduction or job creation. From the White House Transcripts:
When folks tell you that we’ve got a choice between jobs now or dealing with our debt crisis, they’re wrong. They’re wrong. We can’t afford to just do one or the other. We’ve got to do both. And the way to do it is to make some — reform the tax code, close loopholes, make some modest modifications in programs like Medicare and Social Security so they’re there for the next generation, stabilize those systems. And you could actually save so much money that you could actually pay for some of the things like additional infrastructure right now.
We can close the deficit and put people to work, but what’s required is that folks work together. That’s the big challenge. That’s the big challenge. (Applause.)
So the main thing is I’m here to enlist you in this fight for America’s future. I need you to send a message to your members of Congress, to your representatives that we’re tired of the games. We’re tired of the posturing. We don’t want more press releases. We want action.
“Modest modification” is classic political newspeak code for cuts. The “modest”change Obama indicates he would support, like raising the Medicare retirement age to 67, would cause very real hardship for some older Americans and make every seniors’ Medicare premiums go up.
The new Super Committee doesn’t need to cut our social safety net to reach its deficit reduction targets, but President Obama publicly says he wants to make cuts to Medicare and Social Security part of any deal. The reason Medicare and Social Security are on the table right now is because Obama has chosen to put them on the table. He has the power to take them off the table with a simple veto threat. If Medicare or Social Security get cut in the near future it will because Obama actively worked to make sure the programs are cut.
The much promised “pivot to jobs” after the debt ceiling deal seems to be disappointingly focused on keeping the issue of deficit reduction on the front burner.
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The most liberal Republican in the race. Maybe.
At this point, it’s not just a question of running to be a one-termer.
He’s going to crash and burn the party, straight down the ticket.
This is above all is why he has lost my vote.
And did you see the article today that nursing home costs are going up because of the non-cut cuts to Medicare even before The Super Corrupt Committee gets to hack some more out of it.
I’ll send a message (another one) to my members of Congress all right, but I won’t be tellin’ ‘em what the Prez wants me to.
I’m not tired of their “games.” I’m tired of Obama popping up like some lame jack-in-the-box every so often and reminding us of the extent to which he has sold us out.
And this is me not voting for Obama in ’12.
The president is wandering around the midwest asking voters to lobby congress to cut Medicare and Social Security! Has he lost his mind? This a new low even for him! I thought that his caving in to every Republican proposal was as bad as it can get, wrong! He has now deteriorated to the point of asking people to lobby cuts to programs that they need. This man is a right wing corporate mole. He has no interest in helping people only in hiding Wall Street crime and advancing the cause of corporations. He hides behind liberal talking points while moving in the exact opposite direction. Am I paranoid, just remember that paranoids have real enemies too!
What the fuck does it take to get through to people that these moves are not “mistakes” by Obama?
He is setting the stage and getting people used to the idea that “modifying” SS and Medicare is not only inevitable, it is imminent… while not mentioning that the “modifications” are actually severe cuts that will kill no few seniors outright and put even more out of whatever housing they may have.
And then, at the hight of the next artificially created crisis, he’ll make his move. Perhaps he’ll repeat the debt ceiling “magician’s force” by calling on people to demand their representatives and senators accept a carefully vague “bipartisan compromise”… with the majority of the people remaining unaware that the “compromise” will result in the deep, unnecessary cuts to SS and Medicare that Obama wanted in the first place.
Or perhaps he’ll use another strategy. Whatever it is, it will be executed well.
And it’s going to work.
Again.
And it’s going to work, again, if the idiots in the progressive movement don’t catch on to the fact that, yes, Obama probably really is smarter than they are and that they need to adapt their tactics accordingly.
This can be won, just as the previous battles we lost could have been won, if people will just let go of their fucking egos long enough to acknowledge that while Obama is a tool he is a damned competent tool.
I do not understand what actual power a re-elected Obama would have if the commission deadlocks. To what extent has he decreased his own political significance.
What would happen to Medicare and Social Security if the commission deadlocks – Nothing? If that is the case I definitely do not want mister compromise re-elected. I would be interested learning the possible benefits, if I can use that term, of a deadlocked Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction.
Pleasant (IMO) NYTimes Poll
http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/18/poll-tea-party-less-popular-than-muslims-atheists/
… the Tea Party ranks lower than any of the 23 other groups we asked about — lower than both Republicans and Democrats. It is even less popular than much maligned groups like “atheists” and “Muslims.” Interestingly, one group that approaches it in unpopularity is the Christian Right.
The truthful response to that question will be difficult, and has been difficult, for a lot of people to accept:
Whoever we could get into office will be corrupted already or quickly co-opted once in place. And once they have the tool of their choosing in place the plutocracy will supply whatever brainpower and tools their puppet will need.
And if we choose a solely populist route then the the elites will have unfettered use of the tools they already have in place: the massed corporations that they sit atop of as if on thrones, the utterly corrupt government that forms the lowest layer of the oligarchy, the corporate media, now including the internet and social media, that forms the PR arms of their domains…
In other words the
Catfood Commission IISupercongressplutocratic rubber stamp committee will churn out whatever verbiage and rules-twisting that is needed to obtain the results that our owners desire.And no, we won’t have a say in it. That’s why it was set up in the first place.
Anyone who talks of “influencing” the results of the rubber stamp committee is either unaware of the actual state of affairs or is a fool… or is a tool.
With politicians like Obama, the US will be the biggest of all the banana republics. I want no part of it and I’m tired of fighting against it. Fortunately, I have options in leaving and once my youngest is out of HS, I’m taking them…
Sad part, it was my fight against Obama that lead to my burnout. His corrupt behavior was entirely predictable based on Obama’s political history. And I shouted it from the rafters. That he would, par for his course, capitulate to and protect the rich and powerful at every turn.
And so he has.
This has nothing to do with the strength of medicare or SS. The government has been slowly draining the money out of the SS fund for years. Now it is time to replace some of that money and they are advocating cuts to these programs as a way to cover the absence of funds. SS is paid in from a separate tax and now they are wanting to use this money as their rainy day fund for their pet projects.
King Chaos is just pure evil and needs to go at any cost. Even an individual with his limited ability and intelligence should realize that SS being funded by a separate tax is not part of the budget. Hopefully, the dems in congress will wake up and realize he is just using them as doormats and vote down anything with SS or Medicare cuts in it.
And of course this is what I was speaking of. Only the uniformed, a fool or a tool would think that Obama is unaware of the exact situation.
What he’s counting on is the enforced ignorance and misinformation of the public and that has proven to be a winning strategy.
Unfortunately for your attempt to whistle your way past the graveyard Obama has been able enough and smart enough to get his way on almost every issue… certainly every issue that mattered to the plutocrats… and the Dems will simply do as they are instructed by our owners with an appropriate amount of kabuki thrown in.
And will you watch it all happen yet again while proclaiming how much smarter you are than Obama?
Not “slowly.” W gave SS surplus to rich in 2 fell swoops.
Jane and others have been pointing this out for a long time. Obama is putting it on the table and pushing the buttons.
Hey, FOA! FOC this! Obama’s advisors aren’t paying attention.
I’d like the President to sit down and STFU on social programs!
What kind of people applaud a proposal to cut Social Security or Medicare? Are they Republicans?
Hey! Here’s an idea. Why not create jobs by funding eldercare in quality nursing homes?
Pivot to jobs, my ass. The same old failed Repug strategy of boosting the economy by austerity is being recycled by O.
Obama’s economic policy is beyond incoherent. That’s why his people are so worried about Krugman, because he has a place to call them out on it. This is a policy designed by ad-men, not economists. It’s like poll-testing to determine what kind of rocket booster you need to send a man to the moon. It’s beyond idiotic. We now know what the man in the White House is made of: nothing.
The whole thing is made up to sell the President to the people whom their polls tell them are ‘independents’. Sacrificing the American economy to get re-elected, to what further purpose, we have to ask. If there is none, he does not deserve to be President.
This president must fail. Better to let an asshole who calls himself a Republican get elected to push for these cuts rather than the guy who supposedly represents hope and change.
More “Change You Can Believe In”.
Looks like old folks are going to need a lot more change.
Just let me put on my surprised face :|
They are the NeoCon branch of the republican party.
Gee whillickers, Mr. Wizard, didn’t Debbie Wasserman-Schultz just yell at f*cking r*tarded sanctimonious professional leftist constituents that it was big bad lie that Obama & the Dems were champing at the bit to cut SS & Medicare when she spoke at the Iowa State Fair recently???
http://spectator.org/blog/2011/08/12/debbie-escapes-liberal-heckler#
How ya gonna keep the serfs bamboozled if Barry Zero’s gonna spill the beans to the rubes???
JMHO, of course, but this is Zero’s *boldest* move yet… to reveal just how complicit and bought off he is. I’d give Zero some “points” for being more “honest” about what a venal crook he is, but somehow I just don’t feel like it today.
obama is a fucking monster!
No coattails this time!
Yeah, I don’t recall hoping for SSMM cuts when I voted for O in 2008.
Speaking of focus, truly bad photography.
Failing to primary this asshole will result in someone like Perry winning. There is no way Obama can win. I don’t care what his crazed groupies say. the man is history.
Oh dear, apparently “The American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act of 2010”
didn’t get the job done so now we’ll get the “Modifying Medicare and Social Security and Closing Tax Loopholes Act of 2011″ — can you believe these clowns? They love to hate those loopholes, at least in public, and they have been for generations of politicians.
Why not cut the size of the federal government, one of the few sectors that is still hiring?
Yeah, he just took another layer off his costume and the real Benito is showing through!
Why is he even talking about SS? It is not part of the budget/deficit.
You evidently have missed all the public workers being laid off.
Well…….I suppose it will be President Romney OR President Perry. PPPLLLLLLLLEEEAAAAAZZZZ “don’t you guys let Perry win. Vote inthe repubican primaries. Cross lines. Vote early and often. The great State of Texas begs you, don’t let Perry be our next president and do the nation what he done to Texas.
If the country elects this nimrod to the highest position in the land, we refuse to accept responsibility. We will wash our hands of this like that Pontius guy in the bible.
Why does this guy just not quit and announce he will not run?
Jesus, Obama is a complete tool. Close loopholes and tax “reform”? There’s only one loophole he should be closing — ELIMINATE THE FREAKING BUSH TAX CUTS. I’m ready to puke every time I hear him open his mouth. So in the spirit of it’s better to light a candle than curse the darkness, I just joined FDL. P.O.T.U.S.? No, P.O.S.!
Bush cuts taxes on the rich and put two wars on a credit card.
Obama wants to focus on deficit reduction and cut Social Security and Medicare.
quite possibly- but really I think the pursuit of the mythical idiot “centrist” swing voter is just cover for Obama to do the things that his big money backers want done. He intends to buy his way to a second term, pure and simple.
While I am not uninformed, a fool or a tool, your smug pompous comments are noted. Hopefully, you have enjoyed your moment of superiority and can realize my view is as valid as yours.
You know, Pres, if you really wanted to rally people to exert their voices and energies toward shaping their government, you could try taking positions that people would naturally rally behind. You know, positions that would benefit them. Letting people rally behind your good ideas is much more productive than telling people to rally behind your bad ideas. Just a thought.
Will the madness never stop?
Above the fold at HuffPo right now:
HERE COME THE CUTS
White House Orders Federal Agencies To Start Snipping Their Budgets
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People like me are gonna be among the first to get the axe. I expect the sequence at HHS will be
1. discretionary QI, HIT, and research programs;
2. provider reimbursement cuts;
3. beneficiary cuts.
“Stabilize those systems…”
The big republican lie…just like the deficit hysteria, overall.
Only, it’s not coming from the GOP, but from the leader (loosely speaking…) of the democratic party.
You mean that French director guy?????
I believe that Obama can go fuck himself. Another member of the Professional Left sanctimoniously dismissing him and his “Policies”.
And Mr. Gibbs, I passed the last drug test the VA threw my way-They punitively stop your pain meds should one fail their rather frequent tests for THC, yet another Obama era “Innovation”.
To further gum up the works & eff-up the remaining shambles of what used to be known as the “Democratic” party.
And by the way, if I hear the word “Folks” one more time out of his mouth…. although maybe on the bright side we could turn it into a drinking game.
http://www.bgladd.com/PerrySuperPAC.jpg
Obama, LYING SACK OF SHIT.
I hate this craven, bumbling idiot so much.
Alright. What constituency will scream the loudest when the fire gets up around their knees? Maybe that is where we need to apply the pressure.
Somehow, we are going to have to make common cause with people across the board. Put other issues that we disagree on, no matter how important or how stronly we disagree, aside.
I say SS and MM are the common cause. It is the elderly, for all 3 programs, who are going to catch fire and burn first.
Mr. President: I don’t think this will play well with a large portion of the country.
Just my opinion. Did you run this by Michelle first???????
If his advisors are scouting out how this revelation is hitting the blogs, I’ve got some news for them.
FIREBAGGERS!
On this issue alone, we have plenty of fire in the bag! He done messed up big time. We are watching, every step his makes, every breath he takes against Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid.
Does he not understand this is the back door into ruining his proud papa stance on Health Care Reform?
“Why does this guy just not quit and announce he will not run?”
I make it 50-50 and increasing, that that’s what will happen in 2012.
It would be the best and most statesmanlike thing he’s done on behalf of the american people. I would welcome it.
No, they are Dems. According to a recent Gallup Poll Obama’s approval on the economy is:
Repubs (5%), Independents (23%) and Dems (53%).
Obama, as we have commented previously, has had Medicare and SS “on the table” for some time now, since 2009.
When O said he was going to pivot to jobs, I thought he meant to create jobs, not cut them — which is what will happen when he cuts SSMM. Silly me.
On another website I heard there may be some 30,000 layoffs announced by the end of the month nationwide.
Geeeee. If people keep getting laid off, that might make unemployment go up.
IMO, the “jobs” plan is being introduced now, so late in the game, in order to divert attention from the proposed benefit cuts. But, the plan won’t help most Americans in need of work (particularly women and seniors) and forcing Americans to work longer before Social Security will create a larger job deficit than Obama’s proposal could possibly fill. Robbing Peter to pay Mary and Mary gets stiffed is how I would describe it.
No! The famous Italian Fascist.
Paisan; he only has a proud papa stance with democrats who are so intellectually challenged that they would welcome George Bush’s 4th term.
Yes, indeedy. When W spent like a drunken sailor & rushed the nation into 2 senseless wars of aggression for no reason & ran up a TON of credit card national debt, conservatives couldn’t wait to clap & cheer and then wag their fingers at us sanctimonious purists on the left for questioning that. Plus W raised the debt ceiling FIVE times while in office, and no one said a word about it. It was all good cuz hey: IOKYAR.
Now citizens are adjured to “believe” fairy tales that the debt is solely and only the fault of putative “Democrats,” so it HAS to, therefore, be very very bad. And citizens, both left & right, are slavering for more austerity measures (I hear it from many friends, no matter who they vote for).
So these so-called “needed austerity measures” means that, once again, the middle & working classes are RIPPED OFF for the fun & profit of the plutocracy.
Lord only knows, we sure as hell canNOT exepct the upper 2% to contribute their FAIR SHARE. Nope. No taxes on the mega-wealthy cuz they’re gonna create jobs ‘n stuff…. any day now…. aaaannnnyyyy day now…. just keep clapping louder for Tinkerbell!!!! aaaaaaannnnnyyyyy day now…
From Jon: “The much promised “pivot to jobs” after the debt ceiling deal seems to be disappointingly focused on keeping the issue of deficit reduction on the front burner.”
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Didn;t Biden PROMISE us now that the debt ceiling issue was “settled”, we’d focus on “jobs, jobs, jobs.”???????
Guess Joe just ain’t in the loop.
Oh………..THAT makes more sense. Thanks.
“I’m tired of Obama popping up like some lame jack-in-the-box every so often and reminding us of the extent to which he has sold us out.”
Perfectly said – the mental picture is worth a thousand words.
Yeah, yeah. He is trying so hard. Those mean repugs just won’t let him do anything good. (arrgghhh!)
That “pivot” to jobs didn’t last very long.
“…. any day now”
I was wondering if we could schedule that for next Thursday?????
He just doesn’t seem to care how much unemployment there is out there or the level of hurt he puts on people by his cuts to SSMM and now at the agencies. That is not the manner of a democrat following the new deal or the great society. He must quit. Is there no one to whisper in this guys ear that he must go, if he has any feeling or respect at all for the people who elected him. You would expect this from a thug, but not a democrat, even from a blue dog for shits sake.
Nancy Pelosi and the Progressive caucus need to start campaigning that they will fight to protect the Social Safety Net from Repubs and President Obama. He is actively trying to cut these programs. He has not asked that anything be returned in exchange for cutting these programs. No revenue increases, no infrastructure jobs bill, nothing. He is demanding these be included to help his Repub friends in the House who are vulnerable to attacks because of the Kill Medicare vote in the Ryan plan/budget. Dems need to run on protecting the social safety net from the President.
Twelve and a half years of feeding those coddled parasites hasn’t created a damn thing except a larger vaccum for the money flow.
“…didn’t last very long”????
I was in the bathroom just doing #1 and I missed it completely.
One thing that is often overlooked is the impact on children of elderly parents who need assistance. Reductions in both SS and Medicare benefits will force many adult children to make up the difference. In other cases, unemployed adult children may be currently living with their elderly parents who may have the only source of income. That will hurt the younger people, too. Mainly, Republican support comes from the 30 and under crowd, whose parents probably haven’t reached SS retirement age, yet. But, just wait….
Eh? Why should Zero quit?? My bet is that Zero will “win,” will “win” big, so that Zero has big “mandate” to continue the rapine, pillaging and plunder for the benefit of the plutocracy. From the perspective of the upper 2%, Obama is their “guy,” and he’s doing an outstanding job.
I really don’t think he’ll quit. I think he’ll “sweep” 2012.
JMHO, of course; could be quite wrong. Only time will tell…
The “folks” in Washington just can’t leave anything alone. Social Security and Medicare work perfectly. They not only want to cut them but I’m sure they’ll do some tinkering so that nothing works well at all.
If he were really pivoting to jobs, he would not be off on vacation. With the unemployment job cancer on us he should be in DC and he should be putting the plan out there. I think he is off hiding.
Yeah, it evaporated very quick. Like Obama’s promises of hope and change.
All you need to know about how Evil Obama is below
Federal Budget Cuts: White House Budget Chief Jacob Lew Orders Agencies To Reduce Spending Plans
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/19/federal-budget-cuts-jacob-lew_n_931146.html
The article above tell us how Obama wants to lay off more USA citizens.
Obama will give his JOBS Speech for the USA in SHAGHAI China. “You thought OBAMA cared about USA jobs? you were wrong
Below, Obama gives his masters 16 trillion
Federal Reserved gave Foreign Banks 16 trillion
http://tsandi.newsvine.com/_news/2011/07/26/7169626-fed-gives-away-16-trillion-to-foreign-banks
another link
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/309485
A nation that has an extra 16 trillion to give away is not broke
The actions above, clearly supports how OBAMA wants to kill the USA middle class, and kill USA citizens. “Yes USA citizens will die because of OBAMA actions”
and
OBAMA like Bush wants to make the super rich, richer!!!
The OBAMA WH knows that progressives know he gave his masters 16 trillion dollars, and they still are seeking cuts for the USA middle class.
Words can not describe how Evil OBAMA really is!
Can anyone name someone who is as Evil as OBAMA? really
Obama gives Banks 16 trillions
Obama takes TRILLIONS from the USA middle class
Again I ask who is more EVIL than OBAMA? anyone?
so does anyone know? are the orange folks with “mojo” proclaiming this is GOOD and even more reason to vote obama in 2012?
I am reminded of the tea party sign ” keep your hands off of my SS and Medicare”. King Chaos may be trying to woo the indies but indies receive SS and Medicare too. Seems this is the one item repubs, indies and dems can all agree on. With this message his approval will fall out the bottom soon. Looks like a bloodbath for all those in congress in 2012.
I sure hope those college republickcans are having as hard a time finding jobs as the rest of the country. Of course, they are all living off of parents anyway.
From now on we need to call it the ‘Super Looting Committee’,
‘Catfood Commission’-style.
Ugh!
You are right, and I know I don’t have to say that it will be too late, if we wait.
We need to scare the crap out them. And this won’t be the fake, scare tactics of the Dems and Repubs, they need to be scared with the truth!
Well, OTOH, 12 years has created incredible wealth beyond all imagining for the upper 2%, while simultaneously causing the rest of the 98% to see our meagre savings being grabbed by the super wealthy and our standard of living go way down… and now, if we’re “lucky” enough to have a job, we get to work a whole lot longer and have less to show for it.
so, I guess there is that….
The only influence 0bama is going to have is on likely Dem voters and the only pressure they can exert is on Dem politicians. I suspect team 0 is too stupid to realize what they are doing but that would be giving them too much credit.
Obama is worse than learned helplessness. That team Obama, OFA, also seems politically incoherent with rare exception when they bucked the pluff, is it any wonder why they flock to him? The banksters and 0 need help, the sheep won’t shear themselves.
The Dem Party has the same weakness as Bush’s undead core who also embraced their leader regardless of how many of them he kills. What was Bush’s core %? What will be Obama’s when he reaches his low point? Care to wager it will be the same percentage? I’m unsure what that means except that both parties are filled with traitorous to their own class enablers and 0 is banking on it.
We’ve got Pelosi and Reid to defend us and the pillars that the democratic party was built on………………………
Man are we SCREWED.
Our parents were “the greatest generation”. For us, our new name will be the “tuna and macaroni & cheese generation.”
Candidate Obama in his own words.
“[Republican presidential candidate John McCain's] campaign has…suggest[ed] that the best answer to the growing pressures on Social Security might be to cut cost-of-living adjustments or raise the retirement age. I will not do either.”
[Speech to the AARP Convention, C-Span, September 6, 2008]
“I do not want to cut benefits or raise the retirement age. I believe there are a number of ways we can make Social Security solvent that do not involve placing these added burdens on our seniors.”
[Op-ed in Quad City Times, Iowa, September 21, 2007
"The best way forward is to first look to adjust the cap on the payroll tax. .. Ninety-seven percent of Americans will see absolutely no change in their taxes under my proposal. ... What it does allow us to do is to extend the life of Social Security without cutting benefits or raising the retirement age."
[Obama campaign video, YouTube.com, October 16, 2008]
I work for a federal contractor non-profit. We employ about 120 people. My wife works for a privately held for-profit federal construction / environmental contracts. They employ between 300-400 directly, and have many subs.
Two ordinary people who know more than 500 or so whose jobs are the result of federal money.
What a fucking asshole.
Nah, Obama’s not hiding. Why should he do that?
Obama is a narcissistic sociopath. He’s on vacation bc, just like W before him, Obama doesn’t give a sh*t about anyone except himself. Obama got his; EFF the peasants.
The end.
Because he is a Neo-liberal corporate tool. Naomi Klein has told us what the results of his policies will be.
Well put.
Wouldn’t it be strange if the “libruls” and the TEA party found themselves on the same side of an issue. It IS true, “politics makes strange bedfellows”.
haha )
Yes, and he just named a Monsanto officer to head up the agriculture department!
Soon the only food available will be corn with real ears!
Boy, you must have some cash stashed under your mattress or buried in a jar in your backyard, if you can afford TUNA, CHEESE & mac.
I think we’ll be known as the Kibbles ‘n Bits generation, myself.
Already the repugs are running as the party that will SAVE social security: Congressman Upton (R. Michigan), who serves on the Stooper Committee, has vowed to save social security — albeit for current recipients (which is the BIG LIE part).
So the POTUS is giving the repugs the tools they need to sweep him out of office. Just like they did in 2010 when Obamacare was cast as cutting Medicare.
Plouffe need some home schoolin’, or what? Wake up. The repugs are blocking your shots and taking it to the basket the minute you start even mentioning messing with social security.
Hands off my social security, Mr Prezdent!
Are you Fucking Kidding Me??
WORD!
“If you are lucky enough to have a job.”
Fewer and fewer of those lately.
dang – this is just too back-@sswards
By embracing again and again, failed Republican economic theory, and by trying to do more to dismantle entitlement programs than any Democratic President in history, President Obama is on course to completely disenfranchise tens of millions of Democrats in the 2012 Presidential election; who are we supposed to vote for?
Regardless of whether Obama or his opponent wins, we end up with a Republican in the White House.
Thanks for that (truly). It’s good to remind citizens about what a sleazy LIAR Obama is. Some citizens haven’t quite grasped what venal, scum-sucking bought-off bottom-dweller he is.
Obamabots
NOPE! It’s the TWOOPH!
It’s time to vote for the greater of two evils. Voting for the lesser just doesn’t work. With a hard right winger in the WH the people will be forced to unite and act collectively.
That may be the case, and the Repugs may run on that platform. However, like their NeoCon/NeoLiberal BFF, Obama, the Republicans then immediately turn around and GUT SS & Medicare, too.
What’s the difference? There is none.
I’m 60 years old. I’m full of anger and hatred.
How is he going to face the people in the future? He will have more than one encounter with people who are pissed at him and they will tell him. My bet is he will hide more frequently in the future. His speeches will fall increasingly on deaf ears. Maybe he will pivot to jobs again?
I agree. Either that or vote third party. No sense in voting for “Democrats” at this point. They are bought-off liars who on fool citizens MORE than conservatives.
Well, that would probably be Perry.
But if we are going to lose, why not go down fighting for a 3rd party or a primary candidate?
http://www.takepart.com/news/2009/03/09/obama-to-appoint-monsanto-exec-to-food-safety-post-hungry-for-change/
Fiat amnesty for illegals. Medicare and SS cuts for US citizens. Oh yeah, that’s gonna go over real well.
Channel that into useful political activism. Talk to your friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, about what’s really going on, for starters.
Illusions of democracy and willful ignorance of the problems of the world has become the hallmark of American politics.
Fucking hell. Monsanto to run Agriculture! W.T.F.!?!
WOW!
Monsanto Officer over agriculture? WOW
Obama will next put an EXXON officer over the EPA
It takes a EVIL person to ask for cuts? know he is giving trillions to Banks.
Has anyone seen the Devil? is he living in the White House? just asking
Obama is starting to make Hoover, and Bush, look like Progressives.
Obama clearly will hold the title of worse USA president ever.
Obama is already polling in 30′s% range, after he cuts Social Security, Medicare, and Medicade will we see the first president polling in the teens?
That could be the right strategy if we can elect a congress that will at least hold on to what we have left. I think there is a problem now in that he drags the dems in congress along with him. Without him, they may start to respond to the electorate. The only problem is the next two appointments to the supremes.
This is yet another example of how badly Obama and his team of “expirts” hate the American people.
He needs to be impeached. He needs to be brought down for fake policy initiatives at his election.
HORRIBLE. Utterly unsurprised, but yet another indication of how completely CORRUPT and bought-off Obama is.
I refer everyone to the excellent documentary “Food, Inc.” for an easy way to learn about the EVIL that is Monsanto.
Thanks for that info. Very very disgusting.
geeeeee…
nothing about this at the big orange site – why dont the folks with all the mojo want to talk about this?
Yeah. Amazing.
Again: WTF is the *difference* bet Obama & Dick Cheney again??? I see none, other than Obama is just taking Cheney & Kissinger’s policies further down the trail.
Guess they’re waiting for Zero to whip out that eleventy-dimensional chess board…. gonna be a loooooong wait, methinks.
Yes. I believe Maxine Waters got her clock cleaned at the job fair stint. She finally ended up saying that the Dems would get out from behind Obama when the constituents told them to do so.
I say, they haven’t been listening. AGAIN! So, what else is new?
I’m 39 years old and filled with anger and despair and worry for my young children.
The man is an economic illiterate. He agrees with the thug theory of employment: get the government out of the way since it is crowding out private investment. The best way to do that is to cut it. He is not our guy, but shit, Perry?
Hell, I don’t think it was Chess Pieces that I felt showering down on me when he did that whippin’ out.
Meanwhile, over at DKos, a rec’d diary blares:
Obama Is Already One of America’s Greatest Presidents.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/19/1008608/-Obama-is-Already-One-of-America’s-Greatest-Presidents-?via=siderec
AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhh *&%##@*&!!#$*&)@!!!!!
I am worried too and they are not so young. The only that helps me is to go outside and just scream once and a while. My wife thinks I am going crazy.
Thanks Mr. Walker . . . this president disgusts me to no end, n I thought I’d NEVER despise a president more than Nixon or Reagan.
N the two Bushies.
May I humbly suggest based on this diary and it’s attributions, that each and every Firebaggin Pup that ever read this forum craft some kind of short and terse missive and flood the WH EMAILS with our disgust and derision. Immediately.
Harumph . . .
This may well be what it takes. As long as they keep the people sorted into neat little groups they have all of the control. One group willnot have the necessary power to give them the needed shock back to reality.
Thank you again for that great graphic yesterday!
Yes, I have already sent a half dozen this past six weeks or so. I get a nice standard response. Really helps – - not.
Nothing says Wall Street Mascot, like this!
Yet again, some of us under-estimate how evil OBAMA really is
What is he waiting for?
He should put BP over the EPA?
On MSNBC, they keep saying that practically any day now President Obama is likely to say something encouraging to progressives, and that he will vow to fight the Republicans on policy principles, win or lose.
I’m not convinced.
F**K YOU Obama !! Just F**K you… I’m tired of you sounding like Tom Coburn at every turn.. I’m sick of your give-aways..I’m sick of you not having any spine… I’m sick of you letting your supporters get the crap beat out of them every time they open their mouth on an issue… Schools, jobs, homes, water, roads, city halls.. All of it.. You cave on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE as I said so that you now sound like Tom Coburn. So IF you don’t get your head out of your ass and LOOSE in 2012 – real possibility – and a rethuglicon gets elected – the US will be scraping upward to be a third-world country by 2014… AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT.
Agreed. Call and write your critters that they should lift the SS cap, lower the retirement age to open up the job market, open Medicare to all, negotiate drug prices, retain IP for government funded research, raise taxes on the top 2%, and pass a fucking jobs bill NOW (and not just stupid tax cuts), even if that means adding to the debt.
Hear him!!! Hear him!!!
No clearer truth spoken than yours.
Right effing on!
This is deliberate, and WE THE PEOPLE are getting screwed and will die early from it all.
*disgustforprez*
Yes, montymarket – that ‘save Social Security for the present generation’ is just as phony as all the malarky before the insurance companies got everything they wanted on health care. Both parties have their own Agenda of Greed, and they don’t care where they go to steal the next bit of common wealth away from any of us.
How dare Obama continue on this track?
The pushback is only going to grow, and at least as he continues to insert this duplicitous point into every speech he makes, more and more ‘folks’ are starting to watch for it, the other shoe dropping, and without fail – yes!-it drops. As if he is constrained not to take any cognizance of what the growing frustration of the American people with his tactics is producing in opposition to him.
Well, that may be a good thing in the end. We’re certainly getting plenty frustrated with him. That has to lead somewhere. I’m putting my money on the creativity of the American people when a heist of these proportions is underway. Locally we had an immigrant young man, only spoke Spanish, take off after a child abductor and rescue the child, on the basis of his New Mexico driver’s license, which is currently available to non-residents in order to have responsible people driving cars in this state. That child would most certainly have died after being horribly tortured had he not been able to do that and rapidly contact the police.
Surely we can be as courageous as that man, whose good feelings for the state in which he resides actually saved a life. We need to protect the laws we have in place that prove we are still a civilized country.
You ain’t listening.
I’m talking a mass email sending, all Pups.
Let’s Krugmanbag the fuckers!
Anything to let them know we disapprove and their shit don’t go down unnoticed!
First they ignore us . . .
Here’s an idea. Run for Congress critters who will oppose the President. Put our backing behind Democrats who will stand their ground instead of going Republican with the big O. That puts a block on anymore legislation from the deceiver in Chief. He’s been complaining about how he wants the American people to lean on Congress, well, we could ask them to lean on the President.
My pleasure!
I can’t believe that there aren’t protests all over the route of his little Midwest jaunt in his Canadian-made bus.
Or maybe there are, it is just that the bought and paid for corporate media whores aren’t reporting it.
My mother would be shocked at my language, but I can’t talk or write about any of this without expletives.
bluedot, do you scream, “I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more!”?
KRUGMANBAG! That is brilliant.
Expletives are fine in this case.
Well, I just told the President to sit down and STFU! After all the things he and his advisors have said to and about the Progressive Liberals, I’m not convinced either. All he wants is for us to support him long enough so that he may kick us in the head again.
I’ve been thinking that if Perry got elected prez, and if he really does shave his legs, then he would be the first MFOTUS. But with this article I’m convinced that Obama deserves the title.
Do you ever wonder that we are witnessing the decline of western civilization? Look at Europe these days. They are also all wound up in this austerity thing and they cannot come to any agreement to solve their very real debt problem (as opposed to our manufactured one). Do we have to go through another great depression and then a fucking war to get out of this? really?
That sounds good but the president has a lot of power over his own party members. I doubt we can get enough to really block him, but it is a good thought.
Fool me three hundred and forty two times, shame on you. Fool me three hundred and forty three…
Howdy Tan!
You KNOW I been suggesting he will be TOLD to step down by the DIM Party Leaders . . . n I still think HRC or a military guy will be the candidate.
Which will lead to Jeb Bush being anointed by the GOP, and will be the winner with or without Diebold or suits or the Supremes.
You KNOW I been sayin this for months now . . .
*G*
Not even The Dude can abide this shit.
Oh! That big annual Jackson Hole, Wyoming economic meet up is happening soon. I wonder if they will even allow economist like Krugman, Baker, Stiglitz and others to attend.
I’ve really had it with the Chicago school of economic disaster capitalists!
Obama is the most brilliant and effective leader the Republicans have ever had, and is achieving everything the Repubs have dreamed of. So far there is no Democrat willing to primary Obama.
Ron Paul is a strong contender (or would be, if there weren’t a media black-out on him) in the Republican primary. He is bad on social programs; Obama is worse, because Obama is successfully destroying them.
But here’s the important difference that has gotten Ron Paul blacked out by the corporate media: Ron Paul will end the wars, end the War on Drugs (which is really a war against blacks and the poor), end the NAFTA-type trade agreements, and restore civil liberties including habeas corpus and the Constitution.
Ron Paul, like Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich, is unacceptable to our corporate masters who control the Democratic and Republican parties. We can sit here and blog about how much we despise Obama and the rest of the sell-out Democrats who are actively promoting the destruction of our lives, or we can resist in a way our overlords can’t ignore, by getting a real opponent to Obama’s policies into the presidential race on the Republican side. The media won’t cover a third party candidate; they will have to cover the Republican candidate.
So yesterday I donated to Ron Paul’s campaign here: http://www.ronpaul.com/
I signed up for a free Ron Paul for President bumper sticker here: http://www.bullion-and-coin.com/ron-paul-2012/
I ordered five Ron Paul for President bumper stickers for $5 (total) here:http://www.ronpaulstickers.com/
And I can’t wait to vote for Ron Paul in the Republican primary.
Larue,
You could be right about that one. Right now they are planning and hoping they will run against a Perry jerk. It is very early in the game though.
Maybe some of us pups should attend. With signs and bullhorns. And Krugman!
x2.
Mr. President…God Damn. Son Of a Bitch. You don’t have the balls to raise taxes on the super rich. You probably enjoy off shore tax shelters yourself. Yet you want to cut Social Security and Medicare. What utter shit. Things are TERRIBLE out here you traitor. Say good bye to the WH because no one can swallow your shit enough to MAKE themselves vote for you again. Why don’t you and Bachmann hook up to enjoy together another one of those corporate foot longs?
That would be great, but it would have to be more than some. You’d also have to call up Al Jazera English to cover it because the regular snooze won’t.
Would it really be so awful if people like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates didn’t get their SS or medicare? Are they actually going to miss it?
fyi – sorry I missed this thread in real time
Optics-wise – POTUS is standing in front of ‘the seed corn’ (look it up)
but equally bad, he is standing in front of GMO Seed Corn – says so much about his Presidency and his Party
Kris@148 Gonna have to do some heavy thinkin’ on that. I order for that to happen could he maybe change to Indie? My hand goes numb whenever I try to pull a repub lever. The pain is intense, just sayin’….
That is for sure. I have been bugging my local cable company to include AJE but even tho they keep adding channels they say there isn’t enough interest in my area to include it.
Yeah, I’ll just bet.
I ain’t so brilliant, but occasionally I DO have my moments of clarity . . ;-)
Thanks.
This Monsanto appointment is really a nightmare.
And the first lady has the nerve to push ‘healthy eating’
while they take the grocery money from struggling
families. Shameless and sick stuff.
I read that they are adding it in the New York area as a test to see how much viewership it gets. Don’t know if that is true or not as I do not live there.
This is why we need an FDL store where we can buy our plastic LED illuminated pitchforks and liberty torchs that can also glow red for anger. As well as T-shirts and other goodies. Show up someplace occupied by the VTB (vermin that be) and stay after dark. FDL could make a fortune selling activist stuff to finance their action FDL ads.
Ron Paul is totally unacceptable to me for the reasons you describe regarding gutting social programs.
Not to mention he’s a misogynist, racist, homophobic and completely unhuman.
You are uninformed or are complicit in his complete and utter failings as a human being.
They did a great special on economic inequality in America. I think they would probably cover any events we asked them to attend.
It’s all kabuki.
Obana has served the overlords well, but his expiration date is coming due.
So they’ll need Jeb to further the work of the corporate fascists.
N the Super Committee to run kabuki smoke for Jeb in the process.
It’s rather simple IMHO . . . n obvious . . .
It is easy to set up a CafePress store and pretty cheap monthly. I used to have one, but I am not at all creative.
PI and some of the Krugmanized Firebaggers around here could come up with some great stuff, I have no doubt.
Heh, this thread is alive and kicking it would seem, you missed nuttin hoss!
I’m quite amazed at all the new names I see in comments that feel the same as I do . . . it’s quite refreshing that they FAR outnumber any paid trollings . . . I wonder if it’s a trick . . ;-)
BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
well, if it wasn’t such a disaster for our nation
those folks at big orange must all be drunk with markos’ mojo
Why not cut the size of the federal government, one of the few sectors that is still hiring?
Hiring?! Where have you been?
Today OMB warned all Federal agencies to plan for their FY2013 budgets to be 10% less than FY2012.
The number of agencies requesting permission to offer early-outs and buyouts has increased every day this week. Many of the rest are “considering” doing so.
Yes, there are open Federal positions, but with the nutcases in Congress taking hostages over every budget related bill, the odds of another government shutdown are very good.
The Republicans have set out to demonize public employees — if they keep it up, recruiting for Federal positions is going to become very difficult, why would anyone want to work in an organization where their pay is frozen, there is no possibility of promotion because the budget won’t bear it, and where you may not have a paycheck because some political twit is having a hissy over the existence of your agency?
they have been sniffing their orange magic markers
“The much promised “pivot to jobs” after the debt ceiling deal seems to be disappointingly focused on keeping the issue of [benefit cuts] on the front burner.”
There, Jon, fixed it for you. Obama is taking (vacuous) job promises hostage to push for his Grandiose Bargain. The pivot is a red herring, bait and switch. Obama will not push for anything even superficially job related until cutting Social Security is a done deal to the point that the new flow is from the SSA Trust Fund to the Treasury, instead of the reverse.
All you need to know to predict the outcome is this:
“President Obama reaffirmed that he will personally push for Congress to make Medicare and Social Security cuts part of any talk about deficit reduction or job creation. (Applause.)”
What ails the nation is the staggering surplus of gullible fools.
Senator Sherrod Brown has a petition to make sure the super committee and dems in general do not do anything to SS and Medicare at
all.
Go to the link below to sign:
http://www.sherrodbrown.com/
OH PLUHeeeze. Obama is the best little stooge the elite ever had. Not only have they proven they own the Dem party, they’ve proven they can throw people out of their homes by the millions using fraud and barely answer. They proven that what ever the Repubs do, empty the treasury into the elite’s hands or start a war(s)on a lie the Dems will cover.
Dem/Repub You say Patahto, I say Potato. Who fucking cares, we’re being screwed royally by the one percent.
Did any Ordinary Americans show up to tell O to stuff it? Or do they just show up for Republicans (plus Debbie W-S)?
sneaky suspicion here: they were most likely all props like the Chimp used to have set up.
Larue, I would appreciate very much some more specific information on the charges you make here. I have indeed often heard similar things about Ron Paul, but nobody has bothered to clarify – all I need is some specifics on what he has said to give you this opinion of him. Completely neutral myself, so this is a genuine request.
I think we really need a voice on war efforts, and I had heard, (again, no specific quotes) that Ron Paul has modified his views on social programs. I would appreciate some hard and fast specifics on that also.
It is no detriment in my book that the mainstream media is ignoring him. But it would be if his views on social programs are as negative as you imply. I do think we need at the Lake some fuller account of where Ron Paul stands and what he stands against, as well as for.
Here is a beginning for you. Both Ron and his son Rand are long time Ayn Rand supporters. They are the, “I stole mine, grabbed it as it was not noticed so to hell with you” kind of people.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/08/ron-and-rand-paul-on-the-campaign-trail-waterloo-iowa.html
Also, you can Bing or Google all of Ron Paul’s policy positions. It doesn’t have to be thrown up on a blog site that is eternally against neocon theology.
There’s a fairly simple solution rather than cutting medicare and SS. Citizens are given a choice to fill out a form attached to their IRS tax forms that allows you to opt out and/or modify the retirement age. So the pontificating anti-safety net republicans, DINO’s, and tea party gang can sign their John Hancocks and back up their rhetoric. The rest of us will not have to live the minority’s wetdream and keep what we have. Also, all executive government employees from Presidents to the last retired parasite living the good life via the taxpayers are switched to the healthcare and SS system that’s good enough for the rest of us.
As for Obama I didn’t vote for him, I voted against McCain. At the time I foolishly believed there was a difference.
We want action.
We want you to resign
We want action.
We want you to stop kissing Peter Peterson’s ass
We want action.
We want the DNC to stop sucking up to Wall st
We want action.
We want out of the wars
We want action.
We want you to stop lying about NAFTA type trade deals
Warren Buffett would try to make you believe that he would opt out of SS cause, you know, he’d really like to pay more.
But what harm would it do to means test the rich out of both SS and medicare?
Shameless and sick indeed.
How bout some virtual tar and feathers.
All part of the Grover Norquist Starve the Beast philosophy. Big gubmint going, going, gone.
Thank you, PeasantParty. I also went over to ronpaul2012.com and read some of his positions and indeed, I cannot support his stance, much as I would think it no threat for the media to give him his fair chance. It’s a great pity that there are such huge domestic gaffes in what would be a very sensible international position.
No, I reverse my earlier comment that I might vote for him if he continued to be ignored. He’s way out there for sure. We can do better.
Outstanding recommendation, I’ll go make some calls…
p.s. I added one item to your list: let the Bush Tax Cuts expire
“There’s a fairly simple solution rather than cutting medicare and SS. Citizens are given a choice to fill out a form attached to their IRS tax forms that allows you to opt out and/or modify the retirement age.”
I’m not sure I understand what this would solve.
must keep the markers in their butts…
ooops! don’t mean to sound rude, but we’re taking about the big orange fooooools here, hard to just use glowing terms.
Markos always sounded like a repug to me, but one that wanted to control the dialog from the other side – guess that take was largely right.
And, Allan; if he runs, he will crash it.
Did you see that U. of Chicago economist on the Lehrer News Hour (or whatever it’s called these day) defending income inequality. Boy would I like to see his assets seized, his pay cut to minimum wage, and then hear what he thinks about it in 5 years. Bastard. Thief. Oh yeah, Professor. Just the kind of guy we want teaching the youth of America…
*G*
mushroommushroom
LOL ; )
“Guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue” ; )
heh!
DON’T SCARE ME LIKE THAT!
http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
Larue, they’re not ignoring us anymore. Now, they’re squealing like stuck pigs as we go after the sellout artists.
We are the people who worked the hardest to put Obama in the White House.
The least we can do is work hard to assist him in taking his great bi-partisan skills into the private sector. :o)
It’s a means test. Who’s gonna sign up for self-inflicted austerity measures? An article I read yesterday (can’t find it) stated medicare is not following the proposed trajectory of run away inflationary costs as predicted by the republicans and DINO’s. Rather the actual costs are rising modestly and may top out and start shrinking. As for social security the simple solution is lift the $106,000.00 income ceiling and/or remove it.
Obama knows that America and Americans are going to be poorer in the future. So isn’t it his job to get the message out?
The moron over at washington monthly is trying to nail repugs on their attacks on social security.
Like the mindless obamabot benen is, he fully overlooks that its obama that is trying to rally the country to cut the most successful program of all time even though everyone knows that austerity ain’t gonna grow the economy.
the obama dude needs to be defeated!
washington monthly was all over dur chimpfurher when he started his SS bamboozle tour. TPM led that parade and, like all the other obamabots, won’t cover any of this, actively trying to shove it down the memory hole.
kitty been zapped one too many times, apparantly. No president since Roosevelt has won re-election with unemployment over 7 1/2%. No Democrat has ever been elected President who has campainged on cutting social security or medicare. Now all this might make sense if he was seeking the Republican vote, but, oh wait, thats right, no Republican has ever won the Presidency while advocating increasing taxes. Humm…yea, Obama and cronies are real smart. About as smart as you.
This is the sound of me voting for Obama next year: ( )
Isn’t it time for a coordinated DE-REGISTRATION FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY campaign?
What else will get their attention????
But, along with his wanting to go after SocSec/Medicare/Medicaid for a looooong time now, I have been saying he also wants to destroy the Dem Party. His actions sure point to that objective.
His moving the DNC to Chicago (say what?) during his first campaign seemed mindless stupid…unless he wanted to undermine the actual party apparatus.
no one says you have to vote for Perry or any other Teabagger moron. How about voting your conscience? Say for a lesser known but more progressive candidate (ie. Ralph Nadar etc…)? Thats how democracy works. Obama obviously doesn’t think he needs the progressive vote to win, so why force it on him?
impeach Obama for corruption,cowardice,stupidity,lying and basic gross political malpractice
When was this professor on NewsHour? Thanks. Or link would be OK, too.
Absolutely. The Buffett’s of the world are cheapskates because they are Hoarders. They stiff you with the restaurant bill, pay their employees starvation wages, overcharge their customers, and demand tax incentives to do business in this country. They belly up to the societal freebies of tax handouts as if everyday is christmas. They’re a gang of parasites. Opt out of the best insurance programs; social security and medicare? I think not.
He dug the hole, the Democrats jumped in. If they had morals, they would not have jumped.
wsmoke said
Why would you think that I feel superior? I feel somewhat frustrated, regretful and a little sad at the human condition… but I don’t feel superior.
Except it’s not. Not all viewpoints are equally valid.
Be grateful for that. Would you want Bachmann’s viewpoints to be as valid as Krugman’s?
You do have the right to your own viewpoints. This is a right to be treasured.
And one or more of your viewpoints can be wrong. That’s life.
Trying to erect a framework wherein Obama is incompetent and unintelligent is wrong.
Simply wrong.
And if you believe in progressive, liberal or even old-school Democratic party ideals then underestimating Obama in such a manner is a fatal strategic error.
He’s not some sort of superman, but he is a competent and intelligent tool for our owners.
I tried show where obamabots can put their crap about supporting the repug pig in the WH by posting an ascii butt (http://www.ascii-art.de/ascii/ab/butt.txt) but the comments won’t render it correctly.
Also, all executive government employees from Presidents to the last retired parasite living the good life via the taxpayers are switched to the healthcare and SS system that’s good enough for the rest of us.
All Federal employees hired since 1984 have been paying into Social Security and Medicare — so has anyone who was elected to Federal office during the same time period.
The new retirement system, known as the Federal Employees Retirement System, replaced the Civil Service Retirement System in 1987. While there are still a few CSRS employees most will retire within the next 10 years.
This information is readily available for research at the Office of Personnel Management website, opm.gov.
And if you think most Federal employees can afford the top of the line plans available in FEHB, I have a bridge to sell you.
The Obamination continues. Too much education. Too impressed by the elite white bankers. Too overwhelmed by CEOs and their yachts.
Will he be the worse President in history? Three wars, cut the safety net, destroy the unions, ruin public education.
Next step is sell the highways to corporations and lower the tax rates for the rich, while eliminating middle class tax deductions.
I am feeling so screwed.
over at at the orange site, they’re proclaiming he is is the BEST OF ALL TIME – BETTER THAN WASHINGTON, LINCOLN, FDR, and the whole lot!
damn that markos mojo – he’s turned the entire crowd into babblin’ keyin’ foooools!
So just what do you have to eat in mass quantities to have all that orange stuff run out your butt?
Why does President Obama keep listening to the lying talking points of the radical extremist so-called republicans and letting himself be corralled by them.
Why doesn’t he just take off the Democrat label and put on the Faux republican label?
I will not vote fro him in the Democrat primaries, and there are many more Progressives that will do the same thing.
The DNC should start looking, and grooming a Democrat that will take the fight to these Fascist republicans rather than caving in to them.
I’m referring to their preferential access to premier healthcare systems due to their “status”. Plus the preferential treatment after their tenure is over; the perk systems put in place specifically for them. Previous presidents, congressmen, vice-presidents just went home after their terms expired without perks. Nowadays they are provided via the taxpayers an endless bounty of freebies not including the corporate/consultant/speaking engagement/library donors revolving door of wealth for undermining the citizens of this country.
The Orange must be a Wall Street Stealth Organization
The Orange will probably received some of OBAMA’s billions
The Orange is like MSNBC, they crave the opportunity to eat at the table of the Devil ie OBAMA “acess baby”
the Orange and Devil Worship have a lot in common! Any Human that worships OBAMA must hate the Human Race.
Obama front organizations New York TImes, MSNBC, the ORANGE, all will receive money from OBAMA.
My African American friend say OBAMA uses the Tom Joyner and the Steve Harvey morning shows to keep his African American base under control.
All of this said,
If people are losing everything they have, they will eventually lose their minds and this is when the trouble begins.
Men Lie
Women Lie
Numbers don’t Lie
If Obama poll numbers are true, we may see the 1st president to poll in the teens, this will be an all time low for the ages.
Someone aught to remind Obama who pays his salary, provides a home for him and his family, pays for his meals, a private plan at his disposal, super duper car, security detail, etc…..Another ingrate that bites the hand that feeds him.
Medicare Spending Slows Sharply; Zeke Emanuel Is Not Surprised
http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2011/08/medicare-spending-slows-sharply-few-seem-to-notice-part-1.html
“Medicare reimbursements are no longer accelerating at a break neck-pace. The new numbers should be factored into any discussion about healthcare spending: From 2000 through 2009, Medicare’s outlays climbed by an average of 9.7 percent a year. By contrast, since the beginning of 2010, Medicare spending has been rising by less than 4 percent a year. On this, both Standard Poor’s Index Committee and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) agree. (S&P tracks healthcare spending with the help of Milliman Inc., an independent actuarial and consulting firm.)
S&P breaks down the spending: over the course of the year, Medicare’s reimbursements to hospitals crept up by only 1 percent, while payments to doctors and other professionals rose by 4.7 percent.
The Congressional Budget Office confirms the trend. In June, CBO ‘s Monthly Budget review showed that over the 12 months ending in May, Medicare spending was growing at an annual rate of 3.8% — down from recent annual increases that ranged from 4.7% in 2010 to 15 percent in 2006…..”
Obama has the figures, yet he has chosen the death march of social safety systems
damn shame. shoulda known it was astroturf. I mean, all the Ordinary Americans brought up oil subsidies. Coincidence? I think not. (Wasserman-Schultz musta won a booby prize for something.)
Well, this should make the Dem base enthusiastic….for a different Dem presidential candidate. Right now, we have Obama as our “condidate.”
He will push the Committee of the Twelve Caesars for “modifications” to SocSec and Medicare — to bring down costs. No details, as usual from this stealth candidiate.
But, has he considered that now is the time to push for the Soylent Green Solution (pun intended)?
Ah, yes, time for Obama’s own Modest Proposal. When Jonathan Swift wrote this, he proposed the Irish eat their children in order to survive. Obama should do the same, but instead have Americans eat their elderly. Time for Soylent Green, folks. Jobs, new protein-based food product, and also do away with our problem of caring and paying for the needs of our seniors….
C’mon, Barry, man up. Face it that your propesed changes to SocSec and M/M will cause unnecessary deaths and much misery. At least let these deaths be put to good use for the protein requirements of our increasingly large numbers of poor and unemployed. Deliver legislation to Congress requiring Soylent Green manufacturing centers and the Obama Self-Selection Intake Centers (OSSIC or just SSIC (pronounced “sick”) if Obama doesn’t want his name on his greatest legacy, where seniors –or anyone, with those under 18 required to supply signed parental permission– can make that last great sacrifice for their compatriots and lay down their lives…for food, some organ harvesting, deficit payments, and, also, a much smaller carbon footprint. Finally, a way for the elderly –and the unwanted, the unemployed, anyone so inclined– to truly contribute to the betterment of the nation and the world!
Get SSIC! Vote for Obama! Go Green–Soylent Green!
RFK1968 said:
Apparently you missed the interviews where Obama stated that he’d gladly become a one-term president if that is what it took to get the job done.
Hint: He meant it. The plutocrats have usurped your power to actually punish politicians by voting against them.
They did this by changing the rules of the game. The premise of our democractic system is that politicians desire to remain in office, in power, more than anything else. And when severe corruption was actually punished on occasion that worked well enough.
But now? You know better, or you should. Our owners, using the immense wealth they have looted from us, can now afford disposable politicians.
After all, the politicians know or learn very quickly that true power no longer lies with the voters… and they know or learn very quickly that it doesn’t lie with the politicians, either. But there’s always that golden parachute waiting for those who toe the line.
Obama has been smart enough to win every major battle he’s waged on behalf of our owners… and so far he’s winning this one too.
Underestimate him and lose.
Obama knows who is supplying the good stuff in his life, and he knows who will keep on supplying the good stuff after he’s out of office… and here’s a hint: it’s not the voters.
We are just made to pay for it by our owners.
oooooh ooooooooh!
They will proclaim that as GOOD over there too!
So much for being the self-proclaimed “reality based” community.
Don’t eat the elderly and poor, USE THEM AS FUEL!
http://www.emptywheel.net/2011/08/18/consensus-that-america-should-be-like-sweden/
Sorry, should have given the link before. Emptywheel put it up at her place, which is where I saw it. It’s well worth the time. The Chicago economist is towards the end of the story. I’m sure you can find it over at the PBS website, but I have to dash, so can’t find the original link for you. Sorry about that!
You miss my point completely . . . Obama has done fine for the overlords, but ya can’t keep the same playah in the game for too long or the masses revolt.
Ergo, Jebbie Boy for ’12. Rotating villains n all that.
It’s simple.
Obama is paid by Wall Street, by Corporations, and by Unfettered Greed.
His “campaign contributions” give a small indication …
But the Big Money comes … later.
Obama, counter to prevalent myth, DOES NOT work for hoi paloi, RPS.
DW
What are all those meetings by groups with innocuous sounding names if not to conspire against the free peoples of the world?
It’s no coincidence that so many are being promised the same slice of one great big austerity pie.
It’s almost as if Obama is goading the working people into doing something physical to which he can then label as violence. Just like Britain did with the yobs. NorthCom standing ready?
Sorry, no desire or time for google and paste . . . it’s not that hard tho . . . ;-)
Thank you, common knowledge doesn’t always need a link.
;-)
Y’all might enjoy one of DDay’s latest, it’s worth the “stroll” over …
“House Democratic Frustrations Boil Over”
;~DW
Choo got THAT right hoss!
*G*
It would transform it into a welfare program. We’re all in or no one is in. Just because it isn’t security for the CURRENTLY rich doesn’t mean they don’t need to participate in the social, you know, WE society.
That’s me saying it nicely. I also have an angry response to that, but will keep to myself.
Aye, forest and the rich SHOULD “participate” at a sereiously “raised” level, methinks … considering how they have plundered so much, not just from SS, but from everything not welded to the “floor”.
(I appreciate your restraint, BTW)
;~DW
Yes, I live in Iowa and will attend the caucuses as a democrat, most likely to make a small ruckus, hand out leaflets about this phony and to caucus with whatever progressive is around to vote for (there usually are some).
Other than that, I will give money and volunteer effort to the progressive 3rd party of my choice in the general election.
way to go, piney. better have your lawyer’s number speed dialed on your cell and magic markered on your arm.
You mean you think Warren Buffet needs SS? Seriously? Why?
Time for O to go!!
The dude has worn out his welcome!
To those of us who refer to 0bama as “the closer,” this was the plan all along. Remember Rove’s prediction all those years ago about a permanent Republican majority? The 1/2 white, really cool, no drama guy with a D after his name was “the one” alright.
Yes, Buffett needs SS… or rather, he needs the SS trust fund for his portfolio.
Which is why Buffett is right up there with Obama promoting unneeded cuts to the safety net while implying the opposite.
Whydo you think the commission will deadlock? It is made up equally of Dems and Repubs and when have the Dems stood firm on something like that? Max Baucus is on the commission! Kerry will fold like a borken lawn chair and Murray, DSCC chairman will not ruffle feathers. The fix is in.
He’s not any kind of Dem. I can vote for. Who elected this guy to CUT SSI and Medicare? Why a Primary challenger hasn’t arose on the left is beyond me. This guy is a disaster.
Because Buffet is an oligarch and part of the real POWER behind Barry.
What’s so ironic about Obama is how he’s turned out to be the anti-FDR in so many ways. One way is that Obama is a class traitor in the opposite way FDR was. He’s betraying all the people that voted for him to make his wealthy backers happy. He’d say its just business folks. FDR did the opposite and was loved by the base for it. This guy is a stealth Retardican a wolf in sheep’s clothing a “Manchurian candidate” placed in our midst by the Intell. state that created this monster and held him in waiting till he was needed. He was sorely needed by them in 2008 wasn’t he? He’s their fake messiah the final crushing of Hope and the message that NO REAL PROGRESSIVE CHANGE is going to be allowed by his operators. Only REACTIONARY CHANGE!
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Still jonesing on your Buffett hard on, I see.
It would means test these programs which would make it much easier to cut them for more and more, like welfare, or unemployment insurance has been neglected chipped away at. Secondly, how many would you really eliminate? Not that many and the tradeoff, as stated would not be a godo thing. they paid into it, they should get something for it whether they neeed it or not. That’s called insurance, not entitlement.
He’s going to crash and burn the party, straight down the ticket.
Exactly what I’ve been saying. There’s no connection between Social Security and the debt we have, except that it would be convenient to loot it.
People won’t be fooled by this clumsy dodge…it’s going to make 2010 look like a picnic for the Democrats.
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He is the New (Space for Rent). FDR was FOR things. He had a New Deal. Obama isn’t about anything. What’s his raison d’etre? He has no platform but doing a little bit of everything the other guy wants. Sheesh Rachel was admiring how many silly little policy intiatives he’s stolen from Republicans. Like patent reform. I mean isn’t everyone on your block just aching for patent reform? FDR had a BIG agenda for the BIG problems confronting the country and the world. Obama has bought the 3rd Way micro policy win yourself a niche voter on patent reform. I have a Senator just like him. She’ll tell me that she wants to mandate lights on plows but she can’t manage to tell me if she gives a damn whether that old farm woman can find a nursing home in her rural community.
The “modest modifications” will equal “murderous modifications” for thousands of Americans who can’t afford to wait until 67 for medicare. They’ll be “catfood modifications” for people who can’t afford to adequately feed themselves afterwards. Modest modifications, my ass.
We need to make sure we tell our politicians that these “modest” changes will happen over our dead bodies. This “firebagger” is ready to flame on. It’s time to start blocking traffic, Tehrir Square style.