The official Congressional Budget Office report on the debt ceiling deal has been release. From the CBO Summary:
- Establish caps on discretionary spending through 2021;
- Allow for certain amounts of additional spending for “program integrity” initiatives aimed at reducing the amount of improper benefit payments;
- Make changes to the Pell Grant and student loan programs;
- Require that the House of Representatives and the Senate vote on a joint resolution proposing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution;
- Establish a procedure to increase the debt limit by $400 billion initially and procedures that would allow the limit to be raised further in two additional steps, for a cumulative increase of between $2.1 trillion and $2.4 trillion;
- Reinstate and modify certain budget process rules;
- Create a Congressional Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction to propose further deficit reduction, with a stated goal of achieving at least $1.5 trillion in budgetary savings over 10 years; and
- Establish automatic procedures for reducing spending by as much as $1.2 trillion if legislation originating with the new joint select committee does not achieve such savings.
If appropriations in the next 10 years are equal to the caps on discretionary spending and the maximum amount of funding is provided for the program integrity initiatives, CBO estimates that the legislation—apart from the provisions related to the joint select committee—would reduce budget deficits by $917 billion between 2012 and 2021. In addition, legislation originating with the joint select committee, or the automatic reductions in spending that would occur in the absence of such legislation, would reduce deficits by at least $1.2 trillion over the 10-year period. Therefore, the deficit reduction stemming from this legislation would total at least $2.1 trillion over the 2012–2021 period.
The important takeaway from the report: if Congress does nothing after passing this deal the CBO projects $2.1 trillion in deficit reduction. If the Super Congress does come up with a deal that can pass, it will produce $2.4 trillion in deficit reduction. The deal is written such that the debt ceiling will only be increased by as much as the deficit reductions that are realized.
There is a chance, if the economy slows, that a $2.1 trillion debt ceiling increase won’t be large enough to take us past the 2012 election. Even if this deal passes, we may see a repeat of this debt ceiling fight right in the middle of the election season.




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Cut the department of war and torture in half and gut the CIA.
galbraith (my bold):
we are governed my idiots, using idiotic measures for their idiotic policies.
just shoot me.
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I didn’t understand this entirely, can someone explain what this means?
Also, I noticed that millitary spending was exempt from the camp. So is all they have to do is increase the millitary budget by the amount that they are planning on cutting and viola! no millitary spending cuts.
TPM
They hire people who tell them what they want to hear. Surprised?
Let me be the first to predict that as long as we keep fighting 2 wars plus Libya, Yemen, Pakistan etc little wars the National debt will never go down.
http://my.firedoglake.com/ubetchaiam/2011/08/01/the-cbo-spills-its-guts/#recommend-78331-6169
“So from 2014 on, the spending cap would apply to everything including SS,Medicare, and Medicaid and other ‘low income programs’.
“The caps would not apply to spending for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and for
similar activities (sometimes referred to as overseas contingency operations) or to certain
amounts of additional spending for “program integrity” initiatives, for which the act
would allow upward adjustments to the caps by specified amounts. In addition, the
legislation provides for adjustments to the caps in each fiscal year to account for funding
designated for emergency requirements and disaster relief. The cap adjustments for
disaster relief would be limited to amounts based on historical averages for such funding.”
So funding for ‘wars’ or ‘similar activities’ are exempted from any spending caps. And if a disaster happens that requires more than ‘historical averages’ ,tough shit.”
Money for wars to kill people, but not for SS/Medicare/Medicaid to help people. Yup, sounds about right for today’s America.
Somebody better tell Barney Frank that.
He seems to think this will somehow end the Iraq war.
From the same TPM article:
Biden sez:
Oh, and the budget. Which the Republicans have to originate in the House. You know, the ones that don’t want any unemployment insurance extensions or jobs programs. The ones who say that spending cuts and tax cuts will create jobs. Yup, that’s the only thing we’ll be talking about.
Yep, jobs. Lost jobs.
Lots of jobs lost. Which will result in lost revenues.
I only got a B+ in economics in college, but, One would think cuts in government spending, significant cuts, would cause a loss of jobs and an increase in unemployment.
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Hmmmmmmmm
..I guess that’s why I an NOT in congress.
Just not smart enough.
But the WH is spinning, falsely, that SocSec and Medicare are off the table completely.
I read a tweet from a columnist on a conf call w/ Valerie Jarrett which quoted her as saying the above; I tweeted back that that wa only true in this debt deal bill, that the SuperCongress and future agreement would in fact be able to cut both.
She responded that Jarrett said there’s a “lot of misinformation out there” about what’s in the bill.
Grrrrrr.
What sort of changes I doubt they are going to help students. If Obama screws college kids there goes the Youth vote.
the (CBO) “do not check to see whether forecasts in one area imply reasonable and plausible outcomes in another. For this reason, much of that work is essentially nonsense.”
That’s more than a little disturbing. I did not know that.
I heard they were gonna give out free I-Pads with all student loan applications……………………………………………………………………………when they are DENIED.
I haven’t researched this, but would like to find out if this is true, that huge amounts of Pell Grant money end up going to for-profit schools like the Univ of Phoenix. If that is true (and I heard from a fairly trustworthy source), then I would be open to ending that, or narrowing it sharply based on actual graduation rates, job-placement rates, etc.
I really believe for-profit colleges are as much a bane of our society as for-profit hospitals. And if we’re not careful, they will replace non-profit educational institutions, as profit-making hospitals replaced the non-profit, charitable ones.
On edit, the above doesn’t necessarily mean I think a lower dollar amount of Pell Grants would be good; a better plan might be to require the recipients to go to real schools, thus transferring that amount of money from (what seems to me to be) bad to good.
Biden sez:
What a fucking idiot.
I heard what you heard and that the for-profit schools like UP get about 40% of that money and their student loan default ratio is 300% other schools.
Nope you just can’t lie like a politician…. Soulless bastards…………..
Yeah, well, he doesn’t get to say anything but what he’s told to say.
Besides, it may be true — we’ll be talking about it this way: “where did all the jobs go? Why are we creating jobs in Guatemala or Bhutan? Why is unemployment even higher than in summer 2011?”
Etc., etc., etc.
And a liar.
I think Biden ius just trying to “bolster” the troops.
Lord know we are gonna need a LOT of bolstering.
Whew. Guess I missed the default rate part.
Reason enough to disqualify them for receipt of Pell Grants or federal loans, either. IMHO.
IMO too! And I’m not being “humble”.
Wow. Twitter is on fire. While I’ve been over here, 87 new tweets. And I only follow 147 people.
There is a large number coming from Syria and Egypt, but most of rest is on this subject we are on.
Yeah, they will do nothing about jobs, but talk.
The conversation about jobs — and that’s all it will be: conversation — will play right into Rs hands. The rate is not coming down, so the more Obama talks about it, the more incompetent he looks.
Plus — and this is very important — the meme that he has fully embraced will be that we haven’t cut enough to restore confidence. But, the more we cut, the more intransigent the unemployment rate. Obama will be in the hole, but compelled to dig deeper and deeper.
“When all is said and done, more is said than done.”
Professor Irwin Corey
(Still alive and kickin’)
They are laying off city and county workers down here in Houston like crazy. Already cut teachers and admin shool personnel.
My fave new twitter hashtag/@name: Satan Sandwich.
Very funny man. Always enjoyed him. That quote is perfect for this farce.
Yup.
The deficit reducers are saying the deal is bunko because the Bush tax cut extension expiration is built into the CBO numbers. What does the super congress get to do?
Or this one:
Bidens needs to Speak with Jeffrey Immelt!
Who is Jeffrey Immelt? He is the Head of Barack Obama highly touted “Jobs Council”
“Immelt took over in 2001, GE has shed 34,000 jobs in the U.S., according to its most recent annual filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. But it’s added 25,000 jobs overseas.”
Link Below
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/ge-ceo-jeffrey-immelt-the-head-of-obamas-jobs-council-is-moving-jobs-and-economic-infrastructure-to-china-at-a-blistering-pace
Jeffrey Immelt company pays no USA taxes
Jeffrey Immelt loves Chinese workers more than USA workers
Jeffrey Immelt company also owns part of that so call Liberal news network MSNBC
Ed needs to tell his boss Jeffrey to stop sending USA jobs to China
“Is old ED a comedian, Ed Boss must laugh Ed’s new commercial, about how we need to keep USA Jobs”
Yes! Jeffrey Immelt will probably be at OBAMA birthday party!
Grand Ma use to say, people can tell a lot about you by looking at your friends.
Does anyone still think OBAMA has 1 good bone in his body? Anyone?
The Devil in the WH that is OBAMA, makes the tea party look like a youth football team.
That is what economists predict. This is going to lose lots of jobs and the GDP growth expected for next quarter has already been adjusted downward in advance of this bill knowing full well what is going to take place.
Truly horrible.
Here too, work for a school district that was in very good shape financially. This is going to hurt students now. We have cut until there is nothing left. Now it’s going to be 60 kids in a class and fewer days. But then again, the cons don’t want an educated public. They need more votes.
Again from TPM:
Yes. What a mess.
Those are my two favorite quotations. If I may, a Yogi Berra quote that seems apropriate:
“We’re making too many wrong mistakes.”
They laid off a couple friends of mine who were school counselors.
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Kids got a problem???…….Man up, dude.
Tough when you’re just 13.
“Even if this deal passes, we may see a repeat of this debt ceiling fight right in the middle of the election season.”
Does anyone think that we won’t have another politicalapalooza in 2012? Each side of the Beltway will line up and someone will scream “Food Fight”, and the Beltway Botox Brigade will start licking their chops looking for ratings. The Puntwits will twit, and the airwaves will be full of fools.
Meanwhile, the middle class will continue along the road of destruction while the oligarchs rack up record profits and take their tax breaks, loopholes and giveaways to open up in China.
Washington is in gridlock because they have no idea how to govern.
I think the mechanism built into the deal stating that in case congress rejects Catfood II, that “sequester would be divided equally between defense and non-defense program, and it would exempt Social Security, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, programs for low-income families, and civilian and military retirement” is the “tell” in this deal. There is no way on earth that a majority in congress would vote to cut defense spending by half. Republicans wouldn’t want to, and Democrats would be scared of being called weak on defense. That means that whatever Catfood II recommends will become law. Given the nature of the men that Obama appointed to Catfood I, I think it is almost certain that major cuts to Social Security and Medicare, beyond the 6% and 12% numbers floated recently, will become law. Just ask yourself — do you think Obama would appoint a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus to Catfood II? No, we’ll get a committee of supply siders.
Didn’t this fucking fool say not too long ago that jobs are not ever coming back once they get sent overseas.