I have, and always have had, tremendous respect for Cenk Uygur. His contract with his audience is that he will never put himself in a position where he cannot say what he really thinks. And in turning down MSNBC’s offer to host a weekend show so he could give his audience a fair appraisal of what happened, he honors that contract.
My experiences on MSNBC have always been positive, even when I have disagreed with the host. But there will be an enormous amount of money coming down the political pipeline in the next year and a half, controlled by the DNC. Moreover, they control access to the guests and the scoops that the cable network needs to do business. That puts a lot of pressure on management to cater to their messaging interests, whether they respond to them or not.
I have no idea if the decision to cut Cenk and go with people like Ezra Klein is a reflection of that dynamic, but it certainly exists. What I do know is that when Ed Shultz took a live poll as to whether his viewers would vote for someone who voted to cut Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid benefits, 94% said no:
When 82% of Republicans do not want Social Security benefits cut, it’s hardly surprising that the MSNBC audience would have this response.
Cenk Uygur’s message is perfectly in line with those results. Ezra “Gang of 6 deal is the best we can do” Klein’s is not. It will be interesting to see how MSNBC walks the line between maintaining a working relationship with the Democratic party, which Barack Obama unquestionably heads, and keeping the faith of the viewers who have diametrically opposing objectives in the looming debate about the future of the social safety net.
Cenk Uygur has tremendous integrity and he will continue to be an important voice in American politics. You can say thanks to Cenk and show your appreciation for all he does by hitting the “subscribe” button on the Young Turks Youtube channel.





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Yeah…
Reminds me that 25 years ago the union bureaucrats tried to co-opt me into the leadership of the union, if only I would be reasonable, make me a respectable member of the executive committee. I knew what the deal was then, and I know what the deal is now.
Good for Cenk, a man with integrity. Rare these days. Thanks for the excellent post.
Is it okay if I just keep subscribing to the podcast?
Sure. But boosting his subscriber numbers is a good sign of support, regardless.
Cenk got on the black list when he did that piece “Is Barack Obama stupid” last December when Obama extended tax cuts for the rich.
A very valuable look, indeed, behind the scenes of a powerful national broadcast-media corporation.
Thank you, Cenk, for the personal financial sacrifice you made (twice your current pay) to provide proof to the public of a major problem in this self-governing nation, which exists in name only without an informed citizenry and a meaningful ability to remove federal incumbents from office.
As Jane describes it, we see laid bare here how our corrupt federal campaign-financing system provides a major financial incentive for the American media to ignore and obscure the separation of powers in our federal government – helping to dangerously drain power from the Legislative Branch (whose 535 members focus mostly on local media expenditures) while increasing the power of the Executive Branch (whose two elected offices generate much or most of the national campaign money flowing to the media). Which mimics the current financial incentives for Members of Congress to kowtow to the President – the one with all the money and the media-pedestal-placement for raising more – when of the same Party, thus likewise leading them to ignore the separation of powers, which they, however, unlike the media, swore an oath to honor and uphold.
We either remove these unhealthy, dangerous incentives upending the federal balance of power, and reform our campaign-financing system for federal office, or we’ll continue to suffer the consequences.
Consequences like those presently being generated behind the scenes by members of the Gang of Six, particularly by its apparent ringleader, Dick Durbin:
Gang members Mark Warner, Saxby Chambliss, and Mike Crapo have been conspicuously silent about their backroom dealings on the public Senate floor. Dick Durbin, on the other hand, has been busily playing both sides against the middle – slavishly doing Obama’s backroom bidding on the budget/debt, keeping Obama privately informed (I assume) of the on-again, off-again private Gang of Six talks, being heavily involved personally in both backroom Gang of Six and backroom White House talks, and also regularly taking to the Senate floor to speak/spin at length on the issue, in public. Four of the six gang members – Durbin, Crapo, Tom Coburn (who’s spoken on the floor a fair bit about the debt, but less than Durbin), and Kent Conrad (who spoke on the floor recently only to summarize at length the finished budget draft that Conrad refuses to submit to the Budget Committee he chairs) – were of course also part of the President’s backroom Catfood Commission last year, by appointment of Reid and McConnell. [Note that neither Conrad nor Coburn are running for re-election to the Senate.]
Here’s how that Gang of Six/Catfood Commission ringleader – the Assistant Majority Leader of the Senate, who’s undoubtedly working in close consultation with the President, in the role that Max Baucus played during the backroom health-care dealmaking – is framing their proposed chained-COLA cuts to Social Security, as of Tuesday, July 19, 2011:
I think those comments Tuesday make it pretty clear whose ideas the still-evolving, backroom “Gang of Six” plan is designed to implement.
[By the way, Tom Coburn is now scheduled to be on C-SPAN's Washington Journal tomorrow, Friday (7/22), at 7:45 a.m. (apparently rescheduled from this morning), when callers who get through will be able to directly ask him a question about his positions (which are, I think it's safe to say, very sincerely held and well researched, with regard to federal 'waste, fraud, and abuse' - about which Coburn's speaking right now on the Senate floor).]
do miss that sucker…he hasn’t been on in weeks…thought he went on holiday…but now know better – thank you…wish him well…but reading through this is the first time i’ve seen in words what i know has been happening…the co-opting of every news whatever to preach the gospel according to who pays their bills and salaries and fun perks…i’ve had it…saw your face when mr. ed show backed off, side-stepped, baby-hopped social security…no one has any balls or ovaries to stand up, say it and hang on to it permanent…there was once a presidential candidate who said he would risk a second term by standing up and doing what he believed…and i believed him…my responsibility…i just love the passionate words about the injustice of putting the burden on seniors, the disabled, veterans while the rich top off their gas tanks each morning…the passionate words about health care for all, you can ask and tell and now protecting, preserving, battling, never give in for social security, etc…and the talking faces who will sell us the new passion of it’s okay, look what we all got and we saved the unionless nation for the rich…it’s like that morning joe show…everyone connected…who they know, who their daddy is…so elite…so more than just ‘above’ the rest of us…but they know us and feel our discomfort…and love the ad photos of joe and daddy got me my jobs and i write books to benefit women and watch me act like the perfect, know my place, girly sidekick to that oh! so strong man (who is a fool squared)…and the photos: did not know they were once beatles…jfg…
Cenk’s speech above is a must-watch.
The thing about him that sets him apart from other MSNBC hosts is that he’s a true populist. O’Donnell claims he’s a socialist but you’d never know it from his show. Rachel very clearly represents the upper middle class liberal that’s been around forever and no one’s really afraid of. Ed is somewhat closer to Cenk in politics but crazy and has limited appeal to the crucial younger audience.
In short Cenk was a threat to the Washington establishment. Therefore he had to go.
Cenk has a lot of integrity. I wish he’d run for office.
I would support that!
He would be a good congressman but he might be more effective standing outside and throwing bombs.
He does have integrity and lots of it.
News flash: they already did.
Ooooooops.
No more calls, folks, we have a winnah!
Is Ezra Klein getting Cenk’s spot? Yikes! If so, the only reason to ever watch MSNBC is when Jane shows up on a guest slot.
Well, waiting for a Eugene McCarthy has been like waiting for Gidot. After all, what we need most is a messenger candidate and a populist is perfect for that. He doesn’t have to win, he just has to pull back the curtain on the Grand Con.
Yes, right after Hardball. It’ll be called Sleazeball.
I know that this article is about Cenk, but I just have to say how much Ezra Kline annoys me. Ever since the health care bill, I would give a lot to have the chance to slap that smug grin off his face. Okay, I’m not a violent person. So I probably wouldn’t actually slap him, but the desire is SO strong. Almost overwhelming at times. Night after night, he’d sit.. so smug ….. and gleefully lecture the liberals about how Democrats were helpless in the face of Republican obstruction. How there was nothing anyone could do. The minority controlled everything, and we had to give in to their demands.
And that SOB enjoyed every minute of it!!!!! As my hopes and dreams of a strong Democratic President began to die and reality of what I had actually voted for sank in, that SOB gleelfully explained that I and other Democrats like me were helpless.
Cenk’s had some moments in his time where he leaned a bit close to The Veal Pen . . . I was hard on him a few times in here, too.
But yeah, all in all, the best the MSM has had so far . . . a shame he’s not on MSNBC, but hey, neither is Olbie.
I look forward to more Cenk and more Young Turks . . .
Bmull @7, you just nailed that comment start to finish.
That was some FINE commentary.
N of course, thanks Mz. Hamsher for your thoughts and perspectives about it all . . . nothing like good inside info from the pro’s to learn what it’s all REALLY about . . , despite our years of deeply held suspicions . . . ;-)
“Bleating From The Pen” is a working title I hear . . . ;-)
Ezra Klein is an over-educated idiot IMHO. It would make perfect sense if he got Cenk’s spot.
The first thing you do is take back your vote. Who knows better than us that the Republicans are lunatics but who knows any but O-bots who are happy with Democrats. People like this chaos? People like the un-jobs President? People like the N number of wars, I mean who has a clue how many we’re fighting?
I predict people will stay home in 2012. When people stay home Republicans usually win.
So if they tell you you are helpless just tell them, “yes, I’m so helpless I don’t think I can find my way to the polls”.
Personally, after they booted Ed to the late night pastures I was kind of surprised they even put Cenk on. That he last more then 6 mos. was a surprise. The Corp. bosses who are stuck having broadcast guys like Cenk ( who they despise) must hate every sec. of their own product. Greedy hypocrites the bunch.
Please tell me that neither Al Sharpton nor Ezra Clueless are getting their own shows. Please, please, please?
*heh* One reason why I subscribed to RT’s youtube feed…
Cenk Uygur leaving MSNBC. Is free press fading?
Btw, I just subscribed to Cenk’s TYT…! ;-)
Quick survey: Rank the following as Worst, Worser, and Worstest:
Ezra Klein
Jonathan Alter
Richard Wolffe
Rev. Sharpton’s the man of the hour for now…! 8-(
As much as Cenk should be applauded here, the reality is, for the most part his show pushed the dem vs repubs false paradigm. The fact that he was considered to anti establishment speaks volumes. MSM as we all know is nothing but a tool. That is why politicians don’t sweat it too much.
Alter, Wolffe, and, then Klein…! Alter is most def the worst of the three…!
Cenk will be missed. I love his integrity and commitment to honest, no matter what the price.
Ezra Klein is disgusting. You can not call yourself a liberal, and then support cutting social security or not having a public option. People like Ezra make the Democratic Party vile.
Ha. yeah.
There are rocks with vacancy signs next to them.
I don’t spend all day on the tubes, but things trickle into my head.
Sheesh.
You have them in reverse order. IMHO.
(and misspelled worster :-)
x2
“It will be interesting to see how MSNBC walks the line…………..”
MSNBC is a propagandist for Imperial Washington. As such it is part of the machinery that oppresses the people. Otherwise it is and increasingly will be irrelevant.
Cenk has distinguished himself by his decision not to take money from corporate dirt bags. Cenk remains relevant and I will subscribe to his feed as Jane (who also remains relavant) suggests.
aside from the fact I think Cent does a great job and does not pander to the Dems he has 3 other things going for him: He is from NJ, he hates Chris Cristie and he looks like could be a “bearman” himself! We NJ big guys who can’t stand Cristie must stick together! I will subsrcibe
Cenk’s earned a spot on The Dissenter if you ask me. :)
Jane…thanks for the coverage. The oligarchy squeezing out people who display the issues without spin. 1984 becomes closer daily and at warp speed.
For profit news always becomes for profit narrative. MSNBC wanted a veal pen denizen and so they got one of the newest members. I’m sure both MSNBC and the DNC are hoping that Ezra will still have some credibility among progressives but it’s a fool’s hope. Just like Schultz did with you Jane, they all are too invested in drawing parallels between the teabaggers and the firebaggers to realize that we are as different as it’s possible to be and still be in the same country. I stopped watching MSNBC except for the odd video posted here or elsewhere. Who needs the aggravation? Good luck to Cenk in the future. Unlike Schultz, he has truly completed the hero’s journey.
I don’t know if it’s financially bad news for Cenk Uygur; it it is, I’m sorry for that.
I found the format, still titled MSNBC Live, at 6 p.m. ET limiting and not serving of the skills of Uyguy.
My feeling is that it would be great if Cenk broadcast one hour of The Young Turks, at 9 p.m. ET (recording in its locale, Los Angeles, Calif., at 6 p.m. MT), on Current TV. Use the same type of format Thom Hartmann uses — his show airs a couple hours from his radio program on Free Speech TV.
Cenk needs to make this into a docudrama, maybe even a sitcom. This is so classic as Griffin says to Cenk, “People in Washington do not like your tone.” Scary music in the background…Charlie Sheen should portray Griffin.
And we have seen this movie before.
If Diogenes were to return today and was looking for one honest man in the corporate media he would find one in Cenk Uygur.
I still recall the first time I heard a Cenk rant on Sirius radio. The skies opened and hornets blew–unbelievable. Other hosts seem to tippy toe around when conducting interviews, but Cenk instantly clubs them over the head with their ridiculous ideas. I plan to send a note of displeasure (I know that sounds weak) to MSNBC for their treatment of one of the finest political interviewer and analyst they could hope to acquire. Act more like a Senator? Really?
It’s very nice and a bit shocking that not everyone is for sale in today’s politics.
Cenk is on Keith’s show RIGHT NOW…
Good luck Cenk, subscribed!
This is really a pretty major story. Now you know why they’ll never get rid of Maddow, she doesn’t really challenge anyone. Mokey Steele is a regular on her show now for God’s sake. Network news is officially now a joke.
Integrity is so rare in today’s corporate media. Edward R. Murrow would weep.
must be seat warming for numbnutz Timeh jr.
MSNBC, the Establishment and not Cool.
Well, apparently I can’t show my support to Cenk. :( I tried and all seemed well until I hit the page said I needed a google account. So I went to google to sign up for an account, and they said that I already had one under my email address. BUT when I tried to reset the account (Since i didn’t know it existed, I haven’t a clue what the password would be.), and THEN google says that they don’t have a record of my email address. Can’t create an account because I already have one. Can’t reset the account I didn’t know that I had because it doesn’t exist. OY!
So then I tried signing in using an old yahoo address. Didn’t want to do that because I’ll never receive the notifications, but hey…… it was a sign of support. And this time, I successfully created a google account. Went back to YouTube to again subscribe, got to the screen where they want me to sign into my google account………. and it won’t take my password.
That just sucks because I like the Young Turks and would have enjoyed seeing them again.
Cronkite too
I hear more and more people wishing, hoping, pleading that Bernie Sanders run. “Progressive” radio call shows like Hartmann, Schultz, Press have callers everyday imploring that Bernie run.
It’s a draw for the Worstest.
I’m having the same problem.
I consider her totally irrelevant. Sad. Very talented.
I consider her totally irrelevant. Sad. Very talented.
(Sorry for double post)
nm, I found out.
COMFORT THE AFFLICTED…AFFLICT THE COMFORTABLE!!…fukyea
“We’re [MSNBC] the establishment.”
Barack Obama is (represents) the establishment.
As good as Maddow, Schultz, and O’Donnell are, they are not to go as far as calling out the President as a ConservaDem or (as his actions have shown) a corporatist, neoliberal, and neocon with a more liberal view on personal social policy.
Cenk, KUDOS for your integrity – i hope Current tv picks you up, also. I’ll be watching you on TYT, but no, Obama wasn’t stupid when he didn’t favor rescinding the Bush tax cuts; he was quite deliberate imo.
“The point of the show is truth telling”.
It’s the first I’ve seen Cenk unless I’ve caught him in a clip with Jane here.
Jane, Sweetheart, be a dear and share with us what it’s like to look unblinking into a TV camera lens without getting any human feedback while making it look, feel, and sound like you’re really talking to a person who’s present right in front of you.
Heh, I tried to click on TYT home page, got “service not available.”
The video keeps stopping and starting again almost like I’m on dial up instead of high speed internet.
Not saying anything, just sayin…
But it does bring up a question.
WTF are we going to do when powers like Comcast and all the other ISP’s out there start getting serious about throttling down actual progressive content???
I don’t see how one can see what happened to Cenk and NOT realize that’s exactly what’s coming to the toobz too. Made possible, of course, by Obama. How one can still be an Obama supporter is something else I can’t understand either, but that’s another story I suppose.
Agreed, you can turn the show off after the first 20 minutes unless you care about everything but politics. I remember the days(last year) When you had one hour packed full of info and important stories you would have never heard anywhere else.
Then again maybe this is who she has been and we never really new what she was about since Obama just got elected and she did not have to go against the party.
this is a trick question as it is a tie…they all suck! Let’s throw Dave Weigel in this group…he is always smirking and he does not appear to be paying attention to what is going on around him…I once saw Chris Matthews chew him out on his show for laughing during an interview..stick Matt Miller in there too
Folks,please these so called progressives(Maddow,Shultz etc,etc) work for a Mega Corporation,a war profiteering NetWK.
They are on the TV representing their employer,a Mega Corporation so lets not for 1 minute think that cuz they call ‘emselves progressives they are on TV to represent you & I.
They are “Corporate progressives”…Please for Chrissakes! do not support the crap they churn out with your viewership.They have sold their soul & dignity for a paycheck.
Kudos to Cenk for having the courage & integrity to not sell his soul for a buck.Now that’s a progressive.
Thanks Cenk,
I really respected your show. You did not put up with their b.s. talking points. Corporations pay the adds and run our country. Cannot believe msnbc hasn’t fired Dylan Ratigan also.
We need someone to start a Third Party to counter the two Republican parties that are raping and destroying the bottom 95% of America.
Well said. I couldn’t agree more.
I am going to miss Cenk. I watched him and Rachel and dropped the rest of the line up from my viewing. I would like to see Ron Reagan get a shot at this hour. He is fast, articulate, combative when needed, and the fact that he the liberal son of St. Ronnie just annoys the h**l out of a lot of the GOP.
Ezra Klein is not over-educated. He is–and I am speaking quite literally–incredibly under-educated. History is complex. Our world is complex. Ezra Klein is a water boy who understands less than nothing.
She’s playing ball. I agree it is sad, it doesn’t effect change. It all comes off as complaining entertainment. When she started having Steele on as a regular commentator a red flag went up. Same thing with Olbeermann, he always leaves me thinking ‘nice speech, but who exactly are you again, and why should I care? Sports guy, right?”
I thought Al Sharpton was getting it.
I’d like to see Young Turks on Current TV, not another different show for Cenk but actually Young Turks just put on Current TV.
I loved Ron’s show on the radio when I could hear it before it was no longer there anymore. Ron gave some great little editorials.
Jane, I’d love it if you had a show on Current TV. But then I’m biased because ::whispering:: I have a crush on you.
Regardless of whom MSNBC put on TV…..It’s not going to be someone who will be permitted to advocate for ordinary Americans.They will have to distract with the DEMS vs GOP drama.
TV-NTWKS are owned by Corporations who don’t want to pay taxes but instead have you & I foot the bill.And so anyone going to work for a Fat paycheck is going to do what MSNBC(TV-NTWK) wants.And what TV-NTWKS want is not what you & I want.
Remember they are the “establishment”, you & I are not …well maybe you are but I am certainly not & could never be.
Amen. If Obama and the Dims are selling us out, and letting the American People go down without a fight, while proudly displaying all the delicate moral rectitude of Pit Vipers, I say we take them down with us. Sometimes it makes you wish there really is a hell, just for the chance to shovel hot coals over these assclown’s heads for the rest of time.
We don’t need no water. Let the motherfuckers burn.
I will not be watching in that time slot anymore, Thanks Cenk…I will be looking for you when you are offed a show on another network.
1) Alter
2) Wolffe
3) Klein
Current just cleared space on the schedule- TYT weeknights at 7?
Don’t do that. Don’t let them steal your power. Go to the ballot box and write someone in. They want you to think you only have two bad choices. Only 2 states have laws though that preclude write ins.
If there is no primary challenger to Barack Obama or decent Indy choice then I will write in Bernie Sanders.
If we could get a coordinated campaign going we might even be able to send them the message that we are not going to settle for bad and worse.
It’s been a joke for awhile. Where you been?
I took a pledge to watch tv for entertainment only. I read my news online from varied indy sources as well as the tradional stuff.
Hopefully he’ll have a page with transcripts.
Cenk is offered more money to do less and STFU. The “Iron Fist of Oceania”, as Chris Hedges puts it, draws nigh. And all this Jesus bullshit overtaking any reasonable discussion just silences me. The Grand Globalization marches on. Fuck.
I am late to the post here…
I would like to see Cenk start a gathering in the Mall to protect SS and Medicaid and call it:
“You Just Don Not Cut It, Leadership!”
The title would serve the dual purpose of letting our leaders know that they are failing and serve to rally protection of SS and Medicaid & Medicare.