In the beginning, the idea that any political party would actively hold the debt ceiling hostage to reduce the deficit was considered absurd. Mainly because all the top politicians have admitted they don’t want the country to default and that actually forcing a default would have the exact opposite affect of sending Treasury bond rates up, making the deficit problem dramatically worse. Only a year ago, the idea the debt ceiling must be raised was not just the broad centrist position, and it has been the common sense position for decades.
Instead of holding a firm line and pointing out that Republicans were flirting with incoherent madness related to the debt ceiling, Democrats ,lead by President Obama, choose to feed the Republican deficit hysteria by actively refusing to take a stand. This moved the debate radically to the right. It made it acceptable to hold America credit worthiness hostage to demand deficit reductions despite massive unemployment.
The debate was again moved significantly to the right when President Obama came out with his own deficit plan. First, it helped feed the silly idea that deficit reduction is critical right moment. Second, Obama’s “balanced” package contained two part cuts for every one part of new revenue. Having the top Democrat say any deficit package should contain significantly more cuts than new taxes, instead of, say, a 50-50 mix, moved the debate to the right some more.
Things moved from bad to worse when negotiations, lead by Vice President Joe Biden, got started. Democrats took increasing taxes off the table because the idea was anti-tax Republicans would be more willing to agree to closing tax loopholes. Accepting that any deal must bend to the Republicans no-new-tax framework pulled the debate even farther to the right.
This got worse when Eric Cantor (R-VA) walked out of the negotiations and Republicans declared that even closing tax loopholes as part of a bipartisan deal violated Republican principles. A smart political move by the GOP that has made the debate between a package of only very large cuts or a package of very large cuts plus a small handful of tax loophole fixes.
President Obama could have used Cantor’s walkout to pull the debate back to the original center, stating we don’t play unnecessary games with our credit worthiness. He could have pointed to it as proof of the Republicans lack of good faith and used it to justify ignoring the debt ceiling on Constitutional grounds.
Instead of taking a firm stand after Republicans demanded Democrats give up on any new revenue as part of deal, President Obama choose to become directly part of the negotiations. This show of weakness has provided an implied willingness to accept the Republicans newest demands.
Over the past few months the political discourse in Washington has been pulled rightward at a mind-boggling pace. Given how narrow and bizarrely focused the debt ceiling debate has become, regardless what the final package contains, it is assured to be a massive victory for the right.





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The lesson to be learned is that the only way to head the Ds back in the
rightleftward direction is to primary, primary, primary. We don’t need many successes, if any. We just need to make DINOs realize that they can lose in the primary if they aren’t far enough to the left. Look at the fear ofGodKoch that NY-23 put into the Republicans.What hasn’t been a massive victory for the right under this President?
Via Digby: @SenatorReid: Cutting debt is equally important to job creation
We are ruled by fools.
Obama has determined that he doesn’t need classic ‘democratic’ votes to win the next election. He is appealing to the old Eisenhower Republican vote that dominates the suburbs. That plus the residual democrats and the odds of the Republicans nominating someone from the far right makes him a shoe-in. His acceptance of the classic Republican argument is doing more damage to the economy than Bush’s perversity ever did, and will have a much longer effect as the depression drags on. At some point ordinary people are going to wake up and realize that he really doesn’t care about them. Fool me once …
Jon –
Maybe you wanna look at that statement again? Weakness? How about his determination to accept — not acceptance (sic) — because their demands are his goals?
This is how history will remember the Obama administration.
Bingo!
Really, if instead you look at the Democratic position as actually wanting the same thing as republicans, but they don’t want to lose your support by coming right out and saying that, then it all makes sense.
By showing a little bit of resistance, then ultimately caving, they get their cake and eat it too. Democrats continue to vote for them, and they still get the republican policies they want.
This drift to the right has happened because of Obama and it must make him very happy. When it moves a little more right it will be time for him to cave to McConnell and Boner, again.
Cuts coming for SS and Medicare, and Medicaid for the old. Replace the elderly population with immigrants, who work under the table for cheap for big companies and rich folks who need nannies.
Funny no mention of cutting the debt by ending both wars and cutting military spending to twice what China spends instead O and the GOP want to cut Medicare and SS despite what the majority of voters want.
This is democracy where Everyone must engage in Shared Sacrifice? and Tough Choices?
Government by the rich for the rich.
Profiles in
CourageCowardice. ‘Nuff said.I’d like your opinion
Is conservatism a
1) Mental Illness
2) Learning Impairment
3) Mental Disability
4) A Temporary Insane Delusion
McConnell and Boehner and the other thugs have absolute contempt for Obama because they know they can push him around at will. Obama is an enabler with these assholes. He has never once figuratively grabbed the GOP by the balls and said, “Look, enough of this shit. This is what’s going happen.”
Instead, he acts like some Uncle Tom house-boy to these lunatics. “Yassuh, Mista McConnel. Right away, whatever you want.”
It’s either that or he’s a closet Republican.
5) All of the above.
Here’s a secret – the Democrats are the ones holding the debt ceiling hostage just they’re using Republicans for cover. The Democrats could have taken care of this back when they had a veto-proof majority, but instead they pretend like they’re really bad negotiators and are being bullied in order to provide plausible deniability.
The “Great Capitulator?” WTF!
What makes you and whattheincorporated think it’s temporary. If I believed that, I’d have a ray of hope. Please pass on the good news.
Even if you can’t stop it, do not vote for it. It begins with the courage to just say no, not one step farther, draw your line in the sand.
No, this goes way beyond fools…evil would be the word I’d choose.
It’s temporary only in the sense that whatever batshit crazy bilge a conservative is spouting at any particular moment in time is soon topically replaced by some other batshit crazy delusion.
Each delusion is temporary until it is replaced with another delusion.
Par for the course for Capitol Hill Democrats.
I knew there was a catch! Hang tough.
I grew out of the ayn rand twilight world after high school when I saw the real world
All of the ron paul supporters that say they’re libertarians and love ron paul so they HAVE to hate regulations will ditch that position when they move out of mommies basement and have to live in “The Real World”
They got into paul because of his pro weed stance, but then they get dragged into the scummy underbelly of libertarian “thought”
They get indoctrinated on hayyek, chicago school and all of the other libertard nonsense
When they see how the REAL WORLD works they’ll ditch the childish fantasy
I get what you’re saying. But I know one Eisenhower Republican who’s been so turned off by the hyperspace-like shift into the abyss by the Republicans, that he re-registered, not as a Democrat, but a Green. Because the Democrats are only one step behind the Republicans in taking us over the cliff
For some perspective, this is a guy who’s not a DFH – not even close. He worked for Boeing, in Silicon Valley, and for the US Treasury Dept.
Jon: I’m so glad to see that someone is blogging about this problem with rightward shift in our supposedly Democratic President! I’ve been saying for months that the absolultely wrong thing to do is to buy the Republicans’ crap about needing to do something now about the deficit, when what we need now is real stimulus to create jobs (not the half-a–d stimulus that President Obama passed, again moving into the Republican’s camp by giving into their demands for more tax cuts instead of infrastructure!)
I now know some folks like that, too. I think what you’re talking about are the “old school” traditional, truly fiscal conservatives, who also had *some* social conservative notions.
These days, the nutbar fringe has moved so far into fascistic tendencies that to even call them, or for that matter, Obama, “Republicans” is false and complete disservice to the “old school” Republican party. I can flatly state that this is NOT what my parents (may they RIP) considered “Republican.”
It’s like lemmings going over a cliff anymore.
*Some* fiscal/social conservatives are beginning to catch on and catch up. *Some* caught on during the W Admin and re-registerd as “Democrats” and voted for Obama, “hoping” for a change from this nutbar lunacy and income redistribution from the middle/working classes to the upper 1%.
Now, thanks to the current crop of corporate Whore “Democrats,” those of us who are even marginally aware have to revoke our “Democratic” party affiliation and go elsewhere… either as Independents or Greens.
Unsurprising. I’m seeing more of it amongst *some* of my friends and acquaintances, I’m happy to say (albeit, not enough).
Absolutely none of this makes any sense anymore, frankly.
The Trojan Mouse wants a “bipartisan” agreement. It’s only logical in his world things have to move to the right.
Primary the fraud in the WH!!! If not the Democratic Party is dead.
Heads on pikes will solve that problem.
Ditto!
What goes around comes around.
http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-is-firing-employees-in-the-us-so-it-can-hire-1000-in-singapore-2011-6
Only a matter of time.
I think the Party is already dead…almost all it’s policies enacted are old GOP policies…
Yes
A bit OT…After criticizing Obama on Face Book today I was called a “Firebagger!” I will wear that proudly!
Better a Firebagger than an Obamasucker.
Answer: 5) Elightened realization that we cannot continue to spend our way into economic growth, regardless of what Paulie K says.
Just because you can call something enlightened doesn’t mean that it’s an “enlightened” thought
The environment won’t survive if we keep our libertarian free market regulation of the oil gas and coal industries
And yes our energy industries are laissez faire
They have regulations that are enforced by libertarian assholes that refuse to do their job and close down death traps like the deepwater horizon right
If we let you monkies run the country then the libertarded will destroy the environment, legalize fraud and institutionalize the pyramid scheme
Maybe his adoption of Republican positions is intentional.
Or maybe the GOP is the Foghorn Leghorn to Obama’s guard dog in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5uHbGiZE4
Beachpopulist @ 5 summed it up better than anyone.It’s not Obama’s weakness,capitulation to the right permits him to achieve his rep goals and satisfy his Wall St. paymasters.
bB
Did you expect anything different?
This is as repetitive as a game of peek-a-boo, but evil and I ain’t laughing.
gee do you really Obama will stand up? Yes he will stand up…for the rich and powerful…remember he stopped off on Wall st the other day for some cash! Got to deliver for those with the doe ray me! god bless Bernie Sanders and I wish we had more like him but Obama is such a douche that I have no doubt he will cut.,,I mean the country hates the GOP; does not want to see cuts in medicare medicaid and SS you would think this is a no brainer! Recall back in Dec the samething about the Bush tax cuts and what did President O Foldo do? Fuck us over in favor of the rich
the only thing worse than Obama’s rightward move, is news pundits like Jonathan alter and E. Kline defending him……