Given the incredible structural similarity between the Massachusetts health care reform law signed by Mitt Romney and the new national Affordable Care Act signed by President Obama, the release of the annual physician workforce survey (PDF) from the Massachusetts Medical Society has generated a lot of attention. But I would caution everyone involved that on issues like the impact ACA will have on ER use or physician availability, what has happened in Massachusetts might be a very poor guide to predict what will happen nationally.
Many conservative writers, like Philip Klein and the WSJ editorial board, are using the report’s finding of longer appointment wait times, increased ER usage, and doctors accepting few new patients as proof that Romneycare failed. and so Obamacare will fail.
In the law’s defense, Jonathan Cohn makes a very strong case that some of the bad news is just statistical noise or the continuing of trends that existed long before the reform and not really affected by it.
Elsewhere, it appears that primary care physicians (although not specialists) are becoming less likely to see new patients. And that’s certainly worrisome. But that decay was also underway before the Massachusetts reforms: It doesn’t appear to have accelerated starting in 2007. The Journal and others also point to a 2010 study on rising emergency room usage between 2004 and 2008. But, again, the rate of increase didn’t change after reform: It was going up before the coverage expansion took place. In fact, the most detailed study of ER usage in Massachusetts I’ve seen comes from Sarah Miller, a graduate student at the University of Illinois. It suggests that reform’s direct effect was to reduce utilization, albeit very slightly.
Massachusetts before reform isn’t like the rest of America now
Before its reform, Massachusetts had one of the highest insurance rates in the country. It also already had a relatively very generous health insurance safety net that covered many of the most in need. Many of the newly covered were the relatively healthy and young. Depending on your source, US Census or Mass. DHCFP (PDF), and the numbers used, reform only resulted in roughly five percent more of the population getting coverage over several years.
The conservative argument is that this at most five-percent (and probably much less based on who the new insured are) increase in demand spread over several years is the cause of some major problem in the medical care supply is very weak at best, as pointed out by Cohn.
On the other hand, what will happen nationally thanks to ACA will be significantly larger than the very small increase that happened in Massachusetts. The CMS (PDF) predicts ACA will result in 10 percent of the country gaining coverage, a 12-percent increase in the number of people with insurance. In some states, that increase will be significantly higher and those people gaining insurance will be sicker and poorer than the people who gained coverage in Massachusetts.
The impact on ER visits, costs and waiting times for appointment caused by a five percent more of fairly healthy people in Massachusetts getting insurance could be a really poor predictor of what happens when a similar program causes a 15-percent jump in those with insurance in a state like Mississippi.





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No, that says that Obamacare/Romneycare isn’t effective. The whole idea of reform is to change the trends…you’re supposed to be reforming them! Saying coverage expansion didn’t stop the ER visits – a major selling point of Obamacare – is proof of failure, not an excuse. Clearly coverage doesn’t equal care as had been said many times on FDL since the HCR debate began.
USA Today had this article today about $49B being owed to hospitals by uninsured.
The number of new people covered under romneycare probably only accounted for about 2-3% of all ER visits. We are talking about an amount so small even if the reform reduced their ER use by 50% it would be almost impossible to find the effect in the over ER usage
You beat me to it! I saw that one as well.
OT: SC Governor in fight with Unions over Boeings move to the state.
http://www.thestate.com/2011/05/10/1813340/haley-senators-to-discuss-nlrbs.html
There are also 9 states now in the process of working against the profit cap under Obama Care. GA is one that is supposedly leading the pack. I’ll try to find the link for ya.
Here is the link. They are already protesting before the masses of people are even able to start the program!
http://n.pr/mnHOAR
Obama OK’d HCR rule that 80% for medical care out of every dollar of premium could be lowered to 65% for medical care in Maine.
Seems to indicate that the claim that 30% of every dollar paid health ins companies was wasted was an understatement.
Looks like inshore tax haven hopping in order to union bust and the SC AG will gladly oblige.
True -
but the stats I am aware of show what was in your post -
“the continuing of trends that existed long before the reform and not really affected by it”
There is near zero cost control in Romney care – there will be less cost control if that is possible in his national plan.
The “affordable” policy covers so little that folks make the logical decision to take the tax hit rather than have insurance. Indeed “mandate Mass with its tax hit” gets about the same enrollment percentage as no mandate Vermont.
Change of payment from fee for service has tiny experiments but has gone nowhere as a statewide option that service providers will embrace and indeed they object to the variations that have been offered.
The only hope is Vermont – single payer with prospective budget – and while it passed both House and Senate, I have not heard that the language for a common bill has been worked out and passed as yet. And if passed they need a Federal law change to get a waiver by 2014 – without the law change they must wait to 2017 to apply for the waiver. And when they get the waiver the legislature will need to find funding for the plan.
Obama really set us back with his push for Heritage/Dole/Romney/GOP health reform.
Let’s face it: Obamacare is indefensible, in all respects.
Even Gruber is saying it’s not so affordable afterall.
Do you have a link? Thnx!
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/05/06/paper-sheds-new-light-on-affordable-unless-you-are-actually-sick-and-need-care-act/
Single payer / single source is the ultimate solution in the long term.
RomneyCare and ObamaCare are distractions which, left to their own devices, will not lead to that goal.
Yet it doesn’t seem Vermont single payer will be a likely state-level example of something better than RomneyCare. One can only imagine the GOP will block the changes in Fed law which would free up those necessary waivers for Vermont.
Kucinich said months ago that the GOP might finally upend ObamaCare and inadvertently open the door to single payer. It’s an intriguing idea.
Of course, all those long faces over at the WSJ editorial board do not tell its readers about the optimistic note recently made by Glen Shor, executive director of the insurance exchange set up by Massachusetts, who commended managed care organizations for saving Massachusetts taxpayers $80 million dollars. Perhaps the WSJ has a bias against managed care organizations, one vehicle found to be effective in reducing costs.
More importantly (and something the WSJ would never get), Mr. Shor put the matter of cost reduction into perspective:
No it’s NOT, not if population growth accounts the increase use in ER care as a frontline, and for that matter, I have a question of whether ER use is up FROM newly covered or those NOT covered (hint: I have a huge biased guess is those not covered, duh).
Question REALLY should be addressed on WHY, ER use was, and might still be, growing.
As you say, and we all knew and know, more coverage does NOT mean more use of the system as intended by the insurers . . . some folks just can’t afford it, and I’d like to see some study work on those newly covered who CAN’T afford to PAY for it, much less use it due to, premiums, caps, deductibles, etc.
But hey, I know yer one of the good guys in here, I’m just lightly defending Dayen’s story.
Who ELSE do we know on a daily blog that researches grad student studies for his stories in order to help his readers become more well informed.
Simply incredible work David.
Rcc’d.
;-)
Sorry, not buying this lemon. Insurance premiums and drug costs continue to rise at obscene rates. Obamacare is crap.
Hmm, makes me wonder how many insured (newly or not) can’t afford the coverage or afford to USE the coverage and owe hospitals and doc offices money as well cuz they either had chronic ills, got chronic ills or just got sick or injured somehow.
Yeah, but now we begin to extrapolate from ACA provisions, THis assumes some provisions for coverage are already in place.
Tell me about, dude.
Can ya gimme a summary? WHo’s protesting, why? WHat are they protesting? How are the people different in their anger at cost.utility as oposed to what the politicians might be protestingm which is all either idealogically or political?
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Love to both, hope things are well.
Shoot me an email tell me how ya are.
If moving anytime, I can help pack n lightly load stuff, help carry heavy stuff.
Till I get a job, I’m there any time of day or night, it would be an honor. IF I get jobbed, nights n weekends . . . but till then, you holler, I come a running.
I don’t even need beer or pizza, for that matter. ;-)
N my wagon can carry stuff, too, for short hauls. No gas, no charge, just there to help. Uh, this would include local taxi if ya need it . . . anytime as long as I’m not workin.
We can chat more offline . . . I just need ways to give back to others, n this is one I can want to give. ;-)
Oh chit, this is Jon Walker’s diary! Sorry Jon, my bad, but my kudo’s stick!!!
Dayum . . . they is all so good I forget their names . . . yeah, that’s my ticket, ;-)
The fix was in early as single payer was NOT at or on the table, and Public Option (joke that it was) got beaten down.
This was all a deliberate gamed process and strategy that Obama and his admin and the Senate n House willingly participated in for campaign funding TO dems and denied to ReThugs by PhArma n Big Med. But then, we all know this . . .
Now, given a ReThug majority win in Da Houz, n their GOP attack on women, minorities, LGBT’s, the poor, social services, social service safety nets, housing, education, and more . . . n ya can begin to think Obama was sent there to Da Big Hauz to ENABLE all of this erosion of civil rights and social order.
LeSigh, pass the Merlot, I know it’s not Friday but . . .
Yep, only the pharma n big med n insurers win.
Everyone else loses, now, and down the line.
Sadly, recent rulings against tgeh blocking of ACA suggest the trend nationally is NOT gonna be in favoir of MY fav unicorns.
I guess, I don’t dare hope for that lil imaginary nugget Kuch tossed out. There’s just no evidence to support it, N well, Kuch, he bailed anyway just after that plane ride with Teh Obama.
I don’t know where to start to refute your stuff, cuz line by line and word by word it’s so wrong it overwhelms me.
But let me just say this to start and finish.
Managed care is why and how we got into this fucking mess in the first place.
I know my history, I know the beginning and implementation of managed care and how it destroyed private practice and the users of that system.
Kaiser.
SO Lex, yer basically killin me with yer jive.
Just thought I’d mention that.
Yep.
It’s crazy enough trying to sift through who the Republican nominee for president will be but the establishment Republicans are betting on Romney.
So, in regards to RomeneyCare and the wish list of punitive laws Republicans are lining up to impose on all Americans in a Romney presidency I’m still trying to figure out what is meant by this House Resolution 237 which specifically states no federal funds for abortion but is vague on the “conscience protections.”
Here is the H.Res 237 which passed the House recently:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:74:./temp/~bdAogk:@@@D&summ2=m&|/home/LegislativeData.php?n=BSS;c=112|
Would the conscience protection apply only to a right-wing ideologue, say a pharmacist, who opposes dispensing birth control pills based on his/her morality standard or does it mean anyone can choose to ignore any law because it offends one’s moral or religious view? The Resolution 237 doesn’t make that clear at all.
Just curious after poring through dozens of these bills and laws that Republicans have rammed through so far this year.
“It’s crazy enough trying to sift through who the Republican nominee for president will be”
I thought it was Obama
The ultimate downfall of Obamacare will come frome the bottom. The original numbers put out anticipated adding 12 millon to Medicaid from increased eligibility. With continued high unemployment I wouldn’t be surprised to see that number grow to 15 to 18 million or even higher.
Medicaid is the weak link that the republican budget cutters are likely to have the most success in gutting.
Even at current levels there are not enough PCP’s willing to accept Medicaid. There certainly will not be enough to absorb 12, 15, 18 million or more new enrollee’s and that is without further budget cuts.
Where are the newly enrolled going to take their Medicaid cards when they get sick? The nearest EMERGENCY ROOM.
Enough hyperbole. Talk straight.
Dr. Atul Gwande in his June 1, 2009, New Yorker article, The Cost Conundrum, observed that
Dr. Gwande found that these and other successful accountable care organizations have
@lexrex
sorry but you do not understand what you are reading when it comes to Massachusetts or choose not to believe it. This is a common problem for those of you outside of Massachusetts only getting your information from Journolisters like Cohn
What Shor is saying in your quote is that IF enrollment in the high-end Medicaid program called Commonwealth Care (for those above vanilla Medicaid eligibility up to $80,000 in income) increases by 11%, the state will save $80 million in subsidies. What he is not saying is that enrollment is unlikely to increase by 11% because everyone is already insured and we have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country.
What he is also not telling you is that the state has approved increases for premiums for those not getting subsidies (your typical nurse/firefighter, teacher/teacher, administrator/cop, contractor/mom household). Those increases for the middle class make up for the fact that the insurers are not getting market rates for the subsidized care premoums. The “taxpayers” either get to pay in their tax bills or in their insurance bills but Shor has not saved anyone anything.
(As for “helping people,” that’s another crock. We have always helped people here in Massachusetts. That’s what Romneycare was all about. The idea was to take the money the state used to pay the charity hospitals and community health centers for the poor out of what was called the Free Care Pool and give it instead to the politically connected insurance companies to “insure the poor.” And now we do both. The idea is $400 million over budget.)