At the end of the health care debate, when Obama was desperate to get the final bill passed in the House, he agreed to make a deal with Bart Stupak (D-MI) on the issue of abortion, by offering an executive order that restricted the availability of insurance coverage for reproductive health. The right to abortion for many in need was traded away as a bargaining chip to get that final bill passed.
Last week, as part of the negotiations to get a budget for the rest of fiscal year 2011, President Obama again decided to use abortion rights as a bargaining chip to secure a final deal. To get Republicans to agree to a compromise, Obama promised to support a legislative rider which would prevent the District of Colombia from using its own tax revenue to fund abortion, despite the opposition of the District’s locally elected government.
Dealing like this only once to pass what the president considered his hallmark legislative achievement would seem unusual, but could be rationalized as an isolated incident. But doing it again, and to get agreement on something as mundane as a few months of stopgap funding for the federal government seems to indicate a pattern–a pattern I’m sure abortion opponents have noticed and are already working to exploit further in the upcoming legislative fights.
To a pro-choice advocate, this most recent precedent should be highly concerning.



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It is past time to remove the spending of public moneys to fund abortions. Freedom of choice should remain the law of the land, but without public funding. This is not a function of government.
Yeah, just like oil subsidies and mortgage deductions for vacation homes!
Hasn’t Federal funding of abortion been illegal for 30 years? (Hyde Amendment)
???
to alamode: the problem with that thinking is that once the kid is born, depending on circumstances, it is public money that will be used to give that kid Head Start, school lunch, health care, and food stamps. There’s no such thing as a free ride, even for Libertarians.
When one has no values, everything is seen as a bargaining chip.
Yes but Jon, Degette will get her funding, because she has been bought off. We all know it is about the fund raising and not the actual rights of women that are important.
Yes, the Hyde Amendment has been the law of the land for many years.
And, fer shure, no local government of a very medium-sized city should be allowed to govern how they spend their own money on things like allowing vagina-Americans to handle reproductive health issues with their doctor!
OK, that does it. I want him impeached.
Yes. The push now is to block entities that receive any federal funds at all from spending any funds whatsoever on abortion, even if the funds being spent come from a source other than the Feds
Hyde Amendment only applies to the states, not to District of Columbia.
Obama is highly concerning.
Obama. Re-puke.
Sounds like a load of semantics BS. They either fund abortions or they don’t. Pre-natal care isn’t abortion. Abortion funding is ILLEGAL. These politicians are insane.
Really? Well then here’s our chance to abort Congress.
All women should have access to legal procedures, regardless of who pays for their health care. Rich women will always have access to abortion when they need it. Women who are eligible for assistance for their health care shouldn’t be deprived of legal procedures simply because they are poor.
Been readin’ the Sarah Palin edition of the Constitution, have ya?
Jon, didn’t HHS push to ban abortion funding in the high-risk pools, even though they were not required under Stupak or Hyde?
At least here you have the excuse that it was a negotiation. What was the reasoning behind that – to showcase seriousness? Just like freezing federal workers’ pay (oow did that work out by the way)?
Senator Obama in opposition to raising the debt ceiling:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
Obama will just say anything and has no principles.
This funding aborting narrative sounds fishy to me. As far as i know, Government has never funded abortions have they? The last time I used Planned Parenthood, abortion was the only procedures that could not be priced on a sliding scale.
Health care is one of the most basic functions of government. In fact, it is recognized as a United Nations basic human right (Yayyyyy USA!!! Proud deniers of a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT).
And abortion is a perfectly legal health care service.
It’s always so refreshing to me when the right wing shows for the whole worlds to see their disdain for basic human rights. Helps to speed up the process of ordinary Americans seeing the right wing for what it is. The “I’ve got mine, fuck everybody else” mantra is going to be tough to defend when Americans do what has happened in every other system throughout all of history when they go too far in that direction.
Ding!
And thats the problem with uncritically adopting a right wing narrative at FDL, no less.
See Jim @14
It will make no difference anymore with Obama chopping the head off of Medicaid. Pretty much killing two birds with one stone. Thanks, President Obama.
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts/public_funding.html
Barefoot and pregnant – that’s the way they like us. Oh, and dumb and helpless, too.
Obama on the topic at hand of using women as bargaining chips. “The first bill I will sign is the Freedom of Choice Act. That’s the first bill I’ll sign.” Oh the irony. Said at a Planned Parenthood fundraiser in 2007 I believe.
Can we also add wars bank bailouts and tax cuts to the rich to that list. Would seriously prefer my taxes not going to those.
Glad to hear more people on the impeachment train.
And he’ll say the same thing again the next time. And a lot of people will still believe him.
yes about the high risk pools
There are several problems with it. First, it’s not going to happen. And can you imagine the damage it would do to this country if the first black prez was impeached. Not to mention that we are in so much trouble already that we don’t need the political upheaval this would cause. Frankly, I wish Obama would just go away but that’s not happening either.
until this move the DC could raise local taxes and use the local tax money to fund abortion. Many states do that with their Medicaid program. This will no longer now be allowed in DC though.
And what’s worse than just believing him is actually enabling him IMO. And I wonder how many millions are going to be doing that next year. There’s only one reason why politicians behave the way the do. It’s because they can.
And they can because voters don’t want to make them suffer the consequences. That likely includes even most folks here IMO. If I were forced to bet, I’d bet on more FDL members voting for Obama next year than not voting for him.
Dave Weigel doesn’t use the term “abortion”.
I long ago figured out that there are 2 As that cover most Qs. (1) BC they can. (2) BC they have to.
How can the Federal Gov prevent a local jurisdiction from using their tax money in any way the local jurisdiction chooses?
I know DC is special, this special that the Feds control their use of local taxes?
Isn’t it funny how when the Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress and the White House, it was their fault for all of the shitty legislation out of DC.
Then when the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress, but Bush retained the White House, it was still the Republicans fault for all of the shitty legislation out of DC.
And then when the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress AND the White House, it was STILL the Republicans fault for all of the shitty legislation out of DC.
And now when the Democrats controll the White House and the Senate and the Republicans control the House, it’s still the Republicans fault for all of the shitty legislation out of DC.
I’m sensing a pattern here.
You got it.
The pattern is that everything the Ds want, they are successfully hiding it behind the Rs.
Actually the Hyde amendment precludes use of federal money to pay for abortion. This legislation prevents local money from being used for reproductive services.
“The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor.”
—Voltaire
There is a pattern, when Obama said he got tax reductions for the middle class and tried to paint that Boehner didn’t want them, that he only wanted tax cuts for the rich. It was a lie. Boehner wan’t all the tax cuts.
These school vouchers are for Obama and his Education privatization scheme. I think the vouchers got nixed in DC because of a scandal. But it’s another giveaway to the rich at any rate.
So the idea is to try this out on some of the least politically powerful citizens in the country, set a precedent, frame health care and reproductive freedom as an entitlement instead of a right or necessary function of government, and then push it to the 50 states?
part of the argument is that money is fungible, and therefore if any amount is used for an immoral or unethical purpose, no matter how small, then all of it is technically used for evil. (unless you’re an arms manufacturer and we’re killing brown-skinned people somewhere or you’re a corporation and this is the Supreme Court, then money is free speech, or if you’re GE and don’t want to pay your income taxes…but i’m going off topic, so I’ll stop)
…and that DC is the Congress’s bitch.
It’s a pity for the heavily African American citizens of DC that they vote so often and so overwhelmingly for Democrats. That makes them part of Mr. Obama’s base, whose interests he is the first to trash when “negotiating” with [given away the store to] his political opponents.
Apart from those who live in DC’s wealthy NW quadrant, DC has a large population of poor. Now they can’t even choose how to spend their own health care tax dollars. They have very few spare dollars to pay for such services out of their own after-tax income.
I gather Mr. Obama has never gone camping or learned what things he ought not do upstream of where he draws water.
Thank you. Sad that that information has to be repeated and repeated.
No… it’s called humor
Yep. DC is a federal district; it is ruled directly by Congress. Reviewing its history, it would be more correct to say “misruled”. Congress frequently makes political footballs out of meeting DC citizens’ most basic needs.
That a Democratic president would promise Democratic congressional votes in support of such heavily partisan Republican goals, which ignore the plain will of the citizens of DC, is reprehensible. Thirty years ago, it would have been a Reagan wet dream.
It’s one more link in Mr. Obama’s Jacob Marleyite chain of misdeeds. If this is Mr. Obama at his pragmatic best, it’s hard to imagine how his being an ideologue would make him a less capable leader.
Touche.
I wish we could end federal funding of murder.
It’s as if politicians collectively ignore that abortion is a constitutionally protected right.
Too bad he can’t get pregnant. He might be less likely to trade away a medical procedure that some women need.
Nah, he’d probably consider trading his life for corporate donations, I forgot.
The wealthiest and most capitalism-friendly countries in the world make access to health care a civil right and publicly fund it. That’s also by far the cheapest way to provide a service everyone needs, especially as they age. Every country, that is, except America, because in America, the needs of the corporation come first.
Not surprising. They have ignored the rest of the Constitution. Women and children are thrown overboard as they please.
Thanks for the facts on federal funding for abortion. Remember when House Republicans wanted to re-define rape as only if it was under violent circumstances? They want to pass a blanket law banning all federal funding of abortion, which is clearly class discrimination.
If a woman has the money and resources, she can get an abortion. She might have to travel to a different state to find a provider and then abide by whatever restrictions that state has — there might be a waiting period; she might be subjected to viewing a sonogram of the fetus; she may have to sit through a lecture about alternatives to abortion. If she’s a minor, she might have to get the permission of both parents, on and on. Here’s a good round-up of restrictions in the states –
http://www.alternet.org/story/150526/10_states_with_the_most_shocking_anti-woman_legislation?page=entire
Well said – no local money for abortions – which means Medicaid must go beyond the present version of the Hyde Amendment which requires coverage of abortion in cases of rape, incest, and life endangerment to the women to a DC only version where Medicaid can not fund even these abortions.
Of course the needle exchange program must stop, and the voucher program for schools must start.
It must be rough to live in a colony of the US, having no right to self govern, and still be expected to support Obama because his skin color is darker than some other folks.
Indeed the Mayor of DC lead 200 folks to protest the above in front of the Senate Office building today, and the Capitol Police detained her – and the Capitol Police report to the President of the Senate who reports to Majority leader Senator Reid who takes his orders from Obama (for the first few hours the police ignore the protesters – but then word came down from the Political Leader of the US).
I came across this quote in a recent article by Lewis Lapham, “The Servant Problem.” It’s an outstanding essay.
http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/preamble/the-servant-problem.php
Is it time to say “primary?”
Stolen from George Carlin’s bit on God-given rights in “It’s Bad for Ya”: If it can be taken away, it’s not really a right.
(The bit starts about 4:20.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm-Mi1_lLo0
Correction: I just checked HR3, the Repub’s ban on all federal money for elective abortions preserves the exceptions of rape, incest and when necessary to save the life of the mother.
Not really sure what the purpose of HR3 is. Maybe Obama’s executive order wasn’t enough for them. They want to pass a law to prevent the new insurance exchanges, under health care reform, from being a back door to using federal money for abortions.
Or, they just want to strike another blow against choice in child-bearing.
HR 3 includes the ban on D.C. using federal money to pay for abortions, as other states do with their state money.
Well, now they have everything they want (to date) on abortion, if Obama’s executive order is enforced. The only thing left would be to try and criminalize abortion again.
Good god, don’t we have bigger fish to fry?
Obama caves on everything.
Medicaid is state funded with Federal aid – so DC’s ban says the mother to be will die if necessary to use Medicaid funds.
At least that is how I read it (but I am not a lawyer)
This is one of several reasons the president is making the speech on wednesday. The papercuts of damage are leaking out. We will be finding out more of what he has given away in this ‘deal’. Some of which he said he ‘didn’t like’.
It looks like Rachel Maddow may have turned the corner on her obot position, her show was particularly venomous covering this story.
It is plain to see the camel’s nose in now under the tent. This decision allows the federal government intruding into reproductive rights all over.
He will also prime the pump for whatever he plans to prenegotiate away.
Dealing with this guy is arguing with ourselves over a misdirected vote.
He is going to redefine voter’s remorse way past the john kasich/scott walker mold
TT’s Law of Democratic Party Politics: The more solidly a constituency supports the party and its candidates, the greater the probability that the party will take a big steaming crap on it.
Ok, Hyde Amendment doesn’t allow Fed funds for abortion. My question is why is it the Republicans always get their way. I don’t mind Fed Funds are used to protect a woman’s right. Why then are Repugnacans always given in to?
At what point do we start standing up for what we believe in to be correct. I think that Senate Dems should walk out of the Senate leaving just enough Dem Senators with Republicans to get a 60 vote passage of the Debt ceiling when the vote comes up to send a message to Republicans that it’s time for them to do what’s right for the country.
Capitol Hill Democrats are a loser organization, one on the order of the LA Clippers. Losing is part of their DNA. If you resurrected Lyndon Johnson from the dead and put him back into the Senate, within 6 months he’d turn into a junior-varsity Mark Pryor. It’s that bad.
Athenae is upstairs!
Late Night: Give More Power to the Elected Officials
The problem is that pro choice groups allowed him to use womens reproductive rights as a bargaining chip to begin with. This should come as no shock to anyone paying attention during the primaries. Barack Obama had a troubling history of voting present “strategically” and getting a pass to do so. Sigh.
Obama is a fucking phony and has always been nothing more.
He is a sow’s ear that progressives were duped into believing was a silk purse. He’s been the stepn’fetchit for the oligarchy.
And he wasn’t hard to buy.
Obama 2012?
You’d be better off canning peaches and training your dog to hunt.
Pro Choice groups
Black groups
Progressives groups
Anti War groups
all got con by OBAMA
everyone wants to be a monday morning QB, but only a few people saw how Evil Obama would become as president.
Listed below are some of OBAMA best Con Jobs
1st Obama endorses the Bush agenda of spying on and killing americans
2nd Obama attacks Unions (the F! the UAW moment screams republican)
3rd Obama double downs on Bush Wars, (now they are Obama wars)
4th Obama attacks Teacher Unions (teacher unions now hate OBAMA)
5th Obama does not attack the Banks? he bails them out? (sorta like what the GOP does)
6th Obama passes the Bob Dole Health Care Bill (Bob Dole is a republican)
7th Obama kills the Public Option
8Th Obama kills Drug Importation
9Th Obama APPOINTS an insurance executive to manage his health care Bill
10th Obama does not APPOINT Dawn Johnsen
11th Obama hand picks the cat food commission to destroy Social Security
12th Obama supports Blanche Lincoln, a candidate who hates Unions, and has no chance of winning
13 Guantanomo still open for business
14.Patriot Act renewed
15. renditions continue
16. Bernanke reappointed
17. Americans targeted for assassination
18 Obama is all for sending more USA jobs off shore
19 Obama is for tax cuts for the RICH!
20. Obama and the TSA porno Scandal
21 Obama freezes federal wages for 2 years
22. OBAMA TARP Funds for Legal Services for Foreclosure Victims Blocked By Treasury
23. Obama lowers estate tax for the rich
24. Obama tax bill of 2010 GUTS Social Security
25. Obama wants WikiLeaks Assange charged with espionage.
26 Obama Fake Net Neutrality Caves to AT&T,Comcast
27 Obama Wall Street Buddies foreclose on USA soldiers Homes
Someone thought the list above was written by Clarence Thomas, NOT
this is all OBAMA!
how many progressives will vote for Clarence Thomas?
Coming soon, OBAMA screams like a liberal
Is it too cynical to say, in politics everything is a bargaining chip?
That’s what you get ladies when you support a guy who steps on stage after winning the Iowa caucus to the strains of Jay-Z’s “I got 99 problems but a bitch ain’t one”. That’s what you get when you laughed at the mantra “bro’s before ho’s” which was worn on t-shirts and carried on poster boards by his little frat-boy/thug male followers. You laughed….
No one is talking cuts to men’s access to erectile dysfunction drugs; as if a woman get’s pregnant sitting on her thumb!
Speaking as a lesbian and a former Democrat, now Independent, you ladies who went along with this crap have only yourselves to blame. Look to yourselves, the men around you who thought disparaging other women was a gas during the campaign, and to the so-called women’s organizations who sold out!
Don’t use the threat of Roe vs Wade as a way of ushering me back into the fold as a former 20-year Democratic voter, because it won’t work. You wanted Obama, you sold him as a feminist (thanks Ms. Magazine!!) and you got Bart Stupak. You wanted reproductive rights and instead you got pharmacists who won’t fill a woman’s birth control prescription on moral grounds, but won’t ask a man for proof that his ED drug prescription will only be used in the confines of a monogamous heterosexual relationship.
So, you see: With Obama as President, I too have “99 problems” but dumbass self-loathing women, who vote against their own best interests, ain’t one of them!!
This Dem is messing with safe and legal abortion? Brother, you lose the women’s vote and you’re done. This pres has used up his FDR “Make Me Do It” pass. We’re exhaused trying to make this corporate errand lad do anything. And AGAIN he’s trying to rally the troops behind ending tax breaks for earners over 250K. Jesus H Christ pres, WE’VE ALREADY BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD. What a useless pres. No vision, no guts. And he’s dissing the girls. Let the repubs win, we’re long past a peaceful solution.
They got duped because they WANTED to be duped. Plenty of us wanted to have a conversation on Obama’s record. Instead we were called ignorant, racist, bitter and republican. We were told the differences were imaginary. This is what happens when half the party rubberstamps a candidate and does so by smearing it’s other half.
Do I know Clinton would be better? No. Do I still believe that Obama is a disaster for the Democratic brand. Everyday and twice on Fridays. Shoulda, Woulda and Coulda are no longer viable options but I’m still looking to see that perhaps the progressives that ran around with “Sarah Palin is a c-nt” t shirts are ready to get real and actually look at candidates much harder than the he/she has a particular letter following their name and actuallt hit the useless Ds just as hard as the Republicans.
I guess in your world it’s okay if ALL women have to live with the mistake some women made in 2008.
You don’t sound any better than a Republican that insists that if a woman has sex that she should be forced to live with the consequences. Same logic-
Think about it. You are suggesting that because some women made the mistake of believing a smooth talking guy who ran under the mantle of a party that professes choice that they and everyone else should have to live with the consequences for a lifetime. How is that liberal?
Only everything isn’t? When was the last time anything having to do with guns was offered up as a bargaining chip? Women(as a generality in politics) are too nice and too willing to be concilliatory. Until womens groups get with the program and go out of their way to anihilate anyone who would even ask they cede their reproductive rights , this is what the consequences will be.
Think about it. 40+ people in the progressive caucus ceded to 12 to give us a health reform bill that treated women’s reproductive health as less important than mens even though our reproductive process is way more volatile than our male counterparts due to large changes that our reproductive systems undergo.
Yes….
If women want real change then the next generation needs to fight for it. Women, just like their male counterparts, need to be held accountable for their own actions. Doesn’t sound pleasant does it? Well you know, anyone with half a brain should have seen the writing on the wall during the primary. If they didn’t then they wanted to be fooled, plain and simple. I don’t chalk this simply up to stupid first time voters.
Women, like men, have to live with the consequences of their actions. Not just sexual ones. It is what change you want and what you are willing to do, to see to it that you are not assaulted a second time by a system that is setup not to assist you but to see you fail.
As for your dig about me being no better than a Republican for my views, ==edited by mod==. We are all, myself included, suffering for the deraingment of this president and his predecessor. You know, George W. Bush? You know the one; the one that so-called liberals in 2000 said was no different than Al Gore so they decided to throw their vote and their “moral” protest behind Ralph Nader?
The suffering stops when people pull their heads out of their collective asses….and I am not going to vote abusers back in office!
Yes what?
I asked you how it was “liberal” to believe if a person makes a mistake that they and others be forced to suffer the consequences of that person’s actions for large periods of time.
The difference between a liberal and a conservative is thst liberals understand that sometimes people make mistakes or that sometimes circumstances force less than ideal situations upon us.
Your position is no different than a Republicans in that it is unyielding and insistant that not only those that were involved suffer the consequences but innocent people be forced to suffer consequences as well.
Even if their heads were out of their backsides YOU need to wake up to the fact that playing the blame game at this point is counterproductive. 2008 is over all you can do is HOPE that people learned from the exercise and hope that someone comes forward in 2012 that might actually do more than say they support women’s rights but be willing to fight for them.
Such hypocrisy of Republicans claiming they hate big government interference.