Barak Hussein Obama, before becoming President:

“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

President Obama: Liar.

The short version of O’s Nobel speech is “War is peace.”

President Obama is very shrewd when it comes to words.

does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

Note he did not specify which nation was the nation.

Waiting for the Nobel committee to set up an award for “humanitarian kinetic military action” anytime now.

*sigh*

Nice post.

Wars in the ME are getting soooo tiresome. They’re really a dime a dozen these days.

Here’s an idea on the location for the next wars.

A “kinetic” military action? It sounds like a “Connecticut military action.” Hey, where is Joe Lieberman, now that I think of it?

No brown people.

Hiding his Droopy face.

Anytime you have to ask what Lieberman is up to, you just know you’re in for a nasty surprise.

He’s just waiting for John and Lindsey to tell him where he stands on it.

We simply submitted “enemy combatants”–who may or may not have actually been picked up on the battlefield

there’s the problem with terrorism, everywhere is “the battlefield”

that’s why a war on terror is perfect for these people

I never found him that good with words.

His campaign speeches were pretty banal. The whole picture was energizing bc he loves being adulated by large crowds & he shines as a consequence.

Also, someone on FDL (who I would love to thank every time I type this but don’t remember who it was) told us his words were poll tested to deceive. That’s prolly what I intuited bc I thought there was something smelly about him before I had any evidence.

Eskimos are close enough.

Besides, it’ll be an interesting test of whether it’s entirely about resource capture, regardless of whether the U.S. get to bomb people of color or not.

I’d tell you what my first thought was on reading what you said, but I don’t think there’s enough brain bleach to go around. I’m going to need quite a lot, I’m afraid.

there’s the problem with terrorism, everywhere is “the battlefield”

Pat Benatar could have told you that.

Then please…don’t share.

Eskimos are close enough.

I’m reminded of a mock ad that ran on SNL once for a Norris/Stallone film called “Die, Foreigner, Die.” The whole thing consisted of shots of muscular, bare-chested torsos firing off assault rifle round after round while spent shells piled up and the names of the (many) nationalities you would see die scrolled up the screen.

And this was even before the first Gulf War.

Was there ever a better female singer than Pat Benatar?

Ummm…. Roberta Flack? Pat Benatar was great though. I saw her in Houston and she was wearing a cheerleader outfit I think in 1981 and every man and half of the women in that place had it bad for her….myself included.

Our leaders don’t exactly claim “War is Peace,” but being told war is a “humanitarian kinetic military action” isn’t far off.

Great line.

George Orwell was mostly right. Mostly. Our leaders don’t exactly claim “War is Peace,” but being told war is a “humanitarian kinetic military action” isn’t far off.

Obama is further than Bush in going full Orwell. Bush never denied he was going to war, while Obama acts like he’s Gandhi for dropping bombs and firing missiles. It was very Big Brotherish with the treatment of Manning with the claims that he was being stripped and paraded for his own protection – the Bush admin at least claimed theyw were doing it for nationational security rather than claiming they were doing it out of benevolence for their victims.

Try this. Obscure but great.

That sounds absolutely awful. I would never watch something like that.

I did resort to watching some Stallone movie on TV a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity. I don’t know which one it was but I was channel surfing & caught a portion near the beginning when he busted out of jail single-handedly against 5-6 jailers, then got tracked thru the woods, cliffs and rushing streams in Bumblefuck US, with one outrageous stunt surpassing the last one. I was ROFLMAO.

Bush did try the “we’re going in to liberate the Iraqis” line, but the Iraqis knew he was lying. I’m a little concerned that there are folks in Libya who may mistakenly believe they’re going to get something good out of this clusterfuck.

Also Linda Ronstadt has an amazing range and really kicks ass.

Wouldn’t know it. I’ve never watched an actual Stallone movie, because…well, they’re Stallone movies.

The record of the last 110 years is that there is arguably a 1/13 chance that a country where the U.S. plays a defining role in overthrowing regime ends up better for it, according to Kinzer. The arguably better case is Puerto Rico.

you’re gonna laugh

always loved cher’s voice, couldn’t stand her choices in music but man did I love her voice

then I met her in a club in new york before she made her first come back, bought her a drink at a club called “heart break”

I told her I thought she had the best female voice in pop, she told me I was out of my mind

I’m proud of you.

Me, not so much.

But I have to connect with pop culture from time-to-time, esp the male variety.

Crappola. I just caught up with a friend I haven’t seen in a while on IM. She had a recurrence of her breast cancer and it has become metastatic. She won’t see 2012. :(

1/13 is better than I expected. Really, if the U.S. government and military ever had the capacity to do the right thing the right way for the right reasons when it comes to intervention, they’ve lost it now.

Shit. I’m sorry.

What a nice story & lucky you.

I happened to be listening to Wash Journal on cspan one morning, prolly around 2005 when she actually called in. It was before they identified callers with first names & the host recognized her voice. She was engaged in an effort to buy helmet liners for U.S. soldiers in Iraq, to minimize brain injuries after IED encounters.

And, mind you, she said she listened to WJ every morning, which is on from 4a-7a on the West Coast.

I suspect our founders feared the Constitution might be shredded by military coup, civil war, foreign invasion or dictatorship, but I doubt they ever suspected it would be ruined by semantics.

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to launch a “kinetic military action” …

1/13 is by the numbers of cases, not population weighted.

Yeah, me too. She’s been through a lot though. And not just the cancer.

Oh, please DO share. I need a laugh!

Yeah, I got that…you’re right, pop weighted would look really bad…

I’m not laughing. Try this.

Sounds like a good night to get good and drunk.

OK, just STOP with the f’g with my mind.

I’ve been having all these computer problems.

Then this morning, my cable tv went out until I rebooted it.

Just now, a perfect sunny day with no wind, my electricity went out for about a second.

I’m getting a complex.

Yeah… I’m thinking along those lines too.

AGAIN?

My power went out for about two minutes a couple of mornings ago. No pop, no storm, just poof!

So sorry, Peg. That sucks.

“But that trick never works!”

x2

“Nothin’ up the sleeve….”

So sorry to hear about your friend.

It took a couple of days for the momentary power outage to travel from TX to NY. What kind of intergalactic species travels at that rate?

A very slow and long lived one apparently.

And not in the visibility range of the human eye, apparently.

Yeah, I didn’t see a thing.

“Bush did try the ‘we’re going in to liberate the Iraqis’ line”

Being “liberators” has been used since at least WWII, but there was no denying the parties involved that it was an actual war. Saying you’re liberating someone does not remotely deny you’re waging war, which Obama is actively denying he’s waging war and instead is doing the whole WAR IS PEACE thing.

Can we liberate the American people yet? Drones over wall st perhaps.

~~~modnote: no violence~~~

My computer gets knocked out frequently. Like you say – sunny day, no wind. The strange thing is it only lasts a fraction of a second – just long enough to shut down the computer, but not long enough to affect any clocks running on electricity. OTOH, there can be a blinding storm raging with never a flicker. (FP&L)

I agree for the most part. However I believe he is very deceptive to someone not looking at it objectively. I had a gut feeling about him, but vote for McCain! A lot of it is what he doesn’t say.

I really enjoy your comments and believe you possess a wealth of knowledge. I appreciate your candor to which you reply to people. Thanks again.

I am sorry to hear that Margaret.

Back in the day in Southeast Asia, we used to say: “we are the unwilling led by the unqualified to do the unnecessary for the ungrateful.” Now, we can only say of our so-called military “leadership” that “if they knew what to do, they’d have done it already (after about a decade or so). If they could have, they would have; but they didn’t, so they can’t.”

Obama acts like he’s Gandhi for dropping bombs and firing missiles

Apparently winning the Nobel Peace Prize can do that to one.

I’m sorry to hear that.

Back in the day during America’s War on Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos), we imperial stormtroopers had many cheerful slogans to encapsulate the Orwellian nature of our “liberating” enterprise:

“Peace thru War”

“Happiness is a high body count”

“Fighting for Peace is like f*cking for virginity”

“Kill a Commie for Christ”

“Kill a Gook for God”

“Kill ‘em all and let God sort it out”

“Bomb ‘em back into the stone age. And if they’re already there, bomb ‘em further back.”

“Grab ‘em by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow”

“If it’s dead and Vietnamese, it’s Viet Cong”

“We’re here because we’re here because we’re here because we’re here”

“Don’t knock the war, it’s the only one we’ve got”

Yet what kind of exultant encouragement to eviscerate do we from our heroic hothouse orchids today? “Kinetic Military Action” instead of “War”? Oh, my. It sounds almost like that “Police Action” thing somewhere off the southwestern coast of Japan in the early 1950s. What sanitized semantics! I’ll bet the bombs and bullets don’t even hurt any more — as long as the official words don’t. Perhaps Deputy Dubya Bush had it right about the Constitution as “just a worthless scrap of paper.” Certainly, President Obama seems to think agree with that assessment.

So, Bush was bad for bombing brown-skinned people to ‘free’ them from Saddam and Obama is bad for bombing brown-skinned people to ‘protect’ them from Gadhafi. Hmmm. Bush invaded, killed innocents, jailed many, tortured many and planned to stay forever. Obama isn’t invading to stay or kill innocents or jail & torture anybody. In fact, if Gadhafi were to leave the military action would end very quickly. Gadhafi’s action has influenced teh price of oil and that IS an American interest. Protecting people from slaughter IS a humanitarian and American interest. Supporting those who want Democracy IS an American interest. Bush had no justification for his invasion as Saddam wasn’t killing people. Bush had no justification based on American interests as he had tried to explain about WMD, but there were no nukes. Bush had no justification for overthrowing the gov’t as that violated U.N. resolutions.

Bush had no sound logical moral or legal reasons for his action, but Obama has. Equating Bush and Obama is only possible when you say they’re married American men who were/are president.

Obama must have studied the Constitution the same way an oncologist studies cancer.