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During the primaries, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were competing to see who could kiss the hem of AIPAC’s gown with the most enthusiasm. Now, however, the White House is outsourcing the pro-AIPAC rhetoric to Clinton, Mullen and others, while Robert Gibbs and Obama himself issue cautious support for “democracy.”
What’s up with that? Well, you’ll never go far wrong interpreting the White House tea leaves these days if you trace it back to the only thing they care about right now: the 2012 Presidential election.
The DNC pursued a risky GOTV strategy in 2010: instead of turning out likely midterm voters, they focused on 2008 surge voters. That meant young people in urban areas who had not voted before, who nonetheless turned out to elect Obama in 2008. Predictably, they weren’t very interested in a non-Presidential election and did not turn out in numbers sufficient to forestall a Democratic drubbing. Democrats who hailed from non-urban districts were left to fend for themselves when it came to GOTV efforts.
But that just underscores how important young voters are to Obama right now. The DNC was willing to throw Democratic congressional seats on a risky strategy that failed as a 2010 GOTV effort, but successfully began the outreach for Obama 2012. It’s no coincidence Obama favored college campuses when he personally hit the campaign trail.
Obama is always conscious of the fact that he needs young voters and works hard to maintain a strong, positive image with students. We successfully pushed for the Student Lending bill to be included in the Heath Care reconciliation bill last year when we launched the Students vs Banks campaign, despite the fact that the White House was worried about losing health care votes in the process. Ultimately they took that risk because his political team didn’t want young voters on college campuses angry at Obama over the tuition hikes, program cuts and scarce grants.
And now that Prop 19 failed and it doesn’t matter any more, it’s telling that the President is suddenly expressing support for a “serious debate” of marijuana legalization.
So, with the 2012 election looming, the last thing Obama needs is to be seen coming down on the side of a repressive dictator straight out of Central Casting, crushing a student uprising driven by Twitter and Facebook.
AIPAC could have counted on George Bush to be enthusiastically supporting their dictator of choice in the name of “stability in the region.” In fact, name a President they couldn’t count on. Or a member of Congress. AIPAC has spent their defense-industry infused war chest well, ensuring lucrative US-financed weapons sales to the Middle East for decades (for more on that see William Hartung’s fine book on Lockheed Martin, Prophets of War).
But Bush never needed an enthusiastic phalanx of Facebook-connected young people to secure his reelection. And right about now, the defense industrial complex are ready to put their collective heads through a wall every time Obama pays lipservice to “democracy.” Sure, Clinton and Mullen are out there doing the wink-wink nudge-nudge, and tapping Frank Wisner was supposed to send a strong signal. But when Wisner expressed support for Mubarak, Robert Gibbs ran out there at lightening speed to distance the White House from his remarks.
Ironically, social media has had an impact on US politics almost as radical as it has had on Egypt’s. AIPAC’s grip on Washington has never been so tenuous.
The story got out there before the Powers that Be could control and shape it. The young people fueling the uprising in Egypt pushed out their own message, showing their own faces and telling the world about their determination, before they could be painted as dangerous radicals by the powers they threaten.
And now those same young Egyptians know that if Obama and Clinton succeed in installing Omar Suleiman as the head of Egypt, the man who has been “America’s personal abducter, detainer and torturer” will fix his gaze on them. They will be next in line for abduction, detention, torture and murder.
Holding out against Suleiman has literally become a matter of life and death for them.
But despite the best efforts of every power player in the game, Obama continues to give hope to the Egyptians camped out in the square. Just as his continued support for the “public option” fueled enthusiasm long after he had negotiated it away, likewise his vocal support for democracy in Egypt continues to embolden the demonstrators.
Recently released Wikileaks cables confirm that Israel wants Suleiman, and that used to be enough to make the entire DC establishment fall in line. No more. AIPAC’s iron grip on American diplomacy experiencing its most serious challenge in decades.
Because when the 2012 election rolls around, Obama is going to have to explain what happened in Egypt to American young people. And he does not want to be answering questions about why Egyptian students are blaming him on Facebook and Twitter for the torture and deaths of their compatriots at the hands of a dictator he installed.
In the end, if Obama truly wants to install Suleiman, he probably can. He’ll engineer one of those “make me do it” moments, where he just has to accept that the thing his administration has been working tirelessly to achieve is the best thing for Egypt. But the minute that happens, and the stories start leaking out about young demonstrators being “disappeared” by Suleiman’s thugs, he’ll have to explain to the social media generation how it was all worth it for “stability in the region.”
And this time, he won’t be able to blame it on the need for “60 votes.”








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Wow – excellent, Jane. Go get ‘em.
We need an Egypt redux in Jordan.
Song dedicated to the MOTUs and their faithful lapdog Barack Obama.
Did David visit Bradley this weekend?
maybe I’m simply following the wrong twitter feeds, but my tweeps sure make it sound like Obama is not to be trusted -
now wondering if some of that is fallout from his earlier speech in Cairo (all democracy, all the time) wherein he um, failed to deliver on all that noble heartswelling™ prose
Was this the kabuki behind Egypt’s release of the facebook guy? Reelect O?
Good article and interesting take on the situation. I don’t know if I completely agree with everything in it, but it sounds pretty plausible and fits with obama’s lack of principles … the only principle he holds true is to do what is best for him … and his lack of character.
Z
That’s awesome.
Change You Can Protest For™
fyi – there was a genuinely heartrending moment at the end of yesterday’s interview w/ Wael Ghonim – where the interviewer showed him the faces of those murdered by Mubarak’s State Security – it has not been included in the transcribed copies now making the rounds – (considered too personal a moment by local cultural standards ?) anyhoo, without understanding a word of Arabic, I was deeply moved by Ghonim’s response
The pain and desperation in that young man were amazing to me. The spirit of this revolution is so strong, and none of our Western media outlets are doing it justice.
The DNC pursued a risky GOTV strategy in 2010: instead of turning out likely midterm voters, they focused on 2008 surge voters. That meant young people in urban areas who had not voted before, who nonetheless turned out to elect Obama in 2008. Predictably, they weren’t very interested in a non-Presidential election and did not turn out in numbers sufficient to forestall a Democratic drubbing. Democrats who hailed from non-urban districts were left to fend for themselves when it came to GOTV efforts.
Obama wants young college age voters and non college kids votes but without jobs how can they move out of their parent’s house, ever mind get married?
Obama’s economy is not creating jobs he risks America going Egypt on the Dems and GOP alike.
Scares ‘em to death.
What is the Dems plan for the next election more of the same if so maybe we can target Blue Dogs in Primaries where Obama won’t campaign for them?
The young voters that Obama is so desperately seeking, as Jane points out above, are on the verge of the same emotions. I think our actions will largely depend on how Obama handles the next two years, but if things don’t get better fast, the US may be facing protests as well.
Exactly. This is why I don’t like all this poo pooing of the potential in this revolution I’m seeing in some places. Being cynical about the revolution completely ignores the fact of how high the stakes are for all the people standing in Tahrir right now.
Also, being the enemy of idealism ensures that the ideals don’t triumph.
The stakes are so high no one is going home until they get what they want, or they’re murdered. The best single thing the Egyptians can do, IMO, is to close down the Suez Canal. They don’t even need a general strike. If they close down the canal, they win. I think.
I still think we should primary Obama.
The Suez Workers went on strike today. 6000 strong. All canal workers.
I have thought about that – incredible that he wasn’t permanently disappeared given the brutality of the regime – but I don’t think so – if anything, his release and subsequent nationally broadcast interview has served to re-energize the people
The revolt in Egypt is caused by economic inequality in the Arab world, a poverty fostered by corporations in Europe and America – none of whom care anything about you, me, AIPAC, Israel or the Jews, who are routinely excluded from their wasp executive boards. Blame Bush? Yes! Blame an Israeli lobby that faces continuous “liberal” opposition? It is a red herring. (This should generate some heated comments.}
I saw that. The Reuters article I saw though indicates that these employees work in a support capacity away from the actual canal operations and that the canal is anticipated have no operational interruptions.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/08/egypt-suezcanal-strikes-idUSWEB752720110208
I hope that official is just official spin.
I think his treatment and release had more to do with his international recognition and the media coverage of the events in Egypt. Someone in their government realized Ghonim was just too high profile.
What the heck is the deal at Huff Post? Headline story says “U.S. backs off Calls for immediate change in Egypt”. Huh, did I mess something? When did U.S. call for immediate change in Egypt?
lol Jane Hamsher – influential Egyptian blogger Sandmonkey has just been labeled “foul mouthed” by geo political villagers
it didn’t hurt that he was highly visible employee of planet’s most profitable corporation either
but interesting as shit nonetheless – some arm of the State grabbed him, but another arm recognized and or sympathized to save him
Thank you for putting a human face on the victims of these dictator/terrorists. It has been touch and go with Obama/Mubarak/Sulieman regime. I wish Israel would give them all more kisses of death so the youth can see why Gaza and Egypt have become prison-nations. Obama’s whimpering about democracy and pleading for protestors to be nonviolent fall on deaf ears after police gunned downed hundreds (300?) then unleashing the thug brigade of stone throwers the night after that. Why should the youth trust Sulieman to not kill them or imprison them after last weeks “rubbish” treatment of their civil rights and of their bodies. The regime will promise them everything and anything to stay in power and god help them, I hope they are not fooled any longer.
If Obama wants to win election he needs a national strategy on jobs. American passenger trains go slow because freight trains often use the same track and go slower because they are weighted down with freight.
Building a separate track for freight would provide many people jobs in the Western States immediately because you can start construction now because the land is empty.
In blue costal states figuring a route that won’t effect too many homes and business would take time. Plus it has the benefit of making the western state GOPers argue against jobs in their home states.
Primary Obama seconded now we just need a candidate:)
God forbid President Obama takes up legalization! He’ll do it all wrong; in an effort to be bipartisan, he’ll have the cartels in a cabinet position. We in Massachusetts are active in writing (well, what tweaks we can get in) both medical and legalizing bills from a patient’s pov. But it would be nice to stop the Feds from busting up the dispensaries.
Nice job, Jane, seeing where to target.
And, just because;
Walk Like An Egyptian
Suez Workers on strike how much of the world’s freight including oil goes through there oil prices will go up if the strike isn’t broken. This is what I worried about to keep Suez open Obama will turn a blind eye to mass killing not that our Media would report it in real time.
Obama to keep the Suez open would send in troops if he has any to spare.
Jane as usual gave us an inside look at the pathetic Obama WH
does OBAMA really think he can still win in 2012? really? :)
David Plouffe, Axelrod, and Gibbs tap dancing aound the Egyptian Revolution would make Sammy Davis Jr proud
David Gergen tried his best last night to stop Anderson Cooper from telling the truth about Sueliman.
Mubarak thugs probably should have not Punched Anderson in head, now he is punching back and taking names.
all roads to WH for OBAMA lead thru Liberal Country, AIPAC better hold on for the ride, because CON MAN OBAMA FROM 2008 is coming to a TV soon, and he is going to sound like an FDL CHEERLEADER. AIPAC is about to witness, what the left witnesses daily, AIPAC is about to feel the wrath of CON MAN OBAMA
Me Thinks Obama would hug JANE, if it could help him win in 2012,
Obama the Con Man probably would seek an interview with KO to win in 2012.
this is going to be hillarious
maybe there’s a mandate in our future :D
Yeah, teh Google would’ve been angry if he didn’t come home in one piece.
I also find the conflicting decisions within the government very interesting. Some of the things he said in his interview, about the respect and fair treatment he received, were very interesting.
What should Obama do instead of putting his support behind Suleiman? If he puts his support behind the people, he cant make the current government give up it power can he? If he supports the protestors, the only thing he can do is cut aid to this current govt, but this govt isnt using any resources to right the protestors, they are just trying to out last them. So what is the Presidents other option other than sitting around and waiting to see what happens?
We’ve used small Special Forces groups to kill or remove dictators before…
How does Obama measure up against Reagan and Bush in growing the federal debt, tax cuts and a lowering of the average American’s income and assets compared to Bush, Reagan at a similar time in their Presidency?
Is Obama going for the Hoover mark or are Bush and or Reagan still ahead?
uh oh,
looks like Suleiman just sent a ‘now make me do it !’ message to the People”
I want to point out that I’m not advocating this.
I really think that we should’ve just stayed the hell out of it. The US should’ve kept it’s nose clean and encouraged recognition of civil and human rights. That’s it. Let the Egyptians decide what’s best for Egypt.
you are very late to the party!
the EGYPTIAN MILITARY is taking orders from the USA MILITARY.
the USA Military is telling Egyptian Military leaders what to do as we speak, base on USA military commanders coming on TV.
Obama could do a lot!
But OBAMA, HILLARY, BILL, JOE, ALBRIGHT, and the rest of congress belong take orders from the Israel Lobby.
Obama backing Mubarak sends a signal to every Arab dictator America stands with you just beat up the foreign press before you start killing people.
Very interesting thoughts Mz. Hamsher regarding youth and youth votes.
What REALLY struck me was this:
And it’s not just the youth in The Square, it’s each and every one of them there, young and old. Not to mention the many thousands all across Egypt, all likely easily identified by the 1.5 million or more state security apparatus thugs . . .
Time will tell . . . it’s interesting to watch the Admin’s and MSM’s constant changing dance of being behind it all (late to react), and then trying to disinform it all with their spins galore.
Thanks for all you do.
Link!
Shit. They’re strengthening their position every time he speaks. I think they might actually be trying to force violence, either knowing that the protesters will not become violent, or knowing the international community may look poorly on the protests if violence breaks out.
Also, the shameless appeal to the military is disgusting. “Oh, please be on our side! Hosni’s a hero, remember?”
Do nothing or cut off the aid and publicly support the protesters. Anything else is beyond what can be considered morally appropriate.
This is Egypt’s revolution. We have nothing to do with it. The U.S. cannot and should not have it’s thumb on or in every little thing that happens everywhere.
Assuming we have a role to play there is like assuming that you automatically have a role in the pregnancy of your neighbor down the street. It has nothing to do with us, except that they want our representatives in their government to take a hike.
I try and think like people and use their logic to predict what they will do next I don’t have a clue how Obama will win an election by going to colleges saying legalize pot when there are no jobs for college grads.
I don’t see African Americans after 4 years of no jobs being motivated by that either. I see no logic not even the logic of conclusions based on hate and lies that the GOP has going for them.
I see confusion.
Hammer meets nail…
Great post Jane.
Thank you.
We need an Egypt redo in the USA
“They could do alot” doesnt really answer the question. And any action on the part of US could be viewed as the US corrupting the process. Either Obama does alot and taints the process or misses the mark that the protestors are fight for thus calling into question the credibility of the new goverment or he does little and is viewed as not doing enough.
History shows that any incumbent has an overwhelming chance of winning reelection. The economy would have to take a big turn for the worse for Obama to be seriously threatened.
All of this stuff is playing around the margins of what happens with the economy, though. That will be the big determinant.
If the administration had adopted a hands off approach from the beginning that would have hung Mubarak out to dry. His new bffs, the Chamber of Commerce, and his corporate masters would have been very upset at possibly losing tons of money in Egypt, which may now happen anyway. I’m very encouraged by the number of people who turned out today.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda . . . cat’s long out of the bag, genie’s out of the bottle.
Reality is we were, are and will be involved.
End of ‘what if’s’ story.
One of the greatest revolutions of modern times, inspiring millions with hope, and Obama throws his support behind one of Mubarak’s thugs.
I won’t be voting for Obama in 2012.
S. is playing the it’s us or chaos card. The millions of demonstrators in more than four large cities have repeated over and over again that the change which they are demanding is the entire regime. Not one person or the next person, but instead they see the whole crony capitalism/cum totalitarian government as needing to transform. They are not waiting to have a dialogue with people whom they have declared are illegitimately holding power by virtue of a constitution which the people no longer recognize as valid. But you knew that! :)
I think Obama is going to shift into ultra-liberal mode. He’ll trumpet legalization, a public option, enshrining a woman’s right to choose, bringing our troops home, progressive tax rates. All of which will fall squarely on the side of bullshit. He’s just hoping that if he talks loud enough nobody will hear the Republicans, and the Democrats who have been paying attention, calling him a liar.
Sandmonkey’s of the Left ™ lol
I hope that Jane is right about AIPAC’s influence on our national politics being more tenuous than at any time in recent memory becoz it is obscene that so many of our politicians put Israel’s interests above our own. And the u.s. politicians that most eagerly acquiesce to AIPAC are some of this country’s most damaging.
Z
I’m encouraged by the turnout every day. Especially on a day like today. However, Suleiman just entrenched the government’s position even more. There is no international consensus on what should or shouldn’t happen, and the media is starting to lose interest and spin the story.
I fear that the revolution, without international attention, will be stamped out. With violence.
It’s not like I was directly answering a hypothetical question…or anything. Did you even bother to read what I responded to? Didn’t think so.
We Are All Foul Mouthed Bloggers Now!
And now with Suez dock workers on strike, the elite businessfolk who prop up Mubarak and Suleiman are shitting bricks. They’re going to have to move fast, and bloodily, to suppress the strike or all hell truly breaks loose.
it doesn’t hurt that any apparent opposition is batshit crazy either
although Hunstsman is an intriguing possibility – wonder if it will be genuine viability or vanity if he runs
Personally, I’m not feeling much enthusiasm for primarying Obama. I used to feel like we could work within the Democratic Party and change it back to a more progressive/liberal party. I no longer believe that’s possible.
We need what’s happening in Egypt to happen here, but things still aren’t bad enough for the American people to stop feeling complacent. Though I’ve heard the unemployment rate in Egypt when the protests began were the same as it is here – is there any truth to that rumor?
Until Americans are ready to go out and do something (not just whine online) we’re not going to overturn the corporate coup de tat that ousted democracy nearly a generation ago.
Can we get that on the membership cards?
Mz. Hamsher it WILL be interesting to see if the ‘incumbent theory’ plays out in ’12.
Economy is an issue, readily agreed, but JOBS are bigger than economy amongst the voting masses, not to mention housing, healthcare, etc.
We have three failed and hugely costly wars in Iraq, Afghan, Pakistan . . .
We have at LEAST two huge blown up CIA capers involving Mr. Davis and his recent exploits, and David Headley’s exploits (purportedly ran the Mumbai Bombing crews via CIA leads).
Both of those capers encompass a duplicity of lies and falsehoods and gobs of disinformation, but are likely tied to India/Pakistan/Tibet issues, aside from the Al Queda/Talibani memes . . . with oil and gas resources and transit pipelines in the region being a real key focus around it all . . .
There’s a whole lot of bad juju comin down on Oama’s tenure at WH.
We live in increasingly frantic and interesting times . . . ;-)
Yes!!!
Hey where in the world is bmaz?
Sandmonkey…Filipino monkey…
There is something about the “monkey” that brings out the best in bmaz and protesters.
Deleted by Larue.
interesting that the folks constantly wagging their fingers about oppression of women . . . fail to include any gurls on their list :D
esp, foul mouthed fem bloggers™ Mona Eltahawy, Zenobia, or Dima Khatib
Only in the US is the revolution story losing traction. Most Americans are now waiting for the dancing girls to make an appearance.
BBC
GlobalPost
Mosaic
The Independent (home of Robert Fisk, bless his heart)
Just a sampling lest I get carried away.
Interesting post. Gotta go teach, but I hope to come back and comment in a few hours. I’ll think about all those young Egyptian kids, with so much at stake, when I look at my college students today.
Very nice commentary. I agree, and I’ve also posted on FDL that the protesters face grim prospects (detention, torture, death) if they do not prevail against the establishment in Egypt. They are very courageous in their efforts, knowing the consequences.
Re Obama and the youth vote? I don’t see it. Traditionally youth do not vote in great numbers. The last presidential election had a lot of fizz and sparkle around the Obama candidacy. Won’t happen the second time around. Same with others, such as the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party, and leftists/liberals/progressives. Obama can likely count on African-Americans, but they, too, tend not to vote in great numbers.
I think Obama still wins in 2012. Only because the GOP has such an incredibly weak field; otherwise, BO would be a pretty good target for the Republicans.
one_outer said, “Assuming we have a role to play there is like assuming that you automatically have a role in the pregnancy of your neighbor down the street. It has nothing to do with us, except that they want our representatives in their government to take a hike.”
Our government should stay out of the affairs of Egypt, but because our gov’t is run by corporations and the corp’s are invested in Egypt, our gov’t will act to save them their $$ by interfering in their politics and if they can’t, we taxpayers will foot the bill.
Barack or Mo’barack … the perception is there’s no difference and nobody wants to be dic-tatr_trolled (chronological order):
Just a final word… Pickens was on the Daily Show recently and John noted his energy plan was a bit behind schedule. Pickens stated it would catch up soon.
Hmmm…
Just a note folks…cars can be converted to run on compressed natural gas (GNG) and if the need was created (fuel supplies interrupted or reduced) this could happen extremely fast.
Gosh, now who could benefit like crazy from a “crisis need” for compressed gas as fuel?
Someone gets a positive sum out of this potentially.
Shorter dic-tatr economics: All Things Fake Including Food
Last comment on Obama’s reelection: whether friend or foe, everyone knows he talks out of both sides of his mouth and really can’t be trusted, so this might tamp down any enthusiasm he’s counting on during the campaign season. The thrill is gone.
Repulsion
thrillOf course. The implication of discussing the “should be” counterfactual is exactly that.
I quote Matt Taibbi: “Fuck the business community.”
What an insightful article.
While AIPAC’s heft in Washington is a given by most who pay attention, analyzing Obama’s political strategy in the context of Israel’s wishes and Obama’s attempt to effectively neutralize any blowback (“they made me do it”–ha) from social media young folks is brilliant.
agreed
I think something which is probably being discussed by growing numbers of people (above and beyond those who already thought it) around the world is the following:
Why does the United States always have so much power and influence over OUR country?
“The DNC pursued a risky GOTV strategy in 2010: instead of turning out likely midterm voters, they focused on 2008 surge voters”.
Somebody or some group of people above Obama’s pay grade (the faceless Oligarchy?) wanted a Republican House. Pursuing the corporate agenda with a Democratic super majority was awkward. Unseemly. Embarrassing.
The Democrats threw the election.
In boxing news:
Lefty Kablowski pursued a risky strategy last night when he stood flat footed with his hands hanging at his sides………..
I believe in you Jane. But I no longer believe in Democrats or Republicans. They are partners in crime.
I keep thinking the election was thrown to give Obama cover for some upcoming decisions. I was about to pull out the timfoil hat, so I am pleased to see others thinking the same.
No no, you two are not alone. The Republicans were allowed to take over the house through Democratic action over the last 2 years. This all had a purpose. I believe the Republican house is to run cover and interference over the next two years.
And the next step will be: smearing the demonstrators and anything that may starts to look like leadership, to justify the need for clamping down on them.
Listening to Al Jazeera now. El Baredei now being smeared as a “stooge of Iran.”
The diplomatic sleight of hand here is that the refusal of a future Egyptian government to cooperate with Israel in keeping Gaza an open air criminal prison camp is being painted as wanting Egypt to break the peace treaty with Israel.
Suleiman really is equal parts Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush with a dash of Muslim Brotherhood Christian Coalition equivalent thrown in for good fear factor.
There is a constitutional path forward: Suleiman is made to resign. Mubarak appoints Mohamed El Baradei as vice president and resigns. Problem solved.
-marc
It is probably just a matter of time before the vast majority of Americans finally realize that Democratic and Republican candidates alike do not represent the interests of “the people”. Voting for either legacy party is a vote for the corporate, wealthy elite. Even a continued onslaught of propaganda by the MSM in favor of “the few” will eventually be viewed as just that…propaganda…as the reality of everyday life becomes increasingly more difficult for the majority.
Although that type of “action” works in the U.S. where far too many citizens show greater concern for who is winning “American Idol” than what is happening to the citizens of the country, it may just backfire in Egypt.
Stooge? Well, he was smart enough to catch a fake when he saw it and our intel was not.
I’m sorry, who is a stooge? /s
El Baredei is neither being controlled nor an idiot.
Hello, Jane
Some of the people in our office have worked with campaigns trying to get African Americans re-elected statewide, they all say, it is not going to be easy for OBAMA.
Everyone wants to ignore the two big 100,000 pound Elephants sitting in the ROOM, one is name the Economy and the other is name African American. Either one of these Elephants could end Obama re-election hopes.
Obama knows this, David Ploufe knows this,
Obama is making a lot of mistakes, the idea of trying to make OBAMA Clinton is CRAZY.
the more OBAMA moves to the right, the easier he will be to beat.
Clinton could get a couple of GOP votes, OBAMA will not get one GOP vote.
Clinton was called slick for a reason, Obama is not slick, thus his punching hippies will cause him a lot of trouble.
Plus the political landscape OBAMA will face in 2012, is going to be un-like anything we have seen before.
I agree. We need a Labor Party. Where are the unions when you need them?
Thank you, Jane. The faces are so important, and with just these three I am still crying even after reading the comments above mine. I far rather identify with the mothers of these beautiful sons than with the mothers of our misdirected military that the PBS Newshour likes to show us all kitted out in their uniforms of warfare. All due respect to them and to the mothers who grieve for them, but it is our national shame that we continue to insist on their mindless destruction, holding them up as examples to our youth.
I very much fear Obama knows well he has lost the youth, those who actually are motivated enough to vote for what they can believe in. It is up to the rest of us to demonstrate to them that what they believed in 2008 is real, and these beautiful young Egyptians certainly do that better than any inspiring speech.
There is an excellent essay at counterpunch.org by Tarecq M. Amar that is titled “The Egypt Endgame.” In it, the author refers to Egypt’s protests as ‘the Nile Uprising.’ I think that is a beautiful name for what is happening.
My prayers are with the 300 plus families of the 300 plus who have fallen. These are soldiers and martyrs in the very best sense of both appellations.
I don’t see the economy being better than it is now in 2012. I believe it will be worse. Considerably worse. I’m having trouble imagining why anyone would vote for Obama, except the rich, and they will vote Republican unless Palin or Bachman is the candidate.
I’m pretty happy, actually. Gibbs was just on TV smacking down Suleiman for saying Egypt “isn’t ready for democracy.”
I have no doubt they’re responding to a variety of influences in an extremely volatile situation. But the big arbiter for Obama is always going to be how thing impact the 2012 election. And so far, while far from superlative, their response has been a good deal better than we would have seen from George Bush, and certainly much more responsive to public opinion than Clinton’s early BFF Mubarak language promised.
Go Twitter.
I hate to comment without reading all comments, but this post articulates my woozy sense of what’s been happening. And:
Agree with the entire post, but wanted to highlight these bits and also add a few data points:
Over half of Egypt’s population is under 30 years old; in other words, most of the population is prime childbirth years. They were born post-Reagan, into the world of climate shifts. The conventional Cold War was winding down as they were born – particularly those under age 20 (born after 1990).
The population density of Cairo is about 44 people/sq/mile: in other words, lots of people who don’t grow their own food supplies. (Over 40% of Washington State’s wheat crop goes to Egypt, FWIW.)
The guardian.uk has reported in the past week that the Mubarak family is assumed to be worth around $70 Billion – yeah, BILLION. So about a billion bucks he’s creamed off for every million of his countrymen, give or take.
The integrity, dignity, and principle shown by that 30-year old Google exec, whose wife wanted to divorce him for spending too much time at the keyboard, and whose greatest insult was being called a ‘traitor’ simply for wanting his nation to emerge from the cesspool of degradation, is another new wrinkle.
No way on this planet that Obama, let alone Netanyahu (!), nor anyone else can explain how a 30-year-old Google exec is held blindfolded for days on end, his family doesn’t have a clue where he is, and Mubarak (age 82) and Sulieman (in his 70s) play their shell games.
Sad for AIPAC, but the demographic, social, and cultural shifts are against them. It’s not rocket science.
Whether I personally like those facts, or don’t like them, is entirely beside the point. It’s like watching the weather; you can’t change it, but you’re really stupid if you fail to note a cyclone on the horizon.
This post strikes me as superlative ‘political meteorology’.
FWIW, excellent video with English subtitles of the interview with the Google exec are now up at both NYT and guardian.uk. You may want to have kleenex handy before watching. If it doesn’t move you, then you must have a heart of stone.
Absolutely.
Whoa Nelly…
Washington promises no change to US-Israeli relations
Back from teaching the morning away, thinking about Jane’s post. I’m more in agreement with your comment, workingclass, than with Jane’s premise that somebody in the Democratic Party had an actual strategy going for 2010. AIPAC’s not about to turn its back on the Blue Dogs, and is not going to support Obama any more in 2012 than they supported Carter in 1980. That was already in the works before this social media aspect of Tunisia and Egypt was made into a hot topic.
Jane’s premise that young people will figure importantly in 2012 may have important validity, though, and its something I fervently hope for. They are the key to Middle East peace. The most reassuring things to me about the Egypt rebellion have been the faces, voices, ideas and hopes of the many young people shown on almost all the networks’ coverage.
I spend a lot of time at blogs that think AIPAC is about to be put in its place. I’m about to debate the Alaska head of AIPAC on BDS in Alaska. I may or may not win that debate, but AIPAC is a long, long way from out of the picture. Until we see 60 congressmen/women or 25 Senators vote against an AIPAC-written resolution, speculating on their demise or waning is premature. Still, we need to press on, and it’s good to see Jane so heartily aboard.
My sentiments exactly…! 8-)
You say:
They did have a strategy. I didn’t make it up. The DNC’s plan to turn out surge voters in 2010 is something that has been well documented since Tim Kaine announced it in April last year:
The “risky strategy” link above goes to this post on Hotline about the controversy it caused:
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/10/the_dncs_risky.php
Hamsher: “And this time he won’t be able to blame it on the need for 60 votes.”
Ouch! That’s gonna leave a bruise. And a well-deserved one at that. :o)
“I believe it will be worse.”
Me, too, Mason. In fact, anyone who thinks we’ll see a turnaround ought to enlighten us as to how it’s going to happen.
Trickle down won’t do it. That governmental philosophy is what got us here. In fact, you could make a case that since Obama has been at such pains to sustain it, it’s only fair that he take responsibilty for perpetuating it.
Plus, any optimism runs right into that little mid-term reality about Barack Obama now being a wholly-owned subsidiary of the republican party.
What are they going to let him do that will enhance his chance at a second term?
Jane, thanks for emphasizing the link between Egyptian and U.S. politics. More analysis along these lines is needed. At the same time, I seriously question the following:
I just don’t see what you’re basing this on. The endgame will depend on the Egyptian Army – all ranks of the Army – and I see absolutely no reason to believe that Obama has enough leverage to sway even the generals, let alone the lower-level commanders and the rank and file, on a question as fundamental as who will run their country. Yes, I know Egypt gets a mind-boggling amount of military aid from the USA, but I just can’t see an Egyptian general saying to himself: “Well, I’d really rather have a democratic government in this country, but I guess I’ll have to go along with Suleiman so we can get next year’s shipment of M-1 tanks on schedule.”
My read: this is truly out of U.S. control. We’re seeing the Empire reach the limits of its power.
Great post.
But I don’t know why after all that you say you’re pretty happy. I’d give Obama a D for his handling of this crisis.
Obama is perfectly capable of doing the worst possible thing for the people of Egypt and really the people of the world. We hold his inspiration to do the right thing but, we as a people are not willing to get off our butts and march…not even for ourselves, our livelihoods, our children’s and grandchildren’s livelihoods and freedoms. Okay time to hit SUBMIT COMMENT and pretend I done something.
People. You know it in your hearts. It is getting to the point when taking to the streets must happen or everything but, the top 5% will be consider human and worthy. We have the numbers but not the will of people who value freedom of anything more than changing the channel on the TV or watching You Tube or whatever…
AIPAC is a cancer in this country.
Obama is a lackey of the status quo. He hasn’t even cut off foreign aid yet. He should be ready to declare that the US no longer recognizes the legitimacy of the Mubarak/Suleiman regime, but he won’t ever do that. He has no principles.
Did you mean to say “being renominated” where you said “winning reelection”? Daddy Bush, Carter and Ford were defeated by bad economies. If the unemployment rate isn’t below 8% in 20 months, I think it is very likely Obama is a one-term president.
There is no possible way that the unemployment rate will drop below 8% before the election. Millions of people exhausting their unemployment insurance and cycling off the charts into the disappeared and uncounted 99ers, but that doesn’t really reduce unemployment. The actual unemployment rate today exceeds 20% and Obama not only doesn’t have a plan to create jobs, he isn’t even working on one.
I sympathize with you and am just as angry but the truth is we don’t have the numbers. There’s a reason why Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are multi-millionaires and Amy Goodman has to broadcast from a glorified basement. Liberals should be doing what the Tea Party is doing. Protesting, causing trouble, etc. If the last three years aren’t enough to make this country more liberal nothing will.
I’d like to call this familiar Obama strategy (“He’ll engineer one of those “make me do it” moments”)…
“the Obama two-step”
(a strategy whereby you claim to support an initiative while secretly undermining it, either by a) proposing legislation/action whose failure you are choreographing behind the scenes, or b) passing legislation/action that in effect defeats what you’re claiming victory for.)
Thanks for the link. I remember hearing some OFA kids talking about that and laughing a lot. If some sort of DNC action tied to that was supposed to play out in Alaska after our August primary, it was well hidden. But we were written off by them from the beginning, for good reason – as you already know.
Obama may be playing Good Cop at the moment, but the electoral calculation theory assumes that the youth vote he would lose over Egypt outweighs the Israel vote+money that he would lose over Egypt.
I don’t think those two constituencies have remotely equivalent weight or power.
Obvious issues aside, it’s also the case that the kind of young person that would hang on the net checking out the democratic revolution in real time is a highly rarified creature, even on 4-year campuses.
Obama is going to lose the youth vote to lack of enthusiasm because of the job market and the failures of his economic team that created that job market.
It’s already a done deal. Obama is burnt toast.
Here we go, in today’s news–community college dean reports no politics on campus:
“I overhear a fair amount of student conversation, just walking the hallways and occasionally eating in the cafeteria.
Words I haven’t heard: Egypt, Mubarek, Obama, oil, revolution, war.
Words I have heard: class, facebook, job, work, girlfriend, assorted cursing
Admittedly, this is an unscientific sample, and far from comprehensive. Somewhere, someone may be having an earnest, searching discussion of, say, American foreign policy. But I haven’t seen or heard it.”
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“somewhere under the surface — maybe online? — students are having passionate political debates. If that’s all it is, then I happily plead guilty to oblivousness and creeping fogeyism. But I don’t get that impression. Instead, I suspect that the disconnect from politics is either class-based or generational, and I’m not sure which is worse. If it’s class-based, then I expect the one-sided class warfare of our politics to get even worse over time, with tragic consequences. If it’s generational, and even the rich kids can’t be bothered, then I don’t know what will hold up the system. Yes, 2008 supposedly featured an unusually high youth voter turnout, but I haven’t seen any signs of actual political engagement since then.”
http://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/confessions_of_a_community_college_dean/conversations_i_never_hear
Oh for crying out loud. Now you’re just making shit up.
Yeah, but once you’ve observed enough you can start to predict the future.
I’m backing that prediction–with a caveat: Obama will be the figure head in front of those who install the dictator. But install the dictator he will, while calling it a “democratic transition.”
Just like “financial reform” and “healthcare reform” and the “middle east ‘peace’ process.”
You’re also assuming that most politically engaged young people will be sympathetic to democratizing Egypt, but you can’t assume that:
http://nymag.com/nymetro/urban/education/features/10868/
Where have I seen this all before? Yes, The American Civil Rights Movement, where Americans where killed trying to assist people exercising their constitutional rights. Where innocent children where blown to hell by a bunch of racist pieces of shit, while attending Sunday School. Yup, the US government is a real stand up entity. Just wait till the guns, paid for by American taxpayer dollars, are turned on the Egyptians and their children are killed. Nothing will save Suleiman from decapitation for the Egyptian people will die in droves to exact revenge, rightfully so!
Where have I seen this all before?
I was thinking of Chile.