Toby Harnden at the Telegraph says John King says that Gibbs got the boot because Daley didn’t want him around:
It’s being reported by John King on CNN right now that Gibbs wanted to be a presidential counsellor – something he’s been putting about for quite a while – but William Daley, the new chief of staff, nixed this because he believed that too many cooks would spoil the presidential broth. So that’s why Gibbs is out.
I think I was one of the first to report on the pending White House shake-up back on December 9 on MSNBC, and again on FDL on December 20:
The President is supposedly working behind the scenes with Pete Rouse to clean house after the first of the year. It’s rumored that Gibbs will be gone (hard to see how he can stay, after the President treated him like a garden gnome in front of Bill Clinton and the New York Times). Likewise Patrick Gaspards and the rest of the political team.
But you didn’t have to be exceptionally wired in to see that the President had lost confidence in Gibbs. That NY Times piece on the Obama/Clinton press conference was painful to read:
The leader of the free world and the ex-leader wandered a deserted hallway, past the offices of the senior advisers, only to discover the door to the press corps briefing room locked.
Had it not been, Mr. Obama and Mr. Clinton might have discovered only a few reporters milling about or catching a few minutes of sleep. Instead, they turned around and found a junior staffer sitting outside of the office of Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary.
“Do you know how to open up the briefing room?” Mr. Obama asked the staffer, Katie Hogan.
“Yeah,” Mr. Clinton said, “can you help us unlock it?”
Hearing that, Mr. Gibbs walked out.
“I said, ‘what are you guys up to?’” Mr. Gibbs recalled later. “President Obama said, ‘we’re looking for some reporters.’”
“What have you guys got on your mind,” Mr. Gibbs –- always cautious — countered.
The two presidents told Mr. Gibbs that they had been talking about the controversial tax compromise that Mr. Obama had reached with Republicans and wanted Mr. Clinton to make a few remarks.
President Obama decides to give a spur-of-the-moment press conference. With Bill Clinton. If the door to the briefing room had been unlocked, they would have walked right in and started talking to reporters without even letting Gibbs know.
But because the briefing room is locked, they stick their heads into his office. Obama asks a junior staffer to unlock the room for them. Not Gibbs. The only reason Gibbs even knows about it is because he overhears them, and comes out of his office to ask about what’s happening.
This is Gibbs’ job. Obama totally humiliates him in front of Clinton and the junior staffer, and treats him like he’s completely superfluous to the process of holding a rather significant press conference.
That was on December 10. Now it’s entirely possible that Obama had already settled on the choice of Daley at that point, and Daley had nixed Gibbs. But you didn’t have to be the Amazing Kreskin to see that the President had lost confidence in Gibbs, and that isn’t a relationship a President wants to have with his Press Secretary.
I’m hearing that the two top candidates to replace Gibbs are Jay Carney and Stephanie Cutter. Carney may have the inside track because they want a Tony Snow — someone the press corps will be more reluctant to criticize because they view him as one of their own. But the campaign team knows that the White House has some fence mending to do with women, and having a woman as the face of the administration may help them on that front — especially if Harnden is right, and Jarrett is going to get her “wings clipped.”





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Personally I don’t see a lot of difference between Daley and Emanuel. If anything Daley is more right wing than Emanuel but all three, Obama, Daley and Emanuel would have called themselves “Republican” in any other venue than Chicago in my opinion. I’m certain that Gibbs just got in the way.
…and Gibbs wasn’t exacly a progressive, either. This administration is not what it proported to be during the elections.
Daley is smarter than Rahm he knows better than to seek attention notice that despite decades of corruption as Mayor’s of Chicago his Dad and brother have never been indicted of anything.
Chicago Aldermen. the Mob Illinois Dems and GOPers have all been indicted for just about everything the idea da Mayor doesn’t know whats going on is not even offered as an excuse.
If anything fear Daley more than Rahm.
None of us will shed tears over Gibbs departure but I would hate to be the press secretary for an administration that is more secretive than the Kremlin. Obama is apparently paranoid about anything getting out.
john king as a reporting source = david gregory.
BO has crashed the press room more than once while gibbs was talking.
He has been in the President’s circle for 6 or 7 years, though when you observe how gibbs was treated like a gnome, that could be seen as a squeeze play.
I really don’t think daley ‘forced’ anything. I agree that it will probably be jay carney to replace gibbs. He will just punch hippies with different gloves.
Good thread, Jane.
Obama may be canning some people now, but by this time next year, I’m thinking there’ll be staffers leaving in droves.
Of course, it’ll be spun as anoter “re-organization”, but the hawserlines will be busy, however it’s called.
Gibbs being forced out is good for Obama he pisses off the Left now Obama just needs to get rid of his economic team. Is the firring of Gibbs a sign Obama might in order to save his own hide be thinking of changing direction?
Window dressing won’t do it he needs concrete action he needs to give us something to rally upon he needs a show of strength.
Or he can go back home to Chicago knowing he has destroyed the hope of any African American ever being President again for a decade or more.
Even then the next African American will run as Not Another Obama. Don’t believe me look at the GOPers run from Bush no GOPer running for President will run as wanting to bring back the good old days of Bush.
Reagan was their last President they can brag about and how many young voters were even alive when Reagan was in office?
WOW, this is some great information about how OBAMA operates behind the scenes
What did Gibbs do to piss off King Obama?
Personally I think press secretaries, the very face of politics that they are, are like diapers. They have to be changed because the stink in the press room just gets to be too closely associated with their individual personae; being a professional diversionist and outright liar takes it’s toll on even the slickest operators.
Analyzing the departure of one seems like a complete waste of time to me, but that’s just my own not-so-humble opinion. Jane is the ultimate hound dog (I mean that in a nice way) and so maybe there is something here. I’ll stay tuned.
Jeez…I’d hate the be the press secretary for such a sucky administration, period. Although, Bush would have been worse.
I wondered about (but didn’t click on) that “garden gnome” reference when I read it back in December, and from then on I noticed that Gibbs had the look of someone who has been given notice.
So, what exactly was it that caused Obama to write him off?
How much difference will these personnel changes make? Maybe the P.R. and “look and feel” will become more sophisticated but we will still get the same bankster oriented executive branch that does nothing for the American citizens.
I am glad Mr. Gibbs is gone but I am equally suspicious of anyone Obama appoints. I feel like an old grump.
Jane, according to your analysis, Daley had nothing to do with Gibbs leaving. I think you are right. Gibbs has been on the chopping block for a while.
This is all prep for 2012. And, be ready for Obama the middleman. FDL followers will be tossed to the side of the road while Obama tries to recover independents he’s lost.
I think his basic outlook is, “Being a progressive President is ideal, but being President is more important than being progressive. so, when the lifeboat approaches and there is only room for one, I’ll say a prayer for you Progressive.”
Any ideas how the Washington Tea Leaf readers are saying about this and what this means? In Chicago a Daley coming in means big business will get what ever they want so long as they are loyal and pay.
This might not be bad Obama has been bending over to the GOP way to much rewarding the loyal would be a step in the right direction.
Plus the Daleys have more sense to run a corrupt business than Bush or Obama they know they have to pick up the trash, plow the snow in the streets or they won’t get elected.
Bush/Obama seem to think fear and photo ops alone can do the job.
No way in hell. Obama is very happy with his “Third Way” approach to governing, and his choice of Rahm’s mentor, Bill Daley, to replace Rahm and Sperling to replace Summers shows that he intends to stay the course, and shift a bit more to the right to make up for his loss of the left.
I’m guessing that Obama scapegoated Gibbs for the November Shellacking. “It was a failure to communicate, not a bad record, that cost the Dems.”
Gibbs and Rahm were the biggest faces in the WH with the limp wristed punch the hippies try and look tough, try and Sister Souljah the Left to give Obama Cred with Moderates camp.
Now the President’s Poll numbers are around 50%and they are both gone.
“The sight of men whispering together in small knots or speaking in subdued tones points to disaffection among the rank and file”
Art of War Sun Tzu
the Titantic Obama has leaks, it should because it is sinking.(Obama is probably furious at the notion this is getting out)
“Jr. Dem senators attack Sr. Dem senators today for chairmanships.” (Harry Reid knows he has problems within his ranks)
the winds of the ANGRY LEFT ARE BLOWING COLD air across DC.
Gibbs said the following today
“But in an interview in his large corner office in the West Wing, outgoing press secretary Robert Gibbs pushed back against the conventional wisdom that the president is suddenly moving to the political center, setting himself up for a re-election campaign that’s focused on moderate voters, leaving liberals out in the cold.”
Gibbs you still are a little slow, THE LEFT IS LEAVING OBAMA IN THE COLD!
the Left does not need OBAMA, Obama needs the Left. :)
And tonight when Oregon kicks the shit out of Gibbs’ Alma Mater it will be icing on the cake.
I think that if Obama were really contemplating a move to the left, the signal for it would have been to pick a Chief-of-Staff who doesn’t look like a Bush appointee.
Trying to be hopeful WigWam if Gibbs and Rahm leaving don’t signal that Obama is not changing direction if this is all window dressing then I keep looking for a Primary candidate to run against Obama in the Dem Primary or a third party candidate in the general election.
Obama can’t win on but, but Sarah Palin will be worse. Why because Obama you are not enough to get the job done and if Sarah wins I leave.
America was built by immigrants who had stupid leaders at home and couldn’t take it anymore.
America will be Undone when more People Leave than want to come to this country.
that game is Monday night :D
tonight is LSU vs A&M at Cotton Bowl
Among others.
BUT, even if Daley doesn’t tell wimmin to f*ck themselves, ain’t gonna happen.
Daley’s are evil but competent like Nixon even Fitz never could lay a hand on his brother no Fed ever touched the Father.
But the Daley Machine ran on loyalty based on people holding city jobs. Obama won’t create jobs so Daley can’t save him.
It looks like the oligarchy is cleaning house and Obama is powerless to do anything about it. Or maybe he requested that they do it. In any event if you like the fascist state as it currently exists than you’re really gonna love the hard-assed brand of fascism that’s coming our way. Peace
To your point Margaret, Howard Dean was absolutely not a fan of Emanuels’ or his “Plan” for Democrats, but does thinks Daley would be a “huge plus” to and on the WH gang. I have never known Dean to let Dems down, so I’m willing to give Daley a try.
On Janes’s piece, surely Gibbs has felt Obama’s arrogance before the Clinton episode.
King is just pulling stories out of his rear and/or is being fed the story in order for us ‘of the Left’ to think Gibbs is leaving because he’s now an unhappy Obama soldier.
I say that’s bullshit.
I’ll bet anything Gibbs is out of the WH solely to work behind the scenes to undermine and counter our displeasure with Obama before the 2012 election.
They’re worried many of us might find another candidate.
And guess what? They’d be damn right.
Mussolini was competent too. Hell he forced the trains to run on time. Peace
Obama, David Axelrod, Jarrett, Gibbs, Plouffe, all know Obama Polls numbers are no where close to 50%
ask all the people lining up to run against Obama in 2012
Donald Trump just jump in today.
Poll Numbers don’t do crap for OBAMA, OBAMA needs energy, and a lot of it.
Obama needs NET ROOT energy, young people energy, hard core liberals, UNIONS, basically the people that got him elected in 2008 or he has no shot.
Obama has kick all these people in the butt.
Maybe Obama can find some of those mythical people they call Centrist to help him win in 2012, who knows.
If Daley got Gibbs gone, that would explain why Dr Dean is so enthusiastic about The Banker. No love lost there, going back to the 2004 campaign when Gibbs headed up (on Kerry’s behalf, iirc) one of the first shadowy 527s that made Dean sound like a smushy peacenik jobs-killer.
Mussolini got the trains to run on time by reprinting the schedules so that the schedules comported with what the trains were already doing.
I thought he did a great job of saying nothing.
I agree with you and after following this site for a while now I am suspicious of everything Obama does. His Neo-Liberal thinking is going to put the finishing touches on our Republic. I don’t comment that often and I am still learning a lot from the long term posters here. This is the only site I get my news and commentary from. I thank you and others for your insight and wisdom.
From Harvard psychologist Martha Stouts book, “The Sociopath Next Door”:
Does this sound like anyone in particular?
We’re glad you are here. Comment often.
He did a terrific job of vilifying the base. Way to go, Gibbs./s
I’m sure that Gibbs will land on his Gucci-clad feet.
Unlike the 5% of the working age population whose jobs seem to have permanently disappeared.
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is up: Krugman Debunks the “Texas Miracle”
Two years in we see the results from the guy who was going to pick the best and brightest for white house appointments. Business insiders with preference to Chicago cronies are the order of the day. Circling the wagons even tighter after only two years speaks volumes about how the administration expects to go forward, or not, as the case may be.
The story about Clinton and Obama hunting for reporters while ignoring everything else beyond the next chance to blow hot air for a few minutes pretty much says it all.
Reminds me of modern legislation in America. :)
Robbed blind? Well let’s make it legal!
That’s good information. I wonder why nobody else ever thought to do that? Mussolini must have been a genius like Hitler and Franco? None of whom would have made a competent American president. Peace
Obama does not have to give us anything. His approval is up 9% with republicans, at this rate he does not need progressives to get elected. If is it not clear before now, that he is a repub, it will be by 2012 and there will be no where for us to go.
Obama campained as center and far left.Obama has worked for center and far right.
Good for you. I read that book and you are so right on. It is scary. And those people tend to go into politics and police work or anything with power.
The Clintons have run the White House since the git-go. The biggest “garden gnome” is Obama. The primaries meant nothing.
Thank you I appreciate it very much.
Tonight is Eastern Washington University vs Delaware. Go Eagles!
You should read what Glenn Greenwald says today about Daley’s appointment and the on-going lack of retribution by the left for Obama’s insolence.
i agree with you
the elites kick progressives butt on this con game in 2008.
hillary clinton was the chosen one
obama was the back up plan if hillary failed
Obama is the only human on the planet earth that beats someone, hires the person that he beats, and then hires the person that he beats friends. :)
Obama’s the only politician in Washington with a D after his name with an approval rating even approaching 50%. I don’t think O is going to see much movement up in approval, but hoping his ship is sinking is idle hoping. The press wants O’s triangulation to work, so it does. He’s not going to lose in 2012; and just about the only question is: will he actually help his party’s undercard at all in that election? And: which progressive congresspeoples’ campaigns will he attempt to sabotage or divert money from?
Lack of retribution ok we can and should do more but still without us Obama is a one term President given his record I can’t make a positive case for him to voters. If no African American gets elected for another decade as President Obama’s place in history is assured.
9% with GOPers? I doubt he can win an election with the GOP vote minus the racists but I admit that does seem to be his plan.
That Jay Carney?! He’s perfect!
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2007/01/17/running_massacre/
I’m breathing a sigh of relief that William Daley was appointed. I’m not up to speed on Democratic insiders, so I thought they were talking about Richie Daley.
From Glenn Greenwald:
Exactly.
Perhaps he does need “us.” He’ll get us because the base loves table scraps. I won’t vote for him, but I’m pretty genuinely a political freak with a brutally hard line. I (and I’d wager a good many folks who frequent this site) am a political Yeti.
Martha Stouts sounds like a woman who’s been unlucky in love.
veteran campaign managers would laugh at your statement for days!
you may be shocked by this next statement the UNDERCARD on the Dem ticket in 2012 will out perform OBAMA big time.
I need you to be sitting down when you hear this, Obama is black. (this is not a racist statement just a fact)
Obama made a huge MISTAKE by not putting a liberal on his staff that understood race relations in USA politics. Obama needed someone on his staff to guide him thru the mine field of politics, Clinton could do things that Obama could not afford to do. FACT
Picture this Simple commercial in 2012
room full of people looking at a TV screen where 2008 Obama says one thing and 2010 Obama says something else.
the image of a black candidate lying to the masses is not going to fly any where in 2012.
the progressives that would fall back in line for CLINTON, will not be there for OBAMA.
Lesson 1101 when dealing with a black candidate never let him or her lie, and by all means never let the lie get caught on video tape.
Lesson 1102 when managing a black candidate never FORGET liberals are your only hope.
Obama probably had 15% chance of getting re-elected anyway.
2012 will be Change election, and Obama will be the one changed
Elites fear, that Dems wanting to run for president will learn what I just told you above, and primary OBAMA
Do you think OBAMA could win a DEM primary against a left leaning candidate?
the elites made a mistake, they now must protect OBAMA from a primary at all cost, because he would lose.
Obama probably knows all of this, this is just the way the cookie crumbles.
No way would I vote for him.
A bit more from Greenwald…
‘By contrast, corporate institutions and Wall Street tycoons will pour their money into Obama’s defeat if he does not show them the proper level of deference and accommodate their policy demands, but will support him (as they did in 2008) if he pleases them.’
This will be neville obama’s undoing. The banksters want to loot as much as they can for the next two years before the economy implodes again.
The republicans have to come up with someone vanilla enough for the msm stenographers to consider favorably as an alternative. Considering the daley appointment is at jamie dimon’s suggestion, should be enough to repulse any liberal.
I was surprised by Dean drinking the koolaid and he withered as rachel pummeled him politely about the support he lent.
This is, and always has, been about the President. He chooses his fig leaves, leiberman, baucus, gibbs, nelson, lincoln or the ladies from maine.
We should now worry about how he will conspire with the republicans to dismantle Social Security.
We were punked by a man who was totally in the pocket of the kleptocracy.
I am totally convinced the people who installed him will replace him with a republican.
Citizen hazmaq:
Yer on ta sumpthin’ there Citizen hazmaq (see emptywheel’s post earlier)…I think the strongest real Democrat with any visability right now is Howard Dean and I think he knows that, ideology aside, Daley is a representative of the bankster wing of the oiligarchy and is a political “doer” who knows whats best for his economic interests. So if Dean and I are correct, Daley will do anything (in the full meaning of that word) to get his political lacky re-elected because the banksters know the the Teaparty stupidity of the old Southwestern wing of the oiligarchy will destroy the castle that the banksters have been puttin together lo these 30 plus years.
I’ve said before that the only way we get any political change and get out of the brankrupting wars is if the banking interests split from the old oil tycoons…ask Richard Nixon and the Viet Nam War generals about what happens when the banks are threatened by your incompetence or stupidity.
Daley is an amoral, corrupt and ruthless asshole who may just play to the popular base of the Democratic Party to avoid another 1968 Democratic Party convention…or at least not alienate it further.
When you watch the corporate media look at how the go out of there way to protect OBAMA from a primary challenge. It is hilarious :)
and think about the following
record un-employment in the USA
un-popular wars
record number of americans on food stamp
record number of americans losing their homes
Obama is going to cut Social Security
Obama is doing a NAFTA type deal with Korea
gas prices going up and may reach $4.00 or 5.00 per gallon
and the MSM wants you to believe that OBAMA is un-beatble? yeah right
ask why is the MSM protecting OBAMA?
it is simple, A REAL PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATE would destroy OBAMA and the PRIMARY and run all over the GOP in the general.
How? ever heard of the TEA PARTY? the Tea Party is the key to progressives taking over the White House and congress in 2012, the Tea Party is going to destroy the GOP.
the elites know this, thus their need to make OBAMA look un-beatable :)
Everyone is jumping on Daley’s old ties to J.P. Morgan and the Clinton Admon. But Dean always looks at the broader picture and has sound reasoning for thinking Daley is better for this narrow minded gang still in the WH:
The 0h-so-careful Mr. Obama attempted to have spur of the moment national press conference on tax policy – a red flag to any Republican, even if they would like what he had to say – and wanted to do so through the voice of the former Democratic president Republicans have most loved to hate since FDR? That dog won’t hunt, which leaves us with a set-up to hang Mr. Gibbs out to dry.
I would say the people “who installed him” really don’t care whether the candidate is presented as “Democratic” or “Republican”…both parties have been bought and paid for. Although “Brand Obama” has been badly tarnished, I suspect he will ONLY be replaced with a more “attractive” candidate to represent their interests if absolutely necessary. If the Republican candidate is “some loser from the past”, you can be sure they want Obama to remain in office. On the other hand, there is always that Republican aristocracy issue which suggests they would want “one of their own” and will bring in Jeb Bush. Let’s face it, President Obama has acted on behalf of the corporate and financial interests first. They know this (the occasional comments in the media indicating otherwise are used to keep the public from looking at the truth of the situation).
Actually, she is a women who treats the victims of the sociopaths.
I second that and will write in a candidate before I would vote for this liar again.
Doesn’t matter folks….returning the same people who were part of the polices that led to the meltdown.Daley & Sperling are back to do more stomping on ordinary people.
This time they are back to setup the theft of social security.
Lessseee… Vetting this corporatist shit because “he’s a grown-up” (whatever the hell THAT means…) and because he doesn’t call progressives “fucking retards” (and I think that’s what Dean is praising Daley for…) is sound reasoning?
I don’t think so, and judging from the righteous piss-off that a lot of good progressives are showing, they don’t either.
Bill Daley HAS to be better than the weasel Rahm Emmanuel. As for Gibbs, he was a TERRIBLE Press Secretary. He’s a much better political hatchet man – like a James Carville – than someone you want handling delicate press relations. I think I lost track of the number of times Gibbs put his foot in his mouth. He’s just too acerbic for that job.
And for the implacable Obama haters, let’s see what Obama has planned. It’s not entirely clear at this point he’s going to sell Democrats down the river. He’s managed to accumulate all this new regulatory authority over the past 2 years – let’s see if he uses it for something productive.
The only thing that could prevent Obama from winning in 2012 is a sour U6. A very real possibility, but not a probability. The only thing that’s going to change the current paradigm of upward-transfer-of-wealth and Democratic duplicity in it is a consistently growing share of white college graduates failing to find work and/or currently employed college graduates losing their jobs. It’s already started, but frankly, not enough white college graduates have felt the pinch. A Republican president in 2012 may hasten this vile status quo (with the further cutting of govt. employees–a huge number of which are filled by college educated white folk).
Interesting story. Must be Gibbs’s revenge.
It would not surprise me to hear that either Obama, Clinton, or Daley wanted Gibbs out. Gibbs has been singularly ineffective at presenting the President’s case. The best way to gauge whether it was Obama’s call or Daley’s call is to see if Bill Burton is appointed press secretary. If Burton isn’t and someone else, maybe someone with a history with Daley is, you know what to think.
Daley is like Rahm but without the temper tantrums and the conceit that he is the world’s expert on DC politics. And he knows the corporate leadership real well.
The question remains as to who is going to do the chief of staff duties–you know, administer the Executive Office of the President.
The only thing that could prevent Obama from winning in 2012 is a sour U6.
not!
read below,
John Hofmeister, the former president of Shell Oil, believes that American consumers could be shelling out 5 dollars for a gallon of gas by 2012. If that actually happens, it is going to absolutely devastate millions of middle class American families.
no PRESIDENT can survive that
your task must be to keep Dems from primarying OBAMA :)
Nice try, a lot of Dems know Obama can beaten easily in a Primary.
I have no desire to see Obama win in 2012. I do think that Obama will win, but I do think it’s going to depend on the rate of employment growth, not on a particular improved figure.
Um, how is JP Morgan’s Daley going to deal with news like this (bold my emphasis)?:
“Personal assistant Emily McMillan stole thousands of pounds from the company after getting into debt buying narcotics from a drug-dealing colleague.
McMillan, 28, used corporate credit cards belonging to senior executives to steal the money.
She then spent it on a friend’s breast enhancement operation, a girls’ holiday in Ibiza and to make a repayment on her brother’s mortgage.
The Old Bailey heard that she began stealing after she fell into debt through taking drugs supplied by a colleague at JP Morgan. She had access to corporate credit cards to make travel and other arrangements on behalf of senior staff. But she was caught after a routine audit and later admitted four counts of fraud and one of theft, totalling £10,633, all committed between March and May last year.” (excerpt from “Drugs ‘readily available’ at JP Morgan,” by Andy Bloxham for the Telegraph (UK), Jan. 7, 2011)
SPOT ON!
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