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Ahhh – it’s all sweet now!

The ghost is not the only one horrified by the brutality of President –edited by mod– megalomaniacal clusterfuck.

The poll now shows 63 percent of the American public opposed to the war, the largest opposition yet from the regular poll. The breakdown showed strong opposition across race, gender, regional and age lines.

End the immoral warz already.

–modnote: please avoid racial tinged putdowns–

Well done firepups. Well freaking done. If I hadn’t followed Jane, Marcy, David, Glenn, etc., all year, I’d say this is the single greatest journalistic work of 2010.

Next to wikileaks.

‘rather I got the ball rolling on that. I wanted to make sure we had the right team for the job, so I asked a friend of mine to find who at Army CID was’

He wanted to make sure “we”. We who? I thought he was doing this alone as a rogue warrior. See this shit gets even more (spooky).

Good point. I missed the forrest for the trees on that one.

Our Secretary of security, Napalitano has gone off to Afghanistan to access the security on the border of Pakistan. What does that mean? Our US security is now moved to foreign borders where the Military is supposed to be. How can that happen?

The seperation of departments of defense is getting thinner. There is nothing domestic about the Paki/Afghan border.

Yes indeedy! Well done Fuego Pupsters!!

Exactly! Why is our domestic security going there instead staying here to oversee the rapescans?

The first question that pops up in my mind is who goes to the trouble to encrypt emails and then agrees to chat on AOL IM of all platforms?

Heh! I was wondering if Manning had to set up an AOL account in order to chat. Normally, one that has the skillz to do what Manning did does not play with AOL.

Yep. There are some glaring conflicts there. And if Manning encrpyted the emails with Lameface’s key, he could’ve just forwarded the key to Lameface. Would’ve been safer than AIM.

Has Bradley Manning admitted anything? And isn’t he charged under Uniform Code of Military Justice? UCMJ does not have the same rights as civilian law. As a former Marine I remember my drill instructor saying to us recruit…”Give your soul to Gog because your ass belongs to me.” We were GI issue.

The charge is what we are also trying to figure out. He hasn’t been charged with a crime that I know of.

who goes to the trouble to encrypt emails and then agrees to chat on AOL IM of all platforms?

Oh yeah. That’s a brilliant strategy…

Apparently, they’ve just gone global along with the DEA.

I’ve been telling folks this when they talk about Manning’s rights. I’m not conversant in the UCMJ, but I know he’s governed by those laws specifically, not the Civilian codes.

I think that’s what makes his indefinite detention “legal” without being charged.

So once you went to them they didn’t ever say if you could find this out from him that would be great? If you could find that out from him we’d really appreciated it? They knew that you were continuing to talk to him but they never asked you to see if you could discover anything that would help them?

Yeah, that one sounds too much like bullshit to me.

That’s just a way for us to confiscate Afghan heroin for additional US profiteering.

Right? Let me encrypt my emails that you need a password to access but chat on a platform that anybody who knows my email address can see. WTF?

Yep. I guess some of those US Prime Ministers, er Puppets, need some security. Hey, you think that Bush Sr and Dick went over for a look too?

LAMO: No, I didn’t provide the logs until it was apparent that they were actually interested in a prosecution. I wasn’t aware of their intentions until Manning was already in custody.
GREENWALD: And it was only at that point that you gave them the logs? The never asked for the logs along the way?
LAMO: That’s correct.

Again, that’s bullshit.

Lameface – I’ve been LOLing with this guy who’s got these diplomatic cables. Wanna see?

Army – No thanks.

Total BS.

Moooo! How would they have anything to use to prosecute if they didn’t have the logs? Somebody needs to put him on a truth serum drip.

Yup. Like I said, a brilliant strategy. I would expect nothing less… heh

What I would like to know is how the USG has any freaking clue who did this, if they didn’t have the logs and didn’t have a confession?

Assange has stated multiple times that the Wikileaks upload platform is designed to be completely anonymous. He couldn’t find out who gave him the documents if he tried. So how the hell did the Army CID people know who did it?

This all comes down to Lameface’s credibility. And he has absolutely none. He’s a convicted felon, a primadonna, a thief and a liar. Our government is torturing a man into insanity based on the word of a fame-mongerring liar.

I’d be surprised if that were true. Being in a military court is different from a civilian court, but I doubt that gives the military carte blanche. We are a constitutional democracy or at least we were. If the Supremes can rule an act of congress unconstitutional, I can’t see where they’d have a problem saying the military went too far. There won’t be a better case than this to test limits. That’s why I think Manning’s counsel should consider habeus corpus.

Recall British MP, Bob Ainsworth’s just recently called for ‘legalizing and regulating drugs, stating the “prohibition has failed to protect us,” and calling the war on drugs a failure.’ (excerpt from Jon Walker’s “UK’s Former Defense Secretary Calls for End to Drug Prohibition” from Dec. 16, 2010)? We know the petro-drug-precious_metals manipulators are freaking. End the international “War on Drugs” and take a bite out of crime.

I’m with you. It seems regulation and taxation benefits everyone far more than prohibition. We have historical support for this and the only people arguing against the change are the people who stand to profit from the status quo.

Jeebus. Lamo’s case…his entire case seems to be based on speculation of what he thought Manning’s motive was, what he thought might have been in the documents and how he speculated it might affect US foreign policy. Greenwald’s right. This guy is just a narcissist and a patsy.

exactly, and who is the “we” that Lamo keeps referring to? From what I’ve seen the cables were not really top-top secret anyway. If a private had access to them, they would not be supposedly critical natl. security stuff anyways. My opinion only, but it was just that the stuff was there, not released and not seen before.

Plus, Lamo seems to be working with a crew to set up Manning. Cause, that sucker doesn’t look like he could fight his way out of a three sided box with his laptop. If his is a hacker and stumbled upon Manning, then he was intentionally hacking US Government info. Now, it looks like he was being helped along by somebody on the Government payroll.

Seems pretty unbelievable that Lamo would tell Manning ‘brb’ going to have a smoke, keep talking. Then Manning waits.

I’ve read similar comments, but they’re based on a misunderstanding: public-key cryptography doesn’t work in this manner. Manning obtained one of Lamo’s public keys, which are used to encrypt messages sent to Lamo. Thanks to the mathematical magic of asymmetric cryptography, these encrypted messages can only be decrypted by the corresponding private key, which was in Lamo’s possession when he generated the key pair. Lamo claimed that he lost the private key. Once lost, the private key cannot be recovered (unless one builds a quantum computer, identifies a flaw in the algorithm, or finds another way to solve extremely difficult math problems).

Note in the list of keys (linked above) that Lamo has generated quite a few keys recently. I’m guessing that Manning either used “1024D/BBF93A57 2008-01-17″ or “1024D/6A55E50E 2009-01-04?”

The military can put you in the brig period. The reason they want to try the prisoners in Guantanamo under UCMJ is they have little rights. The Judge Advocate appoints a staff member to represent them and the prisoners attorneys are handcuffed so to speak. Glenn dots a nice job of trying to keep the intent of US Constitutional law from being greyed for political purposes.
Might add the MPs can beat you with socks, make you stand naked and a lot of other harassment with impunity. There is no witnessess. If they want to break Manning they will. They can also put him in the greater prison population for more harassment. It can get very ugly when you piss off the chain off command. Court Martials are not a fair process.

I follow you. The public key is used to encrypt messages but the creator holds the private key to decrypher the code. Makes more sense.

I understand, and thanks for your input. I just thought they had to have just cause to incarcerate someone. I mean, doesn’t the person have to have a crime named?

Going for a walk. Need to contemplate why they are holding Manning in solitary with death wish watch. I can understand solitary holding, but not the severe 5 min. call outs.

his entire case seems to be based on speculation of what he thought Manning’s motive was,

What, you never heard of mind-reading before? That’ll teach you to spend so much time with all that sciencey stuff… *g*

Chalabi

I don’t speak freaky deaky deutsche.

Who is the hacker? Manning or Lamo.. Who had access? Manning or Lamo…

Who could have access to Manning’s access?
Who sent documents to WL anonymously?

There is reportedly a document entitled “Charge Sheet” that lists 12 current charges against Bradley Manning, and this document is available among the FDL resources.

Pursuant to USMC, there is no bail, i.e., no Writ of Habeas Corpus.

Pursuant to the U.S. UCMJ and Rule of Evidence, the alleged Manning/Lamo instant-message chat logs may be admissible evidence at the pre-trial hearing of Pfc. Manning, but it appears that the chat logs may not be legally relevant admissible evidence at a court martial.

A posting with comments that pertains to Pfc. Manning and hearsay evidence was just posted at my FDL account.

http://static1.firedoglake.com/28/files/2010/07/100705-Manning-Charge-Sheet.pdf

Those Glenn interviews are so great. Nobody else quizzed him Lamo that kind of thoroughness.

Of course, now I have about 900 more questions I’d like answered.

It all seems like it’s straight out of Chalabi-Curveball, doesn’t it.

Correction: Pusuant to UCMJ = Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Hey Jane – working on that giant merge I was telling you about.

There is a missing date.

on 5/22 Manning tells Lamo he’s working in a different office, as he’s being discharged. Also that his old laptop was “zerofilled.”

What was Manning’s last day in in his old job?

I just want to thank FDL/readers/writers/transcribers for all of these efforts on behalf of Manning. First of all, FDL has put the spotlight on the toolery, and by involving so many in the defense and protection of Manning, it is really a top drawer action all the way around.

Creative, courageous, patriotic.

I hope everyone has made a little donation to the FDL 501.c.3

A bunch of interesting stuff – WL:

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/

Glenn tips us off on another cause for pause in “The inhumane conditions of Bradley Manning’s detention” (Dec. 15, 2010) and the bold is my emphasis:

In sum, Manning has been subjected for many months without pause to inhumane, personality-erasing, soul-destroying, insanity-inducing conditions of isolation similar to those perfected at America’s Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado: all without so much as having been convicted of anything. And as is true of many prisoners subjected to warped treatment of this sort, the brig’s medical personnel now administer regular doses of anti-depressants to Manning to prevent his brain from snapping from the effects of this isolation.

Dr. Joanna Moncrieff of the department of mental health sciences at University College London, reminds that

‘It is frequently overlooked that drugs used in psychiatry are psychoactive drugs, like alcohol and cannabis.

Psychoactive drugs make people feel different; they put people into an altered mental and physical state.

They affect everyone, regardless of whether they have a mental disorder or not.

Therefore, an alternative way of understanding how psychiatric drugs affect people is to look at the psychoactive effects they produce.

Drugs referred to as antipsychotics, for example, dampen down thoughts and emotions, which may be helpful in someone with psychosis.

Drugs like Valium produce a state of relaxation and a pleasant drowsiness, which may reduce anxiety and agitation.

Drugs labelled as “anti-depressants” come from many different chemical classes and produce a variety of effects.

(excerpt from “The myth of the chemical cure,” July 15, 2009)

Next, “All antidepressants can cause adverse side effects, which differ depending on the drug class.” (excerpt from “Antidepressants Used by Psychiatrists“).

Also, Dr. Matthew Taylor of Oxford University shows just how sensitive the brain actually is to chemical substances and possibly unhelpfully median the dose-effect curve and associated models are*:

[..] investigates the effects of antidepressants on brain chemistry and function using multi-modal imaging. Recently his group has shown that, counter to conventional wisdom, the commonly used antidepressants known as SSRIs (including fluoxetine and citaopram) do not have a delayed onset of action [..]

(excerpt from “The Effects of Anti-depressants on Brain Chemistry and Function“)

*Aside: I contend the research Taylor does proves excellent medical care can be provided down to the individualized level without the adverse effects we are acculturated to accept– especially if you view the new, scientific torture as also another proof but in the contrapostive.

I just realized today that one of Lamo’s big Hacks was in the build up to the Iraq war period. Early 2002, or so. Fishing around in the New York Times, social security numbers, other details.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/09/11/lamo_denies_300_000_database/

And he supposedly went into the FBI on his own terms. You would have thought they would have squished him like a bug.

Just for clarification…the purpose of zerofilling is to permanently remove information from a hard drive? I’ve been wondering about that term.

What is zero filling?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_zero_filling
Zero filling is a way to overwrite all data on a hard drive

Can data be recovered from a zero-filled hard disk?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_data_be_recovered_from_a_zero-filled_hard_disk
YES data can be recovered from a zerofilled hard drive but it is extremely difficult and costly process. To recover data from it one has to use a special equipment that has the ability to detect What new zeros have been put on the magnetic plates of hard drive. The process involoves detecting and separtating older magnetic field from the newer one.

It is reportedly alleged by Lamo that Manning told him that the military hard drives were automatically zero-filled every time they moved locations or they upgraded their computers.

In contrast to zero filling, when a hard drive is “formatted” at any time, everything is permanently erased.
http://www.webtechgeek.com/How-to-Format-a-Hard-Drive.htm
When you format a hard drive, you erase all its files and prepare it as if it were a new or blank hard dive. Formatting your hard drive will wipe clean your drive just like a new hard drive.

Thanks for that.

“In contrast to zero filling, when a hard drive is “formatted” at any time, everything is permanently erased.
http://www.webtechgeek.com/How-to-Format-a-Hard-Drive.htm
When you format a hard drive, you erase all its files and prepare it as if it were a new or blank hard dive. Formatting your hard drive will wipe clean your drive just like a new hard drive.”

I think this is not the case?

My understanding is that the data is still on the magnetic discs after formatting. Formatting is simply the making of a ‘description’ of the drives properties and what the file structure should be. A format and partition doesn’t erase anything, it just ‘forgets’ what’s there, you’d have to fill the drive (overwrite it) to full capacity to actually ‘erase’ it, which is what the overwrite with zeros does.

A guy told me one time that the NSA considers a drive erased after it’s been overwritten with random bits (not just zeros) seven times, but who the hell knows.

Hmmmmm…this little gem in that article:

“In December, 2001, Lamo was praised by communications giant WorldCom after he discovered, then helped close, security holes in their intranet that threatened to expose the private networks of Bank of America, CitiCorp, JP Morgan, and others.”

LOL. Just LOL.

{ LOL } Remember this: Persons of the Year: The Whistleblowers? There is the itsy bitsy sliver of a possibility forking WorldComFraud could have said something like that in the deepest, darkest moments of chaos and despair before their cover was blown sky high, but, frankly, it sounds like somebody made some sh#t up in an attempt to look good. That’s a big hole being dug there.

I have a question for Lamo, did he ever inform Manning of his intent to turn him in to the authorities or give him advice that it might be in his best interest to turn himself in for leniency? Since Lamo constantly exposed himself after crimes, I wonder if the advice was given in the chat logs? He says he offered him protections as a reporter under the shield law or even as an ordained minister but never receive an affirmative that Manning wanted protection. If that is the case, shouldn’t he have at the very least let Manning know his intentions of reporting him to the FBI if he fails to take proper accountability for his actions?

What you wrote is correct.

Totally and completely off topic but I just saw this and it strikes me as surreal. Guy takes clothes off and gets arrested? So what law was broken here?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/man-strips-va-airport-checkpoint-protest/

Disorderly Conduct. Indecent Exposure. And it is off topic and a distractor and so your post – and this reply – should be removed by a moderator…

The story offered so far leaves three really big questions hanging:
1. How and why did Bradley Manning contact Adrian Lamo,
2. did they have some sort of prior relationship before Manning allegedly “told all”, and
3. what was Lamo’s motive for turning Manning in to the Army CID/NSA or whoever.

There’s absolutely nothing that I’ve seen out in public that excludes the possibility that Adrian Lamo made the whole story up, including the “chat logs”, and got Manning arrested and imprisoned *for no legitimate reason at all*.

Consider that no one knows how Manning and Lamo got connected – all of a sudden Manning approaches a total stranger, and at that a notorious hacker with a criminal record, and tells all and makes lots of self-incriminating statements with little or no prompting from Lamo. That doesn’t make any sense at all.

But this might: Manning appears to be gay, and Lamo is either bisexual as well or was interested in LBGT issues sufficiently enough to be appointed to the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and Questioning Youth Task Force in San Francisco CA in 1998 when he was 17 years old.(http://www.aim.org/aim-report/homosexual-scandal-linked-to-treason/ and http://www.sfbos.org/index.aspx?page=2723).

Just as speculation, consider that they met up through a social networking page, maybe one where LGBT people make contact, and had a budding web relationship, and then something happened to break up the relationship, and (say) Manning threatened to “out” Lamo or did in fact “out” Lamo, who was married in 2007 but is currently separated from his wife (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lamo#cite_note-0) although they are apparently not yet divorced.

Because of this, Lamo decides to get revenge on Manning, and concocts the “chat logs” and gets his friend Kevin Poulsen to publish excerpts, and at the same time contacts Army CID and pops Manning on the basis of the “chat logs” which appear to exist (or at least so far as has been publicly revealed) only on Lamo’s hard drive.

This helps Army CID, because they now “have” the guy who leaked the cables and all to Wikileaks, and they’ve apparently stopped the leaking. Now, the arrest took place within a week of the initial contact (or so it has been revealed) between Army CID and Lamo. There appears (at least as far as the Army has publicly revealed) to be no direct evidence implicating Manning as the leaker, just the “chat logs” as proffered by Lamo. *If they’re genuine*, there’s enough PC there to nail Manning and arrest him – but that’s the issue: are they genuine?

Oftentimes law enforcement people jump the gun and don’t really do enough investigation, and thus nail the wrong guy. Prosecutors get caught up in this too, and because of things like this, 10 people on Death Row in Illinois were released from prison because they were convicted on falsified evidence. They were entirely *innocent* of the charges brought against them, but the cops and the prosecutors jumped the gun, didn’t do an adequate investigation, and convinced a jury to find at least 10 people guilty of capital offenses of which they were *entirely innocent*.

Maybe that’s what’s going on here, if Lamo’s “chat logs” are the sole evidence against Manning, and maybe that’s why it’s taking DoJ and the Army this long to get a case going – they haven’t even had a Board of Inquiry yet, and it’s been at least six months since Manning’s arrest. One speculation is that they don’t have *any* independent confirmation for the incriminating statements in the “chat logs”, and Adrian Lamo isn’t the best witness in the world, and they don’t want to base their case solely on Lamo’s testimony and “evidence”.

So far, I’ve seen nothing which answers the questions I’ve asked above, as to how they made contact, what the nature of their relationship was, and what motive Lamo had in turning Manning in. My purely speculative theory answers all three questions. Now, it’s possible the Army has direct evidence against Manning they’re not talking about for various reasons, and that there’s independent confirmation of the existence and authenticity of the “chat logs”, but I haven’t seen anything in all of the extensive kerfuffle about the “chat logs” and Lamo’s statements about their content, and so on.

Thanks for the link:

http://static1.firedoglake.com/28/files/2010/07/100705-Manning-Charge-Sheet.pdf

The latest version of Adobe Reader is on my computer, but the latest version of Firefox browser can not open the PDF document at this URL address, nor other PDF documents online.

Maybe I can find the Manning Chart Sheet in HTML, .txt, or .doc format somewhere online.