Ever since the Libby trial, FDL has been developing ways to manage “big data” — both documents and evolving narrative — as we cover stories over time. But this latest iteration has been a particular challenge. We started out working on a basic timeline of the Bradley Manning-WikiLeaks events, but found that there were so many conflicting versions of what happened it was difficult to wrestle them all into a single chronology.
The task was made all the more challenging by the fact that most of those conflicting stories were being told by one person, the principle source for almost all media stories regarding Bradley Manning: the recently institutionalized hacker Adrian Lamo, who turned his alleged chat logs with Manning over to authorities.
Before we thought we could do justice to the story in the form of a timeline, we had to deal with the primary source documents — the chat logs — which Lamo claims are the source of all his first-hand knowledge regarding Manning’s activities. We merged all the published portions of the chat logs into one version, and then documented everything that Lamo and others had said about the contents of the logs that were not contained in previously released versions. You can find that here: Merged Chat Logs
The next task was to compile all of the media that contained source material to date. Since Lamo is by no stretch of the imagination publicity shy, and has given interviews to anyone willing to sit still, that proved to be a somewhat ambitious undertaking. We have now published a sortable table of articles relevant to the Manning-WikiLeaks story, which we will continue to add material to. You can find that table here:
Key WikiLeaks-Manning Articles
The table is sortable by all fields, including date, author, outlet and title. The “content” field in the table is devoted to excerpts that contain original relevant material. After reading through, many will understand why the whole thing may be more appropriately titled “the many mood swings of Adrian Lamo.”
If anyone is interested in contributing to the data base, there are a number of interviews that are in need of transcription. The goal will be to post complete video/audio and transcript for each on a single page like this:
Adrian Lamo on CNN With Drew Griffin, 7-30-2010 (VIDEO & TRANSCRIPT)
Credit for the work done by transcribers will be gratefully acknowledged in the posts. These are the interviews that need transcribing:
- NPR interview, 6/7/2010
- CBC Radio interview, 6/7/2010 TRANSCRIBED BY STEVENS AND NEDITS
- Risky Biz interview, 6/10/2010
- Glenn Greenwald interview Pt. 1, 6/17/2010 TRANSCRIBED BY BMULL
- Glenn Greenwald interview Pt. II, 6/17/2010 TRANSCRIBED BY CALAMAR
- LocalFrequenciees interview, 8/16/2010: both Video and Extended audio
Adrian Lamo at Next Hope panel:
John Draper interviews Lamo at The Next Hope:
If we’ve missed anything (and given the loquacious Lamo, I’m confident we have) drop us a note in the comments and we’ll add it.
The transcribed data will be used by Marcy Wheeler, Glenn Greenwald and others to try and piece together what actually happened — and hold journalists to a higher standard of more responsible coverage. We’ll also use it to work up a more detailed and extensive timeline of events.
Because it doesn’t appear that the New York Times and other marquee media outlets are going to stop printing Adrian Lamo’s ever-evolving gibberish like it was gospel until they are all able to see, in painful obvious detail, how his story keeps morphing over time.
Update: Many thanks to Cedar Park who already transcribed the Risky Business interview. We’re including it on the Key Articles page.
Update II: Bmull knocked out Pt. 1 of Greenwald’s intereview with Lamo. Notes “Lamo hinted that the government took over and continued the chats with Manning.” (second time he’s said this)




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Lamo replies to a large number of questions (and attacks) on his formspring.me page. If I recall correctly, it does imply some contradictory attitudes and motivations behind Lamo’s actions, though that’s nothing new, and it probably doesn’t elucidate what happened. Also, it’s generally painful to read.
And there’s also his twitter feed, to which the same warning applies.
I volunteer for the Glenn Greenwald interview Part I.
Here’s my attempt to transcribe part 2 of Greenwald’s interview with Lamo:
Glenn Greenwald interview Pt. II, 6/17/2010
It’s getting late, so I apologize if it’s absolutely perfect. :v
Er, I mean to say that I’m sorry if it’s not perfect.
Greenwald Part 1 sent to your gmail.
The main nuggets in this interview are:
(1) Lamo claims Manning told him he wanted to cripple U.S. foreign policy. Greenwald noted this in his piece about the interview. It does not appear in the published chat logs to my knowledge.
(2) Lamo hinted that the government took over and continued the chats with Manning.
(3) Based on background noise Lamo seemed to be referring to paper notes at times, suggesting he may still have some records despite giving over his hard drive.
(4) Lamo is a nut who can’t see the forest for the trees.
(5) Lamo’s statement tends to corroborate his friend Chet Uber’s claim that he was the one who put Lamo in touch with the Army. Uber is also a proven liar and a nut.
(6) I marked a few things I couldn’t make out, if anyone wants to give it a try.
Perfect, just what I was looking for. I knew I’d heard that more than once. And the story makes almost no sense unless that happens.
My brain has gone half-numb from listening to/reading Lamo interviews.
Will have more on that later today, but that was a key piece, bmull. You rock.
Which disinterested `journalist’ does the PBS Newhour turn to to discuss Wikileaks?
Wired’s Kevin Poulsen.
Very nice work, but I hope the intense focus on this issue doesn’t obscure the underlying atrocities and abuses of power that Manning hoped to expose.
Does anyone have any insight as to when the video of the Afghan atrocity will be released?
You, my dear (((Jane))), are a treasure!
Happy New Year! And many more to come. I wish I knew how to help more.
P. E. A. C. E.
Glennzilla really took Poulsen apart yesterday.
The worsening journalistic disgrace at Wired
A senior British diplomat reveals that the 4 1/2 year embargo of Iraq, responsible for the deaths of a half million infants, was a scam led by the UK and US governments.
The War You Don’t See
we caught him doing the same to some vapid bobblehead and Francis Townsend on CNN last night – oldnslow had never seen Glenzilla in action – woo hoo, it was quite the treat
Oh my gosh, this is so cool. I’ll have it up soon, too.
Bmull — that transcript you made is really important and impacts pieces that many are writing today. Nobody had the stomach to go back and listen to it, but Glenn caught Lamo off guard in an early interview and went after him like a litigator. Lamo admits all kinds of stuff that at the time, we didn’t realize the importance of.
Very valuable. Thanks again so much.
Happy new year, Adie!
Kinda like old times around here, huh, transcripts & document dumps?
You posted that yesterday.
Thanks for that. If you spot any relevant quotes let me know and we’ll add them to the data base.
Oh, and transcribed too. That’s a blessing. Thanks, we’ll add that to the table as well.
Piece is up:
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/12/28/glenn-greenwald-interview-with-adrian-lamo-6-17-2010-transcript-audio/
I think that may be the same thing Glenn has linked in today’s post. Lots of other nuggets in that post, too!
The merger of journalists and government officials
I read EVERY column he writes, and try to follow many of the links in his posts. He and Jane (and Marcy) are a great tag-team, and we’re all better informed because of them.
And this morning…
Wow, assimulating facts, constructing time-lines and actually doing some analysis.
You guys will never get to be REAL journalists doing stuff like that.
Where’s the inuendo, constantly repeated mistatements and jingoism?
oh, I almost forgot, omission.
it appears the old gray lady has lost her fight and the wapo is worthless as the fourth estate
it would certainly seem as though you jane and other tubeular bloggars are now are the keepers of the light, guardian and fourth estate
I can say with confidence, firedoglake dot com is the new “new york times”
Trying (with my limited typing skills and no experience in transcription) to get the CBC interview done for you.
Jingoism you say? Charles Krauthammer is a right wing (fascist) warmonger and a highly paid propagandist of the militarist oligarchy. Charles tells us, “The difficulty Obama had overcoming the missile-defense objection (to the START Treaty) will temper….his nuclesr agenda including US entry into the test ban treaty, and Obama’s goal of nuclear disarmament….” “Conservative (fascist warmongering Republicans) can take solace that their vigorous opposition to START will prevent further disarmament ‘mischief….” If one requires proof that the process of evolution skips some species, one need look no further than at those who represent and or belong to the American oligarchy. Peace
Glenzilla remarks that Woodward does the same thing as Assange. When Woodward was here for his book salon, I specifically asked him how he got so much classified info & consequences of publishing it. Of course, he ignored by Q.
The Merged Chat Logs link gets a page not found error.
Thanks for your work :-)
~~~ModNote: fixed, ty~~~
I can try Part 1 of John Draper at Next Hope. Noticed Lamo has quite a tic in his right eye at certain times while responding in that one – don’t know if it means anything, or not.
here is the correct link to the merged chat logs
“…a measured, mature critique.”
While you’re on vacation there Mr. Poulsen, just before you get back to the daily grind, maybe you could send a postcard to Brad telling him you’ll get around to addressing some of those critiques as soon as possible. Maybe you could even tape that lovely photo of you and Lamo to it, just so he knows you care.
Before becoming a reporter Woodward was a naval officer with the high level assignment as military briefer to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas H. Moorer and regularly briefed Henry Kissinger and Al Haig in the White House basement. For whom do you suppose Woodward dispenses information, or disinformation, to the general public? Peace
This is great work. The corporate, or marquee media, are digging their own graves with their heightened censorship and lurch to Fox style partisan propaganda. I still read outlets such as the The NY times, and the local rag, but The UK Guardian, FDL, and other internet sources are the only reliable media. Should we name it the Inter-Estate?
“Tempered”, that’s an interesting choice of words. I think completely annealed would be more accurate though; if anything describes Obomba, it’d be ductile.
You are probably right in discribing Obama in the way that you have. But this is not about Obama. It’s more about those forces driving our war agenda (machine) and supporting the oligarchy in its empire building. People like Krauthammer, FOX and the rest of the fascist Right in this country. Peace
Thank you for the fix :-)
Where can I send my transcript of the CBC interview?
~~~modnote – please send to firedoglake [at] gmail.com, thank you!~~~
Hello
dazzlepod posted this at Glens the other day and is keeping it up dated. It’s all the cables in one location.
http://dazzlepod.com/cable/
Thanks Jane and everyone have a Safe New Year.
i want to thank FDL and it’s brave journalism in regard to the Wikileaks story/timeline. This is a very important break for the common good of all. As other drop/hide/lie about wikileaks , Jane and her authors carry the flame.
“Little distractions lead to major attractions – how can you possibly win?”
I don’t disagree with that assessment at all; however, Obomba is the smiling tool being used to fool a lot of gullible people into thinking our government actually does represent the interests of the public. The Executive branch is really just a marketing wing of the military industrial congressional judicial executive complex.
But I hate to clutter up this excellent thread with my own ranting and whining about the way things are.
Jane and these guys are on a roll here. Go Jane, Glenn, and the rest of you intrepid, dirt-digging souls.
I still get the uneasy feeling that Assange is a Mossad agent. Fact checker? Peace
I’ll work on the Draper interview pt 1
I’ve gone through the Draper Interviews, Part 1 and Part 4. Nothing really of note except in Part 4 there is an edit where part of the interview has been removed @ the 2:47 mark.
I feel I’m just not familiar enough with the chronology and players in this story to be of much help.
I didn’t catch much. Except the fact that Lamo is a glib asshole. Right out of the gate he refers to the whole situation as a “kerfuffle”. I kind of wanted to punch him in the face through my monitor.
Reading these again formspring.me answers again, I think almost all of the responses are so repetitive, glib, and sarcastic that they don’t say much (except that Lamo’s possibly a sociopath).
There are only about a dozen questions with interesting answers (though this is subjective), and most of them he’s answered elsewhere, in some cases inconsistently. Here are some questions that might be relevant.
This one’s just bizarre:
Q: did you ask the authorities for money in exchange for turning on manning?
A: I asked them for peace on earth and goodwill towards man.
This is highly ironic, as he is referencing an obscure line from the hacker movie “Sneakers,” in which [*** SPOILER ALERT ***] the hacker protagonists are rewarded for providing the NSA with a “black box” which allows the NSA to preserve its secrets while violating the public’s confidentiality. However, in the end, the protagonists deceive the NSA, hiding the device’s essential module and using its cryptanalysis to transfer the Republican Party’s funds to left-wing organizations. (As a side note, Lamo also registered the domain name “setecastronomy.org,” another reference to this film.)
From Part II of the 17 June 2010 interview with Lamo, it’s obvious his self-awareness is limited, but his attempts to distance himself from the disaster he has helped visit on Manning are not.
He claimed to believe that Manning would get six months in jail or less, a dishonorable discharge, and revocation of his security clearance. He bet Glenn $10 and a drink at a hackers’ conference. Glenn took him up on that bet and pre-agreed to increase it to any amount Lamo might choose. Manning’s confinement, let alone its conditions, already far exceed the penalty Lamo claimed he would suffer. Mr. Obama’s whistleblower intolerant military and DoJ, let alone a Republican successor, would like to go ancien regime on Manning, lock him up and throw away the key, leaving him to the rats and the lepers.
yeah, Lamo looks either naive, scared, opportunist and maybe all three having previously been convicted of small scale hackery. But I say ‘looks’. That’s a subjective view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdszORp_-fk
This is more Lamo from just after AFG War Logs
ok, 1 and 4 are done with the John Draper interview.
I’ll work on 3, assuming someone else is on 2.
Having finished lunch.
Thanks to KF having finished pt 1 !!!
Fantastic! I was just going to do a roundup of what we still needed. It’s amazing — the vast bulk of them have been transcribed already. Those Greenwald interviews were heavy lifts.
Thanks so much everyone, this is just amazing.
** Please close this thread and go here:
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/12/28/wikileaks-lamo-manning-transcription-roundup-what-we-still-need/
for more recent updates **
Jane! All you had to do was ask. Fantastic indeed! …just amazing…
a significant new page turned in the history of journalism.
I smell Pulitzer, or higher. But mebbe that’s just silly ole star-struck me…
;->
P. E. A. C. E.
This doesn’t add to his narrative on Manning, but tonight a comment attributed to Adrian Lamo appears in response to Jessica Yellin’s blogpost response to Greenwald: