If you are an individual without employer-provided health insurance that plans to get insurance on the exchange, the existence of the individual mandate (or lack there of) will likely have little or no impact on what you will pay in premiums.
The way the new exchange is designed is as follows:
- If you are an individual making less that 400 percent of the federal poverty level, you will qualify for subsidies to help you afford insurance.
- The size of your subsidy is based on individual income and the cost of the reference plan, which is the second cheapest, “silver” level plan.
- The subsidy is set so that after you pay a certain percentage of your income, the government will pick up all the cost over that.
For example, if you make $26,500 a year, the amount you are required to pay to get the second cheapest silver plan is capped at roughly 7 percent of your income, roughly $2,000. If that reference plan cost $4,000, your subsidy would be $2,000. If that reference plan cost $8,000 your subsidy would be $6,000 and you will still only pay $2,000. To you, the actual cost of premiums for this plan doesn’t matter.
Most people who are using the individual market exchange are likely going to be making less than 400 percent of the federal poverty level, and therefore qualify for subsidies that cap the cost of their premiums at a set percentage of their income. Individuals making significantly over 400 percent FPL are much more likely to have jobs that come with health insurance.
Rising premiums are government’s budget concern, not that of individuals on the exchange.
What this means is that, for most people on the individual exchanges, how much they pay has very little to do with the actual cost of the premiums. When the White House says removing the individual mandate would increase premiums by 20 percent they are talking about total cost, but that increase would barely affect how much people using the individual exchanges are paying.
This increase of premiums from a potentially smaller risk pool would mainly affect government spending, but not really, since the government is also saving money because some people are not buying insurance, and so don’t use their subsidies.
Because of the subsidies, though, what can’t happen is a true “death spiral,” where only the ill buy insurance, driving premiums so high that the slightly less sick drop out, leaving only the very sick in a pool with super-high premiums. The premiums people actually pay is capped, so even if real premiums rise sharply, that shouldn’t keep pushing more and more individuals out of the market. There should be, in effect, a level of healthiness relative to the cap on your premiums where you would benefit from buying insurance.
High enough subsidies can eventually even make American health insurance seem like a decent purchase.
The number of people who are super healthy and never need to see a doctor is small. Even with subsidies, and, for that matter, even with a small individual mandate penalty, the risk of going uninsured may seem like a good financial move. Remember there is still a risk of a big expensive sudden injury, I’m sure there will be some mechanism that stops people from being able to buy insurance while in an ambulance on the way to the hospital.
People like that are a minority though. Most individuals tend to have some small medical issues, need to go to the doctor occasionally, maybe have a few prescriptions, and/or fear a sudden accident. As long as the government is paying roughly 50 percent or more of the cost of premiums, which they would for most individuals making under $30,000 a year, always having insurance would probably make sense for even the fairly healthy as long as they could afford paying the set percentage of income set by the law.
Because of the design of the subsidies, losing the mandate can’t, in itself, cause many people to pay dramatically more, or lead to an unraveling of the health care law.
Even if the individual mandate is removed, the amount regular people using the individual exchange will be required to pay will remain almost unchanged. That is because the amount most people making less than 400 percent of FPL will pay will have little to do with the actual premiums or the risk pool, but instead be set by the government subsidies. What this means is that even if losing of the individual mandate does result in a slightly smaller, more expensive risk pool, that alone can’t cause a snowball of people actually paying higher premiums, pushing out all but the very sick. The individual mandate exchange is also separate from the small business exchange, so the effect would be mostly limited to the individual market.
Combine that with the fact that the subsidies in many cases are large enough to make maintaining insurance a good deal for even the relatively healthy, and the fact that most people actually want to be insured, and this individual mandate is too small to be a proper deterrent. And how easy it would be to fix this with an alternative. I simply don’t buy talk of the disaster that would come if the mandate is removed.
I think this reform is doomed, but for mostly unrelated reasons. Like, for example, how our health care spending will keep ballooning because of the systemic corruption of a Congress that crafts laws to protect the profits of the health care providers at great expense to consumers and the federal budget.



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What a shock! Rising premiums for everybody! America remains number one for cost and way down the list for actual (you know) health care!
Can we finally start talking about Medicare for everybody? And then fix Medicare and our healthcare system?
I wonder if I will be able to go seven plus years without getting sick? (time until I turn 65)
Given that I have a couple of teeth currently crumbling, I doubt it
Aren’t those subsidies a huge target right now? I imagine republicans want to gut them now – after they are implemented, way too many middle class people will be benefiting.
Greed is rampant and the Administration demanding praise did nothing to curb it. In Albany NY, the major Hospital Albany Med and physicians are asking for a 100% increase in earnings. Already one major insurer Aetna pulled out and indicated their insured will NOT be covered at Albany Medical.
So much for reform and change.
Seniors and all of us are under attack and the democrats sadly helped them rather then fended them off.
We the PEOPLE have NO REPRESENTATION
BINGO- the subsidies to the Obamacare bill will be one of the first things they go after
basically, the taxpayers are funding massive profits for the health insurance companies – who can raise the premiums that we pay to any level.
sounds like a losing idea to me….
What is 400 percent of the federal poverty level? And how does one access these so-called exchanges?
Obamacare, meet Bonercare…
my Kaiser premium went up 8.3% starting 1/1/11. what kind of rate hikes are other people experiencing?
Thanks – been waiting for something other than a DADT thread.
This was nixon’s plan, right?
Look to the Republicans to include repeal of the mandate in their budget negotiations — using the Obama proclaimed ‘nonpartisan, independent ‘ CBO numbers:
total savings over the 2011-2020 period to about $252 billion.
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This so-called healthcare reform was pronounced as “historic.” Now, over at the Huffington Post, the DADT repeal is also being pronounced “historic.” I guess everything obama does is historic. Makes me sick.
One additional point on this, and why the ‘new’, ‘practical’ Obama might go for it: would make the lawsuits irrelevant, and take away the likely SCOTUS hearing and possible ruling prior to next election.
Given what a big piece of junk this law is, the Dems should have traded the law (which overwhelmingly is loathed) for the progressive preferred tax plan (which polls showed support for).
DADT is congress’ achievement, not Obama’s but the Obamatrolls are busy giving him all the credit.
I got flamed when I gave congress the credit and also pointed out how Obama not only didn’t advocate for DADT, but also used the DOJ to hinder DADT repeal. In the mind of the Obamabots, that was his strategy all along and it worked and ain’t Obama wonderful. And of course, I was a dumb bagger who hated the president and I needed to give up Fox news.
My company’s health insurance premiums went up 13% yearly. By the time I was 64 I was paying almost $12,000.00 per year for a regular health insurance plan. One should not have to wish their life away, but, damn, I was glad to hit 65! Insurance companies are leeches who add NOTHING to health care. Medicare for all….and with good oversight.
Health Care was Historic. An Historic Screw.
DADT is historic. An Historic Affirmation of Civil Rights.
Be careful which historic you wish for. You might get it.
Seems more like “histrionic” than historic to me. So now gays can kill citizens of other nations with the government’s blessings but they still can’t be legally joined to those they love. How is this good?
Very good point that tends to get lost in the discussion.
Who knows. I didn’t support HCR. Darned if I know how to fix it.
I see that the point is getting lost that since I earn less than 400% of poverty (that’s a laugh already)getting a subsidy to “help me afford” an insurance policy is IS NO HELP AT ALL.
I CAN’T AFFORD IT WITH OR WITHOUT A SUBSIDY. This is not a choice or a pragmatic decision it is a simple reality. Why can’t this get through to you people?
If I can’t afford to pay insurance on my car I can just leave it parked. But if I can’t afford health insurance I will be fined, money will be taken from me, and I will get NOTHING.
I’m sorry to shout, but I don’t know how else to get people to listen.
You’re far from alone and I don’t mind the shouting.
Jon,
One should not trust Obama administration statements. As an actuary albeit retired I can see no way that the absence of the mandate has a 20% increase in health care costs effect – indeed the actual cost increase will be in the very low single digits.
One need only look at Vermont – a state without a mandate, and compare to Mass, a state with a mandate – both end up with 96%+ insured – so the spreading of the cost is equivalent.
Why the panic is beyond me – but then why Obama insisted on not having a severability clause in the health bill is also a mystery – unless the plan is for the mandate to cause the whole bill to be thrown out so he can say I tried – and then run on getting us health care reform in his second term. A severability clause I thought was standard procedure in this complicated a bill, so no one clause being ruled illegal would take down the whole bill.
Obama is devious – so I do not put it past him – and it would explain the panic – the cry of 20% increases – by the staff trying to hold things together and still believing in Obama.
Hmm, seeing as the Republicans are changing paygo to cutgo…
Under cutgo, tax cuts don’t have to be paid for, and spending increases can’t be offset by tax increases. The idea is that the only two things you can do are cut spending and cut taxes.
Democrats should embrace the suck and propose adding to the HCR law Ron Paul’s tax credit for medical care expenses. The tax credit is nonrefundable, but could loosened a bit by including employee AND employer share of Social Security AND Medicare payroll taxes. Which would allow up to 15.3% (instead of 6.2%) of income to be claimed as a medical care tax credit (Medicaid and the premium subsidies would still be in place to help low-income families). The best part is, seeing as only suckers count tax cuts against the deficit, so if House moves to a cutgo rule, a nonrefundable tax credit wouldn’t score as an increase in the deficit (the CBO may beg to differ, but screw ‘em).
(a) In General- Section 35 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to health insurance costs of eligible individuals) is amended to read as follows:
`SEC. 35. HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.
`(a) In General- In the case of an individual, there shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by this subtitle an amount equal to the sum of–
`(1) the amount paid by the taxpayer for insurance which constitutes medical care for the taxpayer and the taxpayer’s spouse and dependents, plus
`(2) the amount contributed to a health savings account of the individual (or the individual’s spouse).
`(b) Limitation- The credit allowed by subsection (a) for the taxable year shall not exceed the sum of–
`(1) the taxpayer’s net income tax for the taxable year, plus
`(2) the taxpayer’s Social Security taxes (as defined in section 24(d)) for such taxable year.
http://www.ronpaul.com/legislation/private-option-health-care-act/
Nixon’s plan was actually more progressive. His plan was an employer mandate (similar to Clinton’s proposal). This is basically the Chafee-Dole proposal that the GOP offered in 1993 as an alternative to President
NixonClinton.I should point out under Ron Paul’s tax credit, the 6.2% (or, as I suggested, 15.3%) in payroll taxes are in addition to any federal income taxes that are due as well.
Let’s see, just checked an online tax calculator. So let’s say a single person with 1 kid and using standard deduction makes $45,000 (I think that’s just below 400% FPL), they’d owe $3,381 in income taxes plus 6.2% SS FICA ($2790). So Ron Paul’s tax credit (America’s tax credit) would provide up to $514 a month in subsidies. Kick FICA amount to 15.3% ($6885) and add to income tax, it’d be $856 a month.
Even Paul’s tax credit “as is” would be a pretty big improvement over what we have now. If we just remember deficits don’t matter, we can get a lot more accomplished.
Mine, (BCBS) stayed pretty much as it was last year. I work for a company of about 500 employees, the contribution that I pay for my wife and I is approx $500 per month.
Likewise the retired plan for the MET – 500 deductible, 2200 out of pocket before first dollar paid – stayed at $500 per month for wife and myself (they pay 50%)
past major med was er subsidized at 80%, the 2200 out of pocket did not exist, and co-pay of 20 per service was used – all for 100 per month family.
So yes the cost is stable – but the benefits shrink.
“Most individuals tend to have some small medical issues, need to go to the doctor occasionally, maybe have a few prescriptions, and/or fear a sudden accident. As long as the government is paying roughly 50 percent or more of the cost of premiums…having insurance would probably make sense for even the fairly healthy as long as they could afford paying the set percentage of income set by the law.”
No, it doesn’t make sense. It does not make sense to use a healthcare financing company to pay for “small medical issues,” “need to go to the doctor occasionally,” or “a few prescriptions.”
Using a healthcare financing company–paying a middle man–for small healthcare bills does not make financial sense, for anyone at all. This issue has been largely papered over by those with employer provided insurance, who have been LURED into using heathcare financing companies because it enabled them to eek every little benefit out of their job that they can.
For them, individually, in that limited sense it ONCE made sense for them individually to do so. NOW that their own premium costs have been rising at their employers, does it STILL make sense to pay a healthcare financing middle man? I say no.
The only thing it makes sense to ANYONE to pay a healthcare financing company for is catastrophic coverage, including chronic illness–and ONLY if you have assets to protect.
Every other argument–the free riders, the preventive care, the socialization of costs–are arguments deployed in the interests of the healthcare financing companies, not in the interests of the public.
If that’s, as the healthcare financing companies argue, an “unsustainable business model,” well, then they HAVE no business model and we’ll have to come up with an alternative means of paying for healthcare for the poor and for catastrophic events.
If a healthcare financing company’s “policy” costs $4k, your susidized costs for said policy are $2k, AND you HAVE NO ASSETS (most subsidized people will have limited to no assets)–does it make sense to pay 2k per annum for a smattering of health costs and to protect against loss of assets you don’t have?
No, it makes no sense. It makes sense to save the $2k so you don’t resort to debt–this is a real issue in the US today. The only thing your $2k does is sustain the unsustainable business model of the healthcare financing companies.
And no, liberals. Do not tell me that paying FedGov that $2k in “Medicare for all” suddenly makes it A-okay. No, the government will likewise have to come up with a plan that does not leech marginal populations.
And, if what we’re really saying is that MOST of the population is economically marginal, well, maybe it’s time for society’s winners to pay for deliberately making it marginal–by picking up the tab with their winnings.
Don’t be so quick to accept their frames.
The next compromise Obama will make will be to privatize medicare along with social security. He is moving toward becoming a republican.
I guess that means I can no longer be a democrat. I had been a democrat all my life, but the party no longer represents me. They just do not care at all. They have sold out and are competing with the right wing for the highest bidders
The price of health insurance is going to increase even more now that they have a captive market with the
governmenttaxpayers picking up at least half the costs of a policy. Mandating people buy a bogus product from a proven corrupt industry that does nothing to make health care accessible, with taxpayer’s subsidizing the cost is insane. In terms of problem solving it’s juvenile and ridiculous at best. This demonstrates how wholly corrupt our government is given all of the other alternatives which could have dramatically lowered costs, the deficit, and made health care accessible and universal.For example, if you make $26,500 a year, the amount you are required to pay to get the second cheapest silver plan is capped at roughly 7 percent of your income, roughly $2,000…
What’s shameful about that is, when the govt mandates that you pay money, that’s called a tax. If they had simply mandated a 7% tax on all income (earned and unearned), It’d raise roughly $650 billion a year (vs. Obama’s $1 trillion in new spending over 6 years). Of course, if it was taxed via FICA, it’d be divided between employer and employee, so a 3.5% FICA hike for an employee with 3.9 times as much money available to subsidize coverage (“silver” coverage is for 70% of actuarial value, there’s still deductibles and copayments to fork over.).
Since insurance premiums calculated by age and geographic region, its essentially a “head tax” thats put on two people of the same age and region regardless regardless if they make $26,000 or $260,000. The subsidies are just swell if it brings down premiums to “only” 7% for the lower income earner, however the high income earner is going to be be paying far less than 7% of their income in premiums.
Even President Nixon’s 1974 plan was more progressive than that, the average income family would have premiums of 5.45% ($600, avg fam. income of $11,000)… Except that 75% of that was paid by the employer mandate. So out of family income, insurance premiums were 1.36%. Yeah, a pity we don’t have Nixon to kick around anymore, he was more of an economic progressive than Obama.