Brian Beutler broke the story of how Obama was working to undermine Schumer’s $1 million tax cut compromise last week, but Glen Thrush fleshes it out even more today.
But privately, White House officials, who have long viewed Schumer as a talented but essentially self-promotional operator with no abiding loyalty to Obama, think he was pursuing an irresponsible partisan fight that would delay the tax cuts and the extension of unemployment benefits for months. And Obama himself warned Schumer that the millionaire strategy could sink the stock market.
When a vote on the millionaire plan came up short last Saturday, the administration gloated — and mocked Schumer for overestimating his support in meetings with West Wing officials.
“Sen. Schumer says he wants a fight? He couldn’t hold his caucus together,” an anonymous White House official told ABC’s Jake Tapper earlier this week.
Right. Who voted against the compromise? The oh-so-principled Dick Durbin, who could only vote “yes” on tax cuts for income less than $250,000 a year…is now “increasingly supportive” of Obama’s own compromise.
Like that guy wouldn’t dance like a monkey in spandex lederhosen for the privilege of emptying Obama’s chamber pot.
Also love the part where Obama says Schumer’s plan would “sink the stock market.” Right. Because Chuck Schumer, the Senator from New York, would be out there pushing a plan that Wall Street fears.
For the record:
| Proposal | Amount added to the deficit over 10 years | Cost of addition |
| Extending tax cuts on income up to $250,000 | $3.2 trillion | – |
| Extending tax cuts on income up to $1 million (Schumer plan) | $3.6 trillion | $400 billion |
| Extending all tax cuts (Obama plan) | $4 trillion | $800 billion |
In the Beutler story, Obama was fighting Schumer’s plan because, like Durbin, he hit the fainting couch at the very thought of raising the threshold above $250,000 because of what it would do to the deficit.
I’ve said it before, but it’s worth repeating…Obama is using the unemployed as an excuse to get what he has wanted all along. And what he wants is to extend all the tax cuts.
It’s hard to “fight” when the head of your party runs his political operation with the emotional maturity of an overheated teenage boy in the latest installment of Twilight.




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- if I had a nickel for every pragmatist I have ‘flipped’ with that “For the record” chart, I would be in Aspen right now
- Mr Durbin’s crew may want to take a peek at some non-FDL threads – seems the majority of folks have, um, revised their opinions on everyone’s favorite avuncular Senator™
- and dear Gaia, Ms Hamsher – that pic is as devastating as your Hangin’ Tough on Coakley night – damn !
Personality cult? Check.
Cognitive capture? Check.
Heathers? Check.
And we can’t even blame Rahm.
Don’t sugarcoat it, Jane. Tell us how really feel. *g*
Thanks for the update.
Republicans are using the unemployed as weapons while Obama uses us as human shields. Uses THEM I should say since I’m a 99er and no longer officially count.
more to the point, it’s hard to fight when the supposed captain of YOUR team is running scrimmage for your opponents
again to the point, it’s impossible to get a progressive economic plan when your captain actually believes in the assinine principles of trickle down economics
again to the point
we elected a republican who’s only democratic feature is getting democrats to vote for him
Bernnie Sanders is doing is “filibuster” over on the senate floor as this minute.
Call & thank him:202-224-5141.
But where is Barbara Boxer…you know that liberal voice……yeah right.
Two points: First. Yes, there was no reason to negotiate a tax deal for UI benefits, as both Barney Frank and Chuck Grassley attest to. Second. It is now indisputable that Obama wanted an extension of all the tax cuts by his ridiculous assertion that Schumers, frankly overly generous, compromise would tank the market. Not only is that demonstrably false, but it puts the lie to tax cuts as hostage to GOP theory. If Obama believes that the expiration of these tax cuts would kill the market, then he could not possibly have wanted them to expire.
Blood-sucking leeches and flesh-tearing over-grown weasels spar uselessly as hapless humans look on.
Fitting.
jane called this almost from the start, I forget the post but she made it clear obama was using rahm as his shield so he could shed blame for what he himself wanted to do
this jane girl impresses me more and more each and every new development
CSPAN2 tagline: Bernie Sanders Began what he calls a tax cut filibuster.
Sen Sherrod Brown gave him an assist a bit ago, but now Bernie is back on the mic.
BRILLIANT DEDUCTION!!!
spock would be envious
Harry Reid lets the Republicans threaten to filibuster while he throws up his hands in surrender. He makes people who caucus Democratic actually get up there and talk. Nice.
My husband and I do not want a payroll tax cut. We want to still pay out our payroll taxes because it will be the best option and best stewardship of our $$$.
Why are people who do not pay payroll taxes deciding about my right to opt in?
what kind of looking glass have we stepped through when a gal has to root for Chuck Schumer and the House tea baggers ?!?! X~o
Jane, is there any way you could sit down and have a beer with Obama?
If he/corporate monopolies are holding us unemployed hostage, where is the goodie in this tax package? I see no job ceation, I see no ideas to reward corporations to invest and starting hiring in the US, and I see nothing at all for the 99ers.
I also see nobody on the Capital Hill telling the truth about the 99ers and how that 99 weeks is just not true! Yes, there are 99 weeks available but nobody is really qualified due to the tier system and how it runs.
The darkest kind…
His line is busy, busy busy…..
So we have Bernie and Sherrod fighting the good fight so far. I wonder if anyone else will help or if they all are willing to bow and scrape to the Republican party.
I used to get angry when the pundits called our President, Mr. Obama.
Now, not so much.
yep – it was my immediate thought when I pressed “reply”
Following the Obama directive and giving Carly everything she wants.
Bernie and Sherrod, sounds like a great ticket.
Wow! Our Jane had nails for breakfast. I love it when she’s angry.
I’m still trying to figure out just when obama actually switched teams
did they recruit him after the convention speech?
did they recruit him before or during the primaries?
did they corrupt him once he became the candidate?
fascinating trying to figure out when he became traitor to the labor class of america
Made my call as I am watching Cspan 2. Line was busy. I will call again and thank you.
The Obama twisting arms to get tax cuts for the rich is the same Obama who claimed he was helpless against democratic opposition to the public option.
The whole thing is a filthy con job.
Hey now, I claimed her first :)
Awesome work Jane as usual. After hearing the usual Obama apologists like Rhodes, and Colmes, it’s refreshing to read Jane’s take and listen to Malloy tell it like it is.
Who ever is after OBAMA is a much better chess player than he is!
Did Obama read his Tax Bill SCAM? one would hope not.
Obama does not have the political clout to survive super attacks from all over the base.
Senators are not going to lose face and clout because of OBAMA? Schumer is not going to set by, and let Obama laugh at him. Not going to happen.
and what so funny about all of this, is the most ruthless players in the game have not showed up yet,
Begala the clinton court jester, might want to re-consider his idea that no is going to primary obama, because he is a genius. :)
Anyone laughing at the WH? the WH has a leak,
leaks mean = big problems for OBAMA.
Obama now they are starting to laugh at you! :)
Great post. Why am I not surprised that loyalty to Obama is the only measure O and his pathetic group of advisors ever think about? As an Illinois resident for 60-plus years, I can tell you that I’ve never seen such a change in behavior by previously liberal stalwarts, such as Durbin and Schakowsky, as I have since Obama became President. I’m convinced that’s why he put them on the Catfood Commission–he figured he had two people who appeared liberal but who, in fact, would behave as quislings at his behest. He was right about Durbin, but it seems Jan surprised him. Maybe, once she realized that the IL Dems weren’t going to support her play for Obama’s old senate seat, that she was going to have to start representing the views of her constituents again or else risk keeping even her congressional seat.
I’d like to urge people to write their favorite news outlets and blogs asking them to cover this event. FDL, TPM, DKOS, etc; CNN, ABC, NBC, etc
and of course, no one, No One, rocks it like Jane!
Margaret,
Thank you for the catch.
Interesting that Reid actually made Sanders stand and deliver and all the Repubs have to do is threaten and he caves like a wet noodle.
my money’s on “after the convention speech”… this betrayal has been in the works a very long time.
Yes. Doesn’t it seem that now it is the prez who is taking hostages?
My guess would be in college, probably before the Columbia transfer.
The clues were there during the primaries.
Sigh.
I really wish people would have pushed the idea of a floor fight or at least a debate that excluded the words “they’re all the same in policy.”
As Bob Rubin whispers in one ear how smart and pragmatic Obama is, Larry Summers is whispering in the other the brilliance of the “well thought out compromise.”
IMO, the fear of Wikileaks isn’t what’s been published about the military and what’s called Free World Diplomacy it’s what will be published about the banksters and Washington, the incestuous relationship that the Founding Fathers warned about.
And this too: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#40597981
In less than 30 years TMOTU have effed it up for the world, and take no responsibility other than to demand sacrifice from those they stole from. The Best & Brightest. Goddamn.
After allowing Kleptocracy run which started under GWB to run unabated for last 2 years this tax cuts will institute oligarchy by allowing the ill-gotten gains to be kept.
We have to start one day the long climb back to fiscal sanity and why not next year. What is good for the country. Letting all Tax Cuts Expire and all Estate Taxes Expire. We lived all right under Pres. Clinton tax regime and it should be no different. I would prefer congress taking lead in instituting fund allocation for really suffering schools and roads in their constituents with the increased revenues as part of earmarks.
Jane, your and FDLers hard work in pointing out catfood commission real intentions of gutting social security go in vain if this payroll tax holiday goes in effect. If President was serious about giving tax break to middle class give a 4% federal tax reduction, increase 2% social security fund payment and in effect people get 2% tax reduction.
Regarding not getting Democratic support in senate and congress, Americans would really like to see a Democratic President signing a minority Republican passed Tax Bill this year. That is as good as losing a Democratic primary in 2012.
‘zup firedog ! :D
recommend everyone read Ken Silverstein’s 06 piece – the antecedents for all of this are there.
Harry Reid has always been SCUM!
Obama does not do all of this alone
thank you Margaret for bringing this to light
Wow, I just fell outta my chair laughing when i read that. It’s like watching an episode of HBO’s Cathouse, where two girls are fighting over one john…except that the prostitutes at the Bunny Ranch conduct themselves with far more dignity and graciousness than the DC whores mentioned above have ever done.
Sanders for President!
Seriously, we need a person willing to fight for principles. Someone who isn’t afraid to tell it like it is. Screw the “electability” grail.
I just got an email with a toll free number to call your Congress critters with: It is from the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare and they are pissed about the Payroll tax cuts because they will undermine good programs.
1-800-998-0180
I am going to try this now. Later.
have been haunted by a piece I read during the 08 battles – interviews with fellow Harvard Law Review’ers
he ditched the constituency of women and students of color once they helped to establish and legitimize his candidacy for HLR Presidency – only to court and cave on significant points to the conservative faction
Comparison to Twilight is an optimistic view. At least there, you have the hope that the good werewolfs and the good vampires will join to defend the innocent from the bloodsuckers and murderers. In real life, the bloodsuckers are winning.
I believe you are correct about the TBTF truth as the big scare. It is not over yet and Wall Streeters are giving themselves outrageous bonuses with our tax dollars.
This tax plan is a complete farce. The wealthy don’t pay taxes like the rest of America does. Just ask:
Turbo Tax Timmeah!
Geithner probably hasn’t paid income tax in years and if so, only a pittance of 13 to 15%.
Jane have you thought of running for president? I keep hearing people say they can’t because of the money. Why do we spend so much money for ads to corporate tv so they can continue to screwing our democracy and creating situations where we have to pay them more money? Imagine a campaign solely run on the internet. people watching corporate media would have to wonder who the other candidate is and would vote for them because they are sick of all the corporate ads on there tv. obama is toast. we either run a liberal or have a choice of a republican. What are we waiting for?
Is there a background story here on why Bernie Sanders has to stand up and deliver his filibuster and the Repubs can only threaten and the Dems cave?
It was one of those moments, but it’s sickening to think of because they are all before we voted.
We used to gloat that “corporations can’t vote,” therefore the people could eventually prevail.
Not so sure anymore.
Bernie Sanders is destroying OBAMA!!!!! :)
I love it!
2008 Obama may need to find a microphone, and throw 2010 Obama in the closet quick. Obama can’t sit by and watch Bernie take his manhood.
Obama is clearly un-electable now.
GO BERNIE
Hit them all! :)
Is anyone laughing now at the WH? :)
Rachel Maddow warned Obama
they laugh at you
and then you become irrelevant
Pragmatic, code for screwing the little guy. This deal will be the end of democratic party in power for at least a decade. I’ve called my reps (Stabenow, Levin and Dingell) to complain. But I know the Michigan contingent has no honor or courage. So, I’m not holding my breath.
*spit*
Yeah, my overriding concern right now is how the stock market is doing. /s
*spit*
He was surely recruited before he was allowed to run for prez. Read Paul Street’s first book for the lowdown on the vetting process. How much before that, I don’t know.
People want to know what will Obama stand and fight for. Whatever it is it’s always “just over the horizon” but as he approaches the horizon it disappears like a mirage in the desert.
(Replying to cbl @43)
Really?! Never heard of that piece, but it fits. Talent spotters are all over the Ivy schools, and finding one like that would be priceless to them.
Mary Landrieu is up?? WTF that blue dog?? But hey she is against this monstrosity!!
It will sink only the bubble part. This is where the pump and dump action happens and this is what is really controlled by machines interacting with machines and making people spend sleepless nights.
Once the true value comes into picture as listed by the great economist Mr. Benjamin Graham lot of players will jump right in the stock market to grab the value. It is a well proven fact. That is why flash crash did not go lower nor was allowed to go lower. Lot of value players would have jumped in if given a chance.
Will I be happy to see the bubble go away. I am fine with it and it will really help the country too of the tax cuts expiry.
Have not read the book, but does it mean that the Bush’s really pick the President?
hi nahant…do you know if this on TV? My computer’s speakers are not loud enough. :(
Editor of Harvard Law Review…the report on how he snubbed his liberal friends and became buddy-buddy with conservatives after winning the election then is quite telling.
President Sell-Out, indeed.
Oops, cbl beat me to it. Good one, cbl…
what 23 Democratic senators are up for re-election in 2012?
need this information
No. Wealthy individual donors and corps pick the prez.
The one good thing is that Bernie has something to say that the U.S. public needs to hear that the corporate media will never tell them. The best Republicans could do is read names out of the phone book. Right now Mary Landrieu is helping Sanders with the filibuster.
C SPAN 2
Agreed. I heard a very good piece on the radio that people want clarity and Obama keeps treating everything like a one-off decision.
Obama is a bad man.
Thanks for posting that.
Mary Landreau of Louisiana just joined Bernie at the podium. Now there is a pleasant surprise from and unexpected source.
IMHO, Obama is losing those congresscritters who know that they will lose in ’12 if they support him at all on this issue.
Wonkette’s Ken Layne on Obama:
http://wonkette.com/432120/obamas-inability-to-quit-smoking-proves-hes-morally-weak#more-432120
Congressional Black Caucus had a good press conference this morning in opposition to the WH deal.
Laughter will destroy Obama. Laughter makes him irelavent. Get the country laughing at Mr. Bipartisan and he just might do the right thing and run out of town with his tail between is legs.
Gotcha! The same is true for Justice. If it weren’t Turbo Tax Timmy Geithner would be in a prison cell instead of at the White House.
I have to admit that Kirk winning Obama’s old seat was kind of nice. I’m sure that stuck in Mr. Bipartisan’s craw.
Hi dosido how ya doing??
It is on C-Span2 here on the west coast.
kind of like the logo…interesting enough, the artist who re-imaged Obama’s photo into the “Hope” poster was on Colbert the other night…can’t remember his name, but Stephen asked him how he felt about it and his answer was less than pleased about Obama so far…thought that was interesting.
For anyone that want’s to watch/listen the evisceration of Mr. Bipartisan’s half-assed “compromise.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx
No, Landrieu has been paid off with four whole sections to increase or continue spending (or “tax expenditures”) in the Gulf Opportunity (GO) Zone. Sections 762-765, pp. 71-72.
how long can the WH sit by and let Bernie wip their tails?
Bernie is doing a PACMAN on OBAMA
Landreau must be trying to atone for past sins before she leaves the senate, so she has a defense when St. Peter stops her at the pearly gates.
“Like that guy wouldn’t dance like a monkey in spandex lederhosen for the privilege of emptying Obama’s chamber pot”
May I nominate this as Jane’s line of the year? (back to read the comments)
I’ve been watching for a while :) Bernie’s doing a good job here. It’s also nice to see Mary Landrieu helping out.
Bernie better stay off of any private planes.
Today’s she’s an ally. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This one’s pretty strong, too.
Yep. Figured out the ‘justice’ part decades before I figured to pols part out. Shame on my for being so naive & such a slow learner.
I’ll take it today. She’s on the right side(ish) of this particular issue. Anything these folks do to strip out the tax cuts for the upper crust is awesome in my book.
is nancy going to let the HOUSE MEMBERS FILIBUSTER this TAX BILL?
talking about must see TV,
that would be hilarious! :)
Bernie is becoming a national HERO, right NOW!
History will look at Bernie very kindly
History will dump OBAMA in the trash, with BUSH
I prefer paid shills of the warmongering, capitalist oligarchy to “dance like a monkey in spandex lederhosen” to describe both Obama and Durbin. But that’s all a matter of taste. Peace
Agreed but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever trust the …
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My guess is that this evening on the corporate media news Landrieu will be featured. I doubt they have the stones to air Bernie’s “fire in the belly” tongue lashing.
“Who asked for it? Did Warren Buffet come down here and ask for it? Did Boone Pickens come down here and ask for it? Did the Gates’ come down here and ask for it? And what Senator put their name on it?”
Mary Landrieu, take a bow. Someone should give her writers a bonus.
can one of the more knowledgeable inside baseball types tell me if it has any impact on other senators when someone like Landrieu plays against type ?
And they’ll characterize it as “grandstanding”.
There is no filibustering in the House. What she can do is to never bring the “Obama Compromise” bill to the floor of the House. Peace
Brutal.
But funny!
Oooooohh Peg you said THE word!!
But I do agree she certainly can be….
O/T — Margaret, I don’t know what type of work you are looking for, but have you looked at csc dot com? (Computer Science Corp) They have installations all over, hire lots of ex-military and specifically state they are open to hiring older folks.
They have several projects going on here in the FL Panhandle, don’t know about TX…. They do a wide variety of projects for business and lots of military contracts… data centers, developing training systems… they seem to like ex-military who speak the lingo.
How could the oligarchy bought and paid for “free” press do otherwise? Peace
Bernie’s phone number. Call & thank him:202-224-5141. Currently the line is busy but keep trying.
Glen Ford of BlackAgendaReport.com was on Make it Plan and has known obama since 1992. He is a “very, very conservative blue-dog”. Here we all were blaming the blue dogs, when in fact obama is the biggest of them all. Says he started with tons of money and had enough to fund 16 conservative democrats to support him. It was extremely enlightening to listen to him.
Hope someone forwards the quote to his office.
thanks for the info! :)
I think corp media may want to tell their viewers, we have a problem, Obama is going to cut taxes for the SUPER RICH, and by the way raise taxes for the DIRT POOR.
CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, may want to mention that, or be attacked as usual as more TMZ than NEWS
how are those rating going?
I’ve been applying for just about every job I’ve ever had occasion to do in my life and some that I’ve never done.
Yeah, that’s what Margaret needs is to be living in the Redneck Riviera? Peace
Does anyone think Bitchy Barry is moving into “Punish the Libs” mode b/c he doesn’t like any backsass from Democrats? Vote, Donate, then STFU.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/10/science/earth/10epa.html?hp
LOL! Good one.
Thank you for the #. May I suggest everyone call their own senators right now and request/demand that they assist with the filibuster.
I agree!
So Obama isn’t weak…He’s in bed with Geithner supply side economic policies…and the enemy.
Tweak that to oligarchy media rather than corporate media and you’ll be even more correct. Peace
Amy Klobacher of MN who authored the rape scans in all the airports by 2013 and has an interesting video on WAMM of Mn web site talking about her stand on torture. She needs to go, but she has a ton of people fooled.
Hey, I’m not exactly in Liberal Nirvana now…
If supporters of Wikkileaks can take down Mastercard and other “tools” of the government why can’t it be done to a corrupt and complicit corporate media? A cyber attack on the corporate media has certainly been earned by the purveyors of propaganda and indoctrination.
Webb is one of them
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is available: In Which I Agree with Peggy Noonan
Yep. TurboTax, Timmy! Remember, he didn’t pay taxes cause he used his own version of TurboTax to file?
I should say not!! Your stuck with those crazies in Texas! Not all of them but…. Oh and I do have family down there in Texas.
I like that idea. First stop: Politico.
Yes, it’s another good line but it does not bring with it the mental picture that the lederhosen line does…
Can we also get their email addresses in Washington?
Does anybody know if Senators complain when they get attachments in their email? I think we should send copies of the PDF of the Christmas-tree bill to all our Senators and beg them to stop this corrupt deal. (Next week: same for the House.)
I sent one of my Senators a copy of the PDF and a note telling her that the taxcut bonuses deal is taking apart the New Deal in front of our eyes. For one thing, giving a 20% payoff on the estate tax drops estate tax rates to the lowest level since 1931, back in the days of the plutocrats.
First they believe you. Then they begin to question you. Then they openly doubt you. Then they see you as a liar. Then they laugh at you and then they tell you to hit the effin road.
It did not work out as well as I had expected. The Committee gives a long spiel before they connect you to your senator and if the line is busy you have to listen to the same crap all over again. Sorry about that.
I guess that depends on the generation :) I’m 26 and my wife is obsessed with these Twilight books/films. So I’ve been subjected to them repeatedly over the last few years. Gives me a hell of an image. I do like the lederhosen line, but I don’t think it’s as insulting as calling the administration a bunch of drama-brats.
DiFi is up. If she runs again, she definitely needs to be primaried. Whether she runs or not, I would expect her to vote “Aye” as she stands personally to benefit (greatly) from this steaming pile of legislation.
Of that I have no doubt. But the panhandle of Florida is like living in central Mississippi or central Alabama. Shudder….Peace
Let’s face the sick truth. Obama and Rahm secretly knew the roles they each intended to play – upfront.
Unfortunately for Obama, his ‘good cop’ came out looking sleazier than the Rahm’s bad one.
People! Please don’t take a word Schumer or Durbin say seriously. They’ve both played to the crowds for years while privately working for their donors and the DSCC war chest.
This is an historical new age of oratorical bamboozelry by Democrats in particular, solely designed to make you think democracy will crumble without them.
When, in fact, their repeated bumbling has sped up the process tenfold.
Forget gas masks and duct tape. Start building your arks!
I was gonna nit-pick about the “enemy of my enemy” thing, but I figured I should shut up & listen to Landrieu first.
It hit me that we have been saying this deal is immoral (and it is). Landrieu is deeply religious and very Catholic. “This package … borders on moral recklessness,” she just said.
I am sure the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is appalled at this bill and they might have made a few calls. The streets will be littered with homeless unemployed, brain-damaged veterans, starving children, battered women ….
I’m hip. I’ve been there.
just google senators elections 2012. we need to take a look at the list and decide who to target. #1 Joe Lieberman has got to go.
In reponse to perris and peasant party
They recruited him AFTER Hillary sent HER BROTHER to meet with
Carly Fiorina in Scranton. Then they had ther “sitdown” at Fienstein’s
house. Thru-out the primaties Goldman Sachs had a mark on Obama. His
name was Eric Schwarz, former Co-Ceo of GOLDMAN/SACHS. This all went down
after Roosevelt said no to the Clinton’s at the Wordman Park Marriott.
Some sophisticated hackers out there just might be thinking of cyber attacks on the corporate media. What a dilema.
I don’t think the HOUSE wants to touch this toxic bill
we probably need the names for House members up for re-election in 2012 also
with e-mails
Bernie has got to be making a lot of DEM senators a little un-easy, some senators want to be president vote for this tax bill, and you can kiss
that dream good bye!
bingo
I hope to Gawd he is. All of those asshats have been too comfortable for too long.
I just finished calling all of Cantwell’s and Murray’s offices. They’re thinkin’ on it. Murray’s seemed more open to discussion,in her “Rabble, don’t bug me when I’m working, I’ll tell you my position after the vote” kind of way.
Got through to Senator Sanders office. Thank you, Senator Sanders.
I heard on the radio this morning that the cost in increased tax to someone making $1mill a year (think it was $1 mill, might’ve been half of that – if anyone else heard it, please correct me!) was $700. We are going through all this crap so a very wealthy person won’t have to pay an extra $700 a year. Astounding, isn’t it?
Oh Mary just blew it. “I may vote yes, I may vote now, but I’m gonna make a lot of noise…”
It would be a 4.3% increase, so I don’t think $700 shakes out. It would be an increase of $43,000 per million.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong?
So, bottom-line: Landrieu just announced she might vote FOR the fucking corrupt deal!
Didn’t Landrieu also vote AGAINST cloture on the House bill with the stand-alone extension for only middle-class taxcuts?
yep. That was Landrieu.
as my attempt to send my email just showed, we need to use the “monitored” email inbox, i.e., the real email address, not the one the Senators use to send email to us. Their outbound accounts do not allow incoming replies.
“Obama himself warned Schumer that the millionaire strategy could sink the stock market.”
- Nuff said
Agreed. Great catch Margaret. Reid is so pathetic!
the problem DEM senators up for election in 2012 now have is interesting
how many want to be tied to OBAMA in 2012
if they are primaried for voting with OBAMA, on this tax bill scam and health care scam, all any challenger would have to do is tie them to OBAMA daily!
Obama can be used to get rid of bad Dem senators
something to think about :)
see OBAMA does a use for Dems, OBAMA can help us get rid of the bad Democrats in 2012.
There’s certainly no need for this kind of disgusting slander.
Dancing monkeys in spandex lederhosen are respectable and trustworthy beings working an honest job.
I’d say you owe the monkeys an apeology.
Too bad I called her office to thank her before she said that. She was doing so well and making a great case…
Excellent point. Bunraku at its best.
Thank you Senator Sanders for pointing out the new wage differences in the auto companies! This is the tip of a very slippery slope and everyone needs to know about it!!
In spite of everything Bernie has done wrong over the last couple years, can we all agree that what he’s doing here is courageous? He’s really standing up for what’s right today.
I for one appreciate him for it.
Thank you for the correction!
Great catch Margaret. Makes one wish Reid had been defeated. At least his opponent would have had priceless entertainment value. She would have come at you from the front rather than stabbing you in the back like Reid.
I’ve been trying to call his office to say “thanks Bernie.” Still busy.
Are there any other “Democratic” Senators helping Bernie besides Landrieu?
Ditto – I’m even on loonnnggg hold for Levin. Stabenow next call…
Do you have their numbers? I’m from MI also.
Yep. I can’t get through either. I wonder if it’s other staffers begging him to STFU that are clogging up the lines, or if it’s people calling to commend him for his effort.
On another note, I’m happy about this for now. But unless he holds out for the ENTIRE session today, and keeps it up on Monday, I won’t be too impressed. It will be meaningless if it doesn’t effectively delay a vote.
Did I read something earlier about Reid scheduling a vote for Monday pm and filing a motion to limit debate? How would that effect Bernie’s filibuster?
At least we would be in the waning days of his “leadership”.
For those of you who might have missed Bernie Sanders number.
202-224-5141
Dear Ms. Hamsher,
Can you please suggest ways we can begin to apply pressure against this tax cut deal and future regressive policies that Obama will – no doubt – be working to legislate? I would like to see FDL adherents, like myself, do more than leave hand-wringing comments attached to FDL posts.
PS – My congressman is McCaul and my senator is Cornyn, and it’s a waste of time to contact them.
What Bernie Sanders is doing has revolutionary potential. It has to shake the elites to their core.
It’s never a waste of time! I can see how it would feel that way, but understand that their staffers (the people who actually take the phone calls) over time get irritated, and then get discouraged. The congress-critters hear about this in staff meetings.
Your repeated calls can cause unrest within their own ranks. That’s not a waste of time, is it?
I don’t think his “motion” can end a filibuster.
He’s only been doing it for 4 hours XD Relax a bit. We’ll see how it’s going 4 hours from now. Or next week. I wanna see him, at 9pm EST tonight, read Good Night, Moon over and over !
This administration is determined to be bipartisan, meaning they only cut deals with Republicans. Democrats can go fuck themselves. That’s why they don’t want to be seen as triangulating, because it implies making a deal with the left, too. And that, as we can see, is a bridge they will not cross.
My Senator is Cornyn too and I rip him all the time. A word to the wise though: Set up a separate email address to do such things with though or he’ll spam you to death!
Well, a filibuster is endless debate, right? So if he can file a motion to limit debate, that would end a filibuster? Fucking archaic rules. I’m so confused.
Oh hope against hope, can Bernie do this until the end of the 111th?
Stabenow 202 224 4822
Levin 202 224 6221
He needs help and I can’t help but wonder whether any Democrats other than Landriue will help him. Where is Franken, Whitehouse, Boxer, Schummer, Stabenow, et al.?
Thanks!
I hope so. Some times I feel like we all can only howl at the moon.
Interesting point Mary Landrieu raised: we voted for tax cuts for wealthy when there was a surplus!!! I hope everyone can run with that.
Yes, he is now what he’s always been. Obama had three terms in the Illinois senate to establish his legislative baseline and it was exactly what you see now.
http://www.slate.com/BLOGS/blogs/weigel/archive/2010/12/08/we-are-all-tom-buffenbarger-now.aspx
Tom Buffenbarger got him just right.
Oh, I hope it shakes them to their core! I hope it wakes up some regular people too. Where’s Sherrod Brown? I thought he was helping Sanders on this….
No shit! Ain’t that the truth!
So far only 69 NO votes on corrupt WH deal, according to a whip count in The Hill. That’s including one firm Republican NO, 62 firm Dem NOs and 6 Dem “Lean NO.”
Here’s a really good contact list that has names, numbers, addresses, email contact forms, links to committees etc:
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
Nah, Jane’s Hilda Solis “can officially kiss my ass in Macy’s window” line has already claimed the “line of the year” prize. That one’s in, like, Matt Taibbi territory, right up with “vampire squid”.
C&L has some Sanders video up, including something with Sherrod Brown I believe.
That Obama would go to almost any extent to undermine any plan that would thwart an extension of tax cuts for the wealthy, has become irrefutable by his actions over the last couple of weeks.
That the Schumer million-dollar plan, in particular, was an alternative that needed to be stopped, because there was a groundswell of support that would almost surely lead to its passage, doesn’t seem to be supported by the facts, however.
From the Brian Beutler article:
“(Estimates suggest that lifting the threshold from $250,000 to $1 million could cost as much as $400 billion over 10 years.)
A Senate Democratic aide said that, for these reasons, the idea hasn’t really gained wide traction in the caucus. And a third source noted that a number of progressive members don’t want to start negotiations by giving up what they really want: a vote to let the Bush tax cuts expire above a threshold of $250,000 a year.”
I am so loving everything Sanders is saying. I cannot think of the last time so much actual truth was spoken in the senate.
America where are you now, don’t you care about your sons and daughters ?
Others please chime in so we can build a complete list by crowd-sourcing. (Of course, jokers could screw it up, so use common sense and only call the “202-224″ exchange in D.C.)
Cardin 202 224-4524
Mikulski 202 224-4654
Stabenow 202 224 4822
Levin 202 224 6221
Everyone’s Senator is here.
Still cannot get through to Sanders to say thank you – line remains busy -
202 224 5141
That is actually just a front page on top of the house.gov/ and senate.gov/ home pages. I just linked to the Senate’s list @180. The House website actually sucks for anyone trying to reach multiple members at once.
We can our Reps on this clickable map, or in the list below the map, but that list just links to Reps websites. We don’t want their friggin’ websites, we want to collect their phone nos., fax nos. & true email addresses. Probably not an accident that they discourage mass-mailing.
Go Bernie Go!
Glad to see someone in DC is calling Obama out.
If Obama believes that the expiration of these tax cuts would kill the market, then he could not possibly have wanted them to expire.
Now THAT is an excellent point. No wonder the guy had the public option on his brain at that press conference, he just pulled off the exact same deception.
He publicly supports a progressive policy (end millionaire tax break, start public option) that falls to carry the day. Only later evidence emerges that he had privately supported the opposite of that policy.
Or may-be Reid is throwing obama under trhe bus first.
Update on Bernie Sanders’ filibuster: Still going and watchable @ http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx, he’s hitting all the right notes, talking now about how the Payroll tax is designed to starve the Social Security Fund.
I’ve tried to call his office to offer support but it is CONSTANTLY busy. I hope Arianna and Huffpo are on this thoroughly. 202 224 5141 His office.
Oh, hell, here is the whole list of Dem Senators (minus Bad Nelson, Joementum & Blanche):
Akaka, Daniel K. – (D – HI) (202) 224-6361
Baucus, Max – (D – MT) (202) 224-2651
Bayh, Evan – (D – IN)(202) 224-5623
Begich, Mark – (D – AK)(202) 224-3004
Bennet, Michael F. – (D – CO)(202) 224-5852
Bingaman, Jeff – (D – NM)(202) 224-5521
Boxer, Barbara – (D – CA)(202) 224-3553
Brown, Sherrod – (D – OH)(202) 224-2315
Cantwell, Maria – (D – WA)(202) 224-3441
Cardin, Ben – (D – MD) (202) 224-4524
Casey, Robert P., Jr. – (D – PA)(202) 224-6324
Coons, Christopher A. – (D – DE)(202) 224-5042
Dodd, Christopher J. – (D – CT)(202) 224-2823
Dorgan, Byron L. – (D – ND)(202) 224-2551
Durbin, Richard J. – (D – IL)(202) 224-2152
Feingold, Russell D. – (D – WI)(202) 224-5323
Feinstein, Dianne – (D – CA)(202) 224-3841
Franken, Al – (D – MN)(202) 224-5641
Gillibrand, Kirsten E. – (D – NY)(202) 224-4451
Hagan, Kay R. – (D – NC)(202) 224-6342
Harkin, Tom – (D – IA)(202) 224-3254
Inouye, Daniel K. – (D – HI)(202) 224-3934
Johnson, Tim – (D – SD)(202) 224-5842
Kerry, John F. – (D – MA)(202) 224-2742
Klobuchar, Amy – (D – MN)(202) 224-3244
Kohl, Herb – (D – WI)(202) 224-5653
Landrieu, Mary L. – (D – LA)(202) 224-5824
Lautenberg, Frank R. – (D – NJ)(202) 224-3224
Leahy, Patrick J. – (D – VT)(202) 224-4242
Levin, Carl – (D – MI)(202) 224-6221
Manchin, Joe, III – (D – WV)(202) 224-3954
McCaskill, Claire – (D – MO)(202) 224-6154
Menendez, Robert – (D – NJ)(202) 224-4744
Merkley, Jeff – (D – OR)(202) 224-3753
Mikulski, Barbara A. – (D – MD)(202) 224-4654
Murray, Patty – (D – WA)(202) 224-2621
Nelson, Bill – (D – FL)(202) 224-5274
Pryor, Mark L. – (D – AR)(202) 224-2353
Reed, Jack – (D – RI)(202) 224-4642
Reid, Harry – (D – NV)(202) 224-3542
Rockefeller, John D., IV – (D – WV)(202) 224-6472
Sanders, Bernard – (I – VT)(202) 224-5141
Schumer, Charles E. – (D – NY)(202) 224-6542
Shaheen, Jeanne – (D – NH)(202) 224-2841
Specter, Arlen – (D – PA)(202) 224-4254
Stabenow, Debbie – (D – MI)(202) 224-4822
Tester, Jon – (D – MT)(202) 224-2644
Udall, Mark – (D – CO) (202) 224-5941
Udall, Tom – (D – NM) (202) 224-6621
Warner, Mark R. – (D – VA) (202) 224-2023
Webb, Jim – (D – VA) (202) 224-4024
Whitehouse, Sheldon – (D – RI)(202) 224-2921
Wyden, Ron – (D – OR) (202) 224-5244
still *crickets* on HuffPo – under Jon Stewart article the comments are all about this, though.
I’m not sure about this… But I think Bernie himself decided to do a real Filibuster… likely to get the message out to Americans.
I originally did the Happy Snoopy Dance over Landrieu’s opposition, ’til someone here reminded me how easy she is to buy off: off-shore drilling, Pentagon buying up all that tainted Gulf shrimp, etc.
Where’s Russ Feingold on this? He ought to be helping out. He’s got nothing to lose.
Tom Buffenbarger for president of the United States.
Barack Obama’s positions: “…nose in the air pontificating when the coast is clear…or, as soon as anyone throws a punch, he’s in a bum’s rush to get the hell away from the conflict.”
20/20 vision without even using hindsight. (“Nose in the air pontificating” is just too apt to bear.)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/30219a57f42ba047?pli=1
Or is it already out there?
It’s almost amusing that this President has the Bully Pulpit… but considering the way he and Gibbs and Biden and Emanuel have treated the actual Progressives… it seems the only folks he’s prepared to “Bully” are the Progressives.
Ok, I just called Franken’s office and the woman said he is in Minnesota and that this is not really a filibuster as there is no bill actually up for a vote. I asked if Franken was flying back to help Bernie and she said no, not until Monday. I told her that this was very important and Al needs to get involved NOW. All she could say was that he was returning on Monday. She got kinda exasperated with me but I don’t care.
Over at Salon [I know: slimepit, except for GG] I happened to catch an “Obama’s not THAT bad” article, citing his work on environmental issues. [Somebody Leonard as the author?]
Perhaps I’ll go leave a link to this in the comments.
MSNBC is just plain Fox News for Barack Obama, there is simply no way to watch that channel. Dylan Ratigan and Countdown with one eye shut, Rachel Maddow with one eye shut and the other squinted and a finger on the remote – the rest is straight up Obama support the same way Fox Noise supports and twists and lies making useful idiots for the rich out of dumbasses. MSNBC makes useful idiots for Obama out of dumbasses, same technique. We have two choices. Evil, or Evil.
Go, Bernie.
Reid put it up for debate, and Bernie is filibustering it – even C-Span’s chyron says “filibuster”
I admire you all that call elected officials’ offices and say your piece. I’ve rarely done it, and I can’t stick by my guns very good when I do. It seems rigged from the start because the phone-answerer is so obviously just a poor hireling who’s not listening. The more you talk, the more evident it is.
thanks for the info!
I just called Feingold’s office and got the voicemail you know,”due to the volume of calls . . . .” I urged the Senator to get in there and help out Bernie.
Fractal, as someone who used to work on Capitol Hill [responding to mail was one of my duties], I’ll repeat for you what I’ve said here again and again [unpleasant as the truth may be]:
** Congresscritters almost never read constituent mail themselves. [That's why they have staff.] This is especially true for Senators, who have incoming from an entire state. The best that will happen is that you might “win the lottery” and have your correspondence picked as “representative” so the Congresscritter would see it. The odds of that happening are about the same as the lottery.
** What really matters is the NUMBERS: how many e-mails, phone calls, and, yes, letters does a Congressional office get on a particular issue/point of view. The folks handling “incoming” will do a count and report on up the line.
** Thus your strategy should be two-fold: a) don’t waste your time on eloquent arguments. You’re “talking” to the lowest member of the office totem pole; and b) figure out how to increase the “numbers” for your point of view.
** To increase the numbers: e-mail on the Congressperson’s site. Then CALL. But call his/her Washington office AND as many “district offices” within the state as you can find. DC is where the main action is, but if the district office(s) are getting calls, they will notice. Again, “reports” are usually generated as to what issues constituents are writing about.
** Get as many of your friends & family to e-mail, write or telephone. If they’re reluctant, offer to help them or even do it for them. [No fraud please, just assistance.]
** Remember, what you want is for the staff to be saying to the Congressperson, “OMG, our constituents are REALLY pissed off about this tax bill!!! They’ve heard about it, and they REALLY want you to let these tax cuts expire.”
** BTW, it can be useful to emphasize that you are not being “prompted” to call/write/e-mail by any organized group, but are doing so based on your following of this issue. [We used to get hundreds of "fill in the blank" postcards supporting/opposing this or that issue. They're worth about 1/10 of what a "real" communication is.]
Finally, please know that any “response” you receive from your Congresscritter will have been written by a staffer like me. It is NOT a response to what you communicated.
Good luck. Apply your time/efforts where they can have the greatest effect.
Y’know, if Lawrence O’Donnell had either brains or balls, this is what he’d be telling people on his show — as a “former staffer.”
Finally the HuffPo has Bernie up on the front page.
Carly, see my response above.
You don’t need to talk for any length of time, or “persuade” or have any kind of cogent arguments.
You just need to make your presence & awareness known. Three or four sentences will do.
Never stop trying. The gist of your message is written down and reviewed/forwarded.
Check. Thank you
Why does NO left-representing talking head on cable news, in a back-and-forth with a twisted, lying rightie pundit, ever STICK to the fact that for 8 years the tax cuts for the rich have not worked, have indeed plunged us and probably the world into the mess we’re in? They’ll always throw that out first, and just let it get tromped all over by the thin-mouthed, sneering, thick-red-lipsticked, comic-book-mean-lady-eyebrowed, young female pundit representing the right. The pundit for the right will actually KEEP yapping, brainlessly and repetetively, to fill DEAD AIR while the left pundit just smiles helplessly, forgetting what he was supposed to say and why. That’s because the left-pundit actually comes prepared to defend Obama, not armed with Truth or Reason.
I actually saw Paul Begala end by pulling on his cheeks to make a face at the pundit from the right. Either that, or he wound his finger around his ear to say she’s crazy. Well said, sir, and deep. You sure got her good.
Thanks Carly. Hey, don’t make it a big deal. As Mauimom says, it’s the numbers that need to add up. Just identify yourself (well, I do) and say that you think it is important that Senator Snort gets in there and helps out Bernie Sanders w/ his filibuster on the Senate floor. Say it is VERY IMPORTANT. Then say thank you and have a nice day or whatever. I seem to remember someone saying once that faxes carry weight because they actually stack up and have to be dealt with. Anyway, good luck.
Thanks, I will remember that, because I very much want to do it. Writing down my point in few words and saying it a few times to myself would help me.
I understand how discouraging it can be to live in Texas with that type of “representation.” But here are a couple of suggestions for channeling your frustration & anger.
1) Go ahead and communicate with the lunkhead. [See my post @ 201 above.] Won’t change their mind, but might let them know there’s an increasing percentage of the state/district that has a different point of view.
2) More importantly: whom do you know in other states? Put together an e-mail — I’m sure you can construct one from the info here — asking friends & family to e-mail, call, write on this. Again, offer to work with them if they’re reluctant.
Congress needs to feel that there’s an avalanche of citizens/voters who are furious about this legislation and will take the effort to communicate. They know that for every one who writes/calls, there are probably 10 who share the same sentiment. Make this known.
Good luck, and thanks.
I have a refrigerator magnet showing a Pez dispenser with the head of George W. Bush, popping out Pez pieces imprinted with “LIE” instead of “PEZ”, and the caption “PREZ: LIE DISPENSER”.
It stayed on my refrigerator until the end of the dismal years of the Bush Presidency.
When Obama was elected, I took it down.
Recently I returned it to my refrigerator.
You knew the hostage reference was total BS when the Rethugs didn’t even blink @ it’s use. Obama and his GOP co-conspirators are just doing a good cop bad cop routine for the public. Obama is an extortionist who was merely using the unemployed as a prop to get what he always wanted tax cuts for all his wealthy pals. He thinks he’s so fucking cunning but he’s really not much more then a two bit street hustler and punk.
Maybe someone should start manufacturing another refrigerator magnet showing Jane Hamsher’s face with a dialogue balloon saying “I TOLD YOU SO”.
Good. Now the NYT needs to front page it. Ya know, I wonder if this is a prelude to Bernie announcing for President. The Malcontent keeps saying he has some secret dyno information. Just rank speculation here.
America went off life support in 2000. This is a banana republic we now live in. Where scamming shoppers is part of the deal, where screwing over your neighbor to get yours is an acceptable practice. Where the elites do everything they can to leverage the common folks against each other in order to maintain the charade of democracy while the destroy the infrastructure and rob us of every asset that we possess. This is already a done deal, count on it.
Thanks Mr. Sanders for the tough talk though…(is that like a sternly worded letter?).
Obama you are not at HARVARD NOW!!!
please say it is not so OBAMA you didn’t
throw the women and people of color under the bus at Harvard.
our african americans members are starting to think OBAMA is the first
cousin of Clarence Thomas. (this must not be a good thing)
Obama who did you pissed OFF? come on man tell us
because this is becoming the worst week of your life!
wonder if the WH is still laughing at schumer!
Obama knows it is U-HAUL time, it is over.
remember OBAMA this is not harvard! :)
Clinton people are telling OBAMA to go to right, please do it OBAMA! :)
make us laugh more!
maybe you can explain to CLINTON, why being call ALAN KEYES can be a problem. :)
even Republicans want Obama to go to the right! :)
they know the jokes are coming!
Go get em Bernie. I heard one stat from him that we should think about: the top 1% earn 25% (or around that) of all compensation. Shit, yeah, how else you gonna buy those houses over in Switzerand and the private planes and ornery pilots to get back and forth. And then there are the servants and the like to take care of things while I’m back here stealing a few from ya all. Fuck.
The cynic in me tells me we’re in for a big let down.
Still, it’s good to see that more and more are speaking out. Maybe it will reach critical mass this time.
It’s amazing that Obama fights the hardest when he’s fighting his own party.
As a matter of fact, Warren Buffett and some others have said that their taxes should be RAISED!!!!
But did Obama listen?????
He’s the best Fierce Advocate the rich and powerful could hope for.
Yeah, having been let down by dems so often I’m expecting some weasily way they’ll let this bill pass.
WTF , 79% interest rate for a credit card? Damn!!!
The modern filibuster is a way of not ending debate by voting against cloture. But it is a sham in that there is no debate.
What Bernie is doing is different. We don’t call it a filibuster anymore, but it’s what we used to mean by the term. He has the floor as long as he keeps it. No one else can make a motion. They can’t end debate with a motion until he yields the floor.
Bernie only needs one other Senator to support him to keep this up forever. (The other Senator needs to spell him so he can take bathroom breaks.) So far he has had at leat two others give him these breaks.
ah… what?
Olbermann slammed Obama in a special comment. Rachel eviscerated him and turned the Ghandi quote on its head so at the end everyone will ignore Obama after laughing at him, which she said the right is doing now.
But I’ll grant you that O’Donnell is carrying Obama’s water for him.
When did O’Bama “sell-out”? Sheesh remember all the occasions he voted against Boner, Son of Skulker, while in the U.S. Senate…like when…no wait.
I’ve heard that the best thign to do is send a post card. It’s better than email because it takes up physical space at the office. It’s better than a letter because letters get diverted for secruity reasons. (Can you say ‘anthrax?’)
I alwasy think of that scene in Miracle on 34th Street when all the letters are brought in. I can’t help but think bags of postcards have more an effect than a large number of phone calls.
Better yet, do all three: email, call, post. Also, always mention you live in the district/state and you are a voter.
you should write up a simple diary at myFDL to get this started.
The only thing Obama fights is democrats / or I should say liberals and progressives.
I no longer trust Obama. I firmly believe his next step will destroy Social Security while the wealthy get ever filthier rich.
You’re absolutely right about all of this.
All along, our President has only been ‘weak’ from the perspective of someone who wanted to fight for a better future for the middle class, working class and working poor.
He’s a very strong leader for the Wall Street elites, and that’s where his heart lies. He’s a danger to us all. We desperately need a legitimate Democratic primary in 2012.
It’s apparent you know nothing about Dick Durbin.
I’ve watched him for years and he is one of the most principled politicians out there. If he voted for the tax bill that tells he carefully thought it out and did it because the believed it was the right thing to do for the nation.
So as you try to destroy our president and watch the left wing progressives beat their chests as if they are going to save the country ask yourself why this same group would not take the vote in September. It was because the weak kneed Democrats were afraid they would not be reelected and now they are outraged???
Give me a break. If they lose it all in this struggle and the new republicans take their seats in January the people of America are going to suffer big time and the chest beating Democrats and progressives are going to be responsible for all of it!