The lame duck session of Congress is shaping up to be dominated by the issue of what to do with the “Bush tax cuts” set to expire at the end of the year. Democrats want to extend the Bush tax cuts only for everyone making less than $250,000, but the Republicans are insisting that they extend the Bush tax cuts across the board. What seems to be completely missing from the discussion are any so-called “Obama tax cuts.”
On Google News, I found 3,568 stories containing the phrase “Bush tax cuts,” but only 35 containing the phrase “Obama tax cuts.”
Since the campaign, President Obama has been planning to leave the tax rate for people making less than $250,000 a year the same as it was under George W. Bush. This actually requires Obama to actively draft and sign an entirely new law preventing the mandated change in tax rates from taking place. Obama clearly thought this was good politics, good policy, or both. Yet, for some reason, the White House is, in effect, letting Bush take all the credit for Obama’s planned extension of these tax rates by allowing the ongoing debate to refer to them as the “Bush tax cuts.”
Why didn’t the White House draft up a new tax law, with a few minor changes, that permanently extended the current tax rate for people making less than $250,000, and label that the “Obama tax cut.” By making a few small modifications, they could even have slightly reduced some tax rates for the middle class. This would allow the White House to legitimately claim the “Obama tax cuts” are not just an extension of the “Bush tax cuts,” they are, in fact, better!
If the administration did that, we would be having a different debate right now. Instead if it being about what parts of the Bush tax cuts we should extend, it would a debate between Democrats, who wanted to put in place the Obama tax cuts, and Republicans, holding the Obama tax cuts hostage unless the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy were also included.
If Obama is going to sign a big deficit-expanding tax law, he should at least get the PR win of making sure the name “Obama” is directly followed by the phrase “tax cuts” in a few thousand new news reports, articles, and blog posts.
Update – Atrios appears to possible be one of the first writers who pushed for the renaming of the “Bush tax cuts” the “Obama tax cuts.” It also seems the Democratic Congressional thought about try to make the change at one point yet that appears to have gone nowhere. I still think it is critical to no just simply rename the Bush tax cuts but to actually make some modifications so Democrats can claim legitimately the “Obama tax cuts” are even better for the middle class.




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That would be good politics. But the White House has proven that they don’t know how to do that. In fact, the White House specializes in doing bad politics and bad policy simultaneously.
True.
But they didn’t do that. So we’re NOT having a different debate right now. Why?
Well, they CHOSE not to do that, ergo, they’ve CHOSEN not to have a different debate, ergo, they’ve CHOSEN to have this debate. Now why would they do that???
Hint: Watch the end result and you’ll see why.
One more piece of evidence on the mountain of the real difference between the two parties right now. Yet millions still in denial.
What a great country.
The “Obama Tax Cuts” are on the cutting room floor as the folks in the WH have no clue on how to message things
I don’t remember the bill number but Obama did give out tax cuts. He specifically gave an extra to Small biz. I do know that the amount of tax cut to middle class under Bush resulted in less than a dollar.
However, your post is perfect timing with the note of whose tax cut it is and is not. Also, the fact that congress has not moved one inch and could do all kinds of things between now and January if they would just get off the padded chair and work.
If he did this, Obama could not pretend the Republicans forced him to extend the tax cuts for everyone.
LOL! So true! You should go on tv with Jane!
They just can’t be that dense. I think the plan was to turn off progressives to the democratic party. I mean is there any difference between this administration and a Republican one ?
Yeah, we all know what the final result will be don’t we?
I see liberals all over the tubes are all excited about the Democrats maybe, just maybe actually holding a vote on extending just the middle class tax cuts. I guess that will allow them to crow about the vote two years from now.
What’s missing from this proposition? Notice they don’t say this is the ONLY vote they will hold with regards to extending the tax cuts.
So they hold the vote to extend the tax cuts for the middle class, it goes down in flames in the Senate (and maybe even the House) and then they vote on the “grand compromise” to extend ALL the tax cuts for “only” two years.
Yawn. Been here, done that.
Come talk to me when you you’re willing to hold ONLY ONE vote, that being to extend the middle class tax cuts and if that fails they all expire.
I won’t be holding my breath…
Or, how about, “The Obama Tax Cut for Everybody’s First Quarter-Million”?
For profit news soon becomes for profit narrative.
Hmm, margaret, were you listening to Ted Koppel on NPR? “for profit” news seems to be what he thinks iswrong with the news today. (btw I left you a message on previous thread).
The weird thing about the messaging/labeling of tax cuts is that, purpose aside, they did do a real tax cut, but almost no one knows about it. I didn’t realize it myself until I got a paycheck with less deducted for tax than I expected, and I pay attention!
Well, I didn’t get any paychecks for several months after the cut was put in place, so guess by the time I got one, I’d forgotten.
Reporters or bloggers have asked people, including voters at the polls this month, about the tax cut, and even tho’ respondents definitely were in the tax bracket that got them, they did not know about it. And, often, of course, didn’t believe it. Many believe that Obama got Congress to *increase* taxes on the lower income brackets.
I can’t believe they have been this bad about getting credit. No matter who their masters are, if they want to be re-eleted they should have been making sure everybody knew about the tax cuts they got early on! It’s a puzzlement that they couldn’t do that.
A nd sometimes I think he doesn’t know that people don’t know; that he thinks they do know!
Oh, Peasant Party, left you a msg on the liveblog thread.
Heh, whats that old saying, the camera adds 20 pounds????
Boy that’ll give a whole new meaning to wiiiiiiiiide screen tv.
I read what Ted said and I agree with some of it but some of it just seems like elitist pearl clutching to me.
I also left a response on the previous thread. :)
Why do you care if he gets good PR? He’s done so much that’s not laudable, that is actually shameful, why worry if he did one thing right and didn’t get credit? Maybe it’s just me. I don’t feel bad for him and I’m not interested in him getting lots of credit because I don’t want him re-elected.
I’d say this is just another example of Obama’s political malpractice, but there’s be SO much of that, one has to question whether it’s deliberate or not.
Today Bush…..oh sorry ObombA let loose some more “drones” and killed at least another 20 in Pakistan, all immediately declared guilty. Tax cuts? This idiot has shown to be absolutely nothing more than Bush, the second sequel. How anyone, from either official party, support this clown is beyond me. Seriously. Whether you are a pure dyed in the wool Dem Party member or not, why support this supposed agent of change. The only change he’s accomplishing is taking tax dollars and leaving change.
Even Olbermann conflated the extension of unemployment benefits as help for the 99ers when it does no such thing. it re-authorizes tier IV but doesn’t have a tier V. Something tells me Olbermann is having to toe a line now…
The biggest difference between Obama and Bush is the fact that the White House portrait artist is going to have to use more burnt umber in the flesh tones.
The Obama White House is all about temporizing to extend the worst policies of the Bush White House (and, in some cases, the Clinton White House).
Biggest, or only? I honestly don’t get it. I realize least of two evils. I realize “first black president”. I realize the power of the President in regards to Congress. I just can’t for the life of me figure out, why any Dems or progressives STILL support this clown at all. The only thing progressive he’s done, is to progressively tell progressives to rub salt in the wounds he’s stabbed into them. Yet many, many sites STILL jump to make excuses for him and show their undying love. I don’t get it.
Margaret,
I am just catching up on the threads today and read where you had an interview.
Just wanted to add my good luck well wishing to all the other posters who have already done so.
You are so well thought of on this blog and it is because you do not mince words and I appreciate that so much.
He’s more pro choice than Bush but not much. He signed a bill with the Stupak abomination in it.
Wow! Thanks! I like you too! :)
I wouldn’t hire Obama to manage a McDonalds he’s not up to it.
Since the wealthy Republicans are so adamant about retaining tax cuts for the rich AND continuing this “endless war” which makes no sense fiscally as we have seen for the past 30 years, it is time for us to change the dialog. They continually talk about cutting the deficit, so, let them pay for the war by increasing the tax rate not to 39%, but, instead to 50% or 60%.
Answer: “cognitive dissonance”.
Because that wouldn’t be “bi-partisan” and “wouldn’t change the tone in DC”, which is obviously the reason he was elected in the first place.
This is just yet one more example of good policy being good politics, which is obviously why it will never be embraced by Obama’s White House.
“Why didn’t Obama…”
Good question. Stupid or corrupt?
Which, I think, is also a good question.
True Progressives don’t support this assclown at all, canbeav. The reason establishment Dems and the veal pen blogosphere like Great Orange Satan and Huffpo still do is because they’ve bought into the Dem brand side of things and the whole “lesser of two evils” horeshit. The Democratic Leadership Council, the Third Way, and the New Democrats which have taken over the Democratic Party in the last 30 years have moved it so far rightwards towards corporatism that there’s very little to distinguish Dems from Repubs now. It’s slowly turning around though. Anecdotal evidence suggests that even the veal pen is getting tired of being played for fools. I can’t wait to see what happens to the Obamabots when he throws the middle class under the bus with the Catfood Commission.
I just hope we Progressives can get strong and organized to either (1) take control of the Dem Party from the corporatists, or (2) establish our own massive political movement and/or party, or (3) both.
How about “both”.
Thanks for your great thinking. Sometimes the little things are just beyond a simple thought.
Absolutely, if Pres. Obama has assumed all the problems of this country from GWB, then absolutely, it should be called the Obama tax cut for everyone (limited to $250k).
Why Jon would YOU of all people write this: “Democrats want to extend the Bush tax cuts only for everyone making less than $250,000….”
The Dems STILL have control of the House, the Senate, and the WH. If they wanted to do do as you state, they would! Why is this so hard to grasp?
Let’s not forget that Obama & team went spent millions to beat Dem. Bill Halter because he dared challenge one of Obama’s water carriers. Obama showed he’d rather lose a Senate seat than see one of his lackey’s challenged in a Primary. Obama is doing EXACTLY what he wants – selling out the middle calss who elected him.
The Dems and BHO have no political plan at all, apparently.
Their debating skills are somewhere below the freshman level.
They should be talking about the ‘Republican/Bush tax increases’.
This would have the added feature of being true. This whole mess is a Republican
shit stew.
I’ve been saying this for months. why not let the Bush tax cuts expire and write and new law instead of doing the slicing and dicing of an old law?
Let ‘em expire and then, see what problems the R’s would have with helping the “lesser” people.
Here’s an article on HuffPO about it
Trumka Willing To ‘Accept The Consequences’ Of Holding The Line On Ending Wealthy Tax Rates
Don’t exactly know what Trumka has to do with it except providing some cover for Obama???
It’s too late. Congress ought to have repealed the Bush tax cuts last year, and labeled the Recovery Act tax cuts as the “Obama tax cuts.”
I tend to agree, but they were paralyzed by political fear and cowardice, so give ‘em a break.
Now that it’s the Lame Duck session expect them to be paralyzed by political fear and cowardice, so give ‘em another break.
What a band of losers. Only one with a spine; Da Pill. And they are ready to dump her.
These tax cuts are irresponsible and should be vetoed. It’s silly to think rebranding them “Obama tax cuts” will help in any way.
The only explanation for why President Obama (and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill, Reid and Pelosi) haven’t rolled out “Obama’s tax cuts” for the middle class while letting the tax cuts for the wealthiest expire as scheduled by Republicans is because they intended all along to extend them, thus keeping the phrase “Bush tax cuts” in play.
The reason why I say this is because of the Cat Food Commission’s suggestions for cutting federal spending. The two conservative chairmen, Bowles and Simpson, estimate their “savings” over the next ten years will total $4 trillion…which also (by chance?) adds up to how much will be added to federal deficits ($4 trillion) over the next ten years if all “Bush tax cuts” are made permanent.
Of course, the budget-busting deficit-exploding “Bush tax cuts” could just be allowed to expire, meaning that our federal government would have $4 trillion in additional revenue over the next ten years, which would cancel out all the Cat Food Commission suggestions, or if the Cat Food Commission’s suggestions were still enacted, this would mean $8 trillion in additional federal revenue over the next ten years…which would probably come in handy, especially if someone insanely decides to start a war with Iran. Then, not even $8 trillion would cover all the damage done to our country and the lives of American citizens, especially the future of our nation’s children.
I’ve said it too, on my blog. http://hoofin.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/expiring-temporary-bush-tax-cuts-to-be-all-the-news/
The Making Work Pay Credit alone was one of the most significant tax cuts in history. But no one has been calling it one of the “Obama Tax Cuts”.
The guys making strategy for the man are tone deaf.
I want Mr Obama to go back to wherever. He has betrayed his base and lacks leadership skills. He proved to be an unfortunate choice for the job. Primary him.
Right you are. I didn’t even know about it until I studied my 1040 form. Unbelievable ham handed messaging by the dems and BHO.
Here’s something everyone needs to remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQG_TckOMRM
Yep. One caveat: given the craven behavior of the Dems for decades, we’ll just get the same old, same old.
Voting President Obama out of office, without a suitable alternative, and a smart political strategy to unite the anti-DC sentiments of all sides, just perpetuates the current situation.
I wish, oh do I so wish, that the Obama Administration would prove this wrong.
We are in a self perpetuating negative feedback loop. I don’t know what will stop it.