Univision’s Jorge Ramos spoke with Newt Gingrich about the Hispanic vote in the upcoming elections. Newt says that Hispanic voters will choose between a “Food Stamp Party and a Paycheck Party, and he has started a web site called “The Americano” that will cover Hispanic issues:
GINGRICH: [W]e’re talking about how can we create a space that is sort of center right, pro-jobs, pro-entrepreneur but where the entire Hispanic community feels comfortable arguing, talking, thinking. We’re going to be putting the Dream Act on that space and we hope to have before the beginning of the year, with Jeb Bush’s efforts and others, a very lively debate about whether or not we can develop a step by step solution to helping everybody in America come out from outside the law and finding a way ultimately to have every person in this country living within the law, that’s got to be our goal.
RAMOS: But for instance, you know Republicans voted for SB 1070 in Arizona. Republicans voted against the Dream Act in the Senate, just a few days ago. Republicans started a debate on the 14th amendment that would obviously prevent the US Citizenship for the sons and daughters of undocumented IMMIGRANTS; so, many Hispanic voters are perceiving republicans as anti-immigrants, clearly as an anti-immigrant. How is the Republican Party going to get the Hispanic vote with this kind of record?
GINGRICH: First of all, I think that the Dream Act was an entirely political manipulation by Harry Reid, designed to get the result he wanted. Senator Reid said let’s bring it up for open debate, let’s bring it up by itself. There are parts of the Dream Act that are actually quite useful. And the underline…
RAMOS: Not a single Republican voted for that. I mean, just imagine what 2 million students are thinking. I mean Republicans didn’t want to help me.
GINGRICH: No, but that’s because he rigged the game, that’s because he rigged the game. Now, so Republicans have to be articulate enough to say we have to solve the challenge of undocumented workers, undocumented children. We have to solve the challenge of bringing people in from the shadows into the law. We ought to have a series of steps to get us there. I agree with that totally.
Wait, wait, wait. Back up there, Newt. What was that? You support passage of the DREAM Act, and claim there are Republicans in the Senate who would’ve voted for it if Harry Reid hadn’t “rigged the game” by bundling it in the Defense Authorization Bill with a repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?
That’s what Newt tried to claim at the time in The Americano anyway, with an article entitled “Attempt to repeal ‘Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’ kills DREAM Act“.
Excuse me if I’m a bit skeptical here, Newt. Here is Andres Duque of Blabbeando:
If you actually saw the proceedings, you’ll realize The Americano is playing it both ways: The Republican Senate leadership actually argued they didn’t vote in favor of the DREAM Act because they wanted a straight up and down vote on a Senate defense bill. In other words, they alleged they would have passed the bill if only the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” repeal AND the DREAM Act bill hadn’t been included. In fact, the rank and file of the Republican senate leadership used the DREAM Act to argue that the Obama presidency was “seeking amnesty for illegal immigrants“.
Cue in a photo of angry Dan Choi on The Americano’s entry page and an article with no byline saying that Republicans would have passed the DREAM Act if it wasn’t for teh gayz pushing an end to “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell”
Pluhezzz The Americano, have more respect for the intellect of Latinos.
Orrin Hatch, one of the DREAM Act’s original supporters, has had the bejesus scared out of him by Robert Bennett’s defeat in the primary, and says he would not have voted for it. “As you know, I was the original sponsor of the Dream Act and I feel deeply about it,” he said. “I don’t like some of the language of the Dream Act the way they have modified it.”
John McCain cosponsored the DREAM Act in 2003, 2005 and again in 2007. Now he says he does not support separating the DREAM Act from other immigration reform because “we’re going to have to secure the borders first, and then enact comprehensive immigration, but the border has to be secured first.”
Now I don’t doubt that Reid’s actions were aimed at garnering support from Hispanic voters that Democrats desperately need to turn out in November. No argument there.
But Newt, if there are Republicans who would’ve voted for the DREAM Act as a stand-alone bill if not for Big Bad Harry Reid and teh evil gays, who are they?






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He is so f*ckin’ full of it
Hey, what else would you expect? It is really easy for him to say he is all in favor of the DREAM ACT, especially since he doesn’t have a vote! Just an opinion, but as he is possibly looking to run for POTUS in 2012, talk is cheap and he has absolutely nothing to lose!
WAKE UP: TALK IS REALLY CHEAP! And there is absolutely no risk to him in pandering to try and garner Hispanic votes and dollars.
Damn but the Rs and Newt are almost as bad on the bait and switch “I’ll sponsor a bill right up until it might actually have enough votes to pass at which point I’ll then make up an excuse to vote against it” as the Dems are.
They truly do think that everyone outside of the Village are idiots.
New bumper sticker slogan:
The “Village” Idiots think the Rest of the Country are Idiots
Ben Nelson of Nebraska?
Oh, you meant admitted republicans.
So, now we are talking about the ‘give us your young immigrants so we can feed them into the meat grinder of our righteous wars’ aka DREAM Act, and making it seam as though ‘our guys’ are what?
You know.
It would be really great if the people of the US would punish the Rs by voting in D majorities.
Harry Reid, Blanche Lincoln, Max Baucus, Ben Nelson, Joe LIEberman….
Did you forget the snark tag?
The pay check party with themselves written in as payee, nice you greedy selfish whatevers….
Be very afraid bc this guy fooled his wife, fooled his local Georgians, used C-SPAN and the House’s Special Orders when it was late in the East but not yet late in the West, became Speaker of the House – what’s to stop him from becoming president? A Jeb Bush candidacy? Reminders about Gingrich’s cesspool ethics? A strong, Democratic opponent? Jane Hamsher?
HELP!!!!!
LOL, I thought I read the comments before posting, but I must’ve missed yours.
It seems I owe you a cold one. Whatcha drinkin’?
I hear you, and to a large extent agree with where you’re coming from.
But in the spirit of “they work for us, we don’t work for them” this is a good thing, because it appears that this is overwhelmingly supported by the community it most affects. Don’t know if that changes your opinion on whether or not it should be passed, but I must admit it does have an impact on mine. Without that support, I would be against it for the very reasons you laid out. Now, leaning towards to supporting it. Although it doesn’t matter now I guess. Call to my Senators now will fall on deaf ears. (LOL as if the last 1000 calls didn’t!)
Book Salon up with Ari Berman’s Herding Donkeys: The Fight to Rebuild the Democratic Party and Reshape American Politics hosted by Joe Trippi
Newt, I talked to you briefly at the Bali Hai on Kauai, nice and civilly even tho you are a revolting clown. Looking back I wish I had told you what a pos you are and always have been. I won’t make the mistake again if I get the chance. Asshole. And while I’m at it, who was the woman you were with? Didn’t look like your current wife. Is that why you were mad because the starter at the Prince put someone with you that morning, and you didn’t play? I hate to repeat myself, but, asshole.
I’ll just make two points.
First, and foremost, Jorge Ramos is incapable of asking any ‘hard’ questions of the Arch-Conservatives and from those who are willing to show up his ‘talk show’ and yet, if he did, he would suffer the same fate that occurred to Sanchez at CNN.
And secondly, had Ramos had his “shit together” he would have asked Gingrich, if he sees himself as an Arch-Conservative since Chicanos see Gingrich as an Arch-Conservative. Furthermore, he-Ramos, would have questioned Gingrich if he was supportive the existing Arch-Conservative challenge pertaining to “birthright citizenship”. Additionally, Gingrich should have been questioned relative to Arizona’s Arch-Conservatives in their effort to establihs and implement a Homeland Security Command Force in which gun zealots will be “locked and loaded” while they search for Brown People, including myself.
Of course, with Gingrich’s new website, the only folks that will show up and “discuss” Native Americans/Chicanos/Hispanics/Latinos, will be the same trolls that show up here at the Lake.
Now, if Gingrich becomes the nominee for the GOP in 2012, he will suffer the same fate that visited McCain, and which will bring out the overall Spanish-speaking voters, and in ever=larger numbers. So, if Gringrich wants to “bring it” I’ll waiting and in plain sight for these verbal fisticuffs.
Jaango
this is classic newt. he is working hard to bring his favorite wedge issue into the Latino community. the repubs won the house in 94 based on teh gays and guns. Probably, slimeball Clintons’ grinning betrayal of American workers had as much to do with it, but give the devil his due. newt loves him some gay hatin gun toters.
Newt would have arranged primary challengers for any Republican who dared vote for the DREAM Act. End of story.
Univision’s owned by a Republican-friendly conglomerate, isn’t it? I know it’s based in New York.
Pelosi has it right. You don’t bring a vote unless you know you will win. Otherwise you lose credibility. That’s what Senate Democrats don’t understand.
You can also bring a vote if you know that it helps you with your base, regardless of whether the legislation passes.
Did bringing the DREAM Act to a vote ultimately help Democrats or Latinos?
I mean, from what I understand, Durbin’s strategy all year was to quietly negotiate 60 votes. Then he abruptly dropped that strategy and allowed the DREAM Act, which he has been working on for 10 years, to be used to try to score political points. The issue is now radioactive for the foreseeable future. Was that smart?
Newt tries for another “wedge” – latino folks to split into anti-gay and pro-gay and don’t give a damn about anyone else’s sex life.
Same old- same old
Newt’s expired sell by date is going to prevent his 2012 Presidential bid – indeed folks now refer to him by “fat Elvis”.
Phoenix Woman @18
Some 30 years ago, Hallmark Cards owned a couple of television stations, and barely surviving economically, while delivering their content to the Spanish-speaking community. Some ‘new’ investors came along and purchased Hallmark’s asset for an approximately $6 milllion, and then went out and hired the former Mayor of San Antonio, and subsequently, this “value” increased several-fold.
And of course, for anyone who is neither Native American nor Chicano, all the angst and anger, all attention is focused on SB 1070 but for Native Americans and Chicanos, our attention is focused on Arizona’s HB 2281 and which stipped our languages, culture, and histories from our public school systems. Thusly, we are now seeing an “actualized” political agenda for Hate and Ignorance.
And as to Gingrich in particular, should we all live long enough, we will hear Gingrich rolling over in his grave in anguish for Native Americans and Chicanos “owning” the Republican Party, and this will come about in two generations. Conversely, the Arch-Conservatives or Neo-Liberals on the Democratic side of the aisle, will be rolling over in their respective graves as well. Of course, the first item on the “new” agenda will be a new federal law in which all political parties will be prohibited from accepting any membership application from an avowed bigot and racist. In failing to live up to the “new” federal law, any violator will lose their tax-exempt status, since “money is the milk of American politics”. To wit, a ‘third party’ will have to go the way of the National Rifle Association relative to its membership.
Jaango
This is hysterical! Newty thinks some Hispanic, any Hispanic will vote for the Republican program? The Republicans have lost the Hispanic vote for good.
The problem is, many Dems tried to triangulate to the anti-Mexican sentiment in the right and lost it too.