I was on Morning Joe talking about the White House campaign to silence its critics and set them up as scapegoats for Democratic losses in November. Joe Scarborough asked me why people on the left are upset, and I said it’s because people don’t like it when the President says one thing and does another.
There has been a 19 point shift in the margin of support among Hispanics from Democrats to Republicans since July, per Gallup. That’s AFTER the passage of the Arizona immigration law in April:
Those numbers kept dropping even after Eric Holder said the Justice Department would sue to oppose the Arizona law.
People don’t like it when they feel like they’ve been played. Deportations have increased under the Obama Administration:
Instead of doing anything about that, Robert Menendez introduced another “comprehensive immigration bill,” and went on the Sunday talk shows touting the fact that they could bring it up in the lame duck or new session.
As Dave Dayen said, “allow me to contain my laughter.”
I wrote earlier that in the era of “big data,” it’s easier for issue advocates to see when someone’s actions don’t match up with their words. Anyone can watch Joe Biden on the Rachel Maddow Show on September 15, and hear him say “we have enough votes to sustain support for repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Vote [sic]. And we’re just gonna push it as hard as we can.”
Maddow then asked why the President doesn’t suspend DADT discharges in the mean time:
MADDOW: [W]hy not suspend the discharges of people under the policy now, pending that Defense Department review? Why keep kicking people out now while all of this movement is happening towards ending the policy?
BIDEN: Because that is the compromise we basically had to make to get the votes to finally repeal it.
“Because that is the compromise we basically had to make to get the votes to finally repeal it.”
Well, that didn’t work, did it? They didn’t even have the support of the Democrats in the Senate, let alone the Republican votes needed to prevent a filibuster. Both Lincoln and Pryor helped DADT go down to defeat.
So either Biden got played, or he lied. Either they didn’t have the votes in the first place, or they couldn’t hold them. In either case, there is nothing preventing the President, as the Commander in Chief, from suspending Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell discharges pending the Pentagon review if he’s sincere and that’s what he really wants. He could do it today.
Obama says liberals are hurting Democrats and depressing turnout when they criticize him. Well, he’s not up for reelection in November, and we’re doing plenty to support Democrats. We’ve raised nearly $40,000 for Russ Feingold in the past week alone.
But right before an election is the time that the public is supposed to express their concerns and hold their representatives accountable. That’s why we have elections in the first place. It’s the last chance people will have to push their elected officials on how they plan to vote on the Catfood Commission’s recommendations in December, which members of the commission say will include cuts in Social Security benefits. A bill that Obama plans to sign.
Anyone who tells people to be silent now is telling you to give up your last chance to fight to keep Congress from voting to reduce the deficit on the backs of senior citizens.
But Obama’s not talking about the fact that people are unhappy about his Catfood Commission plans. He says that people expect too much too soon, but that’s a straw man. That’s not what’s happening at all.
People understand when they’re being played. And they don’t like it.






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This would’ve been catnip for cable!
Seriously, sorry I missed it, I have a doctor’s note.
Who did Morning Joe use as this morning’s hippy-puncher?
Gibbs for DNC Chair just about says everything than needs to be said about this administration and the Democratic leadership.
There wasn’t any punching, they let me talk & were very respectful.
Good Morning Jane and Firedogs -
I haven’t reviewed the Tivo from Saturday’s DC event – did any of the Speakers
even mention SS ??
politicians=big liars
all one needs to know
Thank you, Jane. I agree completely, and am totally upset that I was so taken in by the lying that was done during the campaign. The one thing I hoped he was lying about, escalating the Afghan war, turns out to have been about the only truth.
Better than teabaggers? Perhaps, but not by enough to waste any more money on this administration. I have and will support some individual candidates who need help, like Feingold. Ben Nelson will never get my vote again.
Apropos of nothing, Obama being the huge doucher he is (from Woodward’s book):
“Mr. President, I want to ask you one favor,” Holbrooke had said… “Would you do me the great favor of calling me Richard, for my wife’s sake?” It was her preference. She disliked the name “Dick,” which the president had been using.
At [Holbrooke’s coronation] ceremony, Obama referred to Holbrooke as “Richard.” But later, the president told others that he found the request highly unusual and even strange. Holbrooke was horrified when he learned that his request — which he had repeated to no one — had been circulated by the president.
Read more at Wonkette: Bob Woodward’s Scoop: Obama Cabinet Hates Itself
lots and lots of people EXPECT the bosses to lie so they can steal & live large.
I’m 50, I was a fine dining cook in Boston from ’83 to ’88 – ‘happy days are here again!’ – after the 70′s, people were just riding the bubble and blowing every nickel they could borrow cuz it was fun! only droolers believed raygun’s back of the napkin voodoo “economics”.
people do NOT like Democrats who lie. I think they’re finally getting fed up with the DLC sell outs – having grown up on welfare and DEPENDING on financial aid for culinary school then my math degree – I actually remember thinking that the DLC-ites were gonna make government work better, AND
- aside from permanently bury Raugun’s prop 13 bullshit lies,
- BUILD community support for community programs, cuz a strong private sector is FOUNDED upon a strong community.
What The Fuck did we get but sell out after sell out, lie after lie.
I should have voted for the Raygun-Newt-ista fascists if all I wanted was a bunch of lies and a lot of stealing.
0-$ell-0ut$ PROBLEM is that he and his DLC crowd are a bunch of $ell out$, plain and simple. They’ve been VERY successful at keeping employed AND selling us out, while throwing a couple of half gnawed bones our way once in a while – half gnawed, slathered in pathetic fucking excuses.
rmm.
Liberals and Progressives are the Democratic Party! Enough with the play on words OBAMA.
99% of people who voted for Obama and Democrats in 2008 wanted the following.
Democrats wanted FDR policies to fixed the Economy!
Obama instead Obama followed Hoover
Democrats wanted a Health Care Bill with a Public Option and Drug Importation
Obama the trojan horse gave us the Bob Dole HEalth Care
Democrats wanted the WARS to end in Afghan and Pakistan
Obama the Trojan Horse increase War in Afghan and Pakistan
What real democrat? attacks Unions, Teacher Unions, Progressives, Liberals, Hispanics, etc.
Obama has attacked the entire Democratic Base.
Coming this fall Obama plans on attacking Social Security.
Just maybe, all real democrats know Obama is not a Democrat.
The elites are trying to play the entire USA populace as FOOLS!
That is ironic, now that you mention it. Lots of people thought the Afghan escalation stuff might be just rhetoric to get “centrist” votes, when in fact it was one of the things he very much intended to follow through on.
am so sorry I missed your appearance
Alex Witt was equally respectful on Saturday, actually letting you speak without interruting w/ ‘very serious questions’ – at the time, I figured she was just being civil to a fellow SC alum, but apparently there may be a change afoot
…then again, they loves ‘em some Dems in Disarray™
hear, hear, Jane!
nice bullet points.
and let’s not forget the ‘WARS’ are ‘ILLEGAL OCCUPATIONS’.
great post and wonderful clip!
Jane is an inspiration.
His first order of business was to establish his cred with the MIC.
As Digby pointed out, liberals are never supposed to criticize the Administration, while Blue Dogs are obliged to. Guess which group gets more funding from the party?
Jane–In looking at the video–what’s interesting to me is the guys’ reaction to you. They were hanging on your every word. Do you think Obama’s sitting in his office right now, shaking his head, thinking…..THAT b*tch?! She’s calling me out in front of Scarborough!! (giggling) Serves HIM right.
I would be very unhappy to learn that Obama — or anyone in the White House for that matter — felt they didn’t have more important stuff to do.
“Joe Scarborough asked me why people on the left are upset”
Could partially be because so many of us have put in thousands of hours for Dem candidates along with Obama to then be punched in the stomach by Obama, Biden who instead of thanking those who have worked their asses off for them and acknowledging the reasons for why people are discouraged. They point fingers and say “buck up”. What a fuck up.
1. THANK those who have worked so hard for them and other Dems
2. ACKNOWLEDGE the legitimate reasons for the disappointment.
3. ASK for people’s continued support and free work (that so many have put in for Dem candidates
4. REPEAT that no one no one said change would be easy. No one said change would be easy. Ask people to please Keep pushing.
Amy’s coverage of the One Nation march (went to the rally) Totally inspired.
Voices from the “One Nation Working Together” Rally for Jobs and Justice
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/10/4/voices_from_the_one_nation_working
I concur. Am glad you were there. Will continue to be an avid supporter. You GO GIRL!
You’re giving them more credit than they deserve.
Always like a breath of fresh air to hear Jane summarize issues on TV.
Sorry to obsess over minutia but shouldn’t the sentence, “Both Lincoln and Pryor helped DADT go down to defeat,” read, “-helped DADT repeal go down to defeat?”
Haven’t finished my coffee yet or paid my syntaxes so I concede I might be mistaken.
I don’t know but I heard Ed Schultz being quoted by AP saying something like, “We must respect our leaders” or some establishment-supporting crap like that.
That is the crux of our unhappiness with the Democrats, they sell out to big money at the drop of a feather.
I know it should be “Drop of a Hat” but hell it sure doesn’t take something so big as a hat to make them sell out!!!!!!!!!!
he’s out of his mind if that’s what he really believes, he has forsaken everything, he’s a corporate shill and he showed it immediately
you’re right jane, he’s not up for elections now but he is not going to get my support if he wins the nomination when he does go to re-up
Context is everything. If Ed is saying that if I find myself standing next to the president in a mens room I shouldn’t turn to ask him a question and piss on his leg in the process, I can probably go along with that.
If he’s suggesting that I should respect our leaders by supporting all their decisions he is simply insane… or insanely simple, take your pick.
“Drop of a hairnet,” perhaps?
I’ve said this before, the problem obama has is that his constituents are democrats and we have an ideology, we don’t vote for the party we vote for the record
we are liking obama’s record as much as we liked bush’s and I really really hope there is a primary challenge because if their is not then there will be a republican in office next go
I am pleasantly surprised that MSNBC is giving you (what appears to be) more and more air time. One hopes it will get someone’s attention. (On the flip side, I was chagrined last week when Lawrence O’Donnell appeared not to even know what FDL was. Couldn’t even pronounce the name. Manifested a pretty condescending tone, I thought.)
Jane! You did excellent! If DC can’t understand something as simple as:
“They tell us one thing and do the opposite” there is no help for them.
I’d just like to know, in that big world of lobbyists where is middle class citizenry represented? If we all got together and paid 5 bucks a piece would they begin to listen? Seriously, it seems that money is the only thing guiding them.
As I noted in an EPU’d comment last week:
Did someone have to pick up Mornin Joe’s jaw off the floor after Jane spoke truth to power?
You know, I had a bumper sticker during Bush’s rule that read “Blind obedience to bad leaders is not patriotism”. Sadly it applies just as much in the present.
lol, True. Perhaps I was overreacting prematurely though. I’ve been trying to find the whole clip and not just the sound byte. I have to suspend judgement on his actual comment but a) Ed is not the brightest bulb in the box and b) when push comes to shove, he’ll tow party/establishment line IMO.
I am glad you made it onto Scarborough’s show. I can’t stand him, or Mika B., so would have missed this without your diary.
I watched the whole thing on the MSNBC site. You did a good job of explaining a lot in a short time. I wish you had more time for the Cat Food Commission. Most people probably have no idea what this is about. I know you will keep hammering it, and thank you. I am so angry about it that I will be more than happy to show up at events for any serious Democratic candidate who comes to Iowa starting next year.
Your comment about Biden probably hit home with him. I do not believe that Joe Biden says anything but what he believes to be the truth, so the fault on DADT probably lies with a certain departed staffer and his legislative dealmaking. And I have no doubt that if Biden was President he would have suspended the discharges. He began his career motivated by civil rights, and he is much more liberal than Barack Obama.
Obama has seemed to have some difficulty with issues around equality for LGBT Americans, and this is not a surprise. It is, however, a disappointment, like so many other things.
Jane: But right before an election is the time that the public is supposed to express their concerns and hold their representatives accountable. That’s why we have elections in the first place.
And why they think that they do not have to be accountable in any way to those who endlessly worked for them is beyond me. Just think they can drag progressives along without acknowledging what they promised, the endless work by the base the majority of work for free.
They are banking on the “we are better than the other people” strategy. This is not much of an appeal. They need to try to go deeper. Where do they plan on trying to go in the next two years
I’m cynical enough to believe that the WH lied and did NOT get played.
Canfield Law #1 – People only do what they want to do.
DADT and LGBT rights are just style points for vote getting for Obama. I’m further convinced that there won’t be any positive resolution vis-a-vis DADT, and you know why?
Obama’s “come to Jesus-Christ-is-my-Lord-and-Savior” bit last week. It served two purposes; the obvious one to counter the secret Muslim thing.
The other was to further establish socially conservative bona fides.
There will be no further movement on LGBT issues from the WH point of view after these mid-terms. Count on it.
But in 2012 we’re told he’s going to turn into a true blue progressive. Right?
One more thing:
Ladies, should right to choose issues come up on the bi-partisan sacrificial altar again in the next Congressional cycle, there won’t be any WH support on that issue either.
I predict in the upcoming re-litigating of Health
CareInsurance smackdown that it’ll be an issue again.Jon Walker has a fresh cross-post available: CA Prop 19: Evidence Mounts That Marijuana Initiative Will Drive Youth Turnout
Something that’s relavent to “both” parties and their apologists and blind followers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFuHGHfYwE
If Obama has any SINCERE intention to advance LGBT rights (highly doubtful) it won’t happen until late in his second term when he’s conducting last minute legacy building… if he gets a second term.
and I would still like an answer to my #4 above – anyone ?
I thought I signed a petition or two from CREDO and/or PCCC or Color Of Change to demand exactly that from the President. Do we need to start a new petition drive?
You seem to be the only person receiving invites to those shows willing to point out that the emperor has no clothes. Or, more accurately, the clothes have no emperor.
Sooo tired of the idea that it is going to take a long time.
Already been beaten to death but
1- there are things Obama could do right now that he has not done. Executive Order stuff.
2- It’s not like he’s out in front of the issues LEADING. If he were to push and fight and try — he’d get a lot of (not just slack but) *support* in the fight. So many of us see him as not even trying.
We hired him to the job based on his campaign promises. He has failed to even try to deliver. Therefore, he should be fired. I am past being emotional about it.
I quit his campaign after his FISA vote. I still voted for him, now I must admit, equal parts repudiation of Bush, repudiation of McCain/Palin, and HOPE that things would truly be different and better. I will not vote for him again.
How’s that health care negotiations on CSPAN working out?
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fired for lying.
fired for not trying.
cjc
Joe is just biden’ his time towards retirement. He should go and invent the Internet or something.
MarketWatch has a very pessimistic take on the what Koch’s ability to get a “Tea Party” movement going means for the future.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/america-on-the-brink-of-a-second-revolution-2010-09-28
Stage 1: The Dems just put the nail in their coffin by confirming they are wimps, refusing to force the GOP to filibuster the Bush tax cuts for America’s richest.
Stage 2: The GOP takes over the House, expanding its war to destroy Obama with its new policy of “complete gridlock,” even “shutting down government.”
Stage 3: Obama goes lame-duck.
Stage 4: The GOP wins back the White House and Senate in 2012. Health care returns to insurers. Free market financial deregulation returns.
Stage 5: Under the new president, Wall Street’s insatiable greed triggers the catastrophic third meltdown of the 21st century Shiller predicted, with defaults on dollar-denominated debt.
Stage 6: The Second American Revolution explodes into a brutal full-scale class war rebelling against the out-of-touch, out-of-control greedy conspiracy-of-the-rich now running America.
Stage 7: Domestic class warfare is compounded by Pentagon’s prediction that by 2020 “an ancient pattern of desperate, all-out wars over food, water, and energy supplies would emerge” worldwide and “warfare is defining human life.”
Obama’s sins of omission are the big news. His failure to pull back on Executive power, for example, insures that the next Republican President will have dictatorial powers. This alone makes Obama the worst President in history.
Thanks, Jane, and kudos for a jolly good show. Keep it up!! You do a very good job explaining issues succinctly. I hope you’re invited onto many more shows on MSNBC and elsewhere. You’re a refreshing breath of truthful fresh air.
Jane is always excellent.
I only saw the part this morning when Joe asked her to explain why some think Obama’s a Socialist, while others think he’s a sellout who bends over for corporate interests.
She should have dismissed the question by saying that she can’t be held responsible for the nonsense others choose to believe before going on to lay out the case for why she and her readers are unhappy and unethusiastic about Obama and the Democrats.
Let the Beckerheads explain why they think Obama’s a Marxist Hitler or whatever.
Good Show! Way to go Jane!
I think I’d rather drive a spike through my left eye than watch LoDo exhibit his condescending, sneering rightwing corporatist shill hackiness on MSNBC. I have no use for his “analysis,” and my observation of him is that he’s very full of himself, very sexist, and a shill for the Obama admin.
Last week he was interviewing Levi Johnston for eff’s sake. No thanks.
LoDo knows very well all about FDL, who we are, what this blog’s all about, and how to pronounce it. He’s just dancing to his corporatist Oligarchich master’s tune by behaving condescending (which is his natural state of being) and “acting” like he doesn’t know anything about FDL. Pull the other one, LoDo.
Meanwhile, over at THE NATION, folks are trying to get the Democrats to at least run on the Social Security issue:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/10/the_democrats_should_run_on_so.html
I cannot get my local representative to commit to not cutting benefits and to not raising the retirement age and to removing the FICA cap. (Murphy, NY-20).
Why should I come out for these fools when I have been begging them to come out strongly against the Commission’s recommendations for cuts?
Real Democrats would not let Rand Paul trade Social Security benefits for keeping Bush tax cuts. They’d be all over this short-sighted eye doctor like white on rice:
Yoo-hoo? Democrats? Where are you???
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/rand-paul-concedes-he-will-cut-medicare-and-social-security-to-pay-for-tax-cuts
I’m not surprised they were so respectful. When they see the grasp Jane has on the process, and the politics being played through the process, that fascinates them. This isn’t just some Dem whiner saying “Obama didn’t do this or that. . . .” It’s a smart person who cuts to the chase about the Democratic Administration and the game they are playing.
Of course, it doesn’t hurt that Dems are divided, either. But, to Jane’s larger point, that’s not the disillusioned Dems fault!
DADT is a piece of the pie. The behavior from leadership is pretty much the same on all issues save a few exceptions.
How do you elect leaders who will truly represent the people? How could an actual populist candidate survive the corporate gauntlet?
Who can be developed to primary President Obama?
Kucinich.
Representative Peter DeFazio of Oregon.
I also am not surprised that they were so respectful of Jane–grasp of the process notwithstanding, the actual thing that intrigues them is the integrity.
Postmodern Politicians like Barry always deal with R.R. “efforts” as if they were results. His claim to be a “fierce advocate” for the LGBT community is not ony to be taken at its word — its’ to be taken as actual action. This is the fantasy world in which he, and every other politican lives in.
If Barry cared he would have gone on National television and addressed the nation on the gay teen suicide epidemic.
But as we all should know by now His “fierce advocate” claim is supposed to cover for the fact that he really doesn’t give a shit.
A piece of very stale pie.
DADT is infinitely less important that ENDA — which as we all know is as dead as Tyler Clementi.
So then maybe good to kick around a few planks of the platform.
I was at an All American Girl pageant this weekend and sat beside an enlisted man’s wife and in the course of discussing aspects of US foreign policy that really suck I said I would sure appreciate it if they would please just stop bombing and killing so many people.
She said, “Oh my God, yes.”
Picked this up in comments at HuffPost – pretty interesting.
http://pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm
I like Peter DeFazio just fine.
Maybe running a platoon against the corporatists–someone for everyone kind of an approach. I’d like someone who said particularly piercing things in the vein of that guy from Florida, Grayson.
I would be happy to work the video for the campaign. How about split screens of Obama swimming around in the Gulf on the right side of the screen and Collateral Murder on the left side of the screen. Anyone who thinks Obama can’t lie like a dog with fleas consider the gall it takes to blame progressive democrats for the perception most people have that President Obama is a corporate shill willing to war monger and sell out for his admission to the club. Sad he will never be a full member with Men’s Room priveliges.
You mean mister Dennis “When my vote actually matters and the Democratic Establishment demands it I will sell out people to the insurance cartels to protect my own career” Kucinich?
Its easy to cast votes against wars and such when ones vote wont actually make a difference and the Democratic Establishment is not demanding it.
When it could have made a difference, when each vote actually mattered, we saw what happened.
Awesome: On point. Concise. True. This one’s gonna leave a mark.
Way to go Jane.
Yep, the same with Sanders and Feingold.
Saw Morening Joe this am, I watch it daily. I must take you to task over the statement that you made about Health Insurance Companies. You stated that they are unregulated monopolies. UNTRUE, and I cannot believe that Joe let you get away with that. Health Insurance Companies are the second most regulated companies, right behind Oil and Natural Gas Companies, and the only reason there is little competition is because they are OVER-REGULATED by both the feds. and the states. Also, most Health Ins,. Companies are non-profits. And you KNOW this. You are spreading propaganda.
Those things that matter to the average person are not regulated, i.e. the prices that they charge (premiums) are not regulated. Furthermore, health insurance companies here are allowed to make a profit. If you compare our health insurance mafia to other countries in which they are even legal (e.g. Germany) the level of regulation here is laughable and inconsequential.
Health insurance companies are protected monopolies. They are exempt from antitrust laws:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Time-to-Repeal-the-Health-by-Ralph-Stone-100621-352.html
What they don’t have is COMPETITION.
Disagree.
I think Kucinich had some misplaced party loyalty. My guess is that he’s learned a lesson.
If he convinced me that he learned a lesson and will play hardball, I would vote for him.
Thanks, Jane, for keeping some sanity and reality in the mix. Deeply appreciated.
Although wrong on most things, Joe Willson made a correct assessment of our Prez and Biden by proxy.
“Anyone who tells people to be silent now is telling you to give up your last chance to fight to keep Congress from voting to reduce the deficit on the backs of senior citizens.”
Smells a tad like fear tactics. You do know Jane that come rain or shine the brutal austerity regime is coming,
Playing us Jane? I don’t think so. What Obama is doing is nothing more than holding us hostage thinking that someday he might repeal DADT.
He should have repealed it on day 1. We all know what the reports are going to look like. They are the same ones they submitted when they wanted to integrate blacks into all-white units. He should have dictated to the military as Cinch. We recently learned who runs the White House regarding Afghanistan and Pakistan. The military and Black Water!
I am sorry, as a progressive this president has lost my backing. His words are as hollow as his actions, and I don’t expect them to change.
Sorry, can’t let you dump on Jane when you haven’t a clue. The Insurance monopolies have been protected under anti-trust for over 64 years.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/02/23/repealing-antitrust-exemption-health-insurance-companies-0
The issue is that Obama did not, nor did Congress! And you really need to let Jane get away with it as she is actually very correct!
Obama is only pro-gay rights for political gain and it is all for show. Personally, he does not support gay marriage (claims to support civil unions as a cop out) and does not really support DADT or he would not be passing it off to Congress where he knows it is likely to be stalled. His personal beliefs are homophobic and thus the false feigned support. The country is overwhelmingly pro-gay rights. This should be an easy lift for him, but his personal beliefs are obvious. He does not support gay rights. He just wants the support of the gays and is lying to get it. He thinks he can play them because they have nowhere else to go. Mr. President, they have the choice of sitting home on Nov. 2.
If he has any personal, moral beliefs I have yet to see them acted upon. I think he is completely lacking both a moral center and the courage to act upon it. And as Ghandi put it, it is impossible for a coward to be moral.
Its represented, apparently, by FireDogLake! And as long as Jane can get airtime, or David Dayen can annoy the corporate media, then at least we have more voice now than we have had for a LONG LONG TIME.
He supports separate but equal. DADT is as much as a 14th Amendment issues as civil unions. “You can serve in the military just like everyone else if you don’t tell.” And, in some ways, like Kelly Canfield said above regarding the rights of women to medical services, getting the health care bill through on the backs of women through an executive order, is separate but equal as well. “You can have all the services just like everyone else if you pay an extra premium that others don’t have to pay.” Separate but equal is the enemy of civil rights.
Of course they lied.
The proof is that Obama appeals every court victory for the gay community.
Jane,
Allow me to offer up a box of tools which I believe you will use with great effectiveness and glee.
The Book: http://www.scribd.com/doc/20987474/Ha-Joon-Chang-Bad-Samaritans
“Bad Samaritans is one of the most valuable English-language critiques of top-down, neoliberal globalization to have emerged in recent years. The book is essentially a more beginner-friendly version of Chang’s 2002 academic work Kicking Away the Ladder: Development Strategy in Historical Perspective (London: Anthem Press), but one that conserves all the meticulous scholarship, sound logic, and intellectual rigor sometimes sacrificed in the name of accessibility. The result is a searing indictment of the “free-trade” policies hypocritically forced upon underdeveloped nations by the governments of rich countries and by Western-dominated financial institutions like the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Chang is hardly the first to raise this sort of critique, but he certainly ranks among the most articulate and most accessible of critics.”
A take down of T.Friedman’s Flat earth view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5-ojv5-b3U
More highly recc’d than even Paul Street!
Just curious. What’s the objective in Nov and 2012? What electable candidate/s will you support to further your movement while avoiding a split Dem vote, thus delivering victory to the GOP? If a GOP victory is your objective, then that clears up the confusion on my part. Critisism is ok, but an onslaught will have long term effects. If you guys were pushing other candidates, I would understand. Regardless of motive, the tea party were able to focus their energy on selecting and electing some of their candidates instead of just tearing down the GOP without a plan B
What you are saying is you believe OBAMA is a democrat?
Please give us some evidence that says Obama the Con Man is a democrat.
What about Obama screams Democrat? besides the corporate media own by rich republicans.
What democrats in 2008 wanted a president that done following?
Ignored the blue print FDR left to get the USA out of a Depression
Expanded the wars in Iraq, Afghan, now to Pakistan
Attacked and killed the Public Option and Drug Importaion
Bail out the Banks and ignored main street
Attack every group in the democratic party
If you are a democrat and love what Obama has done so far, you probably have not heard about the tea party, that loves people like you.
You can’t ignore the fact Polls show Obama is becoming a man that has no Party.
Obama told us to hold him accountable.
remember that? He told us we need to PUSH him, and MAKE him do what he promised to do. While I never liked the idea that he expected us to “push” him since it seems that the votes that gave him the mandate after two years of campaigning and wooing us, would have been the push he needed, I find it ironic that now, as we vocally push and hold him accountable, we are called whiners.
Irritating to no end.
Obama wouldn’t know what the truth was if it bit him on the ass. He makes Nixon look like a choirboy.
On the subject of the successfulness of the Tea Party to date to run counter to the corporate Republicans there seems to have been very little success. Rand Paul, and most of the early guys claiming to want to shake things up, are becoming more like mainstream Republicans on each passing day. That movement itself is now almost completely controlled by the big corporate donors that drove Bush to power and has nearly nothing to do with Ron Paul, the guy that more or less founded it. Taibbi’s Tea and Crackers appears to do a good job of describing the present state. In that respect the liberals and progressives who are critical and currently wary of being taken for a ride once again look to be making the wiser choice.
By not joining the latest scam to posture for change there is a greater likelihood that the energy will not be wasted once again. Call it conservation of energy toward possible future optimism.
That’s the problem with semantics. Much like Frank trolling for donations from gays by telling them that protests do not matter, Obama probably meant “send me money” when he said “push”. In that respect the corporations have been better at pushing than the foundering middle class progressive minority is capable of countering.
Given their piss-warm support for and their sterling record on the various reform bills, I’d say it’s better than even money the sons of bitches lied through their collective teeth.
This may come as a surprise to you, but Obama is not up for reelection this fall. Russ Feingold is.
The better question is, why are you spending your time trying to suppress criticism of the President when there’s no evidence it impacts candidates who ARE on the ballot, many of whom have been trying to save their seats by distancing themselves from the President, rather than supporting Russ Feingold?
It’s something you can remedy here if you like:
https://secure.actblue.com/page/feingold/report
Sorry, the Tea Party is far worse than Obama. They want to privatize Medicare and the VA hospitals. They want to put Medicare money into the stock market, they don’t want anyone to masturbate, and we haven’t even started with abortion or religion. We had 12 years of the Bush’s and 8 of Reagan. You can’t balance a budget and you want to give more to the rich…in deficit!
Wow, many of us actually have college educations and didn’t skip the portion about doing OUR OWN homework!
The Neo Liberal economic agenda of implementing failed economic ideology of Milton Friedman, in the form of the Washington Consensus is their north star. It has been documented as a complete failure, yet it will be visited upon us with vengeance in the beginning of the new year, regardless.
The industry “Health Care Plans” ranks #86 by profit margin (profits/revenue) at 3.3%. Measured by profit margin, there are 85 industries more profitable than Health Care Plans (includes Cigna, Aetna, WellPoint, HealthSpring, etc.).
And isn’t one reason for a lack of competition that competition for health insurance across state lines is prohibited, creating in effect 50 state health insurance “cartels?” Most Blue Cross Blue Shield Plans are not for profit. The reason there is no competition is because of GOVERNMENT OVER-REGULATION.
Let me tell you, I am never afraid of big business, but I am terrified of Big Government. If all of a sudden you want competition, then why didn’t you push for de-regulation and the ability to sell across state lines? But NO, you pushed for Single Payer which is in itself a Government controlled monopoly.
And as far as what they can charge, remember any and all rate changes go in front of Government controlled Public Utility Commissions in every state. All rates MUST be approved by some Government Beaurocracy. The ins. companies must open their books to a bunch of govt. beaurocrats. You know, my husband doesn’t have to go to anyone to get a rate approved. He charges what he charges and the FREE MARKET decides what is tollerable.
The above is fact and not opinion.
Bullshit. Single payer is cheaper and better, no contest, no question, not even close:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_spe_per_per-health-spending-per-person
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html
http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/01/10/us-worst-at-beating-death-from-preventable-illness/
Because the insurance companies would have gone to the state with the least amount of regulation and used that as a basis for selling insurance. Just as the banks have done with credit cards by offering from South Dakota or Delaware based banks due to the (lack of) regulation
As far as the “3.3% profit margin” that really sounds nice except it does not account for the salaries and bonuses for company executives which come out as expenses before the bottomline profits (and are deductible). Most any large business has accountants of varying capability able to make a business look far poorer than it is via “profit margin” in order to keep the taxes down.
Most of the Insurance commissioners in states across the country are part of revolving door between industry and government which pretty much stops the idea of the commissioners being independent.
Free market is anything but free. Or have you not noticed the big businesses poisoning people with those “free market” products and that “free market” that allowed salmonella to be in eggs across the country or the “free market” that has allowed banks to screw people across the board?
Beaurocracy IS the answer!! All hail the leader!
Are you rooting for the economic success story that was Latin America before they rejected the liberalization of their public industry?
Brazil, having kicked the Washington Concensus to the curb, is growing at a 6% clip and lifting large numbers of the poor into the middle class. We’re already going in reverse, and that’s even before those prescriptions will be intensely visited upon us.
Obama is really your type of guy.
Check the spelling in the line I highlighted, and click the link. Snark tags are such tedium.
WOW!!!
Danw5 “Sorry, the Tea Party is far worse than Obama”
1st Obama endorses the Bush agenda of spying on and killing americans
2nd Obama attacks Unions (the F! the UAW moment screams republican)
3rd Obama double downs on Bush Wars, (now they are Obama wars)
4th Obama attacks Teacher Unions (teacher unions now hate OBAMA)
5th Obama does not attack the Banks? he bails them out? (sorta like what the GOP does)
6th Obama passes the Bob Dole Health Care Bill (Bob Dole is a republican)
7th Obama kills the Public Option
8Th Obama kills Drug Importation
9Th Obama APPOINTS an insurance executive to manage his health care Bill (written by Bob Dole a republican)
10th Obama does not APPOINT Dawn Johnsen
11th Obama hand picks the cat food commission to destroy Social Security
12th Obama supports Blanche Lincoln, a candidate who hates Unions, and has no chance of winning
Danw5 I hope the 12 points above help you complete your home work about Obama.
Is Obama a tea party follower? Just asking, because he is not a real democrat.
LOL.
Jane, the White House doesn’t get played. It does the playing. Simply put, the mother****ers lied — AGAIN.
Ms. Hamsher, you allowed Joe Scarborough to associate you with Huffington Post but not this website. I also noted where you started the tape, after your introduction. After reading these comments; I can understand why. One can disagree and still maintain civility. So much for One Nation. I am not a blind leader of President Obama. I did not vote for President Bush or agreed with his policies but I respected him as our president. When did we stop being adults?
With all due respect you appear so eager to respond and insult that you absolutely mischaracterized what I said. I did not say or imply that the Prez is up for reelection this year, nor am I trying to suppress criticism of him. For someone who will demand apologies when misquoted, this is surprising.
My comments were forward looking, and taking into account the impact a GOP congress would have on the country leading up to 2012. So again I say, criticism is ok, but considering the timing, intensity, frequency, and the impact it can have, it all appears counter-productive if you wish to preserve democratic values, or any resemblance of it. We will disagree on the possible impact of the “screw Obama and his admin” campaign, but only time will tell…
You do know a below average democrat could have kept the GOP in exile!
If you open your mind a little bit, you may find out what a lot of us already know, Obama is not playing for the democratic team, he is a trojan horse.
Obama and the phony dems had a simple strategy to keep the USA moving in a rightward direction. Obama would attack and piss off the democratic base every chance he had, to depress the democratic voting base.
Obama wants to work with the Tea Party/GOP congress (you do know the corporate media is own by rich republicans)
A below average democratic president would have made fixing the economy and main street JOB 1, JOB 2 amd JOB 3!!! and destroyed the GOP.
Not Obama! the con man, he came up with the idea of forcing everybody to buy health insurance during a depression? can you say INSANE!
We call this the OBAMA Hope A Dope!
I’m not surprised they were so respectful. When they see the grasp Jane has on the process, and the politics being played through the process, that fascinates them. This isn’t just some Dem whiner saying “Obama didn’t do this or that…
Yeah, this is true. Jane really is Royce Gracie of political pundits (He had 30 guys from the battalion and he went down the row and beat each dude individually in a row, no breaks, and he was barely breaking a sweat by the end)
http://www.army.mil/-news/2008/06/27/10431-army-combatives-training-is-helping-todays-soldier-become-more-effective/
And as far as what they can charge, remember any and all rate changes go in front of Government controlled Public Utility Commissions in every state. All rates MUST be approved by some Government Beaurocracy. The ins. companies must open their books to a bunch of govt. beaurocrats
I’m sorry if there was a snark tag and I missed it, but of course this isn’t true– California is also what’s known as a “file and use state,” meaning insurers can increase rates in the individual market without state approval.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1964988,00.html
If that is true how did Clinton balance 3 budgets, leave a budget surplus, didn’t double the National Debt, started no wars and create 22 million jobs and a healthy market. It didn’t go in the tank until after 6 years of massive deficit Bush.
If what you claim is accurate, why is it you can’t seem to do any of them?
While I have issues with Obama, I intend to vote Democratic, not for some nutcase!
I am seeing this discussion playing out again and again on the left:
Is Obama corrupt, or incompetent?
I mean, that’s pretty much what’s left, right? Either he’s just foolish and unable to do politics at ALL and thus keeps getting outplayed, again, and again, and again by those master strategists on the right, or he is in fact fairly clever and the direction that we’re heading — pro-business, pro-catfood-commission, anti-civil liberties, anti-social justice, pro-war, pro-authoritarianism, anti-gay, anti-immigrant — is exactly the direction he wants us to head.
I don’t ascribe magical powers to the man; he DOES just represent one branch of government in a (supposedly) three-branch system. But he’s shown no qualms in seizing power when it suits him, and even within the constraints of our democracy he’s still the head of one branch of government and the titular head of the Democratic party. He holds a LOT of power, so the “he’s powerless to do anything” argument just doesn’t hold water, in my opinion.
I don’t want to be accused of creating a false dichotomy, but I’m at a loss to see what the other realistic alternatives are beyond incompetent or fundamentally corrupt.
Perhaps it is because it was Bush who bailed out the banks.
I don’t agree with a lot of what Obama has done, I would not have voted for Obama if Clinton had won the primary.
I think it is people like you, and Jane, and the readers who respond with well found criticism of the Obama administration, that can perhaps change his course. That is if he really wants to run fior president again.
I have the same criticisms of Obama that you do, and that he is a war criminal for his failure to prosecute Bush. That does not mean I am not going to try and change the message Obama gets, and perhaps responds to. I have no qualms about trying to step on his toes. If you read my post’s I think you will find that I am very consistant on that basis.
That does not mean I want to see crazy people in the US Senate. We have enough there already!
Obama is one and done. I won’t support him, my blue-dog democrats or anyone who isn’t straight-up, uncompromisingly progressive with my vote. I’m not going to engage in lever yanking or playing “team democrat.” As we can see, if you do that what you get is Obama and the Blue Dogs deliberate sabotage of the progressive cause as they sell-out to corporate America.
As for me, I’m willing to suffer the losses but for those who are truly progressive. My wife and I, in order to protect our interests, have sent money to Feingold, Grayson and that Oregon guy… Man, I’m having a brain-fart… Anyway, they’re all progressives, being progressive and have been targeted by the Regressives.
Anyway, those are the people I will support. Not Obama. Not any blue dogs. Better to purge the party now and get ready for a 2014 comeback than to stay in bed with those disease ridden whores.
Corrupt. The answer is corrupt. He’s been like this since he was a legislator in Illinois. I kept saying it. The bots told me I was full of crap.
I was right. One-hundred-percent right. He’s been a Republican-light, corporate whore who makes pretty speeches then acts the way he’s been acting now his entire career.
He’s disgusting.