Democrats were extra proud when they put a requirement that insurance companies cover children with pre-existing conditions in their new health care law. Now, I bet the CEOs at the country’s largest for-profit insurance companies are even more proud of themselves for easily finding a way around this regulation: simply stop offering child-only policies. From the Denver Post:
At least six major companies — including Anthem, Aetna, Cigna and Humana — have said they will stop writing new policies for individual children not covered by their parents’ or other plans, insurance officials said.
They blamed health reform mandates taking effect Thursday requiring companies that write such policies as of that date to also cover sick children up to age 19.
Of course, President Obama and the rest of the Democrats have already begun pretending to shake their fists in anger at the insurance companies for being evil and putting profits over people. From the Washington Post:
But officials of the Obama administration said the move contradicted a letter from the leader of one of the insurance industry’s most important trade groups after the law’s adoption in March. Karen Ignagni, president of America’s Health Insurance Plans, expressed support for the law’s provisions concerning children with preexisting conditions and promised to “fully comply” with them.
“We expect [insurance companies] to honor that commitment. Insurers shouldn’t break their promise and turn their backs on some of our most vulnerable Americans,” said Jessica Santillo, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services.
Frankly, the complaining from Obama is just sad. Either it is hollow grandstanding, or Obama actually thought that the private, for-profit health insurance companies were honest brokers he could trust to not try to find loopholes in the new regulations. If it is the latter, President Obama’s much-touted intellect needs a reevaluation.
At this point, for Democrats to blame the for-profit insurance companies is pathetic. Private insurers are the scorpion in the story of turtle and the scorpion. They have proven for decades they will do anything to avoid regulation, and will always put profits over the health care needs of regular Americans. Heck, by law, as for-profit corporations, they are required to put profits over everything else. Democrats let insurance companies hop on their back, and now they are smack-dab in the middle of the river with them. Don’t scream when they sting you–it is just their nature.
Of course, watching this recent action should fill all Americans with dread. Democrats actually chose to expand coverage to millions by forcing them to buy insurance exclusively from these same misbehaving private companies. If Democrats really believe the job of the government is to insure every American, then they should have had the government do it directly–and more cost effectively–through expanding Medicare for all or a public option, instead of outsourcing it to untrustworthy private insurers that put profits before people.
Signs don’t point to sunny skies ahead
This most recent revelation, cutting out new child policies, combined with the latest massive and apparently unstoppable rate hikes is just more proof of what I spent months warning about: the new law leaves the health insurance companies completely unchecked and the regulations are almost meaningless due to a lack proper enforcement. Frankly, given the billions at stake, and the drive of the for-profit insurance companies to maximize profits, I don’t even know of a really well-designed regulator system could prevent insurers continuing to exploit loopholes.
This might be one of the first examples how, due to poor design, weak regulation, and weaker enforcement, the new law fails to live up to expectations, but I promise you (as someone who read the entire law thoroughly, which apparently even Sen. Max Baucus didn’t) it won’t be the last.



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Seriously?
This is how the administration is reacting to this…saying the insurance corps PROMISED to play fair?
I cannot buy that the administration is that stupid or trusting. They knew this was going to happen. Why they were OK with it knowing it would hurt Democrats winning elections at some point in the future is beyond me.
I’m sure that Mark Kleiman has a perfectly sensible explanation for this.
I agree with you
It did not take rocket scientist to see this coming.
Insurance companies exist for one reason to make money. WOW who knew?
Obama the Con Man strikes again!
the Obama Hope a Dope continues
Obama betrayed us up front to cut behind-the-scene deals with these people.
Now they are betraying him… just in time for midterms.
Duh.
But Obama thought the health care companies would do the right thing because corporations are all smart people and never do anything immoral or unethical.
This reminds me of how Obama thought BP had a plan for a massive oil spill and would take care of it effeciently without too much trouble. He was “surprised” when they didn’t.
Obama’s naiveite is dangerous.
What you sow,you shall reap , Obama will soon be covered in wheat and I hope he chokes on it
Barack Obama has become the Alibi Ike of American politics.
It’s a serious failing of Internet news analysis that you weren’t awarded paramount recognition for your HRC coverage, it was the best on the internet – BY FAR.
I’m not conspiritorial by nature but it seemed to me that you were on the very top of the Obama White House HCR reading list to “refute as best you can, but do not reference so as to raise awareness of the source”.
It’s inexplicable that, after all Obama has done & not done in his two years as President, anyone would refer to him as “naive”. Sorry, I just don’t get it.
Well, it’s either dumb or duplicitous.
Either way, it does not speak well of him.
Lawyer up O cause the Tea Party and Rep. Issa will soon be asking for your Birth cert among other documents. Your next two yrs. are going to be a legal nightmare. Of course you’ll blame us not them.
Obama is a grifter. Sick kids covered, not covered, he doesn’t give a rat’s ass. As long as he doesn’t screw up his corporate parachute and can convince 51% of the people to believe his bullshit…..Mission Accomplished.
Second that. Jon has been amazing.
The law does not say they must be carnivorous birds-of-prey as well.
Of course Public Option was the only way to stop the damned insurance companies from acting like unregulated corporations…now who woulda guessed.
thank you both
Nationalize the f**kers!
Colour me fuckin’ surprised. Not.
So much for that diabolical blood pact the White House made with PhRMA.
This is exactly what I knew would happen. I kept telling all my dem loyalists friends that if our government can’t fucking regulate the financial sector, just how in the holy fuck of fuck are they going to force the health insurance industry to comply with the rules of the Insurance Giveaway Mandatory Compliance Act?
They would say to me “well do you want insurance or not”…
And I would always reply….”mark my words…you’ll be paying, but wait, you won’t be covered for shit. Big Insurance will find a way to fuck you and the government will do precisely dick”.
From Kevin Baker’s Barack Hoover Obama: The best and the brightest blow it again. A great read.
It appears that executive pay is put before anything else.
I agree. The “Obama Deception” continues (tin-foil warning, but big-picture accurate): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
Obama was, is, and will always be a servant of the banksters and war pigs. These “regulations” are being feverishly written by the same criminal lobbyists who wrecked HCR in the first place, and will do what they’re intended to do: Get the taxpayer’s money without putting any responsibility on the healthcare-denial thieves in return. The “scorpion” analogy is perfect: How could anyone expect anything different?
“Hope-a-Dope”: Cute :-)
The surprise is coming Nov. 2nd.
To paraphrase Truman:
The voters will prefer republicans being honest corporate assholes to democrats being dishonest corporate assholes, every time.
Don’t worry, everyone. The Dem’s shiny new logo will fix everything.
Gosh, I can’t wait to hear Obama start that snickering attack against professional leftists who complain there was no public option again. I just laugh and laugh everytime he goes into that routine!
That bullshit new logo just illustrates how the dems are more and more admitting that they are a pretend opposition party. Just a brand.
Hell, worked for Obama.
from Jon’s Baucus Didn’t Read the Bill link
Top . . . Men
OT from Pat Lang: “Obama battles with advisers over Afghan exit plan”
After quoting a WaPo piece about the military’s refusal to respond to President Obama’s request last year for a viable Afghanistan exit plan, the retired colonel sums it up thus:
Corporations have no honor. Congress has enslaved the American people to…. for profit and tax exempt health insurers and tax exempt and for profit providers under the color of tax law. This is unconstitutional. This clearly violates the protections afforded “PEOPLE,” from involuntary servitude and slavery. The use of a state tax or IRS tax code to penalize people who cannot afford raping relationships with corporations, to levy a financial punitive tax penalty upon the citizen is unconstitutional. 13th Amendment protection along with equal protection for people and families is being eviscerate under the color of law. This law is akin to a fugitive slave law whose intent was to perpetuate slavery and the interests of slave owners. There is no difference here….. Politicians are protecting the very corporate interest which rape the republic and fund the politicians with cash to produce, however well intentioned, a fucked up.
Its funny , government can now intrude into the private life of Americans to protect a “Legitimate Government interest” but when it come to protecting people from energy whores, financial whores, bank whores, insurance whores, they choose to protect the whores! Jefferson is correct! Fuck them all!!!! Modern day non discrimination all encompassing pro corporate JIM CROWS LAWS designed to ensalve America to the modern day slave owners “CORPORATIONS.” You leave one opening for these slime to screw people and they will! Ask Dred Scott, Justice Roberts?
Not to worry, Jon. The new Republican Congress will almost certainly work as hard as it can to fix health care “reform.” But what do I know, I’m just a F****** Retard.
OT, it appears Mr. Bipartisan would like to appoint a corporatist from Xerox as Summers replacement. The only reason Summers is leaving Obama’s awesome economic team is if doesn’t return to Harvard by January he looses his tenure.
New post up top…
Jon,
Have you talked with Jane about the possibility of trying to reopen efforts to push for a public option? Obviously, the insurers have not acted in good faith.
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Our economy is slowly dying, it is kept alive artificially. No one is proposing a solution because no one has the slightest idea of why it is happening and many have vested interest in the present system. However an objective observation of the phenomenon can help us understand it and provide us with an innovative solution. Of course we can’t solve the problem with the tools that brought us there in the first place and we need a new ideology.
_______________________________
- Do you feel that your ideology pushed you to make decisions that you wish you had not made?
- Well, remember that what an ideology is, is a conceptual framework with the way people deal with reality. Everyone has one. You have to — to exist, you need an ideology. The question is whether it is accurate or not. And what I’m saying to you is, yes, I found a flaw. I don’t know how significant or permanent it is, but I’ve been very distressed by that fact.
- You found a flaw in the reality…(!!!???)
- Flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.
- In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right, it was not working?
- That is — precisely. No, that’s precisely the reason I was shocked, because I had been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.
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An Innovative Credit Free, Free Market, Post Crash Economy
A Tract on Monetary Reform
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“…the complaining from Obama is just sad …”
Pathetic is more like it. The only surprise here is that anyone is surprised.
Even before the HCR debate I said that we are headed for a system where the private insurance companies profit from insuring the healthy while the taxpayer picks up the cost of insuring the sick.
Well done Dims.
That’s the line that keeps on giving where this administration is concerned. I see that box on the dolly every time.
The hell with the public option. Medicare-for-all or bust. No fuckin’ half steps this time round.
FWIW, my cut is that Obama is an appeaser, through and through. He thought they would let him be a successful president if he gave them what they wanted. Well, they got what they wanted and now they’re coming after him.
yep. have been referring to them as The Best and the Brightest 2.0 for the last 18 months :D
Obama makes Neville Chamberlain look like a pillar of strength.
I keep meaning to go back and re read some of the pieces about his election to the Harvard Law Review – eerily familiar m.o. . .
C’mon now, Nancy Pelosi told us that the bill would have to be passed so that we could see what was in it. And she was right.
That’s really what Rahm’s strength was: He knew exactly what the other side wanted, so fuck what we wanted. He and Barry were too cute by half — thought they could deal with the devil.
Remember when the loonies called Obama the Antichrist? Turns out that was right on the money, if you understand the meaning of the term. Obama is the Democratic Antichrist, absolutely, the agent of destruction for all old ways held dear. The betrayal is total and crazy-making…
(Unless one moves on, out into the light of a brand new day.)
I’d take that too.
Of course she did! And, technically, they are “fully comply(ing)” with them. They just choose not to be in that market! See, business decision!
Really, just what are those clowns in the Obama administration smoking? This is what we’re supposed to be grateful for? I suppose their next excuse will be the standard “no one could have anticipated that!” excuse. Of course many in real time did see this coming but were told to STFU by Rahm and Max.
These guys are Super Geniuses–in the Wile E. Coyote mold.
Please don’t let Obama off the hook by questioning his intelligence. I am a fucking janitor and I saw this coming clearly and in high relief. Obama is devious, and not in a good way. He always knows what he is doing and he always says he is doing something else.
btw. Did you know if you type dong instead of doing the spell checker won’t catch it?
No one has yet mentioned the rationale the insurance companies are giving for no longer writing child only policies. They are claiming that parents will scam the system by letting their children get really sick before buying insurance for them.
I’ve been a parent for 21 years and can’t imagine telling my kids, “Sorry honey, I know you feel like crap but you just aren’t sick enough yet.”
What kind of people do these corporate insurance decision makers think we are? Oh, they must think we feel the same way about our children that they do, “Fuck ‘em, they cost too much.”
Here is a great quote from Abraham Lincoln that perfectly describes the state of the nation today:
“The assertion that “all men are created equal” was of no practical use in effecting our separation from Great Britain; and it was placed in the Declaration, not for that, but for future use. Its authors meant it to be, thank God, it is now proving itself, a stumbling block to those who in after times might seek to turn a free people back into the hateful paths of despotism. They knew the proneness of prosperity to breed tyrants, and they meant when such should re-appear in this fair land and commence their vocation they should find left for them at last one hard nut to crack.”
Abraham Lincoln
Chicago, 1857
Now that’s not very nice. This was, after all, the exact same prerogative held by FDL’s very own HCR specialist; Jason Rosenbaum. I never recall any other FDL staff calling this out when it was the narrative being amplified by this very site.
Many people – i.e. including children – will die because of this POS “accomplishment”. Disgusting.
Well, I don’t see much appeasing when it comes to the actual Democrats of the Democratic party.
Obama to Progressives: “We’re going to need that red stapler.”
Jon, the President doesn’t think you understand the bill and that is why you don’t like it. If you were smart like him you would understand it and praise him for his greatness. From an AP article:
The O around the D means Obama Owns The Democratic Party. (L’Etat, c’est Moi).
This can’t be true because it makes Josh Marshall feel confused.
Jason did get beat on in comments quite often, though.
Obama cut the Prescription Drug deal with Billy Tauzin(R-Chief Lobbyist PHRMA) just twelve months ago. The government and its citizens must pay whatever prices Billy says.
That was the beginning of the end of the Democrats Dirty dealing. Now the R’s will return and fuck us again Dubya style.
Pelosi, on NPR last evening, said over and over and over that the bad actions of the Big Health Insurers (huge rate increases, cutting off child only plans, ad nauseum) would be held in check by the part of the law stating bad actors could not be part of the health insurance exchanges.
Riiiiiight, that’ll keep them on the righteous path.
Well, for them, righteousness is making as much money as possible. And they seem pretty cockily greedy, so they must not be too worried about not being able to get those millions of newly mandated customers, eh?
Yup — insure the healthy until they’re not; leave the rest for the government to, somehow, cover. And with Repub governments? OMG, we’re heading more rapidly to a Third World nation status than I could have ever believed. Altho’ I’ve been saying for decades the Repubs want a Third World economy here, with a vast army of the unemployed and underemployed, a small but precarious middle and professional class, and the Uberwealthy in their gated communities and island enclaves, I think I believed the American people would never let it get quite that far.
But, Americans seem to be quite easily gulled into voting for bright shiny candidates…. In NY, Carl Paladino has, since the primary, risen to within 7 points of Andrew Cuomo. Now, Cuomo has been sounding more and more like a New Democrat, talking about cuts,retraints, and labor givebacks, so perhaps New Yorkers have noted they may not know what they guy will do as governor. Also, Cuomo hasn’t been saying much at all…and with Paladino at least they get great quips or some real groaners. NY may have its own Jesse Ventura. Crikey.
(Oooooh! Just heard on NPR Obama is criticizing the health insurers who won’t offer the kid only plans. Oooooh, they’re cringing. Or, they’ll compromise and offer the plans at prices that are beyond ability of most Americans to pay.)
Hey, the implication of your statement is that janitors aren’t smart. While that may be true for some, you are evidence that it’s certainly not true for all. And W proved that being president doesn’t automatically make a person smart.
Obama talks a lot about Medicare cost reduction – but not a word about repealing that no-negotiation clause for drug prices.
I agree with you!
Obama is no dummy!
Obama is intentionally doing stupid Sh$T to destroy the democratic party
Please let stop calling Obama a democrat!
FDR, JFK, LBJ, Ted Kennedy, are all rolling over in their graves. Obama is a trojan horse, nothing else. What about Obama screams democrat?
Obama, Max Baucus, and the other crooks that have invaded the democratic party as republican trojan horses, knew the health insurance crooks would do this when they wrote the bill. (let not forget the Obama health care bill was written by insurance executives)
The Obama Hope A Dope continues!
Coming this fall, Obama saves Social Security, by cutting Social Security!
Ugh, I know. Just think: the biggest betrayal is still yet to come.
Yes, usually by selise, letsgetitdone, hctomorrow, myself and a handful of others. None of us are on the editorial board here, and nothing was done officially to curb the claptrap that was being promoted in the face of all reason. If interested commenters hadn’t taken it on themselves to dismantle it, it looked like pretty much nobody would have.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/35933#comment-160891
Wow, that “Hoover Obama” article is amazing. That guy called it on the nose just 3 months into this administration.
Obama, the stealth republican is looking less stealthy these days. The fact that congressmen have to petition him to not cut social security speaks volumes.
So who’s worse, Bush or Obama? Seriously!
completely incompetent policymakers who only protect corporations’ profiteering.
A “commitment”? They expect companies to stick to a mere commitment?
This is why we have these things called LAWS.
“the new law leaves the health insurance companies completely unchecked and the regulations are almost meaningless due to
a lack proper enforcement.”That’s all we have for lawmaking right now. Write a 20 page reform bill, augment it to 2000 pages chock full of loopholes and give aways, make sure that enforcement as well as fines are negligible, and voila.
fuckers!
I really think it is the latter. Someone linked to this article comparing Orahma to Herbert Hoover yesterday, three sentences stood out:
I think Orahma lacks the “mental suppleness” to recognize that the sort of folks he hung out with and admired in the Ninties are essentially criminals.
No more sympathy for Obama of any kind. No more toying with the idea that he didn’t know better, or he thought the ins co’s would be honest players at the table. That’s DONE!!!
He has proven conclusively to either be the biggest moron to ever inhabit the WH, or to be one of the most craven assholes to inhabit the WH.
Atleast Bush had the good taste to flaunt his assholishness. He played up his stupidity, his cowboyness. He didn’t try to hide the fact that he was a stupid, evil prick. He reveled in it and promoted it as a good thing. You knew where you stood with the guy.
Obama is much more dangerous in that he is sly, devious, and cunning. He makes you think he’s on your side, but he’s actually stabbing you in the back every chance he gets.
Jon,
You’re a fucking retard.
Love,
Rahm
Ha Ha, I’ve seen people with more foresight and street smarts on “16 and Pregnant”. This isn’t going to get better for the Administration.
There is no surprise – I hate it when Obama lies and shows that he thinks we have no memory.
A year of discussing the reason for a mandate – and the reason for risk pooling – namely to make sure no massive cost increase for the insurance companies and more importantly the stopping of any one company getting hit while its competitors do not – resulted in a mandate and risk pools – but nothing for the kids wanting to get on their own policy – and that last item is one where there can be massive losses and those loses affect only one company. Obama knew all of this.
To pretend otherwise is to rub salt in the wound of no public option.
Agreed, Jon’s coverage rocked and damn if he didn’t write an awful lot. Just on a per-word basis, I wonder how many NY Times op-ed writers he lapped.
However, it did get annoying when, more than few times, I’d be struck with some (IMHO) insightful point about HCR reform,then later on, I’d stumble upon something Jon had already written making the same point that I’d forgotten I’d read. Jerk! :o)
Seriously though, I’d be curious to hear from Jon (without naming names or identifying job titles or anything) what kind of feedback he was getting from the Hill and/or the Administration while he was kicking the crap out of the Obamanauts for months on end.
Corporate health insurance CEO’s can’t be trusted?! I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you …
“But officials of the Obama administration said the move contradicted a letter from the leader of one of the insurance industry’s most important trade groups after the law’s adoption in March. Karen Ignagni, president of America’s Health Insurance Plans, expressed support for the law’s provisions concerning children with preexisting conditions and promised to “fully comply” with them.”
Hey Mr. Obama, I have some swampland in Florida I’d like to sell you. Really, these guys are surprised the vampires draining billions from the American people were going to “do the right thing”, really! They expect the insurance vampires to keep their committment. I thought we elected the smart one, apparently not. Can somebody please tell me if Obama was born yesterday, or this morning, because he has to be either the most naive person on planet earth, or he knew this would happen, but thought he could survive the fallout with enough campaign dollars from these very same vampires and fool the American people with enough misleading ads. Either way, we, the American people, are the ones who are screwed again!
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN MY ASS!
klynn, about reopening public option fight (building on the starter house, if you will)… big problem is that the Democrats are about to get clobbered in the midterm. Couple of ways forward next Congress. 1. Make a deal with the Republicans, trade individual mandate (which everybody hates) for voluntary public option (Medicare buy-in, say) or, worse case, trade mandate for states’ right to set up their own public option/single payer system immediately without needing an ERISA waiver.
Why would the Republicans agree to that? Because there’s really nothing to defund till 2014. If the GOP wants to gut Obamacare next year and kill it dead, they need to do two things, 1. pass a bill– Republicans alone could can do that AND 2. override a presidential veto with two-thirds of both Houses, that will require Republican and Democrats voting together.
Of course, if Democrats somehow keep both Houses of Congress, they should be a little more forward leaning. Forget about a “Medicare buy-in”, check out how Max Baucus penciled in Medicare eligibility (dropping the 65 and older age requirement) for the residents of Libby MT (tragic story, and I don’t fault Baucus for getting them signed up with Medicare within two months of bill signing. I fault him for not offering the same deal to everyone). Anyway, that section of the HCR bill is the starter house to build on.
in any case. And how can you compare a climber like Obama to Hoover? Hoover took the political fall for the Depression and that may be largely deserved, but look at what the man did before he retired to public service. Retired to public service being the operative phrase. Hoover never seems to have been a politician in the common sense of the term; Obama has only been a politician in the common sense of the term. That’s how he got the presidency at Harvard Law Review, for heaven’s sake. Obama is no Hoover.
Yes, Barack, corporations do lie. This ain’t Harvard. This is the big time with the big boys, who mean business, not promises. They will eat you for lunch if you turn your back.
“(as someone who read the entire law thoroughly, which apparently even Sen. Max Baucus didn’t)”
Who needs to read it when you can have industry lobbyists write it for you? They know what they’re talking about, don’t they?
It’s not like they’re f*cking retards.
Obama is no Hoover.
LOL, Good point about Hoover. Until I read that Kevin Baker piece, I didn’t realize he was such an interesting fellow. Got to hand it to Obama, who else could make Herbert Hoover look like a great guy by comparison? :)