Health care reform has steadily decreased in popularity since its passage. The Kaiser tracking poll (PDF) has generally had most positive numbers for health care reform, but even this poll now shows the law losing support. In August they found only 43% held a favorable opinion of the new law while 45% viewed it unfavorably. This is a significant drop since July (50% favorable – 35% unfavorable) and May (48% favorable – 35% unfavorable).
There was serious effort on the part of the Obama administration, Democratic leadership and some left-leaning writers to convince people the highly-debated bill would magically become popular simply because it was signed into a law. Clearly this has not been the case as the polling data reveals.
Some provisions are popular while others are highly unpopular. At 75%, a large majority of voters hold a favorable opinion of federal subsidies to help people afford buying health insurance. And at 71%, an almost equally large majority favors expanding Medicaid, the government-run health care program for low-income Americans. Sentiment is nearly evenly divided on the employer mandate (52% favorable – 47% unfavorable) but the American people are firmly against the individual mandate. Not only do a full 80% of all voters have an unfavorable view of the individual mandate but a majority of voters (52%) has a very unfavorable opinion of the provision.
The poll indicates that the overwhelming 71% of voters who favored Missouri’s anti-individual mandate Proposition C during the primary was not a fluke produced by contested Republican races. The individual mandate is deeply and extremely unpopular. Why Democrats fought so hard to include this provision which could have been replaced by far less objectionable alternatives is beyond comprehension. It seems even putting all the currently uninsured on Medicaid would likely have been a much more popular option. Using the IRS to force Americans to buy a product from one of the most unpopular industries in America is so clearly a terrible idea that Democratic congressional candidates in contested races should think about suing the White House and their leadership for gross political malpractice. (If only some progressive blog had warned them about how unpopular the individual mandate would be without a public option.)
The “good” news for Democrats is that the health care law itself might not have a huge impact on this upcoming general election. The poll found health care reform is only the third most important issue behind the economy and dissatisfaction with the government. Voters are much more concerned about other policy areas, but those are areas where they also think Democrats have failed. While 30% of those polled said they would be more likely to vote a member of Congress that voted for health care reform and 33% said they would be less likely, many of these are likely die-hard partisans who wouldn’t have crossed party lines anyhow.



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If only some progressive blog had warned them… Heh.
Jon, how many times each day do you have to bite your tongue (er, fingers) to stop from saying “I told you so”. You have been offering dead on the money advice ever since you joined FDL, only to be ignored by those in most need of it. It has to wear on you a bit. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for all of your efforts on our behalf and please keep up the good work!
“Why Democrats fought so hard to include this provision which could have been replaced by far less objectionable alternatives is beyond comprehension.”
It Is!?!?!? Seems perfectly clear to me.
If only HIR had been he only big mistake the Administration had made. It only adds to the pile of animosity that many of Obama’s former supporters have toward him now. I noticed at pollster.com that only 78 percent of Democrats now approve of his performance. It was around 91 percent approval immediately after the election. The Dems and Obama were hanging fairly even with the Repugs until about April when the realization was dawning on the country that the economy was not getting better and the BP oil spill was unfolding. I think it outrageous that the Administration is helping BP to cover up the damaging effects of the spill. The mandate is just another brick in the wall.
yes, that was the ultimate condition imposed on any bill by the insurance industry, thats why it was never even negotiable. compare Obamas words to his actions. he SAID he was committed to a public option (whatever that was) but the PO was always just a bargaining chip at best, a bait for progressive most likely, never meant to be part of any bill. Obama SAID he was completly against mandates but the individual mandate was a precondition for any support the industry gave to the effort and was never even negotiable. Obama says vs Obama does = 180 degrees of difference
I would say that the individual mandate is the cornerstone in the wall
I don’t know why anyone is that surprised that the Dems. managed to blow their mandate? They essentially did the same thing in 1994 as well and Clinton then proceeded to rule as a moderate Goper the next 6 yrs. He had no trouble passing almost anything the Gopers put in front of him and they still Impeached him anyway. Obama will do the same and not survive past 2012. In Clinton’s time the Internet was only starting and the blogosphere didn’t even exist.
What phred said!
That sums it up in a nutshell. Partisans will vote for their respective parties regardless of their perceived job performance. What the Dems have done by pursuing the wrong objectives (Wall St. bailouts, etc.) or the right objectives in the wrong way (HCR with mandate but WITHOUT effective cost controls) is lose the independent voters who gave them large margins in the last two election cycles.
“The poll indicates that the overwhelming 71% of voters who favored Missouri’s anti-individual mandate Proposition C during the primary was not a fluke produced by contested Republican races.”
Its funny, here on FDL, you had Obamabots claiming that it was a hot day in MO and the democrats stayed home. Or it was just a primary so no democrats showed up. Excuses, excuses. That “thing” is a piece of sh*t. Nobody wanted it. Time wasted when the economy should have been a focus.
Like the great Walter Sobcheck said, ” Dude, they are fucking amateurs!”
Because that was the single most important reform insurers wanted.
And cheaper too, but not the reform the providers wanted.
After a year of contemplating this fiasco I have concluded that the whole purpose of this bill was to keep the uninsured from using emergency rooms and then not being able to collect fees from them. Obamarahma and the health care mafia they represent (insurance companies, the pharmaceutical cartel) know that it is politically untenable to simply close the only health care option available to the poor (there are limits to how inhumane even the US system can get away with without being embarrassed as a country), but on the other hand they didn’t want an efficient single payer system because that too will cost them money. Using the IRS to shake down the poor was viewed as the only viable way to make the poor pay for health care. It sounds like a conspiracy theory but it is no more wacky than the notion that they actually believed the individual mandate would be tolerable by most of us.
It’s scary how “Well, duh” concepts sail straight past folks that are supposed to be smart.
What? People dislike being fed into the maw of a rapacious system that has zero cost controls and no cheaper drug importation? They dislike being forced, under pain of fines, to participate in something they likely can’t afford in the first place?
I’m shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.
Why is it mandatory?
President Obama, March 3, 2010:
“Unless everyone has access to affordable coverage, you can’t prevent insurance companies from denying coverage based on preexisting conditions; you can’t limit the amount families are forced to pay out of their own pockets. The insurance reforms rest on everybody having access to coverage. And you also don’t do anything about the fact that taxpayers currently end up subsidizing the uninsured when they’re forced to go to the emergency room for care, to the tune of about a thousand bucks per family. You can’t get those savings if those people are still going to the emergency room. So the fact is, health reform only works if you take care of all of these problems at once.”
Well then, the next time the auto industry is in trouble, how about a mandate to purchase an automobile? Good cause, right?
Or the next time the country gets hit with a natural or man made disaster, mandate everyone give $1000 to the charity of their choice. Good cause right?
Or, hell, every year there’s need, so why not mandate everyone give $1,000 to the charity of their choice now?? Damned good cause.
Or I could go on and on and on.
No way, in a supposed free country with a “limited” government by a Constituion can that government force people to purchase a good or product.
And this oldfatguy will fight it till he dies, even if a large flock of the population are sheep and don’t give a shit about freedom or what’s right. And part of fighting it is voting against any and all who Congressmen that voted for this mandate, including the President who signed it.
Yuh know, I don’t think the people put this turd of a health care bill together, including the individual mandate, just did not give a fuck whether the victims liked it or not.
Wonder what the difference in price/taxes would be if I were paying into Single Payer as opposed to whatever my price will be if AHA goes through?
Yeah, that is the theory I have heard from Obamarahma apologists over on HP for the past year, patronizing lectures about the theory of insurance, spreading risk and how “everyone must have some skin in the game”. But I do not want or need health insurance, I want health care. And I am not interested in paying the extra 18% on overhead for insurance company profits, executive bonuses etc. that we pay and the Canadians do not (Canada pays only 4% for overhead, we pay 22%). That is around $200 billion, or far more than is necessary to cover those currently without access to health care in a single payer system.
Canada spends around 8% of GDP on health care and we spend around 16%; the difference is almost a trillion dollars in the US. Divide a trillion by 300 million people and you will see how much we would save with single payer per person, while at the same time we would be a healthier people.
OT: I wanted to second the post of phred above. And then I wanted to ask if you’re going to be doing any posting on the “extending the Bush Tax Cuts” debate.
Always look forward to your indepth reporting and I’d bet my last dollar if anyone out there were to do a fair analysis on the effect on the deficit with the bush cuts as is, the bush/obama cuts extended on all except the top two (?) rates, or nothing at all is done.
I hope we can agree as a community (but probably not) that IF the Democrats extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest it is WRONG for the deficit, IMMORAL in todays time of need for the “lesser people” and cutting governments ability to meet those needs is IMMORAL, and BAD POLICY, as well as bad politics. And if they DO extend those tax cuts, it will be the fault of the Democratic Party. The Republican Party doesn’t have the votes to pass wind. If this gets done and signed into law, it will be done with the large support of Democrats. And there is yet ANOTHER issue to hold them accountable.
The mandate was included to entice the American Health Insurance Providers (AHIP) to accept elimination of discriminating against pre-existing conditions, dropping people who have claims, reduce premiums and most importantly, to not torpedo the effort with attack ads, donate ad dollars to sucky-assed blue dogs and no giving foot massages to republicans behind the Wynn-Dixie.
Latest info shows republicans drawing 4 to 1 dollars from AHIP for campaign contributions. So much for pinkie swears.
What’s my favorite line, Jane, from Natural Born Killers? “&itch, you knew I was a snake.”
Not to mention the billions (trillions???) we will pay/have paid in subsidizing the cost of medicine to all other countries.
I’m damned tired of paying 7 times the amount the Canadians pay for a drug too. That’s criminal, IMO.
HAHAHA
I had forgotten that line from that movie. Darnit it just came on on one of the movie channels recently too. I meant to watch it but didn’t. Gotta look for it now and see if I can DVR it.
OFG:
But Obama also said that if Americans are mandated to purchase insurance they would get more control. “So I don’t believe we should give government bureaucrats or insurance company bureaucrats more control over health care in America. I believe it’s time to give the American people more control over their health care and their health insurance.”
I guess you don’t buy it, with those old-fashioned freedom ideas of yours. :-)
Ugh, that was supposed to say if anyone out there does a fair analysis, it would be you Jon.
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Old fashioned ideas of freedom??
Are you reading the polls???
Dude, I’m in the VAST majority of Americans that don’t like to be FORCED to purchase anything. It’s wrong with insurance, it’s wrong with automobiles, it’s wrong with some new Wall St. deriviative, IT’s WRONG.
When the government can force you to purchase goods/services at their whim, then yeah, that violates my old fashioned sense of freedom. Call me crazy.
Hey, I don’t agree with the mandate, I’m simply providing the evidence of why it exists — because Obama strongly advocated it, as he did the absence of a public option.
OK, sorry, didn’t mean to overreact (again).
But I take issue with your description of what Obama did and didn’t do. It is my recollection (albeit admittedly flaky these days) that Obama not only opposed the mandate in the primaries, he specifically trashed Hillary for supporting them and ran on that. Then, it is also my recollection that in public Obama supported the public option all the way till the end even though he had in private traded it way long ago.
Dissatisfaction with the government rates as an issue? Does this mean distrust in its competence?
UPDATE: Still, I agree that health care reform isn’t going to be the big issue this fall. It has been the number two issue or lower lately, and since most of it isn’t going to kick in until 2014, I don’t think it will be for a while.
That was my recollection back in 2007, too.
Is that an Obamarahma quote? The fucker did exactly the opposite. And I thought he didn’t have any balls.
Jon, Jane, and others here have been right so many times…Heck, many of us saw this train wreck of an administration coming with the early appointments of Rahm, Geitner, and Summers. We all know the rest of the story.
As a Green I’ve written off the dems and are prepared to suffer through ever so slightly worse under rethugs until Greens can win. It’s obvious the dems don’t give a rat’s ass about what liberals and progressives want so fuck ‘em!
Paying taxes directly to corporations is not going over well? Who coulda thunk it.
pure nonsense from Obama and lies
HCR, the individual mandate, and the Kabuki dance about the Public Option was what finally lifted all veils from my eyes about Obama. I remember telling friends and family that he probably had his hands tied about bailing out the banks and over the size of the stimulus and for those items I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Then came months of first letting the tea Party retards take over the debate, then the disingenuous claims that “I never campaigned for a Public Option” which were so easily refuted on youtube, followed by Joe Lieberman’s hissy fit against the Medicare Buy-in for 55 yr olds, and then Max Baucus and his AHIP lobbyist gal-pal writing the 2000 page bill. This is Obama’s issue. He got it exactly how he wanted it. And it tells you everything you need to know about this lying, two-faced, corporate-water-carrying, sack of shit, and why when he loses in 2012, or gets impeached over some ridiculous horseshit manufactured by the Repub majority after 2010, I just won’t give a damn.
Don’t forget the kerfuffle over John Brennan. Oh, and Tom Daschle for SecHHS was a pretty big clue, too.
Obama says anything he thinks will make people like him, Obama does what his corporate masters tell him to.
Very succinctly put, Mr. Walker.
And like you, stevo67, my disillusionment over Obama ended the moment I realized the public option would be abandoned, and he was promoting the individual mandate without the public option. But rather than say “lifted the veil” I would say “Sokath, his eyes uncovered!”
It was not only folks at FDL like Jane, Jon, David but also Keith, Gov Dean who really spoke and warn as much as they could to get the individual mandate to be dropped not just Republicans. In my opinion this is an American issue. If it was a mandate for public option it was a whole different issue since the Government was people elected and not some shareholder elected body being beneficiary of those mandates.
The thing is if every company decides this is a much more easy method instead of competing in the market place we will be getting mandates to eat only in ABC or pay fine, buy dresses only in DEF or pay fine, go to places in GHI transportation or pay fine what not pretty soon. Country as a whole will become un-competative in the world. Lack of competation is the issue in the medical sector which we hoped Public Option will provide. Atleast if the companies were broken in 10 different pieces in every region without these mandates that would have been an awesome reform. Much more serious issue which differentiates our country from totalitarian countries is FREE choice in our daily activities which these mandates will prevent. I am hoping our courts will remove these mandates or Republicans do that soon.
We set up a guaranteed single payer health care system in Iraq, but we weren’t allowed to even discuss that idea in America. I think that pretty much says it all.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/guaranteed-health-care-in_b_280528.html
What happens to a majority Republican House and Senate if they fail to repeal the healthcare reform bill?
Anybody notice that Feingold (Phonygold) is now in a nip-and-tuck race for re-election? Couldn’t be that his sellout vote on HCR has anything to do with Dems in Wisc sitting on their hands in November, and independents flocking to vote GOP as a protest?
Nah. Shit like that never happens. Just ask the pros in D.C.
I don’t think it is incomprehensible at all. The bill was primarily a handout to the healthcare insurance industry, masked as healthcare reform. Congress does not pass laws that are not handouts to some industry. They’ve become very good at disguising their corporatism with populist or patriotic rhetoric, and they usually have to sweeten the bill with gumdrops to make them palatable, but one should never mistake the sugar coating for what is at the core of the legislation.