The amazing thing about Robert Gibbs’s nonsensical attack on the “professional left” is that on most of the major disagreements between the White House and its left-leaning critics, the left has been proven right time and time again. What the left wants has been proven not only to be better policy but also better politics.
Stimulus
Let’s take, for example, the stimulus. Critics on the left criticized it for being too small, too poorly directed (i.e., too many tax cuts) and falsely inflated by Republicans out to increase the price tag (with a $100 billion AMT patch that would have happened anyway). Also, the Obama Administration underestimated the size of the downturn while over-promising how much the stimulus would help.
On every count, the left-leaning critics were right.
The stimulus was too small. Even according to the Administration’s own projections, they completely underestimated the size of the problem and did huge political damage by promising to keep unemployment below eight percent. This damaged Democrats in two important ways. The first is that by over-promising, they undermined popular support for the stimulus because, according to Obama’s own benchmarks, it failed. Given this failure to live up to the benchmarks, there is no surprise the majority of Americans think it was a total failure.
On an even more important level, by not preventing official unemployment from rising to 9.5 percent, the plan did huge political damage to Democrats in the midterms. During bad times, voters turn against the party in power.
Health Care
Almost every warning left-leaning critics made about the health care process came to pass. They told Obama that trying to negotiate with hard-core Republicans like Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Mike Enzi (R-WY) was a waste of time. Guess what? The left was proven 100 percent correct after Obama foolishly spent month after month on the “Gang of Seven” negotiations, gaining no Republican support. Instead, Grassley was claiming Obama wanted to pull the plug on Grandma. Over several months, the bill and Obama got progressively less popular. All that time could have been spent on legislation to deal with the jobs issue. The left pushed for the public option and when it was finally removed from the bill, the bill become even less popular.
Some on the left said, back in the early summer of 2009, that Democrats should use reconciliation to pass health care. After being told repeatedly that it was not a good idea, finally the left-leaning critics were again proven right when, almost a year later, Democrats had to use reconciliation to finish health care reform.
The failure to make the benefits of the new law felt right away is another place where left-leaning critics were still standing in the end. Despite the health care law being one of the biggest achievements of the Obama Administration, it remains unpopular. Its passage did little or nothing to boost Democratic poll numbers. If the law had starting delivering benefits right away to millions through something like an early Medicare buy-in, which critics like Howard Dean pushed for, there is a much better chance people in the important 50-to-65-year-old demographic would have warmed to the legislation. Front-loading more benefits could also have injected billions more of stimulus into the economy, helping to fix the problem created by the first, too-small stimulus package.
Bipartisanship
Many critics on the left, having watched the Republican Party for years, know the golden age of bipartisanship Obama wanted was a pipe dream. They told him as much, and time and time again, the GOP has proven the left-leaning critics right. Despite unprecedented attempts to reach out to the Republican minority, all Obama has gotten in return is lockstep obstructionism and a record number of filibusters (see health care). Here again, Obama was proven wrong and the “professional left” was proven right. Obama wasted a huge amount of time reaching out to Republicans and as expected, got nothing in return.
Criticism that rings true stings most deeply
Whether it was the stimulus, health care, bipartisanship or getting tough on Wall Street, the left-leaning critics have been proven right over and over again. What they wanted was not only better policy but what has often proven to be better politics.
If Obama’s left-leaning critics were repeatedly proven wrong, I don’t think you would have Administration officials publicly attacking them. If his critics had made fools of themselves by being wrong, there would be no need to try to discredit them. They would have discredited themselves. A big source of the White House’s frustration with the “professional left” is that they keep proving that President Obama and his advisers are not in fact the smartest people in the room. Or they won’t be if Rahm Emanuel or Larry Summers ever lets any of their progressive critics into the room.




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thanks Jon
I remembered this over the week end – same WH Sh*, different day
Good points. Although just can not figure out why there was not as much of a response in the lefty blogospshere about Obama’s direct statements to the Netroots. Keep pushing…make me do it.
These statements are the polar opposite to Gibbs stupid and unnecessary statements. They had/have the lefties in a tizzy. What purpose would that have served if Gibbs statements were intentional or just off the cuff?
Some of us noticed…
As long as Emanuel and Summers are in the room there’s no such thing as the “smartest people in the room,” even if they are the only people in the room
Good point. There could be some potted plants, furniture…stuff like that.
Intimidation.
Although that seems to have backfired, at least for now.
OT Chris Bowers is going to work for Kos.
Good post, Eli, but also there have been many here at FDL who not only commented on what you said, but have pointed that out numerous times. FWIW, Keith Olbermann had a clip of BHO saying that at Netroots Nation on his show last week. So, it’s been noticed and discussed on the blogs, as well as by (I guess) some of the “professional left” on the tv machine.
Don’t seem to make much difference, though.
I think we’ve been told to shut up, and BHO’s not walking it back. So, cognitive dissonance, much?
Albus Percival Wuflric Brian Dumbledore
Okay, so he’s a fictional character. That doesn’t make it less true.
an Obamaesque move to neutralize a critic ?
I don’t know where President Obama got the bright idea to climb aboard the “drill baby drill” bandwagon, and expand offshore oil leasing a couple of weeks before the Deepwater Horizon exploded. It wasn’t from the left, professional or otherwise.
I think this misses the point. Whichever party is in power it is there to facilitate looting by our elites. The current Administration like its predecessor could care less about being right. What really irritates it is that the criticisms of the “professional left” pose a potential threat to its looting.
Yep, seems like Obama’s priorities on issue after issue were to accommodate the Republicans and to serve the interests of the oligarchy. Their arrogance and hubris got in the way and now they wonder why their poll numbers suck? It’s not the left’s fault, but they make a nice scapegoat.
one of the many things the left was quickly proven right about
Driftglass has renamed his and BlueGal’s podcast in honor of Gibbs’ comments.
Love the Jean Reno look.
IMO they still think the hippies won’t notice that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. *sigh*
Think through this question: “what purpose does it serve for, on the one hand, Obama to be telling his progressive critics to ‘make me do it’ and, on the other hand, Obama through his press secretary to be mocking and denigrating those same progressive critics?”
One has to set aside the impulse to say Gibbs’ remarks – or Obama’s malke me do it remarks – were off the cuff or a misspeaking or something. If there is one thing about this President and his wife that shold have struck you by now, it is how well they control everything that comes from them. For instance, take a look at this slideshow from the Department of State flickr stream, taken September 23, 2009 at the Met in NYC, where the Obamas had a meet ‘n’ greet with world leaders in town for the opening of the UN. In every single picture, the Obamas show almost exactly the same posture, facial expression and oientation. The first time I saw it, I thought it had to be cardboard cutouts as no human could pull off over a hundred identical takes of the same shot, in a row. But, no, if you look closely you will find tiny details – a wrinkle in a cuff or something, that show these were individual snapshots. The only conclusion one can draw is that these are supremely skilled people with the discipline of the best stage or screeen actors. Remember, too, these are not stupid people. Unlike Bushie, who could count on his legacy status to make up for crappy academics, the Obamas made it through Harvard and Princeton and Columbia back when they were relatives of nobody and they did so with seriously good grades. They know exactly what they are doing and why and are quite disciplined in doing it.
So, having recognized that, come back to the question – why would we get these directly contradictory statements from Obama – demanding the left “make him do it” and then denigrating the left for doingexactly that?
That kind of behavior is what one does if one wants to induce a state of learned helplessness in the target. If you train a dog to “come here” and give him a treat when he does and limit his food to the treats, then start adding a whack from a shock collar when you do, pretty soon that dog is going to curl up in a corner and twitch because the cognitive dissonance you’ve worked up in that dog will be insurmountable. He needs the food, he wants the food, you’ve trained him to get the food when he comes here, and then he knows the shock will come when he does just that.
If you did to a kid what Obama’s doing to the left, you’d be lining yourself up for child abuse charges (or, at a minimum, extensive therapy for the kid in later life).
So, apply Occam’s razor: What is the most reasonable explanation for such atrocious behavior?
The Obama administration knows a couple things. They know their economic policies have been, for the electorate at large, something approaching a failure. But, to be frank, they never were about working for the electorate at large. They view their most important constituency as the media and financial moguls who provide the soundboard and money to get them elected. They know they have to pay a dividend to those people, and they move heaven and earth to do it. That’s why one word from Penny Whatshername, the hotel heiress who was an early and large funder, seeking to stop EFCA, gets more weight than all the union members in America. That’s why the banksters get to blow off coming to DC to meet with the President and get chewed out, and to blow off coming to his speech on Wall Stret in NYC – without reprecussion.
And that’s why he’s well on his way to effecting destruction of Real Democrats and substituting in their place DINO Republicans. Real Democrats have been right, time and again, and he hasn’t.
I don’t know that the White House is angry. After all, it’s just a building.
But Rahm Emmanuel and Robert Gibbs seem to be angry.
Were they born with their panties in a twist?
Only one flaw with your premise Mr. Walker-
Barack Obama is the best President to date the corporate fascists ever had.
When I hear the lefty’s begin to wail this out loud, and make IT the issue, rather than focusing on failed policy (policy’s are DOOMED to fail, from the get go! Policy is a dead end for us change agents!), I’ll finally begin to smile some.
Still, thanks for hammering on the policy’s as you do so well, and so does all of FDL, including that Dayan kid just below. ;-)
Beautifully put! Obama’s life’s work: in the right place, at the right time, with the right people. The quintessential climber.
Thank you! You can’t say it often enough. Obama’s agenda has nothing to do with delivering progressive policies. His specialty is keeping progressives under control. Who could have done a better job of minimizing change in the worst recession since the great depression? It’s time the “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for Obama” crowd got a clue.
Occam’s razor: It seems strange to me that the simplest and most obvious answer eludes so many of us.
Barack Obama says “push me” to the Netroots, then sends out the clearly approved-from-the-top message that they’re all a bunch of useless unrealistic whiners. You can tell it wasn’t just Gibbs by the way, by the way he backed it up days later. That would have been the time to walk back something that really just came from him that he blurted out.
Then, Obama speaks to a group of Muslims and comes out strongly for religious freedom and inclusion. Then a day later he walks back a huge portion of it, basically refusing to push against the bigots.
It happens again and again, and the clear lesson is that he’ll work very hard to please whoever he’s speaking to. It’s called being a politician, unfortunately.
The entire campaign and the seemingly progressive positions he espoused are the same thing in action, writ large – well just look at the points that this post by Jon makes. It’s not just that “the Left” was right over and over, it’s that the Left was right while putting forth Obama’s own previous positions in many cases.
I’d missed that one, Eli, thanks for the referral!
Nicely done!
“Making him do it” is as smoke filled bright shiny kabuki as it gets.
Even Gibbs had to use it (after a sternly lectured Rahm took him to task) in his walkback.
But it’s kabuki, and not real, by any means or means testing!
lol
And it’s that simple Hugh, I don’t know why you, I and other have to keep repeating it.
This ain’t about failed policy, the policy has been executed to its fullest ability to the advantage of those who own and pull the purse strings. All our elected offals base belong to them.
Until the proggy left makes that THE platform to bang the drum with, we’ll be behind, beaten, and decimated and divided. As always.
LeSigh.
Drifty, one of his best. Brilliant dude.
Glad to see he’s still rockin, despite him and Blue Gal’s slams at Mz. Hamsher in the past.
We needed a man to clean up the mess that juvenile bush left.
bush fucked up the banks, the judiciary, the justice (Joke) department and of course the stupid fucking wars. Going down the lying trail about the “yellow cake” from a yellow bellied bastard bush and his sadistic involvement and fascination with torture. No, we needed a man to right the wrongs, undo the injustices and stop wasting our blood and treasure in bush’s auto-erotic wars.
He talked the talk , like a modern day Doctor Martin Luther King, but the man wouldn’t man up and do what he was elected to do, clean up the fucking messes.
It was ball-less to accept the torture that went on , come on he had the pictures that you and I as FREE AMERICANS aren’t allowed to see, after he was sworn in, ball-less.
Would it tear the republicans war mongering, blood thirsty, torture addicts apart, I would God damn hope so.
Instead this ball-less bastard in OUR White House asserts the privilege and power to assassinate any American for any reason on his sayso. And the expanded theaters of war and the auto-erotic fascination with these drones.
Sorry dude we’re still looking for a man to do what a MAN has to do.
I don’t know, I think that “bipartisanship” has given cover to Obama’s inability to “move the progressive agenda forward”. (you know, the one he campaigned on?) We can only speculate as to whether this was intentional from the beginning. But we do know for certain that lots of folks liked the idea that he was “trying to get along” and that on some level this provided cover. “I am working with them, but they won’t work with me” seems more of a scape goat than anything real because he never really tried to have a negotiation. If he had been negotiating he would have asked for the moon, and taken what he got. But he didn’t ask for much of anything…really.
Obama got his “drill baby drill” talking points from his Interior Secretary, Ken Salazar, who is a shill for Big Oil and Gas. And Obama is chief shill. Illinois based Exelon was one of his first major contributors. And Michelle is right along there with him. Don’t be fooled by the good wife act. If she was really interested in childhood obesity she’d go after Archer Daniels Midland. But they too are a major contributor. The Obamas are quintessential yuppies who are having a ball while the country implodes. And then along comes those nattering nabobs to spoil all their fun. Bad hippies.
Can Obama please be president now? Can the buck please stop at his desk?
All this talk about Rahm does not help, Rahm is one choice of Obama.
Yes a pretty big one, and one that happened with the un-proffesional Left was the ones calling for warning – at that point the proff Left was still making exuses. Take a look at the archives.
Who people surround themselves with is important, but they serve at the pleasure of the president (e.g., Gates (R), Treasury (Gold Sachs), BP lapdogs, etc up the line.
Obviously the Rahm thing is a pet-peeve of mine. Call out Obama… he’s the decider.
No, they know the hippies won’t get off their intrawebs long enough to march in the streets.
And they know that even if they do, the liberal media won’t cover it as they’ll be too busy dissecting Sarah Palin’s tweets about how grizzlies stock up for the winter so their … sorry, too coherent. I can’t fake a Sarah Palin.
Lol.
That’s just wishful thinking. No one is afraid of these people. If they lose the professional left they’ve got nothing, and the professional left knows it. What are they going to do, ask bankers to endorse them in their teevee ads? BP? MoDo?
The Obama administration is probably the most risk-averse, by-the-book administration I’ve seen in my adult life. They don’t make gaffes or even get angry–it’s not their nature at all, anymore than it was Bush’s to get worked up about Katrina. This Gibbs thing is typical pump-priming for the midterms; make some lame halfhearted attempt to drive a wedge between “professional” (i.e. college-educated, white, slightly more well-off, but not limousine liberals) liberals and create common cause among the rank-and-file meat and potatoes Democrats with centrist to right of center voters. Marginalizing has been the order of the day since he won the primary. That’s the Ockham’s razor reading of it.
That is truly mindbending, their expressions are identical in all the pictures. No bigger or smaller smiles, eyebrows in the same place, eyes open the same amount. I thought the faces were photoshopped in, but the shadows that fall on their faces vary.
OK Ecahn, I admit, that’s spooky.
These guys could have been FDR but decided to be Hoover.
What a waste of a perfectly good four years.
I imagine rahm to be the type to proudly go commando.
I have thought about those totally contradictory messages and could not get to where you did. That is why I ask people who know more than me. Gibbs statement has had most of the lefties getting dizzy from spinning around his statements so much. If this is true and they are pulling our chains just to watch us dance that is pathetic.
Guess they really think that in 2012 we will all just roll over for the lesser of the two evils again. Most of us will
that slideshow really does look like Michelle and Barak cutouts. After about 15 slides Pres Obama’s eyes start to look a bit tired.
“Right” means about as much to Barack Obama and the democrats, now that they’re in power, as it did to George Bush and the republicans, when they had the hammer.
Simply put, there’s a reason why Rahm Emanuel is Obama’s Chief of Staff:
He’s not immoral, he’s A-moral. None. Zippo. Nada.
Not a Mayberry Machiavelli; he’s a Chi-city Machiavelli, and protecting the status-quo is the name of the game.
Never doubt it.
What tjbs said, except, I’m perfectly willing to find a woman to man up.
(Not Hillary; that “Property of AIPAC” tatt on her butt, scares me.)
Thanks Jon. I guess they figure that we, the professional left is stupid and easily manipulated. We’re not suppose scratch the surface of the policies and people Obama has adopted. We’re just supposed to be happy little liberals who drink the kool-aid and accept the facade!
Great comment. All show. Michelle’s vacation played well to Obama’s black supporters. All after, she deserved to go, didn’t she?
They can call me (they are speaking to each one of us, right?) retarded or hazy. They’re going to call me cheap when election time rolls around and I give money to the causes I support (this web site, ACLU, Amnesty International) and not one cent to Obama and his cronies.
Obama will have more success with his bipartisanship pipe dream when the Republicans win back Congress on the backs of the votes of the boobegeouise.
I know it has been said many times before this but I will say it again, One time President. The guy in the seat now will have a challanger in the primary in 2012. The vote will split and we will have a Right Wing nut job in the seat in 2013. Ugly ugly ugly!
So when the Republicans win the House back in Nov., which will be the target: Iran, Soc. Security, teachers’ unions, UAW, pensions, the homeless? I’m sure I haven’t exhausted all of the common bugbears of the sphincter-sucking ouroborous of the Dem/Rep. junta.
No he won’t. The GOP utterly detests loosing the White House to a Black man. Obama will NEVER get anything from the GOP. Never ever.
Who the hell says you’re right other than you and ilk like you? Seriously, these are opinions and you all have yours… damn you all suffer from some serious delusions of grand importance.
Another reason for Gibbs’s outburst might be because of the coming Social Security clusterfuck that Obama himself has engineered.
Obama has been saying, quite rightly, that the GOP wants to destroy Social Security. Correct. The GOP have always hated Social Security, and would like nothing better than to see it completely privatised or abolished altogether.
However, Obama’s own deficit catfood commission is filled with anti-Social Security people, starting with a Republican (and probably Obama’s good friend) named Alan Simpson who has always despised the program. And there has been Dems such as Hoyner, Clyburn, and Durbin who have said cuts should be looked at. Obama is pissed that the left, his base, is calling him on this shit and his hypocrisy, and he doesn’t like it. Tough.
If Obama is stupid enough to try and cut a deal with the GOP to trash Social Security, the left will be proven right again when it blows up in his “bipartisan” face. Maybe if this idiot and his henchmen would start LISTENING to the left instead of giving them the finger, the country would be a lot better off.
Delusions?
And Bless you my child.
ilk.
Always liked ilk.
And Afghanistan…
So wait a second?
What do you propose we do and if you say GOTV one more time…. That is not the issue. In many districts your left with little to no choice, so how is GOTV suppose to work when the DNC and others work against progressive voices?
The problem is less Obama and more the Congress. Congress (The House) has defied the WH before, we have too many Dixiecrats gumming up the works. The Senate is another story, its likely need a complete re-working.
Then there’s all kinds of Clinton and Bush cranks inside the Government that have been appointed, how do you get rid of them?
Nobody said this was an overnight project and its too late to press the reset button.
As I have said before Politics is local and while we don’t have the most Progressive candidate in Jerry Brown, he’s something we in California can work with unlike Obama. He will be rewarded with political victories for progressives such as Prop 19, the failure of Prop 23 and the passing of Single Payer through our legislation for Brown to sign into law, trust me, bet on Black because I’m right.
From there, maybe the entire West Coast will make these same moves, forced too because they might loose population if they don’t. We’re going to have to rebuild this thing from the bottom and maybe, just maybe by holding our nose and voting for Obama again in 2014 and Congress in 2012 we can hold the cranks and idiots at bay long enough for the media to finish them off by discrediting them.
That is the only way to fix this, the ONLY way. We don’t make Obama do it, you threaten the Congress to do it or else…
You’re stuck in the dem/repug frame. Free yourself. You have Green, Peace & Freedom, and other voting options. Stop being so fearful and vote on principles. Republican victories will only strengthen our base which is where fundemental changes begin.
Yes.
Trust me I voted for Laura Wells cause I could… Like Brown wasn’t going to win the Democratic Nomination anyway. Wasted vote IMHO but sends a message.
I am not trapped, I would vote Green in a hot second. If the Tea Party can pull the Republican Party further right at least on rhetoric, then we can pull the Democrats further left as well.
All the above…If you can afford to leave America when they do bomb Iran, do it.
Hey Suzanne, still here?
yup — but most folks are on the dear advocate thread
I am trying to wait for LLN. Am I lost?
lln hasn’t posted yet… most folks are still on this thread
Thanks!