Josh Gerstein has an article in Politico on the massive silence coming out of the enviros on the BP oil catastrophe, which has been notable ever since the rig collapsed. This weekend the groups took out an ad in the Washington Post, not to criticize the administration for their response, but to praise the President for putting a hold on a drilling project in Alaska:
“President Obama is the best environmental president we’ve had since Teddy Roosevelt,” Sierra Club chairman Carl Pope told the Bangor Daily News last week. “He obviously did not take the crisis in the Minerals Management Service adequately seriously, that’s clear. But his agencies have done a phenomenally good job.”
If they aren’t saying anything negative, it’s because they believe there’s nothing to criticize:
Asked if Sierra Club has any concerns about the administration’s response to the spill, [Sierra Club's Dave] Willett said, “Overall, we’re satisfied with the cleanup and recovery effort.”
Now, I listened to Mike Pence yesterday on CNN complaining about the administration’s cleanup efforts, and it was utter bullshit. They should’ve had a photo up of Pence with oil dripping off of his hands. The GOP has been waging a decades-long campaign for offshore drilling without limit, massive deregulation and complete contempt for environmental oversight that paved the way for this. The entire gulf is going to hell as a direct result of his actions. He’s in no position to criticize anything, and any journalist who lets him get away with it isn’t doing their job.
But the reluctance of the environmental groups to criticize the administration over the cleanup means they can’t credibly make that argument. Their decision to act as partisan cheerleaders has hamstrung their ability to act as trustworthy arbiters and advocates in the situation. We all know what their tone and tenor would be if George Bush was at the helm right now. If they are perceived as acting as an arm of the Democratic Party rather than stewards of the environment, they destroy their brand and the integrity of their message.
Part of it is because they’re in the veal pen, and the White House has done an excellent job of keeping them in line since they took office with groups like Common Purpose, Unity 09 and the “8:45 Call.” Matt Nisbet, a professor of environmental communications at American University, says “it’s difficult for the national environmental groups to be critics of the administration — they’re working so closely with the administration. … They have reacted cautiously and softly.”
There’s also “a practical sense among the groups that Obama is about the best they’re going to do when it comes to their key issues,” says Gerstein. And according to Doug Brinkley, “they’re feeling they have one person to do business with. … We’re down to like two Republican senators who want to deal with these environmental groups.”
The Sierra Club has one of the most well-known progressive brands, and they have a membership that is both deep and broad. Their ability to advocate for environmental causes doesn’t depend on access to politicians. It appears that they have they have opted for an “inside” game, and have completely dropped the ball on pressuring elected officials from the outside — right when they could have the most impact.
They also don’t want to jeopardize the passage of a climate legislation bill, and have been fearful from the start that making too much fuss about offshore drilling could endanger Kerry-Lieberman. Is the passage of some shitty big coal bailout what their members desire most? Because it sounds more like what the Democratic Party and its lobbyists want.
The “veal pen” strategy executed by the White House insures this silence, which Obama consciously uses as cover:
“We have responded with unprecedented resources, and when you look at what most of the critics say …and you ask them, specifically, what is it that the administration could or should have done differently that would have an impact on whether or not oil was hitting shore, you’re met with silence,” Obama said in an interview aired Tuesday on NBC’s “Today Show.”
But the Sierra Club isn’t alone. They’ve got plenty of company with the National Resources Defense Council:
“I think that made people plenty angry. Every time you see a picture like that, it breaks your heart,” Deans said. “Certainly, we’re outraged, but it’s not our job to generate outrage. It’s our role to try to focus that sentiment on priorities we need to make our country stronger.”
Some say that even though environmental groups aren’t dominating the debate, their issues certainly are —and are driving huge swings in public opinion against drilling and in favor of action on climate issues.
Well those swings are being channeled by the Center for Biological Diversity, the group that was out there proving that the administration’s actions didn’t match up with its words, and that MMS was still granting offshore drilling permits, even after Ken Salazar promised they wouldn’t. Meanwhile other groups were sitting on their hands, or doing what veal pen outfits do — reaping the benefits of a catastrophe by expanding their memberships and fundraising.
The oil industry has done a good job of buying the silence of many “environmental organizations.” PBS has been virtually silent on the spill, as sponsorship of its major shows is largely dominated by oil money. Media outlets that likewise depend heavily on advertising from oil companies have provided pathetic coverage of the spill and its consequences, focusing instead on completely stupid distractions like “has the President shown enough emotion.”
The environmental groups that have the brand names and the public trust are thus the only entities that can penetrate the message machine. When they speak, the public knows who they are and they listen. And they are the ones that the media goes to for quotes and commentary for just that reason. Their wide brand name recognition guarantees them that platform, and it’s difficult to organize around them when they’re AWOL.
Corralling the veal pen is a tactic that the White House has successfully used to cover their left flank since Obama took office. We saw it with the choice groups during the health care bill. As a result, Obama’s poll numbers with liberals stay high, and he feels no need to address the issues of the base. By stitching up the validators, he’s able to pursue a corporatist agenda while groups with brand name trust wage a public relations campaign to cast it as “progressive.”
These groups have demonstrated by both their action and inaction that they do not deserve that public trust. Unlike the Center for Biological Diversity, fawning groups like the Sierra Club have been successfully manipulated both by corporate money and by partisan gamesmanship. They’ve become such complete Washington DC creatures that they don’t know how to be advocates from the outside any more — their primary function is to give political cover in the midst of a PR battle. They have abdicated the role of non-partisan watchdogs, and the public should find new organizations independent of party control in which to place their trust.




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Great Post once again. Sorry Sierra Club you are betraying your membership…and we outside the beltway people are shocked. You are old and large but you are not influential. The SC website lacks a few critical details about how BP and MMS are colluding, Corexit, other Gulf spills, and the always present government censorship.
But to their credit they now think it is time to get serious about a clean energy economy. About time.
Stopped giving to Sierra Club and others long ago. They aren’t my kind of activists.
It’s all about wanting a “piece of the action.” A gangster government and a culture of gangsterism.
Has anyone had a chance to read the lengthy new Rolling Stone article by Tim Dickinson on the Gulf catastrophe?
It outlines the entire genesis of this disaster, from the circumstances surrounding permitting of the Deepwater Horizon/BP drilling rig, to a detailed behind-the-scenes description of the Obama Administration’s response to the blow-out of the well and efforts at containment of the spill.
It’s such a scathing condemnation of the Administration, that it actually brought harsh criticism of Obama from Salon’s Joan Walsh…something unheard of up until now.
Paul Watson “Whale Wars” may be the last true enviornmentalist. You actually see him fighting his enemies.
BP and Obama are basically working together to hide the disaster that is the Gulf Of Mexico oil spill.
We know Obama takes orders from big oil,
everything now is a play on words “CLEAN COAL” ?
how does one make Coal Clean?
the enviornment groups brought this concept and support it.
BP was preaching about “CLEAN OIL” they created an enviornmentally friendly logo. “Make your logo GREEN and now your helping the Planet.
Coming in 2012 “CLEAN GARBAGE” the Obama Campaign
Sierra Club once stood for something. No more.
Any environmental club that welcomes “sportmen” and even sportschildren is one that loses all my respect:
“When John Muir and Teddy Roosevelt hiked into the Yosemite Valley together in 1903, they shared a first-hand interest in protecting America’s wild places. Muir was a hiker who wanted to wander mountains and valleys that were free of industrial development. Roosevelt was a hunter who wanted to explore dense forests and open fields. They were natural allies.”
“Sierra Sportsmen’s Sportskids campaign is about giving kids the opportunity to fish and hunt.”
http://www.sierraclub.org/sierrasportsmen/
The Sierra Club is about fishing and hunting now?
That’s not what I join an environmental organization to support. They’ve gotten into bed with the wrong people. Carl Pope is a sellout.
CBD stands for something. I trust them and I will support their work with my voice and my pocketbook. Sierra Club? Never again.
Wonder what the possibility of Gulf oil falling in the form of rain in the SE, Midwest and NE with the onset of hurricane season? If that happens it will be difficult for Obama and the “environmental groups” to hide that but then the spin machine will be set to rapid response cycle.
Expect Obama to push for speeding up the construction of new nuclear plants and of course “clean” coal in his nationally televised performance tomorrow night. I wonder if he’s ever considered entering “America’s Top Comic?”
Carl Pope is of the plutocracy.
Love this site… but if it’s going to be showing up in practically every story here, don’t you think we need a permanently accessible link to a page defining this “veal pen” term?
I basically understand who this is referring to, but I can’t help but feel that I’m missing a lot of the context here… why did FDL decide to call these people “veal pen” rather than, say, their more traditional name on the Left of “petty bourgeoisie,” or “enablers” or “blue dogs” or some such? Who was the first to use the “veal pen” term? Who are the individuals FDL considers to be consistently in “the veal pen”? Can you be a politician and be in the veal pen, or only a journalist, or only an activist, or is it a broader term? What do you say to charges that this term is just meant to trivialize or demean opponents?
I figure most of you have been here long enough that terms like this don’t need definition for you, but I’m newer to the site and would really appreciate some term definition… thanks!
At a certain point in time, interest groups exist solely to perpetuate themselves, not to do anything effective about their supposed issues.
The thing I don’t get is why the administration has not taken over the clean up and containment effort. I understand they can’t plug the well (I think – -I am still thinking dynamite.) but they should be leading the above water effort. That is Obama’s Katrina and he can’t outmanuveur it through SC.
Bullseye, as per usual.
Veal pen defined.
As usual, right on the money.
Also as usual, the only one that is right on the money.
It’s getting serious out there Jane. Watch your back. Please.
I agree the Rolling Stone article is excellent and should be a must read for everyone wondering what Obama could have done. I had a Huffpo moderator come right after me for suggesting in a comment that people should read it before accepting the spin that there wasn’t anything that President Obama could have really done.
The Spill, The Scandal and the President
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965
Thanks! Seriously, whoever the web master is around here should stick that to the top of the homepage…
Great comment.
When I got here, among a lot of other stuff, I did not know who lemon head or Tweety were. Turned out they were both the same person, Chris Matthews. Over the years a lot of people have made the identical request you did. Sadly, I think information just moves to fast and there is not staff to actually do it. Jane runs a lean operation.
If you do not know, just ask and a bunch of people with chime in. Unfortunately, they will not always have the same answer. lol.
AFAIK, veal pen came from Jane and afaik, it is basically restricted to journalists/reporters.
Prior to Obama, Daily Kos, FDL, Drift Glass, Digby, and a lot of other progressive blogs were pretty much on the same page. Later that began to unwind and the fight over Obamacare revealed who was in the veal pen. You might want to go back and read Jane’s posts from last June. By January? of this year, it was pretty much everyone except FDL. Everyone on the left caved into Obamacare, even though they knew it was a sellout.Baucus Thanks Wellpoint VP Liz Fowler for Writing Health Care Bill
No brag, just fact. I have no connection to the site, except I kick in $20/month.
Welcome to FDL, our side needs all the help it can get.
Every organization, without exception, no matter how high minded in it’s founding, will eventually become nothing more than an operation dedicated to servicing itself. Eventually the original ideals become nothing more than incidental garbage spouted and repeated as an excuse to fund raise, completely irrelevant to the organization’s existence except in that context.
Too bad human cloning isn’t a possibility because we need a whole lot of Jane Hamsher’s speaking truth to power.
“The oil industry has done a good job of buying the silence of many “environmental organizations.” ;as has the communications media in buying opposition to net neutrality.
Great post, Jane.
Here in California the National Resources Defense Council and the Environmental Defense Fund – both veal pen regulars – shilled for DiFi’s $40 billion dollar water scam that will be on this fall ballot.
If we’re lucky, the state’s voters will reject the massive water bond required to make the scam possible.
If we’re not lucky, the EDF and NRDC, along with Arnold (and Dem “leaders” ambitious, execrable then Assembly Speaker Bass and Senate Leader Steinberg) successfully pimped the massive Shock Doctrine theft that forces Californians to spend billions so that private water contractors can make off with more than $40 billion of public water – and sell it on the private market.
Thanks and f*** off, NRDC and EDF.
Oh – and a big thanks and f*** off to Karen Bass. Now that’s she’s already sold out the state and the future for billionaires, she’ll have all the support she needs in her run for Congress. Can’t wait to see how much of our wealth she’ll sell off there.
And can’t wait to see how the Sierra Club, NRDC, EDF, and the rest of Gang Green will flack for her.
I’ve been reading history and politics for a long time now, and I swear, this Hamsher gal is really, really good.
Just got off the phone with the Wisconsin chapter. Woman was pretty receptive after I gave her the title. I think she got that we are loyal dissent. Have to hold Obama accountable. Hopefully it will lead somewhere.
what’s bee super pathetic is reading the nature conservancy try to justify its ties to BP. Their commenters are not impressed.
That’s why we took the trouble to add that helpful link on “veal pen” in the story above, in case people didn’t know what it meant.
Bingo.
Athenae has a fresh-cross-post available: The Sexual Left
Thanks for the link. Excellent article and highly recommended. Most at FDL can just skim the article bc we already know what’s there… it’s the numero uno thing that makes (not wishing to put words in anyone’s mouth, but I think it’s accurate) most really upset is both ORahma’s and Salazar’s avoidance of doing much of anything really constructive with MMS; yeah: a few heads rolled, and then: that was that.
The RS article comparing this disaster to 9/11 is telling. Like how Bush/Cheney had ample and good factual warning about planes flying into buildings, Obama/Salazar had ample and good factual warning about the huge giant problems with MMS. Obama promised specifically to look into MMS during his campaign, and then: crickets.
We are reaping what Obama has sowed. It’s not through lack of voter inattention. Although voters were LIED to during the campaign, we DID voice our concern and, in particular, what we saw as a overarching need to clean up MMS. We were told it would happen, and shorter answer: it did NOT.
Environmental organizations like Sierra Club should be totally ashamed of themselves for staying in the veal pen. For this voter: no way, no how.
And Obama’s continuing weak actions in re to this unprecedented disaster are driving me up the wall. ORahma’s doing a horrible job; he deserves to be fired during the next election cycle.
Thanks for the report and update, Jane. Sorry the news is not better.
Actually I think the term “veal pen” itself is both descriptive and accurate. :-)
How much have the groups taken from Big Oil? i suspect it’s a lot.
I contacted the local chapter of the Nature Conservancy at least 3 weeks ago criticizing their acceptance of corporate money, especially BP. They said it was an important source of their funding. I asked how much. They said 10% and I said if it’s as low as 10% they should be able to find sources other than corporate sources to cover the shortfall. TNC is the veal pen of veal pens.
I’ve always been partial to Sea Shepherd, and this is in their wheelhouse. They are fully committed on other issues and probably can’t make the spill a top priority. They’re also a little “direct action” oriented for the goody two shoes among us, and for those who still believe in tinkerbell and that reasonable people going to interminable meetings can work everything out. They put their assets (and their asses) on the line.
But they have weighed in: http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-100525-1.html
Great post. The pen is getting bigger and the calves are getting fatter. To market!
Just heard on the Thom Hartman show that if the sea bed collapses as a result of the continued draining of the oil below the sea floor there is the possibility of a massive tidal wave in the Gulf region. Bobby Jindahl’s sand berms aren’t going to stop that.
In point of fact, they would exacerbate it in many cases by focusing the tsunami energy.
Their decision to act as partisan cheerleaders has hamstrung their ability to act as trustworthy arbiters and advocates in the situation. We all know what their tone and tenor would be if George Bush was at the helm right now. If they are perceived as acting as an arm of the Democratic Party rather than stewards of the environment, they destroy their brand and the integrity of their message.
By allowing themselves to be co-opted, they lose all leverage. If they acted like referees, they could have an impact, but as cheerleaders they have no influence on the outcome and just get screwed by the home team.
Very well put!
Cheerleaders and courtesans. The Beltway has more in common with the Court of Versailles circa Louis the 14th.
Surf’s up!
It’s curious that the always reliable HP bloggers supporting Obama are beginning to turn on him. Time for the WH to schedule another public speech by Svengali.
Riding the waves all the way to Chattanooga.
Well, it prompted what passes for criticism by Joan Walsh.
She is such a weak-kneed Obamabot that she could barely stand to utter a negative word.
She’s still wondering if Obama cares more about the Democratic party or his own re-election. I suggested that she spend some time over here for some ideas, and that she read Salon’s own Glenn Greenwald.
I think the leadership has a deathly fear of making themselves obsolete. If they do too good a job, how will they pay for their kids’ college — or find them cushy places to land after graduation, especially as neoliberal and corporatist policies in place since 1969 continue to squeeze what’s left of the American middle class.
I’ll be attending this forum tomorrow evening and will write a diary on what I learn.
Certainly GreenPeace has its share of controversy. They may not even be welcome by the Dee Cee establishment. But they do things. Any environmental group that is praised by the Dee Cee policy makers is likely to be sell outs. GreenPeace fights against Nuclear Power.
Great post.
Here in Holland, I was disgusted a few weeks ago to read in a local newspaper the totally complacent attitude shown by the big environmental groups here, who rake in to tens of millions of euros per year, towards the Gulf spill. Here is a quote:
Greenpeace vindt het verstandiger om problemen structureler aan te pakken, zegt Joris Thijssen, van de organisatie. Als het gaat om BP, is Greenpeace al wel klaar. ‘BP moet alles zoveel mogelijk opruimen, en betalen voor de schade. Het punt is dat Obama dat allemaal al gezegd heeft. Onze taak is wat dat betreft volbracht.’
Translation: According to its spokesman Joris Thijssen, Greenpeace NL prefers to tackle the problem in a “structural way”. Since Obama has promised that BP will take everything, their [Greenpeace] job is done. NO FURTHER EFFORT REQUIRED.
I am appalled by their naiveté and passivity. While swarms of the best lawyers BP can by are doing their best to limit the company’s liability, the envoris are like, totally cool about everything. I refuse to give another euro to Greenpeace or Mileudefensie, period. Wankers, the lot of them.
citation: http://www.depers.nl/buitenland/483416/BP-krijgt-klappen-op-het-internet.html
The amusing thing is that now the teabaggers and cretins like Boehner are the only ones tapping into populist outrage at Obama’s corporatism. I will be very amused to see Orahma’s reaction to the 60 vote swing in the House this November.
If you get a chance be sure and ask how everyone now feels about unregulated free market corporate capitalism. Looking forward to your diary.
You didn’t get the memo? Boehner, henceforth, will be known as the “Agent Orange” of U.S. politics.
The documentary “Gasland” will be on HBO June 21st.
“Gasland”
We need to return to a “grassroots” type of environmentalism. Just as many companies have become “too big to fail” and corrupt, the same has occured with the huge supposedly “environmental” organizations.
One topic that I haven’t seen discussed is what is going to happen when the oil and corexit get into the Florida aquifer. The hurricanes will drop oil and corexit rain on the ground in the southeastern states which will then drain into the rivers and aquifer. In addition, Gulf water already enters the aquifer which is why the fresh water in Florida is becoming more scarce – the fresh water sets on top of the salt water. Once that bad stuff enters the aquifer, I think Florida will essentially be dead.
Well, not surprising. One does wonder what happens if all that oil is removed, given the tremendous pressure of being that far under the sea. It’s not exactly rocket science to contemplate that something’s gotta give if all the oil is pumped out of there. Yet, no one does contemplate this just because these greed-heads want to make as money as possible.
Well, Bobby Jindal didn’t want any kind of researching going on, so LA and other Gulf Coast residents will reap what they sow.
True environmentalists have been decrying for years the unsustainability of these greedy practices. We’ve either been ignored or made into the butt of jokes. Who’s laughing now??
Will look forward to what you learn. It would be interesting to know (but probably no way to find out) how many free market types attend this because they are concerned about what the extremely free market has landed in their backyards.
Here are a few of the reported BP money and other corporate entanglements that directly benefitted big eco-groups:
· The Nature Conservancy has taken about $10 million in cash and land from BP;
· Conservation International took over $2 million from BP;
· The Environmental Defense Fund (Environmental Defense) campaigned with BP for government carbon cap-and-trade regulations through the U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP), an alliance of eco-groups and corporate carbon trading ventures;
·USCAP involvements include the Nature Conservancy, Pew Center on Global Climate Change, Natural Resources Defense Council and the World Resources Institute;
·BP had energy business relationships with the Sierra Club and the Audubon Society.
BP and Enron wrote the cap and trade bill 15 years ago and has been lobbying for it aggressively and at great expense ever since.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/10/bp-is-asking-for-its-punishment%E2%80%94literally/#ixzz0qqzVWUnU
My final comment is to encourage also donating (if so inclined & you have the ability to do so) more to nature conservancies that are local to where you live (I stopped donating to the big “Nature Conservancy” years ago bc they’re not worth it). You can visit you local nature conservancy, as well as looking at their books to see how money is being spent. The good ones spend little on admin costs, with the bulk of the donations either going to maintaining the land or to buying more. In this “down” economy, many local conservancies are doing well in terms of being able to buy more land and expand their holdings.
Here are a few sites which might interest you:
Apalachicola Riverkeeper
Biodegradation alternative in the cleanup of petroleum hydrocarbon pollutants
Plant management in Florida Waters
Thanks for that info. Forewarned and all that…
BP has been involved in ‘greenwashing’over the past several years.
BP has several powerful lobbying connections. They are currently working with the Brunswick Group in response to the 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Brunswick’s Washington D.C. office includes Hilary Rosen, former Democratic congressional aide; Anthony Coley and David Sutphen, both former aides to the late Senator Edward Kennedy; and Michele Davis, former Treasury department officer under former president George W. Bush and GOP congressional aide.
BP also employs the Podesta Group, led by Anthony Podesta. Podesta’s brother is John Podesta, former president Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff.
http://www.prwatch.org/node/1608
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=BP_and_Greenwashing
That’s wonderful. Will be very interested to read it.
That actually makes the point much better. Yes, they lose their leverage.
Agree. More at the “grassroots” level.
The folks who were on the radio were certainly in favour of the so-called carbon tax, using the process to curb acid rain as an example of how well it works. A lot of job creation talk, etc. We’ll see.
Exactly so.
Much like MoveOn, these groups have decided that being an insider is worth a boatload of ethical compromises. Now they settle for making irrelevant non-directed complaints about the system or some conservative that makes Team Obama look bad by pointing out that the team isn’t keeping it’s word. Instead they simply fall back on Bush was worse, when in the case of the environment the actual improvements in policy are minor.
LOL, “Agent Orange.”
We need to return to “grassroots government”. Period. The political class in DC, on both sides of the aisle, are corrupt and invested only in keeping and consolidating power and wealth for themselves and their corpotrate cronies.
We have to harken back to the day when our politicians were ‘citizen legislators’ who served in the government for a limited time then returned to their lives and livlihoods in the private sector.
The Federal Government is completely exposed here, proven collusion with BP, the next ‘too big too fail’ corporation. BP has been slowly buying off environmental groups, ‘greenwashing’ their image and authored the cap and trade legislation that Obama will push in his speech tomorrow night. BP will voluntarily put money in an escrow fund and the future profits is gains off the backs of the American taxpayer, in the form of a ‘green economy’ energy tax will close the noose around our necks. $8 a gallon gasoline, higher transportation costs for the working poor, and cars will still run on gasoline.
Gee, thanks a lot from Orlando. We already are just about the worst job market in the country.
Obama has said that he wants to model the ‘green economy’ on Spain’s model but it has been a dismal failure. And may I remind you that BP had a hand in writing the cap and trade legislation along with Enron, nearly 15 years ago.
Did other people know that Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had his Washington D.C. rent paid for 5 years by a B.P. Advisor?
The Ties that Bind
This may explain a great deal if true.
Corexit is manufactured in Naperville, IL. Warren Buffet, the Apollo Group, Blackstone and Golman Sachs are all investors. Tons of $$ to be made by Obama cronies.
http://bayouchild.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/bombshell-expose-the-real-reason-the-oil-still-flows-into-the-gulf-of-mexico/
I mentioned that link in a thread about 2 weeks ago.
Wow! now I know.
I remember posting 2wks ago,why were the enviro- groups not seen on any of the major TV ntwks going “berzerk”…..I had a suspicion they were bought off or the corporate progressives Maddow,Shultz & Olberman were shielding
the WH.
And now we know,like all the other so called progressive groups MoveON etc…they are indeed shielding the WH…
Like I have said before this “ship”is broken beyond repair….and thus it must go down for any good to come.
There are very few of these orgs that you can trust folks.
I remember that, Indie
Stan Greenberg’s firm was also assisting BP in it’s “rebranding” (the term used by the firm at their website).
Don’t know if BP is still a client, but if they’re still working on “rebranding” BP…well, they may not need any other clients for the forseeable future!
What we need is real leadership. I have always supported this president but now he needs to stop with the counting money and blame game routines and call together the best minds in the country and get this leak problem solved…. Once and For All..
Come up with one, two or three solutions and a implement them, effective immediately, no waiting, no matter the cost. People are waiting for leadership. Enough talk, talk, talk. It is time to Walk, walk, walk.
Get it done Mr. President, people are waiting……the ball is/and has always been in your court. Executive order number one: Failure is not an option…….. Now Lead !!!
I lost hope in the Sierra Club after the Illinois SC made Blagojevich their first ever gubernatorial endorsement (after he was known to be Public Offical A in fed indictments, and after he greenlighted Peabody Energy first coal power plant in Illinois, the biggest new source of ghg in decades).
perfect campaign slogan. unfortunately.
You elected the wrong man. Obama transcends governing. It’s all too messy and difficult. Let’s have a beer summit and talk it over….we could have day long break-out sessions and send out fundraising letters. Obama has never led…ever. Please point me to one example of Obama’s demonstrated effective leadership. Leadership, not machine style political thuggery.
Jane,
I say to the MMs (Master Morons) who voted for Barrack Obama as President, Bonehead Bobby Jindal, “Crude Oil” Mary Landrieu and David “Can a Brother Get a Hooker” Vitter in LA, “Bubba” Haley Barbour in MS, Richard “Can’t Get Enough Bribes” Shelby and Jeff “Long Live the Confederacy” Sessions of AL you should be the ones in the Gulf without hazmat suits scooping up oil with your bare hands………….
Otherwise, no one should hold their breath waiting for Obama to do the right thing and get this oil spill under control………………
Jane,
Seriously, why did you start FiredogLake anyway?
OMG, Indie…
This must be your “A” material….
“Obama transcends governing”.
I would only add that he transcends leadership as well…I guess it amounts to pretty much the same thing.
I laugh to keep from crying.
Sounds like the great Rolling Stones song, “All Sold Out” on their Between the Buttons LP, released in 1967.
It’s not just Sierra Club:
Try to find up to date info on Greenpeace’s website. Someone was blogging the crisis for a while. That seems to have stopped. They have bluefin tuna on their home page.
I have a longer response at http://bucksenvironment.blogspot.com/
As 30 year member of the Sierra Club, I find you article misrepresentative. The Sierra Club is a grass roots organization, so I ask you, what are you doing — besides criticizing others — to assist with the situation in the Gulf?
The Club called for volunteers and members from around the country have answered by donating their time, talents, and resources to aid the people and the environment of the region.
Your article insults those very volunteers and every Sierra Club member who has ever supported the environment — either through lobbying for stronger legislation, testifying at local or state hearing, or promoting the outdoors by leading an outing to a natural wonder.
While you want the Obama administration to wave its magic wand and instantly fix this mess, they can’t. No one can.
If you want to criticize someone, look in the mirror. It is the public’s apathetic and uncaring attitude that caused this spill. The Sierra Club spent decades fighting for cleaner energy solutions while the general pubic buys gas guzzling SUVs and energy inefficient mc-mansions and sat silently while the previous administration blocked all measures aimed at increasing energy efficiency.
It’s time you and your fellow ambassadors of anger stop complaining about the problem and become part of the solution.
You want someone to do something? You start! Write your congressman and senators and urge them to support clean energy legislation. Volunteer at a local environmental preserve. Make a donation. Just stop pointing fingers… unless it’s yourself Jane, and everyone else who reads this!
Jane your ramblings are no better than the claptrap that comes out of Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck!
I will wait for a response you Jane, but I doubt that you have the civility to respond.
It is time for all real progressives to realize, that the elites have been at war with progressives and liberals for years.
The elites learned a long time ago, all we have to do to control our enemies which are liberals and progressives is to buy some of the phony ones off and create some trojans horses.
“the elites live by this quote: “In times of peace prepare for war, In times of war prepare for peace “WAR IS CONSTANT” Sun Tzu
The elites know by buying certain “Brand Names” Green Peace, SIERRA Club, etc. etc. they can accomplish their evil goals quickly. Why waste all the money and time doing the right thing, who needs the Earth?
Obama = SIERRA CLUB, Obama is a trojan horse (the trojan horse lies his way to the top, once there he tries to destroy the enemy from within)
The SIERRA CLUB is no where to be found during the biggest enviornmental disaster in USA history? makes you understand the power of phony enviornmentalist and money.
The elites have developed simple and effective ways to deal with the majority of american citizens.
The elites brought news media a long time ago (they hated Walker Cronkite)
The elites brought congress and presidency a long time ago (they hated FDR)
the elites brought new papers and magazines ( people still think the New York Times is a Liberal Paper? Wow, they are the mouth piece of the rich and powerful)
the elite brought up Enviornmental Groups (they hate how the movement use to hamper Oil production, Coal Production, etc.)
The elites now want to buy up all the colleges, universities, high schools, etc. (they hate the idea of education, dumb people are easy to control, seen Sarah Palin lately, remember she reads everything!)
It is a very simple game plan the elites have, “If you control what people Know in the USA, you will control what they do”
Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck are tools of the elites, these two clowns, entertain the elites daily. Back in the old days and today people in the know call Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck the ROYAL IDIOTS.
Jane Hamsher is more like Paul Watson “Whale Wars” one of the last real enviornmentalist.
“The Sierra Club spent decades fighting for cleaner energy solutions while the general pubic buys gas guzzling SUVs and energy inefficient mc-mansions and sat silently while the previous administration blocked all measures aimed at increasing energy efficiency.”
Huh? Quoting from the N.Y. Times, 8/29/2007:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/29/business/media/29adco.html
Wildearth Guardians has now gotten over 100 group or scientist signatures on a Boot Salazar letter. But it is amazing how reluctant groups are to sign on.
Reasons “Access” to politicians, and Funders keep groups on a short lease.
A whole lot of PEW funding is poured into groups for wilderness campaigns that suck up a lot of time and energy and typically result in diluted protections. PEW Foundation originally was Sun Oil $$$. Foundations flock. Many foundations that fund environmental groups have strategically defunded small, vocal progressive groups. Only lapdog groups get a lot of foundation funding these days.
Also, it appears that Interior and Industry may be working together to effectively dilute opposition to Big Energy projects/advance whatever Industry wants — through hiring fancy PR firms that use collaborative and other groups to weaken opposition.
See http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/plants_and_animals/news.php?q=1276543975
In many instances, all kinds of harmful agency projects in the Interior West on Interior BLM lands receive minimal or no public input. The Big Groups focus on “special” places. And so much of the public lands and what happens there under Salazar go unchallenged.
The “opposition” in the West – largely the signers of this letter. Video at the bottom of the Page is interesting. This letter has 100 signers.
http://www.kdvr.com/news/politics/kdvr-oil-spill-salazar-txt,0,2083796.story
What is going on is complex, and environmental groups are no match for Industry and its agency puppets.