Democrats claimed the fight for health care reform was a moral imperative. They would often cite the number of people who died in this country because of a lack of health insurance. Estimates vary, but that population is usually measured in the tens of thousands per year. When we at FDL opposed the health care bill on policy grounds, we were often attacked for not thinking about the thousands who will die because they lack health insurance.
Now, it appears all that talk about the moral imperative to save people’s lives by making sure they had something called “health insurance” was nothing more than a talking point. Congressional Democrats today callously opted to ensure that thousands of American soon lose their health insurance by dropping the COBRA funding from a the so-called Jobs bill:
The House of Representatives passed a jobs bill shorn of multiple stimulative efforts today, barely getting enough votes from Blue Dogs more concerned about short-term deficits and political considerations than public health. In order to ensure passage, House Democrats took out an extension of the 65% COBRA study and funding for the states for Medicaid. Progressive Democrats tried to object to the rule bringing the bill to the floor, but their protest fell just short, with 36 Democrats opposing.
Therein lies the evidence that congressional Democrats just don’t care about making sure every American has health insurance. They might say it is a sound and valuable principle, but it is clearly way down on their list of priorities. Democrats would rather fund a seemingly endless war half-way around the world. They are also far more concerned with getting a pretty CBO scores, which most American neither know about or understand. Keeping their seats and avoiding possible attacks from those oh-so-mean Republicans has been placed ahead of helping stressed and struggling Americans keep their health insurance. If they won’t vote in the best interest of regular Americans, how can they ever expect the same people to vote for them?
Congratulations Democrats, you can no longer claim any moral high ground on the issue of health care.. It seems all that messaging about saving some of the uninsured was just clever PR trick, a handy cudgel to beat up opponents of your particular brand of health care legislation. In light of today’s action, it is hard to see it as part of a sincere commitment to help your less fortunate constituents.
Note: While not passing a COBRA extension, Congress did manage to vote for an incredibly expensive second engine for the F-35, which the military says it doesn’t need and really doesn’t want. We are literally wasting billions on hardware the military is asking Congress to cut while causing economically besieged Americans to lose their insurance.





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“Progressive Democrats tried to object to the rule bringing the bill to the floor, but their protest fell just short”
Funny how that happens.
Is there any way to see the roll call on this vote? House.gov doesn’t seem to have it.
Moral high ground… The outsourcing they’ve voted in. The siphoning off of money from the rich through this corrupt medical health care industry has crippled people beyond repair. If we had single payer, people could go into business for themselves , take risks, take chances on unsure opportunities, etc.. Unlike the rich, we are chained by the fact that we have to drudge along in a sure thing to ensure our health. The money we might have used to go back to school has all gone to health care. The time we might have gone back to school is consumed by work as no one can afford to take time off and float a few years without health care.
Not only that, but women, in particular, are experiencing diminishing returns working at low pay. The wealth lost when a mother leaves the home to work at a low wage is insane. It actually costs women more than they make in services to family and home to go stand behind some ungrateful employers cash register. It’s nuts. But people do it for practically useless health care.
These Dems taking the moral high ground by saying no to the unemployed and no to COBRA are as stupid as they can be. Our own government is employing the elite banking cartel’s call centers in India to work for the government to take intake calls for unemployment and food stamps and probably other things too. If that doesn’t say it all , nothing does.
These “leaders” are like big fat slobs sitting on the sofa critiquing the sports skills and agility of athletes on tv. Vote these oppressive , useless, worthless, and inhumane bastards out. Start with Pelosi and don’t stop.
Good cop , bad cop most all of it
crap
How disappointing, and how predictable.
They don’t get it; they are sitting inside the Beltway bubble where everything is still rosy, where everything revolves around them.
They do not realize that out here there is a depression still underway, that the unemployment stats still don’t reflect the real trauma of people who have permanently lost their way of life, who have had to take jobs at a fraction of what they used to earn and at part-time, whose kids are now eating one or more subsidized meals at school each day. They don’t see the Hoovervilles which are still out here, only ignored by media or gone underground out of shame.
In one respect, perhaps our safety net has been too good for too long; if it had not helped as many as it has, the Beltway bubble would already have been punctured by angry, hungry hordes meteing out the punishment they deserve.
Is it S 3421 ?
Once there wasn’t a dime’s worth of difference between Rethugs and Dims, now is there even a penny’s worth?
http://www.gp.org
The last, best hope against a National Socialist America.
I was stunned when I heard Congress was dropping funding for the COBRA extension.
My husband lost his job in January, and it’s almost June and he’s still looking for a new one. We were able to keep our health insurance because of government help paying for COBRA. We couldn’t afford it otherwise.
Now we may have to ask my mother to help us pay for it, since the Congress, who have taxpayer funded healthcare, do not feel it is a good idea to spend money to help my family have heathcare while my husband is out of work. I hate to ask my mom because she may need that money someday for herself.
We went from being a solidly upper-middle class family to a family on the brink of financial disaster.
We have some savings, and we own our house. Now our house is worth about 20% less than it was worth two years ago, and property values are set to fall some more.
I am beyond outrage at this point. All I can think about is the thousands of dollars I have donated to Democratic candidates over the past ten years. It would have been better to have stuck that money under my mattress. Now that the Blue Dogs are making noises that they don’t want to fund extensions for unemployment benefits, I feel like asking the Dems for my money back. My family is going to need it for food.
Well, that’s a Senate bill, so I guess, not.
The Green Party, yes!
Obama and the D’s have always operated by seduction – say whatever it takes to get the naive girl to give it up, then once she does do whatever they damn well please.
Since this has been widely described since long before the 2008 election, the question is who’s more to blame:
The seductive player who keeps finding lying gets him exactly what he wants?
Or the naive and stubborn girl who refuses to believe the evidence he’s just using her and keeps going back to him for more?
The GOP owns the Blue Dogs/Prags the Dems act like battered wives terrified of doing anything to upset their men. We can only help them by getting them out of the stressful situation they are in.
We must vote them out for Mental Health reasons.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Prag
is the expression of surprise really genuine?
Jonathan Alter puts O’s HCR on par with FDR. In any sane society a man spewing garbage as him would be fucking jobless or incarcerated.
I posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating that Zbig’s contempt for the opposing forces, also perfectly translated to the American population. They Loath Us!
“…To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.” (p.40)
edit.
-Zbig Brzezinski
We got fooled once and have been ripping on Obama ever since.
And people won’t even know about until they go to their next doctor’s appointment and get stuck with the bill. The MSM sure isn’t braodcasting this sellout. I’m calling Medicaid on Tuesday and find out when the rug gets dragged out from under me.
then, there’s this:
More on the group that will “reform” Social Security…”enormous unaccountable authority”
I am so sorry; that is a terrible regret and lesson about giving to candidates.
OT…probably heard…Top Kill fails…try something else.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck.
What do we do, guys? Third party? Revolution? Something has to change, and it has to change BIG or the bipartisan deficit hawk congress is going to take us into another great depression. We need real change, now… what’s it going to look like?
Funny Good Roman Government, Laws and an infrastructure that worked roads, aqueducts they all skipped his mind.
Any moron can conquer an empire show me an Empire that lasts. What Ziggy described is the British Empire’s colonial empire plans with a mention of Barbarians to please the Roman Empire scholars.
1585 Britain established Roanoke colony, today 2010 just who is still part of the British Empire?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Island
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/romans.html
202 BC -1461 BC thats an Empire Ziggy however I think stopped reading after the Western Empire fell.
Alter is a brown nosing pissant.
They will fail their own mistakes will doom them. Another Financial Collapse is a given. The full effects of the BP oil spill they are not thinking about or preparing for.
Example what happens to the airline industry if nobody wants to go to an oil stained beach from Florida to possibly Texas for spring break for the next 5, 10, 20? years?
No gulf fishing means higher food prices that means inflation.
The only question is who will pick up the pieces us with our numbers and popular support or the Tea Baggers with 20% support, Media support, and Corporate money.
The battle to take the Elite down is already won they did themselves in. Just who takes over next is the next battle.
How do we win by making sure we get credit for predicting the problems and offering solutions.
Alter was behind the watered-down mess from the very beginning.
And his book is either out now, or due very soon.
The Lefty Econ Blogs predicted the housing market would collapse. The Greens said we were not doing enough to protect the environment.
To fix the economy we say Jobs! To protect the environment Green Jobs!
To be sure, it’s nice to remember how a real president performs.
It was very clear when they set the major portions HCR to start in 2014 to get a better CBO score.
For our elites, party affiliation (wink) is immaterial in their quest for power.
“prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals”
that would be us.
“to keep tributaries pliant and protected”
that would be, I suppose the rivers of wealth transferring to them by any means whatsoever.
“to keep the barbarians from coming together.”
well, I suggest we join with the right, dilute their internal cohesion of insanity, and agree to fight the GGG battles after having upturned the tables on our elites.
David Dayen is upstairs!
Top Lobbyist on Wall Street Reform Happens to Be the White House
American democracy ended with this man.
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Saw Alter on Maher last night. Smug twit.
“The courage of life is often a less dramatic spectacle than the courage of a final moment; but it is no less a magnificent mixture of triumph and tragedy. A man does what he must – in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures – and that is the basis of all morality.”
Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality of those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change.
John F. Kennedy
“Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality of those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change.”
Robert F. Kennedy
Perhaps our current president can take this advice:
“Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality of those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change.”
Robert F. Kennedy
Thanks RevBev. Yes, it’s been quite an education.
you are presupposing that Obama has some of that character quality, – he doesn’t.
Brzezinski says we now have a global mankind that is politically awake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkHjt–m_OE
Bah! Stop it, you’re doing to JFK what we did to Obama during the election. Stop putting him on a pedestal. You do realize that while LBJ did manipulate Congress to pass civil rights legislation using JFK’s name, he really had no interest in the matter? It was LBJ who was doing all the leg work on the issue. Camelot was a farce. He did no better than Obama is doing today. The only thing that passed through Congress in JFK’s day was defense appropriation bills. Everything else was gridlock.
Him getting shot has made him a hero, but a wise person would realize that only in his death was he escalated to a progressive hero.
All the things a dead president could have or should have done doesn’t make them a reality. Realize he was a politician and just as corrupt as the rest. He had the benefit of being charismatic in the early days of television and as such is a hero today.
Hell, look at FDR, look at what he did with the prison camps for the Japanese! While we look at him as our long lost hero, he too was no shining example of truth and righteousness.
Yes, JFK made nice speeches. Obama makes nice speeches. Both are about as equally as effective. My only hope is that Obama doesn’t get shot, because it would be a disservice to the progressive cause that he be enshrined as some sort of demi-god.
Us put Obama on a pedestal Bwahahaha! You got the wrong blog. FDR did much more good than harm. Yes what he did to the Japanese is horrible and I would work to stop that were I alive then
But on the economy yes I want FDR!
Lol. So would I… I’d prefer FDR today, but it worries me when I hear people talk about how wonderful Kennedy was. Did all my undergraduate work for a guy who was all about LBJ and to be honest, he had a point about JFK. Speeches are easy, transition that to legislation and policy is the hard part. Judging Obama purely on his vague and well scripted speeches, he sounds wonderful. It is just a shame when push comes to shove, he’s definitely not on the side of the working man. I know, preaching to the choir.
It seems his thinking has gotten better with age:)
He is either bought and paid for and or lacking the Stones for the job. He is certainly smart the debate with the GOP House Reps proved that but being smart makes his support of failed GOP economic policies even more vexing.
We need both a smart and strong man in the WH we cannot afford another bought and paid for President.
EdwardTeller’s diary is upstairs!
My Wasilla Lunch with Joe McGinniss
Those who claim to represent the people have lost all humanity and in losing that humanity they have made themselves subject to retribution.
From here
They really won’t be happy until we’re all living under bridges, will they?
Right, well, JFK’s rhetoric was good and unilaterally declaring an end to NTests in the atmosphere was good…who knows how much good he could have accomplished if people like Curtis Lemay weren’t always shadowing him and instigating gridlock.
You may look at LBJ’s record and say, “Hey look what he actually accomplished compared to JFK” and you may be right, but I think JFK’s mortal sacrifice was key to much of that.
Agreed. The politics of good intentions is the pathway to failure. As RFK said, political courage is in short supply—for which the public pays a dear price.
I’m guessing it is all but impossible anymore to use the words “moral” and “politician” in the same sentence. As a specie/civilization, we’re on our way out in a greed induced suicide march. I weep for our children.
Unfortunately the Democrats already ceded the moral high ground on health care last year when Obama, Baucus and the corporate lobbyists got together behind closed doors to write the bill.
Somehow the juxtaposition of moral and Democrat rolls off the tongue like the oxymoron friendly rape.
Enunciate our values and demand our leaders do. Refuse to support anyone for office who does not. Specter and Lincoln have gotten a taste of that. Also Obama, incapable as he is of love and empathy, has had some instruction from the people, especially re the oil thing.
Date rape? I thought this was a rape date.
Dempocrits redux. You re-elect these shitheads, you have only yourselves to blame.
This is the politics of division.
The people who lost jobs recently, have extended benefits while those who have lost healthcare longest do not.
It’s just amazing that only in the US there is this constantly trying to divide up people. Shouldn’t the benefits extend to all americans unemployed or employed without healthcare in temp jobs.
Can no longer tell difference between repubs and dems.
I joined the Green Party the day Obama signed his phoney health care bill. The feeling was liberating. Now, to get busy and work with the nice folks I’ve met.
“When we at FDL opposed the health care bill on policy grounds, we were often attacked for not thinking about the thousands who will die because they lack health insurance.”
As a diabetic who has been without health insurance since 1992 I say that you were absolutely right to oppose that farce of a corporatist bribe, I only wish the dog of a bill hadn’t passed.
Socialist Party USA for me, I only wish a friend hadn’t talked me into voting for Sanstesticles because of where I live.
Does that mean that the poster above (CarolynC) will still get COBRA subsidies?
Well, I’d say that the blame always lies with the rapist, not with the victim.
There is however, a special place in hell for enablers/rape apologists – media sycophants, leaders of “progressive” organizations and Obamabots.
Anyway you say it the American people are getting royally screwed to death. I sure hope they aren’t going to sign up for this cruise again. If they do, they will get what they deserve, and we will get what we don’t deserve. But then again, H.L. Mencken said, “No one every lost money underestimating the ignorance of the public.” Gee I hope Mencken can be proven wrong in 2012. Illegitame non carburundum.
That is a load of BS… I mean Come on.. if they don’t extend the Cobra Subsidy, thousands of people will lose health insurance because they can’t afford to pay $600 a month on Unemployment.
Get freakin’real people. Fix the Job situation or there will be massive bankruptcies by the likes no one in this country has seen since the great depression, most of us are hanging on by a thread as it is.
There are NO JOBS. I went door to door at a business park yesterday, everyone has a sign NO APPLICATIONS, NO RESUMES.
They are so inundated with them they are not even taking them.
Most have told me they don’t put ads on Careerbuilders anymore when they do hire they do to the mound of apps they have or they post annymously on
on Craigslist, so everyone doesn’t find out they are hiring and they get slammed with a line of applicants. Obama is proving to be as lame as the rest when it comes to the oil spill and Unemployment….