Tim Carney says Goldman is using the GOP and the Democrats for a one-two punch to game regulation reform, just like the drug companies and AHIP did on the health care bill:
At least three times in Goldman’s conference call Tuesday, spokesmen trumpeted the firm’s support for more federal control.
Vague public calls for “reasonable regulation,” of course, are often little more than smoke. But Goldman’s annual report explicitly endorsed stricter federal capital and liquidity requirements. Goldman reported on the conference call that it holds 15 percent “Tier 1 capital,” meaning it is very liquid and not very risky. Goldman can play it safe, you see, without needing a regulation. But regulations prevent smaller competitors from taking the risks needed to compete with Goldman (and every competitor is smaller).
It’s a game that nobody plays as well as Goldman, but all the big banks will have a hand in crafting this “reform.” Consider the recent flap over the $50 billion resolution fund in the Senate bill. Banks didn’t like the resolution fund, because it would be capitalized by a bank tax. Republicans rightly attacked the bill for institutionalizing bailouts, but focusing on the $50 billion was a bit of a distraction. Some leading Democrats are now ready to back away from the $50 billion and the bank tax, which just means that we now have unfunded implicit bailouts. The banks win.
So, just as drug companies and insurers used Republicans to kill the public option before using Democrats to mandate insurance and subsidize drugs, big banks are using Republicans to kill a bank tax while using Democrats to erect barriers to entry, to institutionalize bailouts, and to restore confidence in Wall Street.
He’s right, of course. They carve up all the stuff they don’t like, and task the GOP with demagoguing “socialism” and “fiscal irresponsibility” The Democrats get “regulation” that freezes out competition. Whoever has the “majority” gets to pick up the check.
Carney hits on a very important point — in this new world order of supercorporations who earn their phantom profits by investing in politics, it is the “small businesses” who are being stifled and frozen out. Building a better mouse trap no longer matters, because the Acme Mouse Trap Company is writing legislation that makes it impossible to sell yours. Acme can build the shittiest mouse trap in the world, and never have to innovate, because their market is protected, their failures are subsidized and they pay no taxes. That gives them more money to plug back into the political system, and the cycle begins again.
It’s sucking the life out of the very businesses that generate economic growth and create jobs. In the health care bill the generic drug makers got the shaft on biologics so PhRMA could enjoy endless IP protection, which they demanded in a show of brute political force. It will not only keep health care costs sky high around the world but limit access to important new drugs developed with taxpayer money that are thus rendered free from generic competition. Medicare subsidies were set at the level they were because that’s what the average WalMart worker makes, and the Waltons very much wanted to keep their family money and let taxpayers pick up their health care tab.
Likewise, Wall Street banks profit at the expense of state banks and (in the case of Aurora) the hedge funds. And until the “small businesses” recognize that their interests are separate and distinct from the supercorporations who are sucking them dry by gaming the political system, it will only get worse. Democrats and Republicans merely play their respective parts in a competition for corporate patronage. And in the end, the banks as Carney says won’t have to “capture” any regulatory agency — rather, they are “born in the custody of the businesses they regulate.”





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Bullseye, as per usual:
From August 2009: Patent backlog clogs recovery
Agency’s inability to keep pace undermines American innovation, competitiveness
Given that the health insurance and pharmaceutical cartels made out like bandits in the health care “reform” episode – they basically made a brilliant demonstration that they own DC and that no populist reform can take place there if corporate and plutocratic interests don’t want it – it is completely unsurprising that the shadow banking system is attempting to follow the same playbook.
Probably with the same results.
Just more proof for my argument that government can’t be reformed and we need a revolution.
Some days I just want to take a break from the news because it makes me despair.
Obama and the democrats gave away the store to insurance and pharma with his “groundbreaking” healthcare reform. He remembered the oil companies with his recent off-shore drilling blatherings. He is giving Wall Street every financial request they want, while trying to sell his bullshit bill of goods to us poor saps out here struggling to survive.
Ain’t representative democracy and laissez faire capitalism great.
Carney hits on a very important point — in this new world order of super-corporations who earn their phantom profits by investing in politics, it is the “small businesses” who are being stifled and frozen out. Building a better mouse trap no longer matters, because the Acme Mouse Trap Company is writing legislation that makes it impossible to sell yours.
Shhhhhhhh!!!!! Don’t anyone tell McMegan. Don’t want her purrty head to explode.
Hey Jane: your tags on this entry are all messed up.
That is, unless you REALLY meant to relate the entry today to Anna Eshoo (Gezuntheit!) …
The bottom line…there will be a “financial reform” bill. Unfortunately, because the Washington D.C. politicians in the White House and Congress lack a moral backbone, “we the people” will be the losers once again from a watered down bill. And…the further destruction of the middle class in this country will continue.
Boo
I’ve worked hi tech R&D since 1975. We noticed a shift during the late 70′s to early 80′s in the world of patents. Subsequently many of use stopped using the patent office to protect our technology and designed in other types of protection.
It was widely known during the 80′s and 90′s that Sony had five times more Patent Lawyers and Engineers working in the Patent Office researching patents than they did filing their own patents.
At times, it was so egregious that large corporations (Jack Welchs’ former employer was known for this behavior) would produce an exact copy of someone else’s patented work, simply inviting a patent lawsuit where the smaller unfunded organization would be sucked dry in legal fees, settlement would follow.
Innovation in this country has not come from the large corporations but from the small ones. Typically from private investment (one exception being Intel) The future is not bright but very very dim.
The Democratic Party is no longer the party of “we the people”. The revolving door between the corporate world and our government from both parties will continue. It is up to the citizens to change this dynamic with a party which represents our interests.
Article – Democrats Haunted by Corporate Ties
Another very insightful post, Jane.
Which really begs the question: Why shouldn’t we be focusing our efforts on either a viable, centrist-oriented third party OR a velvet-type revolution?
After all, when we keep laying out all the evidence that proves the system as is is hopelessly rigged against the people, but yet keep playing within it, aren’t we turning ourselves into either fools or enablers?
You’re the leader here (and a great one, IMO), so I really wish you would address this question directly.
Okay. I’m buying this. The question I have now is how to get this message of truth to the small businesses. How to frame it, so that they’ll see? And, then what? Citizen grassroots backed by small companies?
I may not be making sense, but I’m trying to think instead of despairing.
When you convince people as former President Reagan did that government is the problem, it isn’t surprising that regulatory agencies would become lax or underfunded. When the mindset is “greed is good”, the majority will eventually find out that greed is not good for them.
We need a major overhaul to restore our government to protect the citizens of this country against the predatory few.
It’s not the people who are convinced. It’s the pols.
Chart of Goldman donations 90-10
now I had my first inkling when I saw Investment banks were much more bullish on Gore than GWB in 00, but am willing to bet most people would never suspect the larger percentage of GS’s campaign cash went to Dems
We could have tax laws that “favor” small businesses which are less likely to be “multinational”. There are many laws and taxes which favor the corporate world and until that changes, the current situation will continue.
What if we get more involved at the local level with “town hall” meetings to discuss these issues (and don’t let the uninformed take over the meetings). We could also talk to family and friends about the price of political apathy. We should vote for candidates that don’t place corporate interests above that of the citizens. Just a few quick ideas.
you are making sense – just don’t have any answers right now. a large chunk of ‘em belong to their local Chamber of Commerce, local business councils, Rotary, etc. it’s not like the SBA is going to pass out flyers :D
You’re not alone.
I’m sure that many small businessmen are wondering when, if ever, their interests are going to coincide with those of big business again.
I’d say never, but that hasn’t sunk in yet.
I believe that small business has to wake up, the big boys are picking all of our pockets, small businessmen are also targets in that environment.
In squeezing the middle class, big business is also killing the consumer who is the goose that laid the golden egg from small business’ perspective.
It’s far worse than being lax or underfunded.
These protection agencies (the Patent Office has been in existence since the founding of the republic) are intentionally being managed in this manner for looting.
(and please don’t make it a D vs R issue. Notice who Goldman is donating to. Additionally please note that the type of regulation IS the issue. Protection of the mega-corps with the pummeling of the smaller)
Powerful special interests are manipulating the process to gain preferential treatment?
I’m shocked. When did this start?
This strikes me as a conspiracy between the pols & the big corps against the taxpayers. Wonder if lawsuits could be filed.
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is ready: Jim DeMint (R-SC) Explains the Driving Force Behind the Tea Party: Theocracy
I agree with both major points in this post, that both Democrats and Republicans are working for Potemkin reforms that actually favor the banks and that this results in an ongoing misallocation of resources away from productive economy segments to wealth destroying ones.
Is BT going to find a new theme anytime?
Which only goes to show how corruption and greed may eventually destroy this country. Where is the moral compass of the politicians at the national level? Most appear to have far greater concern about getting re-elected and maintaining their level of power than doing what is morally right for the citizens as a whole. I see nothing in President Obama’s actions that suggest he will truly try and reform the financial institutions. He is just too close to them. That may be good for his personal wealth and power, but, bad for the citizens of this country.
If you don’t like what BT writes about don’t read it.
Consumers need to wake up too. Perhaps the same people who complain about how the government functions, fail to shop at neighborhood mom and pop stores in favor of saving a few bucks at the Walmarts, Home Depot, etc. Maybe they don’t think about the extra gas they use to drive to the next town to get the deals. It’s a big job to educate people. Even some of the nicest people I deal with on a day to day basis, don’t want to think. They’re nice, don’t get me wrong.
He’s right, of course. They carve up all the stuff they don’t like, and task the GOP with demagoguing “socialism” and “fiscal irresponsibility” The Democrats get “regulation” that freezes out competition. Whoever has the “majority” gets to pick up the check.
Great piece Jane. The corporate lobbyists have studied their game theory*. They have a nice racket putting the Democrats and the GOP in a bidding war for campaign contributions. Long-term, Its like Larry Lessig says, nothing gets reformed until campaign finance gets reformed. In the meantime, progressives need to start figuring out ways to play the different corporate interests against each other. I suppose the template is to tax disfavored activities and pass through the revenue to un-tax favored activities (for one thing, tax bills are filibuster-proof if they’re put in a reconciliation bill).
*If anyone is interested in game theory, they should check out the new book, The Predictioneer’s Game (“demystifies game theory . . . makes for enlightening . . . reading. “The Predictioneer’s Game” is kind of like Machiavelli’s “The Courtier” for a millennial generation.”).
http://www.predictioneersgame.com/media
excellent article. This is why I continue to support FDL!!
…if saving money is a priority (which it is for the majority), spend less on a lot of “junk” and more on a few quality items from the “mom and pop” stores, farmers markets, etc. If enough people did this, we could change the dynamic.
I feel we need to stay informed about what is happening at the National level, such as with “financial regulatory reform” and loudly voice our concerns (thank you FDL for your help in this area). However, we should also talk with family, friends and people in our communities to find solutions at the local levels. Sounds as if you are willing to get involved…good!
Surprising the number of times one hears Fascist this, Fascist that thrown about in what passes as the public debate on current issues. Not surprising is the level of ignorance on display, of history, of economics, of political science, of sociology, the list is extensive.
A recently read book is quite interesting, written by the originator of political science, Niccollò Machiavelli. His “Discourses on Livy” throws a revealing light on the Roman Republic, (Machiavelli was a notorious Florentine Republican) and he explores what made the Roman Republic successful for over three centuries before it succumbed to Julius Caesar and his successors and points out WHY it failed as a political entity. Nobody who wishes to embark on anything political in a Republic should not have knowledge of this book. That being said.
What besets todays hegemonic Republic can be described in its entirety as corruption. The institutions designed to separate governmental powers are corrupted, the design of balancing governmental powers is corrupted, the very ability for government to exercise power is subverted by corruption, as are the self-righting mechanisms inherent in the original governmental design now corrupted by blinding ideology. It is evident that there is little that can consciously be done with the extent of governmental failure, with the failure of the body politic.
The combination for the security from corruption is known and the strongbox of the constitution is open for pillage and rapine. But the bleating of the ignorant that Fascism is the culprit is in total misleading error. The actual Fascist government was the principle actor that sheltered the corporate elite. What you see now is entirely different, the government has been sabotaged and bought and is the wholly owned subsidiary of the corporate elite and their minions. The Republic is gone, it cannot be resurrected in its present form since the combination is compromised. The lessons of maintaining and protecting a Republic are written and available and can be used to redesign an enduring replacement for the better parts developed from experience by the Philadelphia experiment. Don’t let the clammer and din of the day to day exigencies drowned out the whispered warnings of Cassandra or let the content of the message, however unpalatable to the narcissistic image held captive by ego that message might be. May you live in interesting times.
It wasn’t the Republican who sank significant HCR, it was the Democrats, led by the guy elected on his campaign promises of “hope” + “change”. Obama discarded the interests of the people who campaigned & fundraised for him, ignored the needs and wishes of the MAJORITY of American voters and berated Democratric leaders who had the gall to challenge his power & authority. All evidence suggests he is doing the same with financial reform.
There is NOTHING Republicans can do that would influence me to vote for a Democrat the election cycle, absolutely NOTHING!
Spot on, Jane! Thanks-
I am so disillusioned right now – no one is angry enough to hit the streets and until we put a scare into the pols and the elite (via massive protests or actually voting in several candidates from a new party), nothing will change -
Excellent point re fascism as a situation where the govt is the principle and the corps are the client, and how our situation seems to reverse that relationship. I would think our situatis is WORSE, in that the govt must at least pretend to be concerned about the People, whereas the corps don’t have to because they are using the govt as their “beard.”
I would also note that multinationalism is an important line of distinction for corps. Domestic corps are more closely bound to their domestic customer base, while multis focus more on their global interests, which may fairly be read as their Asian-centered interests, since those are the markets of the future. It always amazes me when small U.S. businessmen lump themselves in with corporations generally, without seeming to realize that multis are very different in their interests. Perhaps this is a wedge issue that could be useful in some ways, but the domestic business peeople would have to be re-educated.
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You picked out the same part I would have to reply.
Nice.
And thanks Mz. Hamsher for the read, another FDL overview to show how ugly it REALLY is in our USA.
Grey and rainy here in Sacto today, gloomy, like the phreakin nooze and reality, I guess.
Lesigh.
On we go . . . with FDL to warm the soul and stir the blood!!!! lol
That sure is a lot of words just to tell us (what we already know) that our system and society and government is corrupted top to bottom as bad as Rome was, and as bad as USSR was, when they collapsed.
So what do you offer to change this?
It matters not whom the client is, it’s fascism when the corporate interests and the government/state are colluding for their own benefit, and not the benefit of the masses.
And sure, multinationalism is a facet of it all, as it was in Rome, Germany, Italy, USSR (despite the political idealogy that differes from case to case).
And when that multinationalism is wedded to the multinational corporate structure, it’s called fascism.
So, what’s to be done?
I made the comment because the client-principal role reversal was novel to me, and seemed to have merit becausse it actually gives even more power and influence to the corps than the traditional view of facism, which is as you stated, and as I’ve always thought about it as well. Either way, you’re right that undue corporate power and influence is the problem.
As to what to do, you know my views are very strong on that. At minimum, massive, persistent, militant street action (albeit non-violent, at least on the part of the activists; the police and Blackwater types will inevitably be less restrained).
Longer-term, I’m coming to believe that our only hope of moving things in a better direction is a third party that will be centrist enough to attract the numbers we need. I think a lot of people are ready for that. Centrist is a big improvement over fascist, IMO, and I could live with it. Moderation in all things, per Aristotle, would be good enough for me right now.
Moral compass? I think they each have their own (modeled after Jack Sparrow’s).
Jane, you were great yesterday on Dilan Ratigan.
Short and to the point./ Sweet.
How far we are from Europe, and the gap is growing, our mandated insurance premium/ rebate.
They will get gauranteed vacatation time.
It makes me remember the Clinton inaugural… the Fleetwood tune: Don’t Stop thinkin’ about tomorrow”
Then a few later… along came Y2K not the computer glitch… symbolism,
Sept 11 2001. ( it all came down,) ( that symbolism.)
And… “Inaugurate a new century”, featuring… PENAC [ Project for the new American Century.]
Symbolism, not so much.
Reading Democracy Inc. Sheldon S. Wolin, explains much and enlightens on these kinds of things, that just don’t seem consistent with… the old views of american democracy… things… what could you call them? Wolin calls it inverted totalitarianism. in the vein of Bertram Gross’s Friendly Fascism, 1999.
The thing is, every part of what you are seeing is perfectly crafted into the whole.
and that’s a long list… the public apathy, complicity, false reactiveness, fear tactics,(torture is us?) Unitary exec. Savant court ( emails are texting? ) on and on.
Are these outraged feelings and sense of disconnect or anamolies of… state craft stage management? No it is all working very well, thank you very much happy citizens, get used to it, it will get better. In fact the sense of outrage is a very useful device to help reeducate. So it is our duty to learn, not a problem.
Yup. To actually envision, design, build a prototype, test, redesign, and move through all these phases repeatedly until you get to a production model is terribly risk, difficult, and fraught with obstacles that arise at every phase.
Must be simpler for the hacks who just loot from the patents.
I dearly wish for a judge or two who settles a case by asking both parties, “Tell me all the phases that you went through, and tell me exactly what you did…” in under half an hour, a judge would see who’s actually done the work and might actually award the property rights to the originator.
But that is in my dreams…
Brilliant post, Jane. (Again.)
IMVHO, the whole issue of financial structures and accounting practices in the US needs to be fundamentally revised. Corporate governance gets far, far too little attention but it lies at the core of many of our ills.
She was? How’d I miss that…?!
Ummm, yeah. It’s the compass with 200 dials, all in varying directions.
However, don’t try to patent it.
As librty points out, someone probably already beat you to it.
They probably worked for either a competitor, or a law firm. Or did I just repeat myself…
I’ve had that experience one time. I produced the engineering log book with daily witnessed and signed entries.
The result was very sweet. The ownership of the larger Company was awarded to the smaller one. (neither were incredibly large. $10 million vs $250 million annual)
Yes that was tuesday. That must be on at 9. ET
She responded to Rahm’s mayorial dreams, (which is a topic,) I don’t know if he should give up his “day job” or not.
you didn’t miss the replay, rOTL, it’s right here at FDL TV
Huh, that’s interesting. Didn’t know that.
I could’ve just said that and saved myself several paragraphs — exactly.
I’ve answered it repeatedly. It’s difficult for a third party to be viable in this system, which is why even at a time of massive discontent with the two parties, one has not emerged.
You have to change the system before that will work. We’re trying to figure out the best line of attack to make the system more responsive to the electorate. It’s not as easy as people might think, and simply jumping on board efforts that are already failing is usually not the answer. In the mean time, we’re organizing on ballot initiatives, which are issue based and not party based. We hope we’ll be able to gain experience here and use it for systemic reform in the future.
All good thoughts to ponder, thanks for the thoughtful reply, ‘preciate it.
Without bodies en masse in the streets, work stoppages, etc., I too see no other ways to influence and affect change on the system in place. And like you, I’m all ABOUT peaceful civil disobedience.
Thanks, Elliott . . . I keep forgetting to use that FDL TV resource, or at least CHECKING it.
You and me both, it’s young
but, your welcome :)
Thanks for your response, Jane. Perhaps I should have posed my question more pointedly.
I know third parties are tough to start up. That is why I specified a CENTRIST one, by which I mean one that would sacrifice some pet issues on both the right and left sides of the political spectrum in orde to gain acceptance from the center, where the numbers are. And where a “small d” democrat should therefore be reasonably comfortable.
I understand that aiming for centrism would feel a bit like eating pablum for us activist types, but wouldn’t it be a huge improvement over the total corporate dominance that is whupping our tushies at every turn under the status quo?
And don’t you think a third party might muster a quick majority based on clean government and accountability, no unnecessary foreign adventures, support for First and Second Amendments, as well as civil liberties generally, and opposition to the concept of corporate personhood?
I am in awe of your doggedness and cleverness in pursuing the “inside baseball” aspects of the political game (God knows, I could never do what you do), but we keep losing ground in spite of, and how can we avoid losing hope when all the data is so discouraging vis a vis the tactics we are using?
Hmmm. I’m wonderin’ about the caps in that “ABOUT.” I don’t want to risk giving the Mod agita, though, so I won’t ask you to explain ;).
I think we both understand that fascists are not known for being restrained in THEIR actions, though, so therein lies the problem.
How can you change the system from within if you continue to vote in already compromised Democrats and Republicans? As long as people “believe” they only have two options, the politicians will not change. And, “believing” there are only two options brings about voter apathy which further continues the status quo. Voters have left party affiliations in the past (example, Whig party) to form a new party. We are well past the tipping point of the need for a “citizens party”.
Also, if those of us who believe in social justice and the common good do not deal with the systemic issues now, we may end up with the “crazed Republicans” dominating the discourse.
Article: Noam Chomsky Has ‘Never Seen Anything Like This’
I’d suggest that those items that are of general interest to progressives are really centrist positions and would be seen as such by the electorate. On both HCR and financial reform, polls show the public in line with the key elements of real reform.
It seems to me that we have to create a party that pursues progressive economic and political goals and stays away from the issues that tend to marginalize. By that I mean primarily:
- Stay away from gun control. Regardless of the validity of arguments on each side, it doesn’t translate to jobs, financial security, food on the table, etc.
- Minimize emphasis on LGBT issues. I realize this is heresy to some, and I have gay friends as well as gay members of my extended family. But it is the kind of emotional issue that should be dealt with as a secondary, not primary priority. I also think that any party that garners sufficient backing on a economic platform will have enough clout to roll the opposition on LGBT issues.
One economic issue that will have to be confronted is immigration. No matter how much we sympathize with the plight of illegal aliens seeking a better life, there is just no way that we have the resources to provide for 12-20 million illegals who increasingly compete for good-paying jobs in industries like construction. We must also do something about legal immigration. I saw a recent article (HuffPo, I think) which reported that 50% of all legal immigrants work in white collar jobs. Wonder how those long-term unemployed, those who have been out of a job for a year, like that. (Wonder if one of them is taking a job from our own frequent commenter and blogger-in-bankruptcy, Bill Egnor?)
MLK layed out and displayed the blueprint
I’m hearing you BigJess
Couple points to consider I believe (in reference to 2nd Amendment and LGBT)
Our Constitutional Republic needs repairing and restoring
The Constitution and Bill of Rights are straight forward and in most cases easy to understand and apply.
And for me, here it is: All men are created equal.
If we are to start anywhere, it needs to start there. That statement from our Declaration of Independence is a bedrock position, a conservative position.
Is there not anyone on the public stage that has the capacity to orate in a manner that inspires, in the way JFK inspired?
Conservatives express unendingly their love and appreciation for the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. (and I sure don’t see anything in that statement that has any reference to sexual preference)
Can we not find common ground?
I agree. Republican Strategist Lee Atwater really brought to the forefront the “social issues” to divide the country style of campaigning. We need to quit dividing the basic interests of the majority.
Immigration reform is a heated issue right now which effects citizens on a number of levels, economics, national security, etc. However, in regards to jobs, people here illegally is only one aspect of the problem. A far greater issue and problem relates to our trade policies. Even if we were to send back every illegal alien to their “home country” today, we would still have the problem associated with outsourcing jobs to other countries and the continued loss of manufacturing jobs. It is also conducive to many businesses to hire “illegal aliens”. We need reform…immigration, business, trade policies, but not reform based on political expediency.
Always love Noam, that was a fine read, thanks for the link.
If I understand Mz. Hamsher WRT a 3rd Party, it’s not viable and this present system will not ALLOW it to be viable, much less get started. I hope I haven’t misrepresented her actual comments, but that’s MY take on the 3rd party thang.
As such, efforts FOR a 3rd Party dilute and take away from getting something done.
And I’d include that ‘getting something done’ would be to use that energy re: creating a party, and firing up the base for boycotts, labor stoppages, and mass civil demonstrations. And let me be CLEAR, those are MY thoughts, not Mz. Hamsher’s or FDL’s in any way or form.
I also agree that effort must be made to act local, sponsor and support progs locally, at school board level, City, county, etc.
And then, there’s still consideration for effort spent on developing change thru initiatives and the ballot box in that manner, within the system . . .
That’s a lot of work for someone who has a job and a family . . . so, others who DON’T have jobs and family to consider have to work harder, and the rest need to step up a BIT to be involved, if the ‘working from inside the system’ is to have any impact for change.
I really like Mz. Hamsher’s screed (she repeats it often so we don’t forget it bless her) regarding that this ‘change’ work takes work, time, and is a long haul effort. THAT I concur with completely.
But I’d like to see mass civil disobedience added into that equation, too.
*G*
Ghandi, MLK, anti-war, women’s rights . . . women got the right to vote thru mass civil disobedience, I believe. *G*
Labor, they used mass civil disobedience.
Lots of examples thru out history.
*G*
And I’m all ABOUT those examples! I’m FOR them!
Conservatives (broadly speaking, don’t harsh me folks) only see the Declaration and Constitution as pertaining to THEM, not to others. Hence, like Fundies, Extremists, it’s a narrow view, and not likely one progs have any ground to collaborate with, or compromise to.
Just sayin.
Always the Pollyanna I am
Just thinking, that if they’re rational at all …
(and I’m a middle aged white guy (nra member), who as a heathen youngster enjoyed as much sex with young women that I could arrange) just saying
:-)
You’re reading my mind. Those are exactly the “pet issues” I had in mind as the type the left would need to give up for the time being. On the right, they have their own set.
I have to believe a platform like that could command a majority. I wish Jane would address that question more specifically.
My understanding was that Nancy was organizing at that time, they did the Just Say No
We’d never get the extreme righties. I’m looking to get the moderate center.
There are numerous examples of mass civil disobedience throughout our history. However, we have decades of people who grew up and are adults during a time when “conformity” is the name of the game (think about all the people who want to wear a specific logo on their clothes as an example). That was intentionally done through “marketing” which changed our society on many levels. Will people be apathetic and WANT to stay uninformed? I wonder whether people will “protest” for the interests of the many and not just their isolated agenda… and…if not, how will we get mass civil disobedience?
I think most people at least on a basic level understand that our government is not functioning well and corporate interests are taking precedence. It is truly sad that we have a President and Congress that will allow the financial sector to make decisions for the entire country (and globally). Since this same financial sector functions globally and for profits, they don’t have the interests of our citizens first.
Can we sue pension funds that we are members of that are still stupid enough to do business with GS?
Dylan Ratigan is the BEST show on TV, period!
In my opinion
True Financial Reform Bill: Only 3 Lines in the bill.
First Line: Re-instatement of the Glass Steagall. Refer to prior repealed Act for details.
Second line: Banning all financial products not covered by existing regulations.
Third line: Any new financial product is legal only if federal regulation is associated with it and is fair, transparent to all market players and government.
Solution is pretty simple and effective. So it will be discarded.
What we will have at end of the day once lobbyists are done taking shots at the bill is it will be probably over 1000 pages, with loop-holes, bail-outs, giveaways, moats, barriers etc. and we should consider ourselves super lucky if there are no indirect or direct mandates to pay for all those goodies being added in the bill.
At least three times in Goldman’s conference call Tuesday, spokesmen trumpeted the firm’s support for more federal control.
This reminds me of HCR where there was more federal control, just it was federal control to the benefit of the healthcare industry. Wall Street for instance would love more federal control done in the model HCR – the HCR model being that the healthcare industry had to be punished by the government giving them tens of millions of new customers along with trillions of dollars…Wall Street would just love the punishment by making them take over Social Security and get trillions of dollars and millions of new customers. Just because something is reformed, it doesn’t mean it is reformed for the better – getting rid of Glass-Steagall was done in the name of reform.