When President Obama signed the Student Lending and Fiscal Responsibility Act today, it dealt an enormous blow to Wall Street banks. He deserves huge props for that. I’m not sure people know how big a victory it was. Sallie Mae spent $3 million on lobbyists last year, and got none of what they wanted. Zero, zip, nada (largely because lobbyists like Tony Podesta and Jamie Gorelick screwed up, but we’ll get to that later). Nonetheless, Sallie Mae’s stock soared to a 52 week high upon passage of the bill. His student loan reform package represents, in essence, a “public option” for the student loan system, and demonstrates why proponents were fighting so hard for the same thing in the health care bill.
But it almost didn’t happen.
Let’s back up for a minute and talk about exactly what did happen, what Obama did and why he deserves credit for it. Glenn Beck and Jim DeMint, so-called libertarian “populists” who are supposed to be against government subsidies, are both pretending that this is a “government takeover” of student lending, and that it shuts down private lenders altogether. As if. (I guess Sallie Mae got their money’s worth for the donations they made to DeMint’s campaign.)
What Obama put an end to was not “student loans,” but a giant corporate welfare scam that subsidized the losses of private lenders like Citigroup, JP Morgan and Sallie Mae, who padded their profits by jacking up fees before unloading them on the federal government. Those fees could easily double the loan amounts that students eventually had to pay off.
The federal government was already subsidizing private student lenders with the guarantee that they would absorb the losses if students went into default — a classic “privatize the profits and socialize the losses” program of dubious value even when the banks were lending their own money. But in 2008, when the secondary market for student loans dried up, the government began propping up the industry with the passage of the Ensuring Continued Access to Student Loans Act (ECASLA), which provided $112 billion to buy up the loans of private lenders. The banks were no longer using their own money to make those loans. Jon Walker called it “one of the most corrupt forms of lemon socialism ever created,” noting that “the government stepped in to bailout a fundamentally unsound industry that has been for years wasting billions in taxpayers’ money.”
Meanwhile, the government was also offering direct student loans — as opposed to using Wall Street banks as a pass-through. And in 2006, George Bush’s budget report found that for every $100 lent by private lenders like Sallie Mae, the cost to the government was $13.81, whereas through the direct loan program it was $3.85. There is simply no way you can make an honest “fiscal responsibility” argument for the perpetuation of private government subsidized lending, as DeMint and Beck have done. Absolutely none. They retreat in those moments into a philosophical opposition to “big government,” but their fantasy utopias require that taxpayers subsidize Wall Street banks at ungodly multiples.
The honest libertarian argument would be that the government shouldn’t be underwriting student loans at all, which would mean the end of both private lending subsidies and direct lending. But they aren’t making that argument. Through direct student lending, the government estimates that its origination costs are $5.50 per loan. But when the government buys up loans made by private lenders through the ECASLA program, they pay a $75 fee per loan. Masaccio ran the numbers and estimated that in 2009, that represented a $532 million gift to Sallie Mae from the federal government.
President Obama’s plan represents a savings of $61 billion over the next ten years, much of which is achieved by cutting out needless layers of bureaucracy at the state level that DeMint and Beck pretend to support. State guarantee agencies occupied an “arcane and largely vestigial role in the loan process,” according to the Quick and the Ed. But Beck and DeMint were obviously anxious to see them continue to soak up fat fees for doing almost nothing.
But as I said earlier, it almost didn’t happen. In the final days before the House voted on the health care bill, we launched a campaign to include the student lending bill in the reconciliation process because we knew Congress was not planning to. The White House was fearful that if they tried to do both student lending and health care, they might screw up health care. But if they didn’t pass student loan reform now through reconciliation, Congress would not be able to pass it until next year, as there weren’t 60 “Aye” votes in the Senate, and that would be the next opportunity for passing it with 50 votes.
Fortunately, Obama decided to roll the dice. Whether it was because he didn’t want to piss off students at 12,000 community colleges across the country whose institutions badly needed the money, or because he wanted to cannibalize $18.5 billion to pay for the union deal on the excise tax, or because of pressure brought to bear by campaigns like ours, or just because it was the right thing to do, or all of the above — he did exactly what he said he was going to do. There was no “Sallie Mae compromise,” something that lobbyists like Podesta and Gorelick were pushing for, which would have allowed the big banks to continue to make loans and then sell them to the government within 100 days — again, at $75 a pop.
DeMint and Beck may think that’s some kind of “free market” bargain, but most honest brokers know that paying a company $75 for something you can do for $5.50 is a scam. Sallie Mae and Citigroup can continue to originate student loans until the cows come home–they just can’t manufacture profits by jacking up fees and then dumping their losses on the taxpayers.
Even Dick Morris and David Horowitz’s Front Page Magazine get it:
Glenn, you’re right to be concerned about this stuff but you’ve got it all backwards. This isn’t a government take-over of student loans. Government took over the student loan industry more than 20 years ago when they created a cheaper product subsidized by our tax dollars. (Federally-insured loans now dominate the industry. If you’re going to college then you will pick federal loans over private ones because they’re cheaper and easy to manage.) This is just a move to make the system more efficient and less corrupt so that less of our tax dollars are wasted on corporate profits.
At the same time that FDL was running our “Students not Banks” campaign (which I believe we ran for a few thousand dollars we raised plus some money left over from health care), the Sallie Mae lobbyists were picking off one Senator at a time to support their “compromise.” Don’t ask me how it happened, but they simply didn
‘t see the truck coming. While anyone with the ability to dial a telephone could’ve figured out with a couple quick calls that the Senate HELP Committee was writing a reconciliation-friendly bill with the hope that the House would vote on it when they voted on health care, somehow that missed their attention. They kept bribing urging Senators to add amendments to the original SAFRA bill passed by the House — which had to be rewritten to stand up to the Byrd rule.
I shrugged my shoulders, said “okay whatever,” decided I wouldn’t bust anyone but scratched my head in wonder that anyone would charge $3 million a year and be that ungodly stupid about the reconciliation process. Because anyone with even a School House Rock knowledge of basic civics could’ve told them that their plan wasn’t going to work unless the Senate took up the bill at a later time outside of reconciliation. And you didn’t have to be exceptionally wired-in to know what as going on. The student lending blogs were pretty much talking about it openly.
On March 11, I thought the campaign had failed, as did most other close observers. It looked like Obama wasn’t going to risk health care by trying to pass it. It miraculously came back to life for reasons unknown. Kent Conrad and George Miller got into a huge fight because Conrad insisted on using a new CBO score that estimated savings at $61 billion rather than the $87 billion made at the time the House passed its initial version last year, even though its validity was open to debate. Students lost. Conrad won.
We began a campaign in North Dakota to put pressure on Conrad. And one of the more satisfying moments in running this blog came on March 18, when the reconciliation-friendly version of the House bill dropped. At the same time that Jamie Gorelick and Tony Podesta were no doubt mouthing “oh shit” and dodging calls from Sallie Mae, Jon Walker read the bill and saw that Kent Conrad had inserted a nice little carve-out for himself — the only banks that got a “Sallie Mae compromise” and the continued ability to lay off their loans on the government were state-owned banks.
“Guess which is the only state-owned bank in the entire country–that’s right, it is the Bank of North Dakota,” wrote Jon.
Within hours, Conrad’s staff called the House and told them to pull his own personal “kickback” from the bill. Behold the power of Jon Walker.
Contrary to the predictions of both the big banks and the conservative pundits who love them, when SAFRA passed, it did not mean the demise of student lenders. Far from it. Sallie Mae’s stock soared after the bill passed. Why? Because the government contracts loan servicing out to private companies. Sallie Mae and other private lenders will bid competitively for those contracts. That’s the way it should be. Nelnet’s servicing business was up 13% last year based on the contract they won to service government loans, and when they made that announcement, their stock got a boost, too. That’s the value that private companies add. Being middle men for loans that the government quickly assumes adds no value.
That kind of a dubious business model also makes investors nervous. The other reason Sallie Mae’s stock took off is because the company will now be consolidating their operations, and doubts about the ongoing viability of their business model have disappeared. Their profits are no longer derived from rigging the system, but from providing a service that will have to compete in the marketplace based on quality and performance. Wall Street actually trusts that.
The health care public option died for many reasons. The President didn’t have confidence in it enough to fight for it, and maybe he just didn’t think he could overcome the demagoguery of the Becks and the DeMints who were making the same crap arguments about “socialized medicine” that they were about “socialized student lending.” They were able to poison the national dialog and prevent any genuine argument about “fiscal responsibility” from entering the debate.
But Congress has just created a health care system that is every bit as much “lemon socialism” as the student lending system they just ditched. The government will subsidize the same burdensome inefficiencies in the insurance industry that didn’t work in student lending, and they’ll need to revisit health care reform again. And at that time, we very much hope that President Obama will be able to point to the tangible success of his student lending program to overcome the dipshit faux populists and their amped-up rhetoric about “socialism” to demonstrate how true “fiscal responsibility” works.
N.B.: I don’t know how I got through that whole post and didn’t congratulate George Miller, Tom Harkin and their staffs for the heroic work they did, but they deserve massive credit. It was an incredible accomplishment.




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Wow. I’m amazed.
As someone whose college trajectory was dictated by the desire not to saddle myself or my parents with massive amounts of debt, I salute you.
thanks.
Interesting program on the Student loans changes on the Diane Rehm show
Student Loan Overhaul
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2010-03-30/student-loan-overhaul
Will students be able to refi their current crappie Sallie Mae loans to the gov. program?
I especially enjoyed the part about Bagman Conrad phoning in the pullout. (And The Conrad Wanted Poster). Hopefully, DINO Conrad will lose his re-election anyway.
Good news? It tastes strange…yet delicious.
Great news.
Wow (slapping forehead) — for once a progressive win!
Behold Jon Walker is right!
He deserves huge props for that.
Jane Hamsher praising Obama?! C’est impossible! Just the other day I saw a Kos diary saying she has a PERSONAL GRUDGE against the man! lol
Very good question seconded!
And behold Nancy Pelosi.
Thanks for keeping up the pressure Jane
Obama thanks for doing the right thing, for students
this is off topic but everyone’s gonna love it;
code pink tries to citi arrest rove
man I WILL be able to arrest that twerp if he appears NEAR me without security!
Not sure if this is worth it. I used this WH number 202 456 1111 and after being on hold for about two minutes actually got through to a live VOLUNTEER operator. This woman listened patiently while I explained that fdl had been very critical of POTUS from the left, but this move was greatly appreciated. I mentioned that I thought Mr. Emanuel might be interested. She appeared to take down the title of the post.
funny, they don’t get it
jane and most of the dogs are not opoligists for our party, wrong is wrong regardless of political offiliation, the reverse is also true
Great Capitalist argument for socialism.
Thank you.
clinton admits the free market caused hunger in haiti
o…k….but like the S.H.I.T. (Save Health Insurance Today) Act of 2010, it does not address any real problems other than……let’s get you in debt easier. It doesn’t address the ridiculous fees associated with college and university. It doesn’t address the ridiculous book cost of both college and university. It doesn’t address any real reforms at all, except to make it easier to go into debt. So now students will be able to get loans. What about the education system itself? Why should someone go in debt to their eyeballs for 3 years of college? For what? To get a job that doesn’t exist? Major education reforms need to be done. Just as major healthcare reforms need to be done. This magic…TADA! All fixed, is doing nothing but bandaiding the very real and serious issues. Can’t get healthcare? TADA! Now you have to buy insurance you can’t afford! Can’t afford education? TADA! Now it’s easier for you to go into debt! Can’t wait for the final Dodd bill. Betcha it’ll be another doozy. “Apply bandaid here and give self congratulatory slap on own back”
Little bit more money in the pocket for the grads – so they can spend it on absurd health insurance costs, etc.
The pie can be divided only into so many pieces.
I wish they would stand up for logic and fairness on everything.
My personal thought is that its all part of the roll-out and planning for NOV. Does not matter if a good chunk of lefties are pissed at the health care bill if you are sending money to the youth you also need (and they have not been fooled as many times – so they are some new rubes to work over a few times before they figure it out).
A bit cynical yes, I am glad for this change. I just think this “fiscal responsibility” needs to be applied with an even hand (including against the MIC).
yo perris, I take it today was better than yesterday :)
today was excellant, yesterday was disappointing to say the least, didn’t feel as good as the day before
today it feels like I’ll be beter in a week, yesterday felt like I needed back under the knife
you are on astute individual
link
clinton admits free trade in haiti a HUGE mistake
I agree with the bill, but why is the government squeezing a 4% interest profit margin out of students??
Why are they not providing the loans at cost or maybe a percent to cover administrative costs? Why gouge students?
Agree.
1% of Americans control 35% of our net worth. 80% of Americans subsist on 15% of our net worth.
We need much higher taxes on the top 1%. A financial transactions tax would be a great start. It would start making investment in the REAL economy, the part that makes stuff, the part that creates jobs, a little less unattractive than it currently is.
The current game is rigged in favor of credit swaps and other casino capitalism.
Gee, do ya think Clinton may be coming to the realization that neoliberlism is not the way to go?
/agrees
they are giving casin0′s bank status and “loaning” money at NO interest, why the HELL can they not do that for students?
banks get to “borrow” money at no interest, LOAN IT BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT WITH INTEREST” and they call this some kind of recovery plan
these people are sociopaths and it is amazing we are putting up with that crap
clinton is one of the rare birds that believed the bull crap but was wiling to be proven wrong and change his mind
most people “buying into” mortan crap don’t really believe it but it makes them SO much money they get addicted
This is a big win and all of the contributors to success are to be commended but, as with the other solutions we see coming out of DC, it does not constrain education costs. It’s good to know that this will reduce the amount of money spent over ten years by $61 billion but as canadianbeaver@19 indicated for those that wish to get an education borrowing is not the biggest hurdle. We’re a long time past $120 a credit hour, even from somewhat questionable sources like ITT.
btw
I LOVE the analogy, the government option IS a public option for student loans, WATCH student loan fees in the private sector PLUMMEY as they compete for these dollars
FWIW a far too tepid diary over at Kos supporting Jane Still better than what a lot of those folks have been slinging.
This is an improvement and thank you to those here named (and those who didn’t get named, too!) who helped make it happen!!
OT– “Federal Judge Rules Against Patents On Human Genes” (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010/03/by_scott_hensley_in_a.html?ft=1&f=1001)–
“Exclusive: FEC commissioner helped RNC conceal role in 2004 vote suppression” (http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0330/fec-commissioner-conceal-vote-suppression)–
Thank you. That’s the major problem. All this will do will save the students peanuts, but STILL give these education institutions huge sums of cash, for what? Why is the tuition so high that the debtload has to be this high? Why must a student be forced to borrow and then have 10 years or more of their working life, attempting to pay it back?
Matt Taibbi did a great job helping to expose the fact that Goldman, BOA and others got their billions in TARP funds at 0% and bought Gubmint T-Bills earning 3 percent interest – to the tune of millions in interest.
There should have been a law against using those funds in that way. (To paraphrase Condi Rice: I guess no one could have predicted…) The Feds don’t hesitate to go after a waitress’s tips, but they let Goldman rape us. They think we are f**king r*t***ed.
most of us here believe continued education should be a right just like grade school
it’s an investment in our future that pays dividends
Nice catches, thanks for the links.
and goldman sacks was given “bank status” I believe on a sunday to hide the deal
not sure about the specifics, I believe I read that from matt also
do you have links to his expose?
Only the massively large, TBTF banks that lost so much of their money gambling get that deal. The regional banks in turn have to borrow from the crooks that got us in this mess and they pay interest as well. Everyone pays to refill their coffers. Once the Fed’s proposal to allow these big banks to have no reserve requirements is put into gear then things should get very interesting.
actually, I don’t think they were banks at all, until the deal was brokeredand passed one sundday night turning them into banks so they could get fed money at government prescribed rates
I’m done with kos for now. I never much liked the site anyway. It’s too big and clumsy to navigate. Kos thinks the “HCR” bill is a springboard to something better. I don’t see it. When Insurance companies are made fatter, they will weild even more power to screw the people.
This has been worth celebrating, but I keep expecting some kind of “gotcha.” Like you said, Jane, they can’t be this stupid, right?
Americans have been lied to for so long that it is hard for many to discern the truth. Virtually from the cradle we are indoctrinated to believe that freedom can be achieved only by each of us taking care of ourselves, and not expecting anything from government. Anything else is labeled socialism, and is therefore evil. Interestingly we seem to have no qualms about providing the rich and the corporations with social welfare at every opportunity, somehow this does not seem to equate with socialism. There is a total disconnect in our thinking. I am not advocating that we should not do our part, but the entire system in the United States has become totally distorted. Socialism is seen as a good thing for the rich, and a bad thing for the poor, and somehow we have succeeded in convincing even the middle class (the few who are still left), and the poor, of the validity of this concept. Amazing.
Uh huh. So they’ve passed something, that save students s few dollars really when you think about it. What does it do to address the costs associated with higher learning? Nothing. At. All.
Like the fake healthcare reform, this does not address any real costs of the education, besides who they borrow the money from. So they save some interest, but the bottom line is they still have to borrow megamoney. So once again, no real changes. Tuition fees will continue to rise, all other costs associated with furthering education will continue to rise, and students will get cheaper interest on their loans that will increase. That’s some small victory I guess, but not really anything to get excited about.
I am quite outraged also at those Kos cowards. But this is another SUPER post, and all you college kids might think about saying thanks to Jane Hamsher and Jon Walker.
As far as I know, only the blood sucking vampire squid got that particular deal. Goldman Sachs was highly levered and the days of investment banks were done when they terminated their competition, with a bit of help from Paulson. So they were magically transformed into a bank holding company that holds no banks so they could belly up to the free money bar. The Squid is still highly levered though not has high as JP Morgan if I remember correctly.
There are lots of implications to this beyond the cost to students of loans under the new program.
To begin with, you need to drop back to the early 90′s to understand how the bifricated system began. In the Reagan years the plan was to totally privatize Student Loans, but in 1991 Ted Kennedy and then freshly elected Paul Wellstone made an effort to return the system to the Direct Loans — they did hearings around the country, brought the bill to the floor only to see the bifricated plan established, with colleges and universities being given the option of what kind of loans they preferenced. To get a Direct Loan, the schools had to sign up for the program. What then happened over the years was that the private lenders got into the business of offering “specials” to colleges that refused to sign up for the direct loans — things like a leased Lexus for the Financial Aid Officer of a college, or a small college President. Things like winter conferences about Student Financial Aid at resorts in Jamaica in January for college loan officers. Elliot Spitzer did his number on this while he was NY’s Attorney General, investigating the game in the NY State System. In essence the Private lenders made agents out of College Administrators through the freebee’s on offer. Spitzer also did several serious investigations of trade school fraud, situations where proprietors of schools with weak accredation linked up with private lendors and essentially offered students mostly worthless programs. This is the problem that caught former Governor Weld of MA that became an issue when he ran against John Kerry. (Weld was a named sponsor and trustee of such a school, and received a commission for use of his name. In fact the school was a total fraud.) All this became possible because there were virtually no regulations of the private Student Loan market, and as the private system matured, much more shady dealing and fraud came into the system.
The great advantage of the Direct Student Loan Program — and the original intent of Paul Wellstone’s efforts in this area back in 91-92, was to make it possible for either States or the Federal Government to use the terms of loans to provide a benefit for students of modest income to choose College Programs and Majors that would lead to lower paid public service careers. To illustrate — you might be a student gifted in math, with an interest in teaching math, but from a modest income family dependent on loans for College. Would you prepare for a Corporate Job that would have an entry salary double that of a middle school math teacher? Or would you accept that teachers are always lower paid, and just pay off college for years? What Direct Loans do is allow for terms of loans to be adjusted if one selects the much needed but lower paid career. That possibility is not in the current legislation, but it is open to being extended so as to incorporate such social policy that privileges lower paid public service.
The Direct Loan System has the potential for eventually getting something of a handle on the cost of Higher Education. This is the “next big issue” that needs addressing. It is indeed the loan system that has allowed the inflation of costs over the past several decades. (along with the withdrawal of State Support for State Institutions, and the tendency of well endowed institutions to play in the market rather than use their wealth to control costs to students.) Again, it is not in the present bill, but putting all schools on one basis will allow for eventually taking actions that realistically price college. Is a Freshman Year at Harvard, Cost roughly 50 thousand per year, really of all that greater quality than what a serious State University can offer for perhaps 12 thousand per year? It is a social policy question begging for study.
how’s the hip?
I agree that something needs to be done about the cost of higher ed. Sallie Mae charges around 10.55% interest for private student loans. This is the worst loan they have and is for people with less than perfect credit. The payment would be around $1065 per month on $100,000. If you are ever late they can pop the interest rate up to a credit card percentage. Can you imagine paying 18% on $100,000. I am not sure what the gov rate will be, lets say it is 4%. The payment would be around $630 a month. This is still a ton of cash each month. Now figure an adult will have this burden for years, have to pay rent or mortgage, have to pay mandated health insurance, car, and all of the necessities. You would have to clear $4,500 to $5,000 a month just to live. How easy is that going to be in this economy.
That is why I asked about the refi possibilities.
hi elliott!
yesterday was a tough day, thought I wanted to go back into surgery, I guess I pushed myself to fast and shouldn’t have gone back to work but man it sure would have been worse if I stayed home
today was great, felt like dancing though now the day has taken it’s toll
how are you elliott?
I won’t be president Obama who will revisit health care and make it better. It will be the next true progressive president not a closet republican like Obama.
well, I’ll be happier when the rain moves away and the sun shines again.
Sorry you had a wee but of a setback
but being realistic about how long it takes to heal is not a bad thing.
Hang in there, and you’ll be playing tennis in a month.
Thank you for the information.
Thanks to FDL for highlighting the Student Loan Reform in the Reconciliation bill. The day that I saw the entry here – I started calling and calling the White House, Senator Harkin and the Senate HELP committee members. The staffer responses were non-committal and I expressed my huge disappointment. I’d like to think they made note of that disappointment and changed their minds.
So now I can say THANKS to All – because this Student Loan Reform is progressive policy and that is great news!
But thank God we will have HOPE ! !
Obama Unveils New Department of Ubiquitous Hope – “DUH”
An SPN Headlines Exclusive:
http://stupidassnews.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/obama-opening-new-change-centers/
Keep smiling! :-)
The campaign ad idea is spectacular!
Thanks to all of you principled people at FDL for showing others how it’s done.
(Check “Goraleck” spelling)
wow……….. a win for the people !
Jamie Gorelick concealed evidence that could have prevented the 9-11 attacks and she protected Al Qaeda. She was on the 9-11 Commission despite an enormous conflict of interest.
Mhmm, no. The reason the health bill was attached to the direct student loans is because the direct student loans had more support. The lobbyist didn’t actually put up a very big fight against this because as you say they were still going to administer the loans. This bill has been in the works for a long, long time, and it surprises almost no one that it passed.
Did I miss the big issue???? Attach a minor progressive reform to a major bill at the last minute. At least we get the minor progressive reform. It’s called gorilla politics.
“”It may have been good for some of my farmers in Arkansas, but it has not worked. It was a mistake,” Clinton told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on March 10. “I had to live everyday with the consequences of the loss of capacity to produce a rice crop in Haiti to feed those people because of what I did; nobody else.”
Yeah, Bill? I think you forgot about the Haitians. What an asshole.
Yeah, where the fuck were the “deficit hawks” when this was going down?
This isn’t a “here’s money you need to survive,” it’s a “come raid the Treasury for your own greedy coffers.”
I’m sure Geithner et al. will get right on it.
Immediately upon graduating from college, I got a Master of Arts in Teaching, for which I of course had to borrow $$$. However, since this was 1966-67, the amounts were not as huge as today.
However, if upon graduation I taught at an “impacted” school [one with a large percentage of poor children], 10% of my loan was forgiven per year. This was a mighty impetus to teach in such a school [which I did].
Sara, do you know if such provisions still exist or are envisioned? This seems like a “straight to the source” way of solving two problems at once.
Thank you, BTW, for an informative comment.
Great post and a great win for the good guys.
And Jane you still have it. Nice turn of phrase.
Jane Hamsher wrote:
It miraculously came back to life for reasons unknown.
Other bloggers are reporting the reason was this was part of the deal to get labor to accept the excise tax. Some of the savings are used to write down the amount of the excise tax from what it would be without them. Hard to determine this from CBO scoring report.
If that’s true, it was not Obama and Pelosi doing the right thing for the right reasons. It’s merely less benefit then would have been realized by students then if Obama and Pelosi had done the right thing on health care. The progressive side gets fooled again.
Sister Jane, thanks a lot for all the effort and work on this loan bill.
Seeing this rare bright spot where they listened to well-meaning folks my guess is possible campaign donations on student loan bill were chump change compared to HCR bill that right thing was done for a change for our students and our country.
Their profits are no longer derived from rigging the system, but from providing a service that will have to compete in the marketplace based on quality and performance. Wall Street actually trusts that.
I just wish AHIP & Pharma realized the above obvious fact raised by Jane and paradoxically contributed money to congress and executive branch requesting public option in the final bill which would have resulted in a vibrant economy and value for their profits. As usual obvious truth is hard to see and I really doubt they will realize till the whole economy shrinks by a huge margin and then the same people will blame Americans of being un-competative in the world market place.
Wonder if Sallie Mae was burdened with a lot of non performing loans like Fannie and Freddie. No matter, looks like the federal government will start from scratch with new direct loans for students. Maybe the government can also start from scratch providing new direct loans for residential mortgages.
“However, if upon graduation I taught at an “impacted” school [one with a large percentage of poor children], 10% of my loan was forgiven per year. This was a mighty impetus to teach in such a school [which I did].
Sara, do you know if such provisions still exist or are envisioned? This seems like a “straight to the source” way of solving two problems at once.”
I believe a few such provisions still exist, but they are very few in number.
Whether they exist depends totally on whether appropriations have been made for sustaining such loan forgiveness programs, largely because the principle for student loans of a private nature are in the private sector, and have to be paid for. This is one of the huge disadvantages of the private student loan market — because you are not using Government funding you simply cannot put any sort of social value into the program — large banks, and the sort of non-bank financial outfits that grew up as sources for student loans are not all that ginned up about serving larger social interests. That is why it is SO IMPORTANT to get the whole system back to the Direct Loan Program.
I believe in recent years there were some appropriations for a few loan programs in particularly stressed labor market sectors, such as Nursing — but the Gingrich led Congress after 1994 had no use at all for reflecting larger social purposes in things like student loan programs. They were only interested in the financial bottom line for investors.
We need two things in order to preserve the system Obama has finally managed to build. We need to get segments of voters aware and comprehending of this issue. For middle classed and lower middle classed families that vote, and want to support their kids career interests, we need to offer them the vocabulary and concepts to understand this in terms of their own best interests, and thus a voting interest. I would frankly like to see a Move-On type organization pick up this matter and develop some carefully done advertising that is tested to accomplish this. Why are they, their kids, and their local communities better off with the Direct Loan Program rather than one that subsidizes the financial industry?
Somehow we need to get this issue into the current and future Student Population in such a way that Student based organizations can support the overall policy. Back in the 60′s when Pell Grants were first created, for example, the National Student Association was a very strong and loud supporter on many campuses. They even had their own lobby organization in DC. Publicity about the issues, particularly that published in Student Campus Newspapers was very effective in keeping up Congressional support fot the Pell System. It fell apart in the Nixon Era when the shift from Grants to Loans became national policy. Nixon clearly believed that making college more expensive (Inflation of Costs, cutting State Subsidies to State Institutions), would ultimately diminish serious student movements such as Civil Rights and Anti-War movements — and it is in the period 69-75 that you see the pattern of lowering the value of the Pell Grants, and the introduction of fairly high interest loans into the system. As I suggest, the 60′s era students had associations that kept this issue alive for a decade’s worth of successive generations of students, but it was fairly easily killed off by Nixon’s people. We need to understand how and why this happened, and support rebuilding an “interest group” among current students, students to be, and their families that can sustain itself and oppose those who have the wrong interests.
There is currently in Congress a set of members who have taken large amounts of Campaign Contributions from the Financial Industry over the years to preserve the profits of that industry, and the special subsidies that industry has received. They are still around, and they need to be held up and held responsible for what they have done. Up until last year Deborah Pryce (representing Columbus Ohio) controlled the Leadership PAC that passed out the campaign funds from the financial aid Industry to Republican Members (and a few naughty Democrats too), but with her retirement and the flipping of her seat, the control of the PAC funds has passed to John Klein of Minnesota. If you want to break the power of any lobby, you have to make problems for those who do that lobby’s wishes. In the Senate, Lamar Alexander is the key person on the Republican side — he more or less inherited the job from former Senator Bill Fritz. Just imagine what you could do to Lamar Alexander if Tennessee College Students understood this Financial Issue in terms of their own interests, and started making a bit of noise in Tennessee. Sadly, Students are not informed, and they are poorly organized. And what everyone has to understand is that Students have that status on a temporary basis — they graduate, and are replaced by recent High School Students. You have to understand the temporary nature of Student Status and Interests attached to it, and be prepared to repeat the educational and organizational efforts for each successive generation. There will always be another Nixon you know.
Progress @66 tells us… “I just wish AHIP & Pharma realized the above obvious fact raised by Jane and paradoxically contributed money to congress and executive branch requesting public option in the final bill which would have resulted in a vibrant economy and value for their profits.”
Look — American Business really doesn’t prefer Classic Capitalism and Competition, they prefer Monopoly and methods that Game the System. Trade Associations are all about the business of limiting competition, and above all keeping the system exclusive to the current participants. It is illusionary wishful thinking to assume that they will give up those interests in favor of anything else. You have to be prepared to defeat them and those who side with them.
What passage of the Obama Health Care package does is make it possible for Progressives to mount a number of smaller battles against these money grubbing monopoly interests — such as Pharma. Let’s just take two matters that were excluded from the Obama plan, reimportation of drugs and the ability of HHS to do what the VA already does, namely negotiate for lower prices. Progressives can make this a plank in Democratic Platforms, they can assess who took PHARMA money, and their voting records. They can create a coalition of interest groups around cost controls over medications. Let’s face it, stuffing PHARMA with profits is not exactly a popular political posture — finding ways to control costs is very popular. So you just understand you have to constantly fight Monopoly Interests, and you have to teach the next generation how to keep up the war.
In fact, I love what Obama accomplished — first because it proved to some of our spineless congresscritters that it can be done, and winning even partial victories feels better than giving away everything, but second, because it resets the future battles. Democracy is about knowing your interests and comprehending how to fight for them — and this Obama product gives us a huge opportunity. The question is are we capable of grasping that opportunity and running with it? I don’t know.