It’s very hard to tell from all the information out there
(1) what families making a modest amount (say $50-60 K a year) pay now in health care premiums and average deductibles(using different scenarios from Medicaid to high-end health palns. What they’ll pay over the next 5 years with no change and what they will pay under Health Care bill.

Craig, Pittsburgh

“First, employers, with the exception of the smallest companies, would be required either to offer coverage or contribute the financial equivalent for an essential benefit package for their employees. Employees would be permitted to opt out and purchase coverage as they do today. Second, every eligible Californian would be enrolled in a Medi-Cal or Healthy Families program. The state needs to work with the private sector on creating an effective outreach strategy to achieve this goal of full enrollment. Third, all other uninsured Californians would be required to purchase coverage in the individual market on a guaranteed basis, with no one denied coverage based on a pre-existing condition. Those who can’t afford that coverage would pay their fair share and be subsidized for the rest. Fourth, an essential benefits package defined by independent medical professionals would specify the minimum level of coverage, which would include preventive care, physician services, hospital care and prescription drugs. Some health plans today offer products that don’t meet this minimum level of care. Those products would be eliminated, either voluntarily or through regulation.”

http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-12bodaken-speech.html

Bruce Bodaken – December 3, 2002

Speak for yourself. I consider myself to be an independent…independent of any and all ‘partisanship’ and ‘isms’. If anyone bothers to read through this ‘obama health insurance giveaway’ it is clear, among others who will score hugely will be LAWYERS and not necessarily the personal injury variety. To begin to understand what is in this rotten sausage, you must have at least The Social Security Code and Regulations and same for Medicaid and Medicare as each of these is amended with intentional and unintentional consequences about which we and Congress are currently clueless.

And Mr Obama ain’t nothing but a phony tool of the power elite, period amen. So call me a bloody racist because I abhor his strident, paternal authoritarianism and he happens to be non-white. Go for it.

I abhor the further enslavement of the American people and it is very, very late in the day. The cunning globalists and multinationals sucked our national wealth, our jobs, our inheritance; our ‘free’ elections’ have contaminated our water bodies, our food supply, our culture…as close to extinction as the polar bears and blue fish tuna. And they could care less.

Can we summon the power to resist at this late hour? It isn’t over yet. Now is OUR TIME!

Im torn honestly, as I think most of us Commies and Socialists are. Watching these guys on MSNBC smile and pat themselves on the back actually ticks me off.

Visit: http://www.actblue.com/page/defeat-bart-stupak

1. CBO myth…CBO estimate of HCR costs neglect the $10 billion a year it will cost for IRS to implement the HCR enforcement of the insurance mandate!
IRS will have to hire many people plus more or new IT systems to track everyone in the USA by the month. IRS will garnish from everyone who may not be insured for one month, the penalty owed. Another huge nightmare for the American people. Talk about stress???

2. Most importantly; mental health care in the USA has been thrown under the bus. According to this bill, social workers and marriage counselors will be providing medical care to the mentally ill. That is a social worker with 2 years experience will be ‘counseling’ the mentally ill…in this healthcare reform bill, congress seems to think that marriage counselors are qualified to provide care to the mentally ill who really should have psychotherapy as well as medications prescribed by a MD Psychiatrist! Remember Virginia Tech? Well obviously Congress and the President DO NOT…. the homocidal student was counseled by psychologists all right, MARRIAGE COUNSELORS! As well as campus counselors (social workers?). I am not anti social worker my point is there needs to be a clear understanding: mental illness required trained, licensed, experienced psychologists and psychiatrists… not what lousing insurance companies cover for the mentally ill… remember Dr. Hasan? (in case you have forgotten, Fort Hood ‘psychiatrist’?).

I couldn’t give a rats tail what anyone things… anyone with a brain would see just how God awful this health insurance special interest bill is…

I hope the US Supreme Court throws this bill under the bus so real healthcare reform, free of lobbyists and partisans can begin.