Following the passage of the House health care bill, the outcry against Bart Stupak’s amendment from pro-choice members of Congress was stentorious. Rep. Diana DeGette and Rep. Louise Slaughter co-authored a letter signed by 41 members of Congress, which says quite clearly:
We will not vote for a conference report that contains language that restricts women’s right to choose any further than current law.
That seems pretty straight forward DeGette and Slaughter won’t say who signed the letter, though Jan Schakowsky, Mike Capuano, Mike Quigley, Carolyn Maloney, Judy Chu and Betsy Markey have all said that they did.
Jane Harman, Ann Kirkpatrick, Mary Jo Kilroy, Gabby Giffords, Debbie Halvorsen, Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin, Suzanne Kosmas, Carol-Shea Porter, Dina Titus, Rosa DeLauro, Shelley Berkeley, Tammy Baldwin and Chellie Pingree have all raked in big dollars from rich pro-choice donors over the years by pledging to defend a woman’s right to choose with their dying breath. They just don’t want to say whether they signed the letter or not.
So, does the language in the Senate bill negotiated to make Ben Nelson happy “restrict a woman’s right to choose any further than current law?” The answer is an unqualified “yes.” Let’s review:
- It allows states to opt out of allowing plans to cover abortion in the insurance exchanges, a clear violation of Roe v. Wade. Since some state medicaid programs cover abortion as long as it is paid for with state money, the Hyde amendment (current law) obviously does allow insurance to cover abortion as long as it is paid through a separate non-federal funds.
- It prohibits insurance companies by law from taking into account cost savings when estimating the costs of abortion care, which raises premiums, thus limiting access
- It includes “conscience clause” language that protects both individuals and entities that refuse to provide, pay for, provide coverage for, or refer for abortion.
Choice is already in grave danger with the current radical Supreme Court majority, and every time Congress tinkers with this, it just creates another opportunity for the Supremes to whittle away or reverse Roe v. Wade.
The bottom line: the Senate bill would deal a bigger blow to abortion rights in this country than anything George Bush ever signed into law.
NOW President Terry O’Neill called the Senate bill “a health insurance bill for half the population and a sweeping anti-abortion law for the rest of us.”
Planned Parenthood’s Cecile Richards said the Senate language would leave “tens of millions of women without abortion coverage,” and called it “the most significant restriction in access to abortion coverage in the nearly 35 years since the U.S. Congress first adopted the Hyde Amendment.” She condemned the bill, saying “it is a sad day when women’s health is traded away for one vote.”
An analysis done by George Washington University’s School of Public Health says “because the amendment reaches the design of the product itself, it extends beyond the Hyde Amendment.”
NARAL’s called the abortion restriction in the Senate bill a “dangerous provision. NARAL President Nancy Keenan called it “outrageous” and said “the language regarding abortion coverage comes at too high a price for reproductive health. Thus, we must oppose this new Nelson language.”
Good veal pen apparachicks that they are, however, neither NARAL nor Planned Parenthood scored either the House or the Senate bill — making a complete mockery of their entire scorecard system. The anti-abortion groups certainly did. I guess Congress knows who means business.
Put me down with Newsweek’s Sarah Kliff, who says “we hate this compromise.”
But Nancy Pelosi has said that the language in the Senate bill regarding abortion will not change in the House bill she puts forward on Monday. And Louise Slaughter, co-author of the pro-choice letter, is proposing a “solution” whereby the House votes to deem the Senate bill “automatically passed” once they pass a “corrections” bill. So it appears the head of the pro-choice caucus is actively facilitating passage of Ben Nelson’s attack on women’s reproductive rights.
Despite what Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray said when they told Planned Parenthood and NARAL to get stuffed, the Senate language is not “just Hyde.” As the George Washington University analysis explicitly states, it’s far worse than Hyde. Let’s stop pretending that simply getting Bart Stupak out of the picture is suddenly some kind of sweeping victory for choice.
So I only have one question.
Will DeGette, Slaughter, Schakowsky and other pro-choice members of the House keep their promise to protect a woman’s right to choose, or will they sell them out so the Democrats can get a “win” on a health care bill that will do nothing until 2014 but send the stocks of unregulated insurance monopolies soaring?





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Yes.
Any other silly questions?
To answer the title question, apparently the answer is Yes.
Edit: To bad I’m no longer a constituent of DeGette. I used to think she was one of the better critters.
What cha drinkin’ there?
I have no representative caucus in the HOR.
Democracy, much less progressive Democracy is off the table.
Seconded. Of course they’ll sell out choice–they’ll sell out anything that might benefit their constituents at the expense of their corporate donors. Not only are abortions a politically contested issue, they are a cost that can be removed from the books of health insurance companies.
In a word. Yes.
It would be refreshing to see some traditional Democrats stand on long held principles of their party. Won’t happen.
In fact it doesn’t make that much difference for the women who live in states with Republican governing. Unimpeded access to abortion, even contraception, has become a thing of the past.
In my opinion this battle is lost. Now we have to take them on state by state. That is if enough women care about our poor and the young and uneducated sisters among us.
The bottom line: the Senate bill would deal a bigger blow to abortion rights in this country than anything George Bush ever signed into law.
This is on Obama, no?
Another thing is that Hyde expires every year–the hope being a sensible Congress might come along and not renew it. The anti-choice provisions in the health care bill are permanent.
It’s tempting to trade away individual rights when trying to do something supposedly for the common good, but progressives shouldn’t stand for that. Once lost, those rights aren’t coming back.
Diet Coke… :)
I was trying to firm that up and couldn’t find it. Can you point me to anything on it?
(sliding one Diet Coke through the toobz…)
There’s another element there, I think. It’s hard for people who are prosperous to put themselves in the position of people who are not. That was my motivation for writing this, and (I suspect) Brendan’s for writing this. People with money just don’t remember what it’s like to have to come up with the money for an elective procedure that their insurance won’t pay for.
The richer Congress becomes relative to the rest of us, the worse I think this disconnect will get.
Hell, by the time the Dems are finished I won’t be surprised if student loan applicants are prohibited from getting abortions.
Bullseye, Jane, as per usual.
I went to this big pro-choice event this week. A bunch of women were telling me that the Senate language meant some amazing victory over the evil Bart Stupak. I said “but it still restricts a woman’s right to choose,” and they told me that was okay because the bill did all these other great things for women’s health.
Ever feel like you wandered into Jonestown?
Don’t know how firm you need to be, but here’s what the Susan B. Anthony Center has to say on the subject:
In short, it applies to Medicaid, which must be renewed every year.
That I knew — it’s the part about being codified in the Senate bill I haven’t been able to confirm. But thanks, that’s good to have.
What’s the price of tea in D.C.?
Ha! They hadn’t thought of that one yet, but I’m sure they’ll appreciate the idea.
Until this year, I wasn’t a cynic. I actually believed in “hope and change.” I am bitterly disillusioned. I posted once at another site about the big flaws of this bill and the abortion restrictions were one of my big reasons. I got blasted out of the water– by a woman. She was sick and tired of abortion being used as a reason. Obviously she didn’t expect to ever be in the position of needing one, but isn’t that just it? She said she wanted access to insurance so she could start a family, though. Go figure.
And can we please just have a roll call vote for this stupid POS bill? It says something, doesn’t it, that the politicians appear to be doing everything they can to avoid having to publicly and officially own this legislation. If they can’t own it, it shouldn’t be passed.
It would be nice if all the angst and delay had led to passage of a good bill but alas, passing a kidney stone would be preferable.
I want to know how Ben Nelson and Bart Stupak got their uterii… is it some form of genetic mutation?
Firepups, maybe it’s time to start mailing/shipping coat-hangers to Bart Stupak’s office in DC… truckloads of them. And if there’s a jewelry maker who can make a nice silver coat-hanger brooch for DeGette and other women to wear as a symbol of their resistance to this legislation every time they are on the floor of the house, it would certainly send a message.
Forgive me for possibly putting words in your mouth, but this is something that bothered me a lot about the Obama campaign. Many of its followers seemed to believe that electing him would just change everything. Regardless of Obama’s abilities or intentions, that was always a naive assumption. There are lots of people in DC, both elected and otherwise, who can have a profound effect on what the government does and how well it works. Just changing the guy at the top wasn’t going to change that. Lots of other people needed to change, too.
That’s a discouraging thought, but a realistic one. At this point, I may be less discouraged than you are, though.
Huff Po has a headline: “Pro-life group urges Congress to pass Senate health care bill”
If pro-lifers are for the bill, I am worried.
Very good blog. I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for the link and to Brenden’s also.
I agree whole heartedly with your observation as to the unawareness of those who have never been poor.. It especially applies to “Liberal elites.” They frankly kept me with hope for the Republican Party for too long a time.
However there is a more active hatred and desire to punish the poor among many many if not all who now call themselves Republicans and conservatives.
I confess I made up my mind some time ago that this bill is a piece of junk that will be a disaster for the poor. But I am fatigued with thinking about it and ready to just stand back and let it go.
Somewhat tangential you might like my blog a teaser on what I hope to write more about as to maternal and infant care issues. It is here.
Dems and Reps have been playing these games for years.
The biggest change has been people like Jane exposing these pieces of crap that go around talking like progressives and governing like right wing republicans.
The arrogance these morons have is astonishing.
What use to keep these bums in power is their friends in the MSM, that lie and hide the truth from the masses and keep average americans in the DARK.
Ed had one of the biggest fools in the MSM on last night John Alter of newsweek, he stated “the problem with the public option is it has no public support” unlike the Obama and Max Baucus Health Care scam that 54% of the nation hates.
You don’t become a piece crap overnight, so we can assume that they have been doing this deceptive crap for years.
Glenn Greewald articles are right on point. The Dems in congress are screwing their base.
In the near, near, future we will get to screw them royally!
If they pass this HCR scam, the MSM is going to try to call it a Progressive Bill, this is when all HELL needs to break loose, this is a republican Bill.
You can look at Robert Gibbs body language and tell he has seen the end of OBAMA. So DEMS who follow Obama deserve to join him in the un-employment line.
A friend to the unborn while he was cheating on his wife with his mistress. Swell guy, that Hyde. Wonder if he’d have made his mistress have an abortion if he knocked her up. Magic 8 ball sez: Yes.
lol! Gleen Greewald?
An affectionate nickname, I hope.
I’m in DeGette’s district and her office hasn’t lied to me – yet. I have not asked about this specific topic though. I will.
I wonder is she gets a pass from leadership, being a chief deputy whip, to vote no…
Cujo,
No, I never believed he would be inaugurated and then things would magically change. But I did believe (foolishly, apparently) that he meant at least some of his campaign promises. He has let us down on just about every one of them. No, he can’t make Congress pass any particular legislation, but he can at least push them, hard, in a direction. His failure to push for single payer or a public option was not an accident. It was deliberate. And it was a betrayal, one of many (see EFCA, DADT, civilian trials for terrorists, etc). And it is that which makes me feel foolish for ever believing in “hope and change.” Since then, I’ve watched the House and the Senate play hot potato with the public option, taking turns being good cop/bad cop in the struggle to be for or against it as needed. It’s always the other guy who makes it impossible. I could live with this bill better (not happily, but better) if it passed after a roll call vote where every Senator and Congressperson had to vote on the record. Then at least there would be a record of who was listening to their constituents (big business) and who was listening to the voters.
Legal or illegal, people like Hyde, Stupak and Nelson could arrange abortions for friends, family, or mistresses. Their public stance on abortion isn’t motivated by their alleged sense of morality, it’s just about power and control.
If this bill passes maybe we could start a fund to help poor women with abortion and birth control. We need to be two steps ahead of the people standing in the way of the rights of women.
Simultaneously here, there is a big petition drive on the ground for the “Personhood” Amendment to get back on the ballot in November.
I was solicited 2x today doing errands, one time in front of Home Depot, and the other was a door knock this morning – in my deep blue district!
The heat is on and if DeGette caves, her district will not like it one bit.
Just once I’d like to see a real journalist ask one of those pro-birth jackasses why the hell it is so important for children to be born if they don’t want to do a fucking thing for them once they’re on the planet. We were all fetuses at one time, yet now we don’t deserve healthcare.
Thanks. I’ll try to keep visiting.
I suspect that I’m just too immediately affected by this bill to let it go, but I understand the weariness. I feel it, too.
It’s not just the people that need changing, it’s the entire fucking system. This doesn’t work anymore. To the richest go the spoils.
“Do as I say, not as I do.” Some days I think that should be inscribed on the entrance to the Capitol.
Book Salon up at the Mothership with Yves Smith’s ECONned: How Unenlightened Self Interest Undermined Democracy and Corrupted Capitalism hosted by masaccio
But…but…but…AHIP wants it done and Barry wants it done AHIPs way.
Despite the polling and any real reading of where too many poor,near poor,crap job employed,underemployed or fenced out by education hurdles and the economic blight that covers big American ex cities like Detroit or NO or Colorado Springs there will be no real or meaningful change in American HC.
On a take off the old ” the beatings will continue until morale improves” we now have ” AHIP will be overlord of American HC on AHIP terms and getting critical sick or needing better dental,vision or therapy outcomes is your own damn fault– just quit it and stop being so damn needy”.
I will go with “yes” and Barry and his D Party sold us out a year ago.
AHIP is going to get what it wants and Barry is working damn hard to make sure AHIP gets what it wants. He didn’t tell you that? You been had!
Yes We Can. And don’t you forget it. Now get me some Change! Hop to it!!
Obama’s actual record indicated this was how he’d behave, although I have to admit that, as low as my expectations were, I was a bit surprised at how thoroughly corrupt he’s been. The lesson here is that it’s someone’s actions that define who he is. What he says, if he’s being honest, just shows who he’d like to be. If he isn’t honest, well, there will be little correlation between words and actions.
That’s why I keep telling people that I figured this guy out early on. It’s not because I think I’m smarter – it’s because this is an important lesson. If we learn nothing else as a nation from the Obama Administration, it should be that.
If i do get more written I will put it in the Seminal also.
I have given up on going through the political system as long as Obama is president. I am looking more to interest group and non-profit organization.
It reads as hubris, regardless of your actual intent. Voters, having been burned by Obama and other Dems will learn a lesson… or not. They are not puppies, repeatedly rubbing their noses in this mess serves no genuine constructive purpose.
but of course Mary good idea. But that anyone can force “Their” Morals really rankles me… It is totally UnAmerican! Where is our Moral Courage to demand “Separation of Church AND State”
No Bill Should use Religion as a basis of the the meaning of the bill, restrict you own right to your own body. you know this whole abortion crap, Where some goody two shoe tells you what You can Do with YOUR OWN Body… I mean you do live in it don’t you?? Fuck em all!!! Every woman has the right to make her own choices about HER body… You sure can’t separate the two of them without dire consequences can ya??…
I agree and more. We are going to have to almost start over at the grass roots and organize first to help our sisters, then to push back the laws.
We really need to access our outrage that nahant is expressing and quickly. I truly think with this arrogant SCOTUS Roe v Wade is in danger.
Interesting that it seems people who last summer didn’t want the government managing their health care are now saying they want the government to make decisions about women’s access to abortion?
I can’t help what people read into my posts. Frankly, anyone who believed the nonsense needs to be reminded, because there were clearly plenty of them who didn’t get it before, even while I was explaining it at the time. It wasn’t hard to figure out.
Nice pun, Jane.
Yes. It. Does.
Thank you.
I’m so fucking tired of hearing “it was pretty clear to see the real Obama if you were just looking.”
Bullshit. They spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours refining and marketing and doing everything they could to make sure we WOULDN’T see the real Obama.
And that makes HIM AND THEM the ASSHOLES. Not us.
Thank you ratfood.
Agree with you and ratfood. All you could observe at the time was FISA, and if you were so inclined the Donnie McClurkin fiasco and Saddleback/Rick Warren episode.
You could dislike those events, and they could make one a bit suspicious, but the whitewashing around them was quite effective given the backdrop of the alternative; Grumpy McCrazypants and the Snowbunny from Hell.
It was literally a no-win situation, but it was not “knowable” at the time. One could only be suspicious.
Oh, and apologies to Cujo. I know that read harsh, and like it was directed at you. It wasn’t really meant to be, does seem like it. I’m sorry.
It’s just I’ve been accused of being everything from “not paying attention” to outright “delusional” and my sensitivity to this subject is off the meter. That’s my bad, not yours or anyone else’s. But right now I’m unable to fix it.
Because I am about as angry as I’ve EVER been in my LIFETIME regarding politics. I’m not exaggerating when I say I literally couldn’t wait for election day last year to vote for this asshole. No, I didn’t expect magic, overnight, change like some have accused of us. But what I did expect was that he would change the direction of those things that he could.
Not. Not only has he deliberately NOT changed direction, he’s even doubled down on a lot of the previous administration’s wrong doings. From outright lying (direct broken campaign promises) to just obscuring the facts, this guy is just one BIG FUCKING ASSHOLE.
And regarding health care, I really believe I’ve figured out (finally) what is really going on. For the longest time I’ve said this really seems surreal, and couldn’t figure it out. I think I have.
You see, health care reform has been tried for decades. This time they knew they couldn’t just fail like all the other times because the public wouldn’t stand for it. So this time they devised a neat little plan. The Democrats will pass this rotten piece of shit in an election year, only to have the Republicans campaign on repealing it. Then, when the Republicans win big, they will repeal it.
And then the moral of the story will be, “see, we just can’t do health care reform in America. The one time we actually got something passed the American people voted to repeal it before it ever took affect.”
Pretty devious plan. And I really believe it’s true.
I imagine most of us had moments such as the Rick Warren thing but equally most are surprised at the extent of how little we discerned about the nature of his leadership and economic philosophy. He really held his wish to co-habit with Wall Street in secret.
My greatest suspicion (and discarded) was aroused by the way his campaign related to the local parties and in particular the liberals. I recall thinking this man is not ideologic but establishing a personality cult. But that is all milk spilt.
Concur – I just saw that happen AGAIN with Mitch Stewart of OFA in town, telling people how to keep (CO) appointed Sen. Mike Bennet IN, and keep a primary opponent Andy Romanoff OUT.
Maddening.
The best place to find info on this is unfortunately the pro-life websites. (I hate clicking on them.) They seem to have done their homework much better than NARAL et all. They are now very concerned about the $7 billion in funding for Community Health Centers via Sander’s push and included in Reid’s Manager’s Amendment.
“Community” health centers could bypass Hyde all together. And the way I see it, they could be right about that. If states opt out because of Nelson Language, would that affect the local jurisdictions? Maybe not. Many city governments provide health care benefits to gay partners foe example.
I think the battle at the county levels has just begun, but first we have to make sure that the Community Centers do provide the full range of reproductive health services.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat5867.html
If it comes to FDL calling for people to whip votes against this bill–and they should–prepare to batten down the hatches…
Those with money, don’t seem to understand any progressives or liberals that do not right now. Both sides of the political equation have blinders on to what everyone else is saying. If this was just about Health Insurance Reform, and not about further screwing main street, would it have taken this long? Come on, it’s not rocket science. They are intentionally making this harder than it has to be. Why would they do that? Follow the money behind both D’s and R’s. When all is said and done, it will be main street once again, with the wooden stake in it’s heart. And both sides of the aisle will be pointing fingers and accepting no blame. It’s sad because it didn’t have to work this way.
I’m having a regular coke. And I’m making a list. It isn’t in alphabetical order. The first name on the list starts with ‘O’.
I repeat. Look to the state laws also. I am certain there are some states that are reproductive care friendly. Few if any of the GOP red states are and some/many have already virtually eliminated access to contraception or abortion by ordinary people.
batten, to be sure. and the flack hamsher is taking in some quarters for standing on principle is deeply unedifying. these people won’t get any clicks from me.
Concur. There was information on his (extremely thin) record, and it wasn’t promising. But I, too, am confounded at how bad he is.
Jane,Jane,Jane, your being funny again aren’t you? Will the pro choice caucus sell out? Of course they will, that is what the progressives in congress do, sell out progressives. Just be glad that Nelson does not demand that women be forced to wear burkas bcz Nancy wld pass that too. I hate to say this but if progressives are banking on Pelosi and Obama to fight for our causes we are stoopid.
We will have to look at both. If community centers could backdoor the states who opt out I would put my dogs in that fight. We have been methodically back-doored via states since Roe was made law. I don’t know. Maybe the community center jurisdictions could sue and tie the states hands. Just trying to think out of the box here.
Look. Jane asked where she could find info on the future of Hyde and this POS bill. The only place I have seen it is the pro-life sites. That reiterates NARAL and all aren’t doing their job. Her question and further research on this is pertinent and the info is lacking. Please feel free to go find other sources for her, for all of us, for that matter, rather than bash people who are looking for this info.
I am for any kind of thinking and doing in and outside the box.. It’s going to take it all.
Educate me. Are the community centers not regulated at least in part by states?
I am mostly expressing my personal concern that people who live in major cities and states with rational government don’t know how bad it is in some like mine. Not surprisingly, next to DC we have the highest mortality associated with pregnancy and much of that is related to inadequate access to full reproductive health care.But it is a harbinger of what can be done in the whole country.
We just have to keep at it. It will be tragic if Stupak’s language is passed and yes it may be there forever if it is. But I really think that horse has left the barn………. but Kudos to Jane for not giving up.
Yes, a House member who votes for the Senate votes for the abortion provisions in the Senate bill. All this reconciliation talk is a smoke-screen. President Obama will sign the bill and it will become law. Then Congress will move on to other issues.
Yes, if the House passes the Senate, with or without the Slaughter trick, it’s over. President Obama signs the bill and the abortion language in the Senate bill stands. Congress moves on.
I don’t know all the details, but the Fundies got their undies in a bunch when Bernie got the funding for the centers:
They are way upset about a movement that has already started this:
Our rights are being sold away from us by democrats who have caved to a president who has sold out. The health care bill has many unknowns as we all know. We have been given the so called “good stuff” which is bad enough, but a corporate giveaway of this magnitude is simply corrupt to the max.
Women have fought for decades for equal protection,choice,and self determination. RowvWade is being diluted and obstructed by democrats anxious to please Obama o matter what. They are all frightened cowards who really are worthless when we review their sordid behavior and their kickbacks for votes.
This healthcare bill is a disaster. We see drugs and policy premiums rising, with no drug importation allowed, a hold on many generics, and the hold on Medicare’s ability to bargain for drugs is more than disgustingly corrupt.
We have Obama and his backroom deals to thank for shafting the voters who elected him. The cold bloodd cluelessness of Stupak and Nelson along with the above sellouts makes this a monumental disaster for the democrats.
I have donated and supported Emily’s list and many of the House women in their fundraising when running for office.
Those women who vote for this bill will never see a penny from me or any of the women we will organize and mobilize against for this betrayal.
It’s time we women create an authentic organization that represents all of our rights along with reproductive rights. The word Feminism has been framed by the right wing, and now by conservadems as either a disease
or an inconsequential idea. It’s time that we think seriously about not being passive and recognize that without full freedom and equality
for women there cannot be a strong and healthy demcratic society.
We really must organize and put our votes to the test.
Thanks for the good information.
But being state by state located I would think they would be subject to state laws for for even the services not funded federally at the least. That would be fine for Vermont or New York etc.
For example there is pending legislation: In Oklahoma if they have their way all kinds of personal, including sexual, history must be made a part of the public record on ANY woman requesting an abortion. In Utah it can be a criminal offense for a woman to ask a non professional for help in seeking an abortion. In SD ALL spontaneous miscarriages are to have criminal investigations.
Currently In most states women are required to look at the sonogram before obtaining an abortion. I have a whole CD sent out by the state of Georgia on what I must and cannot do as regrards abortion.
And there are some states such as Kansas that the providers have been so terrorized by RW activists that there are few left in the state.
Pharmacists are permitted to not dispense prescribed morning after medication…….. and on and on.
I agree completely . But I have no idea what it will take to activate those women most affected. Many of us have for years been speaking to young women in groups and individually, warning of what is happening. I have found very few of even the most activist liberal women who react to the concern. Most in fact disavow feminism. .
Is there really any more left to say about these useless Democrats?
Can you really say and literally so, that this healthcare bill helps the poor and the working poor and the dwindling “middle class” group of Americans?
If this bill was so GREAT, it would have been passed already….This bill stinks from A-Z and the Democrats cannot stand up and yell from the rooftops about how wonderful it is. The Democratic Party are useless….I hate this bill and since have not paid much attention to the latest snake sale of this bill from Slippery Pelosi and Dirty Harry and Fraud Obama and Scumbag Emanuel.
Wall of Shame. Put their names and faces up in perpetiuty for all to see, with actions and statements demontrating their deceit. Make sure they always know that who they are, and what they do is posted 24/7/365 for all to see with a click of a mouse.
Use the big hammer.
Huh. Well, one does have to wonder what would happen to the Hyde ammendment idea in a single payer system. I imagine it might apply.
You would think that a private insurance system would preserve “abortion coverage.” I wonder how much the attempt to preserve said coverage–in upper middle class comprehensive insurance programs– went into this tendency to sell single payer down the river, along with the downscale uninsured who are taking it HARD on the chin with this Senate insurance ripoff bailout bill.
I would put nothing past the ladies auxilliary. Nothing.
“If this bill passes maybe we could start a fund to help poor women with abortion and birth control. We need to be two steps ahead of the people standing in the way of the rights of women.”
Yes, I think the ladies auxillary should do that. Didn’t we say they were GREAT fundraisers? Let our contemporary professional feminists put their money and muscle where their mouths are.
In other words, it is kind of interesting that the D-Party enabled this Stupak ammendment to make incursions into the Ladies’ auxilliary’s OWN upper middle class private health insurance plans.
I just can’t get my bloomers in a bunch about it. It’s not a national emergency.
Do something concrete. Support Connie Saltonstall in her Primary campaign against Bart Stupak:
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/24052
Could those centers include Planned Parenthood centers?
Thanks so much for finally pointing out what women’s groups have not: the Nelson amendment is almost as bad as Stupak. It’s a teeny tiny bit better, in that women may use their own money to purchase abortion coverage with their own money if they so choose, regardless of any subsidy they have. Unfortunately, I think the reality is that it would have the same effect on the insurance market. Why offer a benefit that other plans are not, that imposes extra administrative burdens, and that, quite frankly, the public seems unwilling to demand?
The reason this law would “codify” Hyde is that it is by nature a new law, which will be permanently on the books. The Hyde amendment is signed into the budget yearly (and is included in Obama’s budget this year), therefore is not a law that would require overturning. All it would require would be a president and congress that simply didn’t include it one year.
Planned Parenthood wouldn’t qualify as a federally qualified health center because they do not provide comprehensive services. FQHCs must meet certain requirements about what they provide and to whom they provide it. Planned Parenthood exclusively provides reproductive health care, not services for other medical problems like high blood pressure, diabetes, etc.
I concur. The movement I mentioned above are with Bernie in upping the number of Primary Care Physicians and Nurse Practitioners at the Community Health Centers. Reading further into their movement, of course the CHC refer to Planned Parenthood, but they are encouraging Planned Parenthood refer people to the primary care docs at CHC’s for more comprehensive and the full ranch of care.