Student loan lobbyists have been distributing a memo around Capitol Hill, with the misleading claim that if the FFEL program is eliminated in favor of direct lending, 35,000 jobs will be lost. The claim has been repeated in Time, The Hill, the National Journal and the New York Times, just to name a few.
In fact, there are only 30,000 people employed in the entire industry, which includes three different sectors: origination, guarantee agencies and loan servicing. The number comes from a survey conducted by the National Council of Higher Education Loan Programs — an association for student loan companies. The only sector that would be replaced entirely by direct lending is origination, the least labor-intensive of the three. According to Ben Miller at the Quick and the Ed:
Loan origination in its most basic form is the process of obtaining the money for student loans and transferring those funds to borrowers or to their institutions. This is a very inexpensive activity. According to information from the U.S. Department of Education, its complete cost of originating a Direct Loan last year was around $5.50. That figure includes around $1.50 in administrative and other expenses.
When you compare that with the $75 per loan that the student lenders are currently being paid for loan origination under ECASLA, you get an idea where the savings in SAFRA are going to come from.
Servicing jobs would actually increase, because private companies are being awarded contracts to service all of the direct loans made by the government. Nelnet (Ben Nelson’s biggest donor) saw their servicing revenues increased 13% in 2009 as a result of a contract they won to service student loans for the Department of Education, and their stock rose 6% on the news.
And most of the jobs in the guarantee agencies (roughly 4000-5000) are being saved courtesy of money stipulated in the SAFRA bill itself.
Tim Ranzetta of the independent Student Lending Analytics estimates that more realistically, “the number of U.S. based jobs related to federal student loans is likely to range from a net increase of 300 jobs to a net loss of 4,750 over the next several years.” Pedro de la Torre at the Nation puts the number “between 170 net US jobs lost under the worst interpretation, and 1,870 US jobs gained under the best.”
Whether the jobs on the origination side are even in jeopardy is open to speculation. Sallie Mae says that 2,000 of their 8,000 employees may lose their jobs, but they are also bringing 3,500 jobs back to the US in order to qualify for the servicing contract on direct loans they were recently awarded. Citibank, the second biggest student loan originator, recently reassigned 5% of its loan origination and servicing employees (43) to the company’s credit card business rather than laying them off. Citi CEO Vikram Pandit said “whether or not the government makes the loan, somebody needs to process them, and we’re doing that right now.”
None of these estimates factor in the jobs that would be saved or created by money going to state education programs with the passage of SAFRA.
Ranzetta has done a series of posts on the true jobs situation. You can read more here, here, here and here.
The bottom line: job losses in a tough economy are nothing to treat lightly, but the claims made by lobbyists don’t hold to close scrutiny, and the jobs impact must be weighed against the number of students currently enrolled in each state if money that could be going to schools is instead propping up a costly and unnecessary industry that is surviving only because of government subsidy.
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Gee, I can’t imagine why the folks at banks would lie to us about the job numbers impact.
Why do they always make up these numbers when it is so easy to refute? Just like the folks who were around FDL a while back claiming that 100k people in the Dept of Education were making over $100k per year in salary.
And my SWAG would be that all of the above are folks who take 2 or 3 different sets of numbers, mash them all together and then run with the results.
Even if the 35,000 number were true, and it isn’t, that number is dwarfed in comparison to the MILLIONS of college students that are assisted in becoming more employable through affordable education.
So the cost analysis falls apart immediately.
Lobbyists have never felt compelled to tell the truth when it comes to getting what they want and our intrepid media has become a group of he said, she said stenographers. When people of means say something, they dutifully jot it down and when people who want to help say something, they scornfully jot down their opinion of what was said. News for profit has become as dangerous to our Republic as money in politics.
I realize I’m on the shit list here but thought you’d like to know. The Georgia Legislature asked the Chancellor of the University System to report back on the impact of an additional $300 million in cuts this year. The answer was 4000 lost jobs and cutting 4-H. Everyone went nuts about 4-H, the jobs. . .not so much. Asshole Norquist was here today protesting the addition of a dollar-a-pack tax increase on smokes up from the insanely low 37 cents.
Heh.
When I first started smoking at age 14, I could buy a pack of cigarettes at the drugstore for $.23 (Mom would buy cartons direct from the wholeseller for $1.50)
hey raven,
nice twist on the “jobs lost” argument. How many jobs are being lost on campus due to cuts and lowered enrollment because loans are becoming too expensive? Even if it’s only one job per campus, that’s more than the loan industry’s number.
haha, my mom quit smoking when they slapped taxes on cigs here in calif.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Student loans, credit cards, home mortgages, healthcare fallin apart, crumbling schools, largest state bankrupt, 150,000 tax paid mercenaries in the field against 125,000 GI’s…JEEzus, what is it gunna take ta convince the corporate media that the empire is naked and broke??!! Our family has been lucky to this point, we have put 3 kids through undergraduate school without ANY debt. Our youngest is on the ledge ready ta jump into graduate school, her choices are a state university with a good applied program, assistanceship money and loans for 2 years or an exclusive private university with loans from endowment funds whose terms and payoff would be better (cheaper) than the little bit of loan money she’d have out under the free market student loan programs from the public school…can you figure that one for me?
Our entire country is broken and it’s not gunna get better unless we can find 50 progressives in the House of Representatives who are willin’ ta stand up to the Chiffon elephants of the corporate oligarchy and kill the healthcare bill unless Obama pushes reconcilliation through the Senate first…50 members of the House of Representatives who would be willin ta play chicken with Rahm Emmanuel and force Obama ta save his own ass and do the right thing.
If we get a decent reconciled healcare bill out of the Senate, the rest of the issues of bankin reform, jobs and EFCA will take care of themselves.
As a parent and a grandparent, I salute your most recent campaign against the student loan machine…you get another silver star for your Norske Medal of Citizenship, Sister Jane….who loves ya, babe?
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS FIGHT WILL GO ON UNTIL WE WIN!!
And I believe I saw something on trex’s facebook updates about the potential job losses. It sounded like the radio was going to take a big hit as well as 4H
Oh, and tell ol’ Grover that it was REAGAN that slapped the taxes on cigs as governor of california.
if it’s good enough for the gipper, it oughta be good enough for the grover.
mwahahaha!
not only will there be more jobs created when the government takes back these loaning obligations, thos jobs will be living wage union jobs, far better for the economy
Citizen Raven:
What shit list? Come on, stop feelin sorry for yerself, that ain’t you Brother…anyways what kinda weak assed shit is that “list” compared ta the shit you’ve run your scrawny butt through? Keep lobbin’ them in on the target, Citizen, we’ll getcher back. (And that point about jobs and income lost on public college campuses and public schools should be run on Ed Scultz, Olbermann and Madow… privatizin’ public services is the final contradiction.)
As a staunch Democrat, I am invariably disappointed in my fellow Democrats for being short sighted and somewhat narrow-minded. And this issue reinforces for me in my furthering this belief.
Here we are attempting to put a ‘fix’ or a Band-Aid (oops a trademark) on a public wound that need not occur. I have long advocated for an Academic-Military Draft in which a ‘volunteer’ can enter our armed forces at the age of 18, either as a high school graduate or as a high school drop out. And the end of a three-year time frame, the ‘volunteer’ would walk away with both a GED and a two-year degree in general studies. Consequently, attending a college or university of choice, with a loan guaranteed by the government that would cover the cost of third and fourth year academics, would be far more advantageous to our fellow citizens, the taxpayers, and equally important, “empower” the Individual, and the ‘volunteer’ in this instance.
Therefore, when I think of the Democratic Party, I think that my fellow Democrats, and especially, Democratic Women, should be arguing for a total remake for the Democratic Party becoming, as in the Art of Becoming, the Party of Equality. Until then, the folks like Jane Hamsher, will continue to be ‘trashed’ by the existing cadre of political bloggers such as Matt Yglesias and Kevin Drum, to name just a few, for her visible opposition to the exisdting HCR.
Consequently, as a Staunch and Stodgy Democrat, the Party of Equality appeals to me and engenders in me the desire to escape the bounds of the existing Status Quo. And in doing so, I would follow folks like Jane Hamsher, et al. and America’s Democratic Women provided I can rant and rail as a means of greater encouragement for women to expand the limits of what is do-able here in our America.
Jaango
Correct me if I’m wrong, but even assuming the 35,000 number is true:
$4.7B “student loan banker” 2010 subsidy
/35,000 “student loan banker” jobs
=$134,000 subsidy/job
Now if that number is inflated…
At 5000 jobs that comes out to $939,000 subsidy/job in 2010.
And after all that subsidy do we have anything additional to show for it, like a new bridge or tunnel or bike path or green technology …or more education for the kids? Nope, tiddly-winks.
This is the biggest no brainer ever (credit to Obama for saying as much). But if he gets rolled on this, his pikerdom will be truly sealed, yet again.
if you still smoke you should try those “electric cigs”, they’re pretty effective and even though they’re not allowed to tell you they will help you stop if you want, they will
it will save you tons of money, don’t get trapped buying the cartridges when they dry out, you can buy your own mixture or even mix your own and pay pennies on the dollar, get a good nicotine fix and be able to reduce your niccotine cravings if that’s the route you want to go
I know tons of people who are “vaping” (vaporising) and down to zero nic
give that a go, at the very least you’ll save money and take money out of the tobacco industry’s pocket
o/t to Jane: There’s a poll in a diary on Daily Kos right now, and you’re in it, fyi:
Well, maybe saving money while not killing troops and civilians in misguided aggressive wars would be more of a no-brainer.
Lord, I quit smoking cigarettes 12/04/74. I always swore I would never pay more than $.50 a pack and they were $.45 in the machines when I quit.
No way in hell could I afford cigarettes these days.
Does the Mainstream Media ever print retractions when they are wrong? Retractions in the same space taking up the same amount of space as the lies they tell?
Is the Times ever going to demand Judy Miller give back her Pulitzer?
Pie got 6% of the votes? I just finished a piece of pie and can find absolutely no threat what-so-ever to HCR.
Yup.
Are we going to pay fees to people, in order to allow other people to pay additional fees simply to pay for their education?
Or could we remove the middlemen, and simply pay for education?
$6.53 per pack in central Texas.
Norskeflamethrower I agree with you totally, I guess if they had television news, internet, blogs, etc. when the ROMAN empire fell this is how it would have look.
Chris Hedges article yesterday hit the nail on the head the AMERICAN EMPIRE IS OVER and the FALL is going to be HORRIFIC.
It is funny and sad how deceptive the Corporate Media ignores the effects of NAFTA, OFF SHoring, etc. etc. No one ever talks about how gutting the USA MFG base destroys the USA.
Bankers use to ask clients are you going to make your product in CHina and sell it in America, because this is what we want you to do. The BANKERS and GOVT are insane, we are bailing out BANKS, that promote sending jobs to CHINA and GOVT also promotes this policy, no NATION can last when it tramples on it citizens.
Like they say nothing last forever! Better learn how to speak Mandarin quick
But then how will the middlemen make money?
And if the middlemen don’t make money, how can they pay Jamie Gorelick and Lanny Davis the fees that they deserve…and make donations to PACs and buy steak dinners for staffers?
You may say middlemen, I say multiplier effect.
/s
Thanks for this post and the new initiative, Jane.
I have a difficult time figuring out which is more shamefull; not educating our populace, not meeting the medical needs of our populace, or allowing our populace to be preyed upon by thieving money grubing leeches disguised as bankers, brokers and advisers.
Yea, his station will be gone. Actually none of that probably will happen except job cuts.
C-rats used to have 4 packs of Luckie’s or Pall Malls!
I vote for pie!
Not only that, we are sacrificing any lead we may have in technology. You simply can’t develop something and promply transfer it to a foreign nattion for manufacture and expect to stay ahead.
While in Germany it was 20 cents a pack.. Easily sold for 4X times that to your German friends…. And they loved the price 1/2 of what they paid for “Their” cigarettes ug…
OK, I’ll throw one out here for ya. I’ve still got a P38
You do, Norske! I count on it.
I kept one on my keyring for years. Handy little things.
guilty
I break it out occasionally when the “easy open” cans wind up breaking the pull thingie – it’s easier than trying to use a full size opener.
Citizen darkine01:
A P-38???!!! My God, that’d be good fer pickin’ yer toenails if ya got any left…LOL…Holy shit a fuckin’ P-38…ah fer the full bodied flavor of those Peaches after a couple a hits of Mama san’s good stuff.
Well, Jane is absolutely right that it’s scare tactics by the likes of Sallie Mae.
And even student-loan-processing companies are saying that the work of making the loan and collecting the payments will still be there. It’s not like social security, where the collection is spread out over millions of businesses and the money just dispursed from one Department. The whole loan and collection cycle still needs people. Just the money is clearly coming from the government, rather than it showing up in the dark behind some “private enterprise” company.
What the Money Boys (and Girls like Gorelick) are fighting about is the 40-year-old sweet deal. The “student lender” can make a damn-near risk free loan at an incredible markup.
All this talk about using that money for added services is highly insulting–it’s B.S. No other lending deal in the American economy comes with an added markup for “education and support”. Lord knows, the major financial players like Lehman could have used some “education and support” training when they were borrowing from their stiffed creditors. (Citibank, AIG etc.)
Time to knock off the nonsense and silly catastrophizing and pass SAFRA.
Keep one on my keychain right next to the ol dogtag.
I always have said I’ll take no shit from anyone on the lake but the person that runs this operation. When she jumps my ass I must be veerin off course.
Even if true, why should students have to support 35,000 jobs? Those jobs should be supported by the private sector.
Any isolated claims about employment changes due to changes in government programs need to be viewed skeptically. There are nearly always countervailing employment changes that these claims don’t address.
Frankly, given the billions in no-risk profits this industry makes from government-guaranteed student loans, the lost jobs are a trifle compared to the cost. Keeping them is not sufficient reason to make taxpayers pay this cost. Nor is it worthwhile to forego the loans that could be made if that cost did not have to be paid.
The “lost jobs” meme is a standard emotional argument from the “business development” industry. Inflated numbers are the norm, as is over-promising new jobs in exchange for renewed or expanded government subsidies. There’s never a consequence to getting it wrong, only a consequence for not getting the business.
Another standard argument in the protective business that is big company HR is to decry a former employee as “disgruntled and alienated”. Everybody knows someone like that at work, or used to, and they automatically dump the target into their known pigeon hole, even if they know the characterization isn’t true. For the employer, the characterization justifies both the target’s loss of employment – reinforcing management’s perspicacity – and discredits any criticism the target may level at their former bosses.
35,000 jobs doing absolutely nothing. Zero productivity.
Even if the number was right, those people are zero productivity middlemen. And it’ll cost us less to just cut them unemployment checks until they can find productive employment.
We should stop arresting armed robbers. We’re interfering with their jobs and overall economic recovery.