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	<title>Comments on: If Private Health Insurance Companies Are Evil, Why Are You Forcing Me to Be a Customer?</title>
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		<title>By: seaglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>seaglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hated Nixon, but he said one thing I&#039;ve always honored. In his first Presidential acceptance speech he told us in not so many words to ignore his words and instead watch his actions. I&#039;ve made that a rule every since and not just for pols but for people in general and you&#039;d be astonished at how common place the disconnect between what people say and what they do is. Obama thinks as do many Pols that he can say anything and that noone will then follow up to see if his words are followed by actions that fit them. Unfortunately, for him with modern communications and the Internet this is now possible 24/7. The glaring disconnect of what this man is saying and what he is doing has already destroyed his credibility among many of us. I don&#039;t think he cares nor do I think does the rest of the villagers as we now call them. Why? because these are people who don&#039;t believe as some of us do that a person after all is really ONLY as good as his or her word. The simple truth is Obama and most of the rest of the political class out here today are people without honor or as the Orientals call it FACE. They think politics is a game where if they can fool you and get away with it they win. They also think that they can say anything if it serves their purposes and that after saying it nobody really cares if its even remotely connected to what they actually then do. Obama is a man with no honor and amazingly it appears as much as I hated everything GW BV$H stood for he was a man of honor atleast in that sense as was Hitler. So being a man of honor doesn&#039;t have to mean your a good man or a bad man its just an affirmation that what you say and do jibe for the most part. Whats causing so many of us to drop our support for Obama and his regime is that we realize he in fact is a man with NO honor whats so ever so far. That he has absolutely no problem lying to our faces about what he is really going to do on any subject or policy and this is most disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hated Nixon, but he said one thing I&#8217;ve always honored. In his first Presidential acceptance speech he told us in not so many words to ignore his words and instead watch his actions. I&#8217;ve made that a rule every since and not just for pols but for people in general and you&#8217;d be astonished at how common place the disconnect between what people say and what they do is. Obama thinks as do many Pols that he can say anything and that noone will then follow up to see if his words are followed by actions that fit them. Unfortunately, for him with modern communications and the Internet this is now possible 24/7. The glaring disconnect of what this man is saying and what he is doing has already destroyed his credibility among many of us. I don&#8217;t think he cares nor do I think does the rest of the villagers as we now call them. Why? because these are people who don&#8217;t believe as some of us do that a person after all is really ONLY as good as his or her word. The simple truth is Obama and most of the rest of the political class out here today are people without honor or as the Orientals call it FACE. They think politics is a game where if they can fool you and get away with it they win. They also think that they can say anything if it serves their purposes and that after saying it nobody really cares if its even remotely connected to what they actually then do. Obama is a man with no honor and amazingly it appears as much as I hated everything GW BV$H stood for he was a man of honor atleast in that sense as was Hitler. So being a man of honor doesn&#8217;t have to mean your a good man or a bad man its just an affirmation that what you say and do jibe for the most part. Whats causing so many of us to drop our support for Obama and his regime is that we realize he in fact is a man with NO honor whats so ever so far. That he has absolutely no problem lying to our faces about what he is really going to do on any subject or policy and this is most disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: quidditas</title>
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		<dc:creator>quidditas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jon, I appreciate the sentiment but the reality is if this fails we are probably looking at President Palin in 2012. Are you sure you want that?&quot;

ooga booga. More likely it&#039;s His Royal Highness, Permanent Mayor Bloomberg that&#039;s been tapped to front the fascism properly in 2012. 

It&#039;s so necessary to pass the Rahmbama Bill because it will virtually guarantee His Royal Highness&#039;s succession.

If you think about it, you&#039;ll see the merits of this theory. You&#039;ll also see where we&#039;re headed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jon, I appreciate the sentiment but the reality is if this fails we are probably looking at President Palin in 2012. Are you sure you want that?&#8221;</p>
<p>ooga booga. More likely it&#8217;s His Royal Highness, Permanent Mayor Bloomberg that&#8217;s been tapped to front the fascism properly in 2012. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so necessary to pass the Rahmbama Bill because it will virtually guarantee His Royal Highness&#8217;s succession.</p>
<p>If you think about it, you&#8217;ll see the merits of this theory. You&#8217;ll also see where we&#8217;re headed.</p>
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		<title>By: quidditas</title>
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		<dc:creator>quidditas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;…will doom the democratic party for a generation. It will make “liberalism” equivalent to making you buy a product that you can’t afford, enforced by the IRS, not a popular governmental body. Its a Republican wetdream, if they’re capable of running an anti corporatist/fascist attack…I’m doubtful that they can or that they would ever want to.&quot;

That&#039;s the beauty of this plan. Republicans do not have to run an anti-corporate campaign vs. the D-Party. They can run an anti-GOVERNMENT campaign.

And, because the government IS the oppressive totalitarian agency enforcing the plan, it will be impossible for D-Party shills to tar everyone with the anti-government &quot;tea bagger&quot; label without looking like oppressive totalitarians themselves.

And is that not, in fact, the way that everyone looking for a BETTER reform experiences the Party shills--and &quot;the government&quot;--right now? 

If this Bill goes through, it is going to change the political dynamics and people who look to shelter the population from the pernicious one-party fascist state are going to develop new arguments and alliances.

The old storyline about the nice, pro-publica, good government liberal D-Party is played out. 

I say let the Republicans F- &#039;em. They earned it.
  
You need a new party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;…will doom the democratic party for a generation. It will make “liberalism” equivalent to making you buy a product that you can’t afford, enforced by the IRS, not a popular governmental body. Its a Republican wetdream, if they’re capable of running an anti corporatist/fascist attack…I’m doubtful that they can or that they would ever want to.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the beauty of this plan. Republicans do not have to run an anti-corporate campaign vs. the D-Party. They can run an anti-GOVERNMENT campaign.</p>
<p>And, because the government IS the oppressive totalitarian agency enforcing the plan, it will be impossible for D-Party shills to tar everyone with the anti-government &#8220;tea bagger&#8221; label without looking like oppressive totalitarians themselves.</p>
<p>And is that not, in fact, the way that everyone looking for a BETTER reform experiences the Party shills&#8211;and &#8220;the government&#8221;&#8211;right now? </p>
<p>If this Bill goes through, it is going to change the political dynamics and people who look to shelter the population from the pernicious one-party fascist state are going to develop new arguments and alliances.</p>
<p>The old storyline about the nice, pro-publica, good government liberal D-Party is played out. </p>
<p>I say let the Republicans F- &#8216;em. They earned it.</p>
<p>You need a new party.</p>
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		<title>By: cate</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/03/09/if-private-health-insurance-companies-are-evil-why-are-you-forcing-me-to-be-a-customer/#comment-93359</link>
		<dc:creator>cate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. I think the bill is much too flawed and pro-industry to be &quot;fixed.&quot;  I admire Dennis Kucinich for his courage and sent him an e-mail yesterday. I do fear for those Americans who are not well off and will suffer from this wasted opportunity re health-care, jobs, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. I think the bill is much too flawed and pro-industry to be &#8220;fixed.&#8221;  I admire Dennis Kucinich for his courage and sent him an e-mail yesterday. I do fear for those Americans who are not well off and will suffer from this wasted opportunity re health-care, jobs, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: janerules</title>
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		<dc:creator>janerules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep fighting the good fight Jane. You know your right when Marco&#039;s the insider is fighting for a bad bill. The only problem is that Marco&#039;s and the Washington crew won&#039;t being dealing with the level of hurt that most American&#039;s will. They&#039;re screwing the middle class again for a bad bill that is promised to be made better at a later (it&#039;ll never happen) time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep fighting the good fight Jane. You know your right when Marco&#8217;s the insider is fighting for a bad bill. The only problem is that Marco&#8217;s and the Washington crew won&#8217;t being dealing with the level of hurt that most American&#8217;s will. They&#8217;re screwing the middle class again for a bad bill that is promised to be made better at a later (it&#8217;ll never happen) time.</p>
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		<title>By: jodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s typical of Obama. He tries to score political points and votes with his rhetoric, but it has no bearing on what he actually does. It&#039;s how he got elected. I don&#039;t understand how he has any credibility by now. 2012 will be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s typical of Obama. He tries to score political points and votes with his rhetoric, but it has no bearing on what he actually does. It&#8217;s how he got elected. I don&#8217;t understand how he has any credibility by now. 2012 will be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: morris1030</title>
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		<dc:creator>morris1030</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are gullible and we do not protest meaningfull en masse.

We want it done for us, but we must change it. Either a third party or elect decent dems if there&#039;s anything left of the party after this fiasco and Obama&#039;s defection.

We are living in a hype of illusion and lies and hold these bastards to task at the ballot box. Team Obama is corrupt Chicago politics of yore and seeing it in full bloom is the most desructive imaginable for Dems in the future.  People are suffering through this tone deaf administration because there is actually nothing in it for the WHouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are gullible and we do not protest meaningfull en masse.</p>
<p>We want it done for us, but we must change it. Either a third party or elect decent dems if there&#8217;s anything left of the party after this fiasco and Obama&#8217;s defection.</p>
<p>We are living in a hype of illusion and lies and hold these bastards to task at the ballot box. Team Obama is corrupt Chicago politics of yore and seeing it in full bloom is the most desructive imaginable for Dems in the future.  People are suffering through this tone deaf administration because there is actually nothing in it for the WHouse.</p>
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		<title>By: morris1030</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/03/09/if-private-health-insurance-companies-are-evil-why-are-you-forcing-me-to-be-a-customer/#comment-93355</link>
		<dc:creator>morris1030</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: morris1030</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/03/09/if-private-health-insurance-companies-are-evil-why-are-you-forcing-me-to-be-a-customer/#comment-93354</link>
		<dc:creator>morris1030</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt that Obama is better than Hillary but it no longer matters. He&#039;s a terrible president who has left behind any principles if he even had them in the first place.

Obama will sink the Democrats for many years. he&#039;s lied, he&#039;s dealt in the backrooms with the corporate lobbyists, he&#039;s been silent and inarticulate for a year hoping to ram this through without too much explanation.

But without real leadership and courage the Democrats dissolved into chaos and infighting,confusion,bribery, and corruption coupled with no rudimentary sophistaction of mastering parlimentary bargaining produced wht current situation.

Obama tells us how evil the Insurance companies are yet he wants to deliver us right straight to them.  People are catching on. go to the Sunlight Foundation on the web for some eye openers the press has not covered. You know, access.

This will be the year rememered as the one that blew the Democrats out of the majority for a long time.  The fools cannot govern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that Obama is better than Hillary but it no longer matters. He&#8217;s a terrible president who has left behind any principles if he even had them in the first place.</p>
<p>Obama will sink the Democrats for many years. he&#8217;s lied, he&#8217;s dealt in the backrooms with the corporate lobbyists, he&#8217;s been silent and inarticulate for a year hoping to ram this through without too much explanation.</p>
<p>But without real leadership and courage the Democrats dissolved into chaos and infighting,confusion,bribery, and corruption coupled with no rudimentary sophistaction of mastering parlimentary bargaining produced wht current situation.</p>
<p>Obama tells us how evil the Insurance companies are yet he wants to deliver us right straight to them.  People are catching on. go to the Sunlight Foundation on the web for some eye openers the press has not covered. You know, access.</p>
<p>This will be the year rememered as the one that blew the Democrats out of the majority for a long time.  The fools cannot govern.</p>
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		<title>By: morris1030</title>
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		<dc:creator>morris1030</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a Conservadem.  He will be sent packing. His lack of leadership and devious deals with corporate insurers and PHarma are disgraceful.

Obama wants to be re-elected on your back.  Money? Insurance,drug,and Wall St money for re-election.

Obama has squandered an opportunity with a hue mandate and political capital now gone. A wasted year in the middle of economic crisis and pain and this tone deaf man mismanaged and sold out. Leadership? None in the vacuum we watched congress until we cringed.

I am still cringing over the lost opportunities and broken promises.
Obama was selling illusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a Conservadem.  He will be sent packing. His lack of leadership and devious deals with corporate insurers and PHarma are disgraceful.</p>
<p>Obama wants to be re-elected on your back.  Money? Insurance,drug,and Wall St money for re-election.</p>
<p>Obama has squandered an opportunity with a hue mandate and political capital now gone. A wasted year in the middle of economic crisis and pain and this tone deaf man mismanaged and sold out. Leadership? None in the vacuum we watched congress until we cringed.</p>
<p>I am still cringing over the lost opportunities and broken promises.<br />
Obama was selling illusion.</p>
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