Ben Nelson (D-NE), living up to his role as the great defender of the health insurance industry, is now leading the fight against the new Health Insurance Rating Authority that Obama proposed as part of his health care reform package (PDF). From Politico:
Nelson quietly urged Democratic leaders to reject Feinstein’s effort to include in the Senate health care bill a proposal empowering federal authorities to block high rate increases by health insurers, POLITICO has learned. And that irked Feinstein, who swallowed her pride and voted for the Senate bill even though she felt it shortchanged her state of California in some areas.
While I might be mistaken, from my studies of reconciliation and the Byrd rule, I’ve believe that this new Health Insurance Rating Authority would violate the Byrd rule because it is unlikely to be seen as affecting the budget.
If that is the case, having it survive in any reconciliation bill it would either require some hardball from Joe Biden or a vote of 60 senators to waive the Byrd rule. If Ben Nelson is a “no,” it is hard to imagine two Republican senators voting to protect the new federal agency.
Nelson’s opposition to the idea re-enforces my belief that Obama added it to his proposal for cynical political (and not policy) reasons. Knowing that it would never become law, the president surmised that the proposal would force Republicans to take a potentially difficult vote, but its likely exclusion from budget reconciliation would ensure that private health insurance companies were spared oversight by a new agency. If Obama is serious about keeping the insurance industry honest, he would push for mechanisms that would not violate the Byrd rule, ones that could pass with a simple majority as part of reconciliation, like a public option or Medicare buy-in.




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I agree that regulation may not survive Byrd rule – but Byrd has been ignored for regulation type stuff in the past, so it is really up to the Senators. Plus cover can come from CBO evaluating a savings to current gov programs from the tie in of the Senate subsidy for the poor in the current Senate bill as a percentage of the charged premium. Lower premiums lowers subsidy and thereby passes Byrd rule.
Perhaps the next time that Rep. Anthony Weiner is calling out the insurance industry owned GOP, he could focus some of his finely-honed rhetoric on democrats like Nelson who are owned just as blatantly as any on the other side of the aisle.
Democrats that are bought outright by the insurance industry, let’s call them Blue
DogCross Democrats, are more to blame for screwing up the HCR bill than all of the Congressional GOP combined. It’s time they had a spotlight on them.for a decent public option based on medicare, why not advocate for stark’s hr 193? is there anything about it which would run afoul with the byrd rule?
(medicare buy is stupid policy and a puny po as useless or worse).
Traitor
Has this guy ever worked for the American people
“If Obama is serious about keeping the insurance industry honest” ; you got to be joking.
Obama = scumbag. Yup.
I would be very pleased if fdl had a shitlist we could put Nelson and others on for mockery and primaring, crowd sourced accountablilty and oppo. A stick to go with the carrot of the firedogs thing Barney Frank is on.
So why does this asshole still have a chairmanship? Why will he get anything he wants for the remainder of his term? Oh, because he’s just the foil for the rest of them, I forgot.
Obama = scumbag. Yup? Maybe you should have voted for the smelly old man and the moronic grifter. I don’t visit firedog the way I used to because you folks have really gone full on firebagger. Norquist was really the last straw for me but, I do have a suggestion for Dems. Perhaps the rest of Nelson’s colleagues, you know, Democratic Senators should get up in his fucked up beek nosed face and tell this bastard that he, Landrieu, Lincoln, and Liberman fucked up this bill from the start. Then tell him that he should probably keep a low profile or risk being exposed by his colleagues for trying to block this at a time when insurance companies are raising rates. He’ll be an army of one in this fight. So long children!
Don’t get your feelins hurt, it’s nothing to do with you. Peace.
: )
So long children!
Bye, bye, Rahm.
I love it! The Blue Cross Democrats.
AS much as Ben Nelson is a steaming pile, he is right here on this one. There is no need for this authority or agency. This is a poor excuse for passing laws and enacting regulations, WHICH IN CASE YOU HAVEN’T NOTICED, THIS ADMINISTRATION AND LEGISLATORS ARE TOTALLY UNABLE TO ENACT REFORM LEGISLATION OF ANY KIND. Doing that won’t cost big $$$. These worthless agencies do.
And, this is exactly the type of thing that worries people about “death panels”. The other day, a lawmaker, don’t know which side or who, mentioned that one of the ways they will be saving money is to have a “Health Coordinator” review all the decisions a patient’s various doctors have made. Especially the elderly. If this doesn’t scare the crap out of you, then you really have drunk all the kool aid necessary to have checked out.
I realize this is already being done by insurance companies, but here we have another instance where Obama is taking the worst of the industry and making it government law, punishable by fines, or death, if the “coordinators” who are not doctors, make the wrong decision. Now it will be the government doing it to you.
It all stinks and it is so dishonest, from beginning to end. Obama is becoming a much more dangerous person that I had imagined. A combination of old ideas, ignorance of the now, and the pompousness of Bush to not question himself. Great.
OK, you have swallowed the death panels thing? Again?
Really? I mean really?
GULP!
Jim White’s diary is front-paged!
Washington Post Op-Ed Skews Math to Smear Green Jobs
Wow! What a fucking surprise!
Wow! it’s exactly what came to mind when I saw Weiner lambasting the GOP.
Now if we can get the Dem media elites on MSNBC to do some equal opportunity lambasting,just maybe……our country is headed in the right direction……well it won’t happen,but it’s nice to dream sometimes.
Sorry Jon, another “if this therefore because of this” non sequiter. Reasonable hypothesis but not a logical conclusion. I think what I find most irritating is the certainty with which you make your conclusions, when there is no certainty at all.
dakine01′s diary is front-paged!
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The Dems. have choose which masters they will serve its either the people or the Corps. They can’t serve both.
Even the mods do it.
Curses to MTV…
Ii’s just such a misanthropic thing to say. (Scumbag – wow – a model father a scumbag) Progressives do not deserve power and influence in the US if they do not bring the love.
Undeniably…
All i want is the medicare buy-in at 55 added to the bill. That would lower cost and survive the Byrd rule. Fuck you very much Senator Lieberman!
Obama has become the most disingenuous and manipulative President in recent memory. Questioning his motives for anything he says or does is more than appropriate.
Did you hear ANYTHING about what I said? ANYTHING AT ALL? What about the review panels above doctors? That doesn’t bother you? You seriously don’t mind a government operative with about as much intelligence as an IRS agent saying you can’t have the treatment your doctor prescribed? IN ORDER TO SAVE MONEY? You hate it being done by insurance companies but its ok for the Hoaxer-in-Chief? You seriously think that is just fine? This is about converting EVERY insurance policy to an HMO policy. Wow. I guess you really did drink the koolaid.
[Modnote; please don't yell]
In my humble opinion, we all need to join together and file a lawsuit against the Senate of the US for failure to do the people’s business. All of these bills that have been proposed and passed by our House of Representatives are now sitting in a pile because Harry Reid will not pursue alternative rules to get a vote. Some say we voters can just vote them out…The trouble is , they do not all come up for re-election at thesame time. The Senate is not representing the people of America, they are looking out for their own pocketbooks.
To TropicGirl and all the other whackos out there. There is no panel going to come between you and your doctor with this bill any more than your insurance company gets between you and your doctor now. Just try to get cancer treatment if you had acne as a child.(just an example). Besides, with a name like that she could go to any number of tropic nations and get excellent health care insurance for about $400 PER YEAR.
I dont know about any of you guys, but Im starting to get the impression that all this stalling and dead end voting that our party is doing in concern of the Healthcare bill is somehow just an exit strategy. I mean think about it for a moment. November elections are now approaching rapidly, Incumbents must start campaigning very soon or risk losing their seat. Now there is only two stradegies they can use to win their re-election,
1. Pass some meaningful legislation such ass:
The HealthCare Bill
Repeal DADT
ect.
2. Force Rethugs Hand and make them out to be the obstructists of the entire process. Blaming them solelyfor a failed healthcare bill, at the same time continuing to lead us on by making us think that they will continue to fight for our cause.
I think it is more #2, Why else would that pass the ball to Obama and then show such weakness throughout the 6 hour meeting of bipartisanship recently televised on CSPAN? My first and foremost impression was that they are looking for a way out from beneath the unpopular healthcare debate and looking more towards the 2010 elections.
I honestly believe this is all just a charade, they are playing us like a fiddle to secure our vote. They have no intention of passing HealthCare this year.
Sorry for all the typos in my post above, but the issues just make me so darn angry at our parties willingness to kick us or anyone under the bus when their re-election is at stake !