One sure sign that the Senate health care bill is dead as a doornail is the inevitable appearance of the anonymously-sourced, finger-pointing articles. And in a novel twist, we have one blaming Rahm for the failure to pass health care reform that appears to be written by Rahm:
The emerging consensus among critics in both chambers is that Emanuel’s lack of Senate experience slowed President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.
Lack of experience — rather than being a corporatist hack who negotiated the PhRMA deal right out of the gate, which compromised not only the ability to control health care costs, but poisoned public trust once word got out.
[O]n Capitol Hill he’s under fire for poor execution of the president’s healthcare agenda in the Senate.
“I think Rahm ran the play his boss called; once Obama called the play, Rahm did everything he could to pass it, scorched-earth and all that,” said a senior lawmaker, who added that Emanuel didn’t seek a broader base of Senate Republicans. “I think he did miscalculate the Senate. He did what he thought he had to do to win.”
One stenographer journalist after another told us that the White House was letting Congress take the lead on health care, and the administration was sitting by with its thumb in its mouth until a bill arrived on the President’s desk. Well, I guess that particular fiction is finally dead now that the blame game is in full swing.
No Democrat is calling for Emanuel’s resignation, even privately, and they acknowledge his hard work and straightforward approach in a very tough job.
Rahm’s a hard working guy. Nothing he needs to resign over. . .
The lawmaker said Emanuel misjudged the Senate by focusing on only a few Republicans, citing Maine Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins as too narrow a pool.
Yes, because over and over again, Mitch McConnell and George Bush jammed through their legislation by courting Democrats and tailoring their legislation to their fine sensibilities. So now, the answer is to be nicer to Republicans, just like they’ve been saying all along.
Hello, McFly?
One senior Democratic senator said Emanuel was initially reluctant to push healthcare reform so early in Obama’s first term, counseling instead for the president to focus on jobs and the economy.
But the president decided healthcare had to pass when he had a strong political mandate and the party controlled large majorities in both chambers.
Yes, poor Rahm. Just because he’s been giving one vanity interview after another to the New York Times taking credit for running the health care show out of his office, now he was only reluctantly doing what the President wanted.
The senator said that Emanuel allowed White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, who had worked 15 years for Baucus, to take more of a lead in the upper chamber. The lawmaker said that was a mistake that allowed Baucus more time than necessary to negotiate with Republicans.
Blame Baucus and Messina! Well, you could see that one coming down Sepulveda when the PhRMA deal was leaked.
Emanuel declined to be interviewed for this article.
Really. So, did he farm it out, or was it one of those famous “off the record” conversations?



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Nothing like starting the blame game early
He needs to buy a truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQcJ9tPvy
Dammed by faint praise?
Typically led by “He has my full support….”
Thank Goddess I didn’t vote for this disaster.
this and the sepulveda link: that is a hell of a hide-the-blame laundry they have going on at the WH.
laundering the negotiations through a senate office to deflect corrupt deals? it is almost as if they think we are blind to the games they play or that a secret stays a secret in DC.
what did that guy say in the 40s?
the buck stops [over t]here.
Canada is looking better all the time. Anybody want to go? Besides, who is our real president anyway? Rahm or Obama?
As you say, Jane. This one’s dead as a mackeral. And should be.
NOW! We have a ready-made fight for him…the health insurance robber baron’s anti-trust exemption!
I’d bet the percent of voters who would support stripping that is in the 90% range. All the dems have to do is put it on the floor and dare the republicans to filibuster. It’s a “can’t lose” deal.
Will it happen? I ain’t holdin’ my breath. And I haven’t heard a syllable about it from Obama, by way of setting the table for doing it.
If he doesn’t, it will be the deal-breaker for my little two cents worth of support. If they duck this one, he and the “leadership” can go shit in their hats.
Why do we care? Why is it good for Democrats to attack the only Democratic administration we have when the Soviet-style block voting of Republicans and traditional back-stabbing corporate behavior of “moderate” Democratic Senators have been the biggest impediments to serious change? If Congress were pushing public option and Rahm were leading the administration to block it, your arguments would make some sense. But the Democratic Caucus in the US Senate has demonstrated for Obama the same thing that it showed Clinton and Carter – an allegiance to corporate funders and the Club that outweighs party loyalty or any pretense of supporting the platform of the Democratic party, not to mention the interests of the public.
When you focus on attacking the administration, you simply play into the Republican game which, as was predicted on November 6, has been to defeat the President even if it brings down the nation.
I don’t see any positive outcome from your vendetta against Emmanuel, who is, after all, an employee carrying out the policy decisions of his boss.
N.Y. Times, August 15, 2009:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/us/politics/16emanuel.html
Three more years of Rahm’s fingers in every decision and the Obama administration will be a complete joke.
Ok, so if the WH had only tried to be more bipartisan…
…but given that bipartisanship less time to work, Healthcare Reform would have been a success?
Are they that f’ing clueless?!?
Rahm’s hit list
Howard Dean
Greg Craig
The rule of Law
Accountability
Dept of Justice… AG Eric Holder
Real Health Care Reform
“Emanuel viewed many of the legal problems that Craig and Holder were immersed in as distractions. “When Guantánamo walked in the door, Rahm walked out,” the informed source said. Holder and Emanuel had been collegial since their Clinton Administration days. Holder’s wife, Sharon Malone, an obstetrician, had delivered one of Emanuel’s children. But Emanuel adamantly opposed a number of Holder’s decisions, including one that widened the scope of a special counsel who had begun investigating the C.I.A.’s interrogation program. Bush had appointed the special counsel, John Durham, to assess whether the C.I.A. had obstructed justice when it destroyed videotapes documenting waterboarding sessions. Holder authorized Durham to determine whether the agency’s abuse of detainees had itself violated laws. Emanuel worried that such investigations would alienate the intelligence community. But Holder, who had studied law at Columbia with Telford Taylor, the chief American prosecutor in the Nuremberg trials, was profoundly upset after seeing classified documents explicitly describing C.I.A. prisoner abuse. The United Nations Convention Against Torture requires the U.S. to investigate credible torture allegations. Holder felt that, as the top law-enforcement officer in the U.S., he had to do something.
Emanuel couldn’t complain directly to Holder without violating strictures against political interference in prosecutorial decisions. But he conveyed his unhappiness to Holder indirectly, two sources said. Emanuel demanded, “Didn’t he get the memo that we’re not re-litigating the past?”
Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/02/15/100215fa_fact_mayer#ixzz0f3WB9DlR
Emmanuel “DIDN’T HE (HOLDER) GET THE MEMO THAT WE’RE NOT RE-LITIGATING THE PAST?”
Maybe I missed it. When have the Dems or anyone litigated? Well except for the blowjobs 12 years ago
Rahm is Obama’s blankie.
I think Rahm ran the play his boss called; once Obama called the play, Rahm did everything he could to pass it, scorched-earth and all that,” said a senior lawmaker, who added that Emanuel didn’t seek a broader base of Senate Republicans.
“I think he did miscalculate the Senate. He did what he thought he had to do to win.”
He did what he thought he had to do to win….the hearts and minds of the people??? If that had truly been his intent, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now. I can’t believe the Dems got themselves in this Quandry AGAIN! Somebody queue in, John Stewart so he can rip, tear, shred, pulverize etc. Rahm.
It is the nature of convenient DC palace politics to defer the accurate scorekeeping as long as possible.
Funny fact — I did not vote for Rahm Emanuel. I voted for the guy he is CoS to — Barack Obama.
It is hardly any big surprise here in early Feb.2010 that this Obama WH was not credible or going with the deep validity of principle politics last spring of 2009 regarding HCR.
Single Payer got ditched fast and hard. Not allowed to the table.
Evidently AHIP and PhRMA were in on the HCR dealmaking and play calls.
By late summer anyone with mid range political sensors should have seen the Obama WH was doing the full kabuki on the so called public option idea and clearly was in cahoots with Baucus to do AHIP the big favors and put in the subsidies AHIP is after and ditch any public anything.
As noted above I voted for Barack Obama and do not care about Rahm Emanuel.
If Barack Obama is not able or is unwilling to get his WH figured out and do the right things that is his problem. And a problem it appears to have become.
He has been rolled on torture. Rolled on Israel. Rolled on Wall Street.
Clearly got rolled on HCR or whatever this AHIP slush funding by law is being called.
Time to fire some people? Sure. Who is the boss? That has become the big ?
Rahm may be Obama’s Rumsfeld.
lol!
Miscalculations were made…
By getting Rahm Out, which is probably a good idea, the President may get some good advice from a chief of staff that is more engaged with the people, instead of constantly miscalculating, misjudging, or misreading the tealeaves which has been the entire story of Rahm Emmanuel for the last 12 months. That, “Playing into the Repugs hand” crap is just an excuse to do NOTHING, and enable the administration to continue to misjudge, miscalculate, misread what the PEOPLE want.
Jane, you have been absolutely brilliant on HCR. All kudos to you.
This is why they couldn’t wait to get Scott Brown seated–so they could have a broader base of Republicans to have bi-partisanship with.
What a sad joke of an administration and Democratic leadership.
The cloak is off and the Democratic party–even if they turned things around today may have killed the brand.
What would have passed healthcare reform is if they had pushed for a good bill that cut costs and included the broadly popular public option. If they pushed that kind of legislation, pressured conservadems to support it, and dropped their silly efforts at bipartisanship after it became clear that R’s would obstruct as a political strategy, something decent could have passed.
If a layperson like yellowsnapdragon can figure that out, why can’t the brilliant, highly paid minds of the Democratic Leadership?
The Administration is working with a Senate “majority” that depends on Nelson, Lieberman, Bayh, and a host of other corporate hacks. When Chris Dodd, one of the better ones, is complaining about the Volker plan interfering with his “negotiations” with Shelby about how to water down the Elizabeth Warren plan, it’s hard to imagine how a personnel change at the WH can be expected to improve the operation of the Senate.
I totally agree with you.
Rahm is a dinosaur.
I’ll be back in the afternoon to see what happens.
President Barack Obama killed HCR by creating a ‘deficit of trust.’
“He has broken virtually every campaign promise he made concerning reform, presided over a series of shady back room deals, and treated the voters like an irritating group of poorly behaved and dull-witted children.”
“If you like your plan you can keep it” unless you have Medicare Advantage.
Barack Obama prominently opposed the mandate during the 2008 primaries. But when the campaign ended and he began looking to make health-care reform work, he changed his mind.
Running a series of campaign ads denouncing John McCain for proposing a tax on “Cadillac” plans, Obama after election, made it clear that he favored taxing “high-value” health benefits. Except for his union cronies.
Obama’s failure to honor his C-SPAN promise further eroded confidence in the plan.
Closed-door negotiations and assertions by Obama that he “didn’t make a bunch of deals” left many asking, “just how stupid does this guy think I am?”
The answer came soon enough in the SOTU speech where Obama patronizingly declared, “This is a complex issue… I take my share of the blame for not explaining it more clearly to the American people.” In other words, he didn’t speak slowly enough for all of us beyond the beltway to get it.
Lay the blame where it belongs…squarely at the feet of President Barack Obama.
Rahm is a made man with more power than any mob boss in history.
I’m not second-guessing Jane’s disgust with Rahm for one instant, but this bit:
could have been written by Liz Cheney, or Richard Shelby’s PR outfit.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, and Rahm doesn’t seem to have picked up on the ‘change’ vibe (as in, knock it off with the special sweetheart deals that actually end up making businesses LESS competitive, LESS competent, and LESS aligned with customer needs, you clowns in D.C.).
So yeah, Rahm needs to grasp the basic concept of ‘transparency’, but even despite all Rahm’s fumbling, the GOP has been irresponsible, and completely unreasonable. Rahm only seems to have made it worse, but I doubt that Mother Teresa or the Biblical Job could have dealt with the GOP Senate last year.
(And just for evidence on the sheer ineptitude of the GOP, take a look at Sen Jeff Sessions trying to call Mullen on the carpet last week over DADT, with Gates moving in to thwart Sessions’ stupidity. Or look at Shelby selling out US companies so that his Airbus patrons can steal a deal away from Boeing. Unbelievable.)
Being stuck with the GOP Senate obstruction is infuriating.
Rahm is the icing on the cake, but to allow the GOP to blame Rahm strikes me as complete nonsense. If the GOP Senators are willing to castigate Mullen at a public hearing, they’re hopeless.
Rahm must be their odd, distant cousin. Sheesh (!).
Rahm is quite the multi-tasker, rootless (one must be when “working” for a multi-dimensional chess-playing Constitutional scholar/politician), not only doing his master’s multi-level bidding, but also, putting the riff-raff in their “f**king” (how did he put it? Oh yes … “retards”) place …
You do not view an excessive (compulsive?) and “official” pattern of “bipartisanship” to be playing into the Repubs “hands” (written upon or not)?
Don’t you wish we’d all shut up and go away?
So does Rahm.
I wonder why?
DW
I love the way you think!
Uh..isn’t Dodd out in 2012? Dodd doesn’t need to get what he wants. Shelby was the one calling for the automakers to fail, Shelby was the one holding up 70 nominations. Shelby is a dirty rat who will have a heck of a time getting re-elected without some watered down Volcker bill. What I’m saying is screw Dodd and Shelby both. What about the Consumer Protection Bill you ask? Maybe with new blood in the Senate and a new CoS we may ACTUALLY get Consumer protections!! Not with these dinosaurs.
Your post about hiding the blame ,and another post elsewhere upthread referring to Rahm’s statement about not relitigating the past, brought this to mind,courtesy of Wikipedia:
Emanuel was named to the Board of Directors for the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (“Freddie Mac”) by then President Bill Clinton in 2000. His position earned him at least $320,000, including later stock sales.[31][32] He was not assigned to any of the board’s working committees, and the Board met no more than six times per year.[32]
During his time on the board, Freddie Mac was plagued with scandals involving campaign contributions and accounting irregularities.[32][33] The Obama Administration rejected a request under the Freedom of Information Act to review Freddie Mac board minutes and correspondence during Emanuel’s time as a director.[32]
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) later accused the board of having “failed in its duty to follow up on matters brought to its attention.” Emanuel resigned from the board in 2001 when he ran for Congress.[34]
Well put! Blaming the employees here is wrong. Obama is where this buck stops. He didn’t IMO want his signature on any of this if it failed.
When did 60 become the new majority?
We all agree Bush was an idiot, but he did know that 51 senate votes will get you a long way.
Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Bayh, Baucus, etc. are politician that will soon be joining the rest of unemployed america.
The White House Brain Trust and the lead Pom Pom girl Rahm Fuckustein Emmanuel have been left to do there thing by a President who has turned out to be a fool.
“President Barack Obama killed HCR by creating a ‘deficit of trust.’” Thank you!
Doing as much damage as he can before then.
NOT attacking these feckless assholes, as they sell us out, over and over again, is the height of “Let them keep doing it!” idiocy.
B or N or both. Short guys can be a problem.
What’s Dodd’s motive for doing all this stuff? I always thought he was a fairly good guy but now that he’s leaving, he’s really acting odd.
Too true. It’s the “Chicago Way”.
“No Democrat is calling for Emanuel’s resignation, even privately…”
Anyone believe that?
I’m a Democrat, and I’ve been calling for his resignation since the “f***ing retards” comment, along with a substantial chorus from the left and the blogosphere. I realize that I don’t count, but to suggest that “No Democrat whatsoever” wants him out is really hard to believe. They must mean “No Democrat in the White House…”
Poor little Congressional sheep… Waiting for their Executive Branch Daddy, and his sheep-herders Emanuel, Reid & Pelosi, to pull them off the cliff edge by the collar, before they can leap off as commanded. Impossible to defy Daddy, and safely detour toward greener pastures, it goes without saying, at least in what passes for our national media.
Who in the “House” or the “Senate” of the “Legislative Branch” of our government could possibly write a piece of legislation – or, perish the thought, hold hearings to ask everyday Americans on the frontlines what the best solutions might be beforehand – so long as the White House can’t be bothered with its own branch of government, and wants to run Congress instead as part of its perpetual campaign to (re)elect the President. Children, and sheep, and American federal legislators obediently await their orders, their independent thought and will gratefully suspended, in deference to The President Who Must Be Obeyed.
And all this time those unthinking Party sheep watched silently as the convenient lie they knew to be false was propagated and maintained – that Congress was creating and directing health care reform.
It’s bad enough that these Party caucuses full of sheep have allowed the separation of powers to be trampled in the name of Party. But now they won’t even honor the Party balance of power in Congress that the voters established in 2008 – you know, where the Democrats have a majority in committee, and on the floor, allowing them to out-vote Republican ideas. Can’t have that. Thus, “bipartisanship” must now take place outside the democratic process and structure of Congress, in order for the Republicans to have equal say with the Democrats, if not more, “Gang of Six”-style. So sayeth He Who Must Be Obeyed.
Here I thought it was just being liberally “polite”.
Maybe obsequious “polite-ness” IS idiocy?
WE have the definition for insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different ….. etc.
And, tanbark now defines “idiocy” as “doing … nothing”.
Works for me.
DW
Lining up his lobbying job, looks like.
He’s lining up his NEXT job after he’s out of the senate in 2012.
I challenge progressives to urge Obama to start over on HCR and pit comprehensive ‘single payer’ government run health care up against more incremental GOP proposals that seek to move us away from employer-based insurance to individual-based coverage.
Do we want to move in favor of more government control, or less?
Give the American people a clear choice, not the compromised, corrupted bill we have now.
My favorite part:
Um, Rahm, that didn’t seem to be a problem for the last Administration you helped run (into the ground):
Reader of tea leaves; thanks. :o)
At this point, I think it’s become simplified:
Any legislation that would garner enough republican support to pass isn’t worth having.
And, daring the asshats to filibuster, is the best weapon that Obama has. In fact, it’s about the ONLY one he has left. And if he’s going to do that, he might as well make the bills of some progressive substance, instead of the piss-thin bipartisan gruel that he’s been trying to cozen the repubs into supporting.
Lastly, the american votes do NOT like preznints who look like wimps. You can be as dumb as a brick (which George Bush was…) and you can be as wrong as two left feet in your policy-making (which he also, was…) but you better look forceful while you’re doing it; and he was that, too, to just enough people to get him the white house…twice.
Right now, Barack Obama looks like a duck with one leg, and we haven’t even hit the mid-term wall yet. If he was cutting deals with Humana and Pfizer and Lilly, etcetera, when he had some of the biggest congressional majorities since FDR, what’s he going to do when his margins are razor-thin or non-existent?
Heads up, Mr. Preznint:
“Vote for us; we’re not as bad as republicans!”…
…is going to get your political ass kicked so hard you’ll have to take off your shirt to shit.
…or no Democrat in position of leadership.
Well that is his “reward” for his ill-paid “social service” on our behalf …
It’s as “American” as apple-pie.
Dodd doesn’t reach even to his Daddy’s shins … such a shame.
Please explain who in the Senate was expected to vote for a public option and did not do so, starting with the period of January 2009.
I think what gives this away is this line from the piece, buried near the bottom:
one must question the admin’s definition of “reform” when they worked hand-in-hand with PhRMA, and AHIP to help steer the proposed “reform” measures at the start of this process.
the dem ldrshp needs to decide to whom they owe allegiance in the battle for HCR: to the base/voters, or to their sugar-daddies in the health-profiteering industry. by the looks of the HCR debates, i think its pretty easy to see who the dems ldrshp most values. not us.
If this article was directed by Mr. Emanuel then it should be cause for concern for the President, because it sacrifices the President’s reputation for no other reason than to polish Mr. Emanuel’s. By asserting that it was the President’s play (which we all knew anyway), he makes the President look weak. A Chief of Staff worth their salt would take all the flack. That’s their job. But more disturbingly, the second claim that actually Mr. Emanuel wanted to focus on jobs and the economy, but the President overrode him, is not only disingenuous at best, but is even more undermining to the president, because it paints him as out of touch. It tries to create the illusion that only now is the administration taking Mr. Emanuel’s advice by focusing on jobs and the economy. This serves nobody but Mr. Emanuel. It doesn’t serve the president and it doesn’t serve the country. It’s myth-making worthy of Machiavelli. The President would be well advised to cut such a personality loose, unless he likes being undermined.
Actually, in reality the big losers in this scenario would probably be the Dems. They would end up with NO financial support from the insurance industry who would double their support for the Reps. And the 1% of people who actually pay attention and would see this as a good thing, would be swamped by the 99% who would see the TV ads paid for by the insurance companies.
You mean the GOP proposal to eliminate Medicare?
Remember how you Republicans were planning to campaign on the Dems’ allegedly cutting Medicare Advantage? Well, now you want to kill all of Medicare outright! So much for your bamboozling seniors!
That’s a Q for Jane, not me. I can’t get into the weeds on this for two reasons. 1. I don’t know enough about politics. 2. I’ve been watching the U.S. economy commit slomo suicide over medical costs since 1991, and it makes me heartsick even watching what’s going on in D.C. from afar.
Samuel Clemon’s while traveling in Europe read news accounts indicating he had died. He responded with a telegram to the Associated Press that read: “Reports of my death have been greatly exagerated.”
It might be a bit premature to begin the autopsy.
Personally I don’t believe the Senate bill is dead at all but that Rahmbama are just waiting for the right moment to shove it down the House’s gullet.
Hopefully I’m wrong.
Fix it or kill it…
I knew from the beginning Rahm Emanuel was a demon whispering in the ear of Obama. Huffington Post even had a freaking picture of it when Obama was running and I knew it was trouble. I wish I could find that picture because it says it all.
The man is a whore to business and he is known for it with anyone who watches what is going on. It was no news he would sell his own grandmother for a buck (literally with the pharma giveaway he negotiated), This is why he was a bad choice for “change” by putting him in the position of power he holds.
Never liked the man and never will trust him. Period.
Cat In Seattle
Rahm’s own hand-picked replacement at the DCCC, Chris Van Hollen, has said that not only did the current Senate bill kill Martha Coakley’s campaign, it’s also hurting other Democrats in the House and Senate. When Rahm’s own bobo says that this thing, Rahm’s baby, is a radioactive crock of crap, you know it’s in trouble.
The Senate bill as it currently stands is electoral death to anyone who backs it.
Of course, another way to read what Jane presents here is that they’re laying the groundwork for the consensus that will start to emerge moving toward the Feb 25 meeting and that will suddenly materialize in the aftermath of that meeting.
I don’t think the Senate bill is dead at all. I keep hearing references to the Democrats going into that Feb 25 meeting with the Senate bill plus “fixes” in hand. The idea seems to be to “fix” it some more by letting Republicans have at it.
In the end, this isn’t about a Republican “win” or a Democratic “win.” It’s about a “win” for corporate supremacy.
Obviously, there were missteps in the partisan kabuki, jeopardizing the gifts and giveaways to insurers and pharmaceuticals. Now the corporate masters want their bought-and-paid-for puppets – the corporatists in both parties – to work together to fix it so the taxpayers can get fucked over in the name of
fixing our health care systemshifting our money into corporate pockets.What part of saying “f#ck#ng r#t#rds” as way to blame your supporters for not being psychic doesn’t get through to these people? His boss should have already, at a minimum, taken him to the proverbial woodshed publicly.
In order to determine whether Rahm Emanuel failed in any way we would need to know what parts of the approach were his alone. I doubt using Gruber to define bending the curve was only Rahm’s decision and getting rid of him is unlikely to lead to significant changes. Necessary but not sufficient.
Do you have confidence that the Ds won’t continue to commit suicide by stages?
in technical terms we don’t have an elected president. Just a front for Rahm and the other MIC cronies still running our country. His appointment stunk on day 1 and it stinks even more today. Firing Rahm will immediately change this presidency. And to hell with the “stenographers” who call themselves journalists! Great post…
Obama’s Cheney.
Obama may get “cheney’d” by Rahm
“With a penchant for networking and making deals – honed during a stint at Wasserstein Perella (which netted him more than $18 million in just over two years) – Emanuel has put the party’s House campaign coffers on a par with the Republicans’ for the first time in years.”
http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/06/news/newsmakers/emanuel_easton.fortune/?postversion=2008110613
OT
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Your opinion may be very accurate.
Feb 25, 2010 may go down in history as the day, american wake up and realize that their Govt has been Hijack by the Corporate Elites. (A lot of us already know that the USA Govt. has been taken over by the Corp Elites)
ON 2-25-2010, we all get to witness, how a Govt By Corporations For Corporations will not work in the USA.
This action by the Dems will result in rage from the Left and Right.
Every incumbent will be in big trouble!
Obama will seal his fate as a 1 term president.
How does that assertion square with the reporting below? [Unless what you were actually saying in that sentence is that "the Democratic caucus in the Senate [& House] has demonstrated an unparalleled allegiance to President Obama, above and beyond corporate funders, the Club, the Democratic Party platform, the public interest, or even party loyalty.”]
Obama is funny. He thinks its better to be a “good” one term president than an two termer. Thing is if Obama is a one term president its BECAUSE he’s been (thus far) a very BAD president. If Obama does not want to go down in the history books as worse than GW Bush, he’d better change course fast… Kick the Israeli zionists out of his admin especially Geithner and Emmanuel. He won’t do it though…
No Democrat is calling for Emanuel’s resignation
Well, I guess that just shows how much us voters “count” in this equation, which is: not. at. all. Suprise, surprise, surprise… NOT
It’s not like lefties didn’t start calling Rahm’s ouster almost before the words left BHO’s lips that he was appointing this “made man” as his CoS. I know that I was howling. And since when have we here (and elsewhere) not been clamoring for his early “release”??
Give me a break.
This is like the insulting SOTU, where BHO said words to the effect of: if anyone out there has a good idea for HCR, then I want to hear it. And that Dr. Flowers came to the White House the very next day with Single Payer Option info, plus also showed up the Baltimore conference asking to speak to BHO about single payer, and then got arrested for her efforts.
And so, do we hear Rahm or BHO saying anything about single payer???
UGH. BAH. Thanks for the article; it’s good, but it just serves to fire my indignation up several thousand notches. And don’t get me started on the “let’s just blame it all on the foot-dragging conserva-Dems” meme. They are crapulous, to be sure, but they have less accountability for the giant sucking failure of this which I lay squarely at the feet of BHO, and then secondarly at the feet of Emanuel, and then thirdly at the obstuctionist Republics, and only fourthly at the feet of conserva-Dems (crappy as they are).
You’re just a voter. You don’t count. The only thing that matters is what Democratic beltway insiders want or don’t want. I think what they were trying to say is that no legislative Dems are calling for his resignation, even in private. But, then, why would they? This kind of crap allows them to take lots of money in while still being able to pretend they aren’t screwing over their base. They really want public options and all, but that darned Rahm just messed it all up and now it can’t be done, poor babies!
As Obama says, My Only God is Rahm
The Obama team roped all of us dopes up in the words “Hope and Change.” At this point the big change is going into the pockets of Pharma and the Insurance companies pockets
Obama’s handlers are counting on his smile and charisma to pull him through. I wouldn’t underestimate them.
And there are additional ways to manipulate the electorate (Rove tactics in 2002 and 2004 proved that scales can be tipped even in favor of the likes of George W. Bush).
While I did not pose the question in a perjorative manner, it is bit rhetorical and I appreciate your candor. The point is, in my view, that all this handwringing about Emanuel is a bit, much ado about nothing. There never were 60 votes in the Senate for a public option. End of story that starts there. But I would question putting Baucus in charge of anything important. It is a bit like putting the Clintons in charge of something important.
That’s why Obama infuriates me more than Bush. Bush was an idiot. But Obama knew what we wanted. He was masterful at promising it to us in his campaign so he could get elected. Once elected, he’s screwing us over. To add insult to injury, his response to our complaints is to claim that he not only isn’t screwing us over, but that he never promised anything different. But, hey, better than Palin, so get in line. As the delinquents I work with like to say, “Fuck that shit!”
Republicans “no means no”
http://crooksandliars.com/
Is this where Obama is playing 11 th dimensional chess? Will he be able to turn around and say I tried everything to pull them into the process.
we can dream
A third party candidate could be even more of a threat in 2012
Rahm must go
I’d love to see one. I joined the Howard Dean 2012 facebook fan club, too, just to try to get some numbers up somewhere to show that people are mad enough about health care to look for our own solutions, and we’re not falling for lesser of evils crap any more. I’m frustrated at how few options there are for primaries in 2010. I know it all takes time and a lot of effort, especially given the power of those who love the status quo, but it doesn’t seem like we have that much time.
cool…didn’t know there was a Howard Dean 2012 Facebook…will look it up. Cheers.
However, with an operator like Rahm who has been able to amass that much power — I don’t think he did it alone, nor works alone. There are other players — I think he’s just the front guy — with one massive celebrity style ego.
E.g. I don’t think Rahm got rid of Chas Freeman alone.
Notice no one ever mentions Dennis Ross [Israel's lawyer] — wonder if Rahm gave him some WH real estate — spitting distance of the President? Remember he got one massive promotion moving from State to NSC [who organized that>] — so really intrigued to know where’s his office?
Yep, that is the biggest tell that 1) the piece is covered with Rahm’s fingerprints and 2) everyone knows that the health care bill is dead.
The Luce piece indicates the big knives are out for Rahm. He certainly wouldn’t be spinning the narrative to blame Obama if he didn’t have one foot out the door. Rahm’s fierce toadying to Obama is legendary.
Pretty brazen isn’t it.
Obama’s handlers are counting on
his smile and charismarunning against a dangerous loon like Sarah Palin to pull him through.[Minor edit applied]
What is this journalist’s definition of a “Democrat”? I guess only federally elected officials? Cause I’m hearing lots of real Democrats calling for Rahm’s departure.
Rahm is blaming it on the boss? Does that make sense?
“Use Senate reconciliation and expand Medicare via the Senate’s buy-in provisions. The CBO has already signed off on this as a means of saving money.
More importantly, if more Americans can do a buy-in with Medicare, it creates more cost control (because there’s a genuine “public option” competitor).
It also helps to solve the problems of pre-existing conditions, because Medicare does not deny coverage on this basis.
Allowing a Medicare buy-in to Americans under 65 would give people a genuine alternative to private insurance and thereby render the pre-existing question moot.
It would also lower Medicare costs by expanding the risk pool of patients (the great bulk of medical expenses are accounted for by a small number of people, mostly the elderly, requiring very expensive treatment).
And it would substantially enhance the global competitiveness of American corporations. After all, in what other country in the world is health care a marginal cost of production for business?” – Roosevelt Institute Marshall Auerback
Your analysis strikes me as cogent on every point.
Although I don’t think Obama looks like the wimp you describe; GWBush could never have gone to Cairo, nor would he have been involved in G-20, IMVHO.
But on these points:
I’m in complete agreement.
He also has to let Sebelius and Rockefeller and Wyden and others help him EXPLAIN the plan in plain, simple language.
Diagrams would also be helpful.
Yes, Dodd is out. But my point is that in a legislative body where one of the better people can claim to be negotiating for months with Dick Shelby on a relatively simple and very popular bill for a financial consumer protection agency, there does not seem to be any simple strategy that can produce good results.
40 block voting robotic republicans
20 or so decent Democrats
20 Dodd level “club members”
20 Blue Dog or worse.
If you have to keep Landrieu in your coalition and supposed core members like Dodd are insisting that a bipartisan agreement with effin SHELBY is a good path forward, you have a serious problem.
It’s interesting to see Republicans like Indie at work here.
I wish you’d propose a course of action that has a plausible positive outcome. Primarying Blanche Lincoln has a plausible positive outcome for progressive Democrats. Obsessing about the supposed evils of Rahm Emmanuel and which DC insider has the knives out for who does not.
What’s the problem? In order to get legislation through the Senate, Obama has had to water it down and move ridiculously slowly. The ability of the administration to get legislation through this senate is impressive – considering the crappy raw material.
Emanuel’s “joke” is Obama and sadly, Obama “doesn’t get it” either.
When Pelosi, at the direction of the White House, took away the Immigration Reform Folder from Congressman Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, and transferred it to Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, Gutierrez rightfully recognized that he was “slighted” for not being an able “opportunist” within the Chicago Crowd.
And as a Chicano, I too felt slighted.
However, back in the early spring of last year, I called for Emanuel to be fired. Therefore, all these public ideas that Emanuel needs to return to the private sector, reinforces my belief in the inevitable book title that is sure to come, as in “The Obama Legacy: The Chicago Crowd Cozied Up to Corporate America”. And that will be Obama writ large, as in he earned it and now deserves it. As such, there is no sympathy or empathy for Obama in this corner of the hinterlands.
Obviously, Michelle Obama is intimidated by this Chicago Crowd. If she were to come out to the Sonoran Desert, she would get an earful, and then some. Let’s hope it snows everday for the next three years in Washington D.C.
Jaango
So you’re predicting that the Senate bill is dead and that Rahm’s got one foot out the door? I don’t see that either is true, unfortunately.
The Senate bill is the template for what will be done going forward. See my comment @ 61.
There was a time when I thought Rahm was being sidelined, at least on hcr. But he’s not leaving the White House in 2010.
Only problem is that in my cynical world Emanuel doesn’t really work for Obama, Obama is a “front” put together by Emanuel and his old buddy Axelrod. Rahm self-selected himself as Chief-of-Staff taking that page right out of the Dick Cheney playbook. Healthcare failed because thanks to Rahm and Schumer there is no real Democratic Party, just a weak split between traditional Progressives and the Republican-lite Blue Dogs that provided the majority that dares not call its’ name!
There is simply no one Rahm won’t stab in the back if he needs to. No one. And when the crap really hits the fan for Barack’ll Bombya, he’ll be the first to get Rahm’s knife… Lie down with dogs, you’ll get up with fleas. Ask Ron Paul.
Rahm, I still think, is a mere lightning rod, pawn in the game of life along with Mongo.
Serious problem indeed. How about, “Wait till Dodd is out” and Shelby gets his ass kicked in the election. Problem solved. The whole purpose of this conversation is to indicate that keeping pressure on the WH to get Rahm out is a good idea, and providing supporting material that indicates the idea that getting Rahm out is on the table. Its a starting point to getting this administration back on track.
Rahm is the former head of the DCCC — and the guy who did his best to undermine Howard Dean’s fifty-state strategy because he wants a weak DNC.
Rahm is the guy who gave us NAFTA — and the 1994 debacle that NAFTA helped fuel by demoralizing the Democratic base.
The only course of action really open to real change depends on how much courage we, the people, may find, individually and collectively, to stand up and insist on having a society that is civil, just, and regards people as more important than money Or power.
This course is fraught with danger.
Every other course is defeat, and totally dangerous.
People will bleed and people will die.
The elites will lie and have no compunction with killing or maiming or destroying.
And we have to do it all non-violently.
Are you up to that?
Or do you seek an easier course?
I am curious, rootless.
What do you suggest we do?
DW
Rahm has indeed been “constantly miscalculating, misjudging, or misreading the tealeaves,” but this “has been the entire story of Rahm Emanuel” for the last 20 years, not just the past 12 months.
Remember, courtesy of Rahm, we got NAFTA and the 1994 punishment of Congressional Democrats who went along with NAFTA, none of the fixes to NAFTA that were promised (“we’ll fix it later” is the biggest lie in the world, now being bandied about as to the Senate HCR bill), lousy candidate selection for the 2006 and 2008 House elections (just take Republicans and put a “D” on them, and/or cut out the lefties in favor of the centrists, no matter who were actually the better candidates), and now the entire HCR debacle.
We’re told that Rahm is now, all of a sudden, misreading the Senate. He has been around Washington for 20 years. If he doesn’t understand the Senate after about 8 years of actual OJT as of now, he never will. Bring back Panetta as COS!
seems like Rahm is the one playing 11th dimensional chess. He may be a few moves in front of Obama.
Not sure why Obama ever trusted this guy?
Check this one out Grayson is over at Seminal recruiting votes
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/28958
Ha! you just reminded me:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02/19/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4813473.shtml
Not sure if I would want Panetta back as COS either… Jane Harman’s ex-AIPAC staffer went to work for him once he got his job at the CIA — so I shouldn’t think much would change.
Worth repeating. The establishment wants to pick the candidates, not the grassroots of the party — god no.
Funny how all that Congressional support could not get any left of center bill passed -
and when it could have passed – that left of center bill found that it needed 51 votes plus 9 – 60 votes minimum. Funny how Obama allowed that situation to be set up.
I wonder if Howard Dean has ever been invited to the White House in the last year. Our country cannot afford Rahm’s personal and petty politics. He should just pick up his steak knife and go home now.
- Tom
Next setup? Wondering if they really expect this to fly — a weakened use of the filibuster next year — when they expect to lose — oh how many more seats?
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/02/08/making_the_filibuster_a_campaign_issue.html
The “Clintons in charge”?
Interesting – it was Hillary who was pro single player in 93 (I was directly in that battle as my industry was fighting to get Bill to not listen to her – promising support for Bill if he dropped idea in favor of HMO approach and setting up buying co-operatives – of course the ins company CEOs were liars – But Bill believed the corporations).
It was the Democratic Senate in 93 that never had a vote on the reform. Later Bill Clinton passes Hillary/Hatch/Teddy’s Childrens Health care SCHIP via budget recon.
Now Obama comes in with 43 solid left votes for single payer in the Senate plus 9 more for public option – so he can pass public option via budget recon – so Obama/Rahm set up a 60 vote minimum.
Funny how the dig at Clinton was needed to ease the pain of the Obama betrayal.
Hard to see how Obama’s game playing can be equated with Clinton accomplishments or Hillary’s left of Bill push for single payer. Oh well – whatever floats your boat.
Clinton is currently the ‘haggard’ looking Sec. of State — goodness only knows what she would look like if she was President — the race is over.
Move on… she would have been no different — except maybe she would have had Bayh as Vice-VP, and Lieberman as Sec. of State, or even worse Sec. of Def.
This is interesting.
If I understand you correctly, you think that their corporate masters have the power to force Republicans (and Dems) to forge an agreement, even though an agreement gives Obama the victory he needs — which clearly cuts against Republicans’ interest in winning back the Congress and WH?
Really?
There is only one major figure who deserves blame for the healthcare fiasco and that’s Obama. I mean come on, folks, Emanuel has been in Washington for a couple of decades and he didn’t know how the Senate worked? Obama was a Senator. He didn’t know either? What we are getting is not just the blame game but revisionist history. The White House, the committees, the leadership in both the House and Senate, the Blue Dogs, the “centrist”, i.e. corporatist Senators, the AWOL mainline Democrats, the progressives who caved, the HCAN/Moveon veal pen, the progressives who stuck with the public option long after its substance had disappeared, all played a role in creating or enabling this POS legislation. But again the buck stops at Obama’s desk.
From the linked article:
“But the president decided healthcare had to pass when he had a strong political mandate and the party controlled large majorities in both chambers.
Obama was convinced overhauling the nation’s healthcare system would boost the struggling economy by curbing costs and reducing the long-term federal deficit, say Democratic sources.”
I do recall at the time there was a fuss made about the decision to work on HCR instead of jobs with the admin saying they were staying the course despite the rising unemployment, but reasons given now for this make no sense at all. Ever since the beginning HCR wasn’t planned to go into effect for years and as it stands now it wont go into effect until 2013/2014 with the current bills, so even if HCR did all that (which I don’t think HCR as proposed would), those benefits wouldn’t come about until years from now. Maybe it’s true that Obama said that to other Democrats to justify his course (actually as I remember his plan coming into office was HCR first even before the economy really tanked), but it doesn’t make much sense – I don’t know what is worse: him lying about his justifications (him being a complete snake) or him telling the truth (him being a complete idiot), which isn’t to say he isn’t both a snake and an idiot.
sigh…
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/14/clinton_role_in_health_program_disputed/
There were 50 or 51 votes in the Senate according to a whip count conducted by DFA, Open Left and HCAN. If you go to them, they may have the list of names. Not that some Senators were necessarily telling the truth when they said they supported it. Of course, if Obama/Rahm wanted the PO, he could have twisted arms to get it. Do you think he’s so weak he would sit back and let his plan die? Maybe Obama is that weak.
If that’s the case, Rahm is like some kind of demonic cuckoo that just pops out every decade to tank the Democratic Party and then withdraw into the clockworks.
No, the cuckoo pops out of the clockwork more than every decade.
more likely
I’ve lived under a single payer system — so to me it’s a no-brainer, but the political system here is so screwed up — that I really didn’t think SP had a chance in hell. However, I really thought that at least the democrats in congress could see that to maintain any cohesion with the party/base/voters they would have to at least throw us an attractive bone, instead of the sh*t sandwich we got — i.e. at least a solid PO — they could have at least fought for that — so we don’t have insurance companies jacking up their prices whenever they wanted … Which to my understanding they still can do if the Senate bill is passed?
Instead, absolutely disaster happened… the lobbyists totally ruled the show, and even the crackpot democrats were allowed out of their cages with the Stupak gang.
I realize they hate us [and Dean], I get that, but did they really think they could keep poking us in the eye and then turn round and expect our trust, respect and vote?
I think the answer is yes, but I don’t why.
What’s the procedure for moving to Canada? I internet-researched it months ago, and it didn’t look doable at all.
“No democrat is calling for Rahm’s resignation.”
Yet. :o)
Let’s see how much of those juicy congressional majorities we have left in 9 months.
And let’s see if the dems hold on to Obama’s old Senate seat in Illinois. Losing that would have the repubs in a state of ecstasy at least equal to their taking (Actually, being handed on a “centrist” platter…) Kennedy’s seat.
They went to work on health care reform, they wouldn’t let SP into the room, they put the worst corporate shills in charge, they gave everything away, left us NOTHING, right under our noses, with the MSM manufactured bigshots smiling on, they put in mandates forcing Americans to buy health insurance, and now…look around you. 70% of Democrats at blogs are screaming in a panic over how the “bill” needs to be passed NOW.
They not only CAN do it, they DID do it. Rachel Maddow preaches for it every night on MSNBC. When Olbermann announced he’d stop buying health insurance if the “reform” contained mandates without the public option, Rachel gravely followed with, “I know how difficult that was for you to say, Keith.” Pie in the face.
This is shamelessly all about passing the shit sandwich so obama and rahm can get re-elected. They really did think they could turn it into a SS and still look masterful for passing HCR. And I bet they pull it off. I wish I could bet major money on it, cuz I’d win something either way.
I want to say how ugly I find Baucus. He looks central-casting icky and villainous, I can’t get over thinking I’ve seen him in movies committing coldblooded slime in the lives of others. I’m OCD on criticizing the physical looks of ‘bad’ people. Feel better now. (Eric Cantor is so tiny and bony that when he sits down, his butt is in front; you can actually see it.) OK.
The health care bill they’re getting ready to pass in such a hurry is more than just a look-good for Obama. It’s another vital step in a doomsday (for the people) agenda, on a par with the supreme court ruling on personhood for corporations. It is world ending.
Some diarist last night tried to sell it here. To me, it read like a stern prayer, a sobbing plea, one numerical fact giving imaginary birth to an octopus of conclusions, as in “Look! Just take my word for it!”
Oh yeah, and the 39% rate hike over at Anthem is to terrify us into dropping to our knees sobbing for the hurried passage of the bill. Sebilius is just saying her lines.
Alan1tx @ 54: wadr, the idea that only 1 percent of american voters could understand what an anti-trust exemption is, espccially for the health insurance fatcats that have been gang-raping americans, is, I think is nonsense. It would be more accurate to reverse your numbers. In fact, if your pessimism is accurate, this question wouldn’t even be coming up, since there wouldn’t be any big democratic majorities to even have the CHANCE to strip anti-trust exemptions from the corporate leeches.
Of course, I freely admit that any chance of success in it involves having Obama and the “leadership” get off their “centrist” asses and making the modicum of effort required to make sure that most voters understand what is at stake. And, since we saw jackshit of that in the healthcare reform debate, I’m not sanguine about our chances in this one.
But, as I’ve been saying for some time now, forcing the republicans to filibuster on important and REAL progressive legislation is all we have left.
Notice how Obama keeps saying the bill “provides” health insurance to 30 million people.
That’s the mandate. IT provides that millions more people will buy medical insurance, like it or not, even if you have a pre-existing condition, because the insurance companies can charge you X-times more for pre-existing conditions and X-times more if you’re between 50 and 64.
“The bill provides health insurance to millions of uninsured Americans.”
GAG*
Me too. It’s always difficult for me to tell whether they’re “bad” because they’re “ugly” or vice versa.
These are some of the most humorous, clever, angry posts I have seen in quite a while.
such as:
I love it but the problem is that Medicare reimbursements are so low that even general practitioners (too few of them, also, in the practioner pool) won’t accept any more, or ANY, medicare patients. You expand the pool of medicare patients but there’s no one to provide care for them!!!!
And the private insurers and big med and PhARMA KNOW this!
The key to ANY changes to provide competition for the private insurers and big med and PhARMA will be to RAISE Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements . . . . to do THAT we’d have to end ONE war. I don’t see any of this happening.
That’s incorrect.
Obama, and Reid, and Pelosi have the majority in WH, and both Chambers of Congress.
From day one, had Obama championed real HCR of any sorts, SP aside, they could have easily told both chambers of the Dem Persuasion . . . You help us, or we cut you loose funding wise from the party immediately.
That’s all it would have taken, to force filibusters, and defeat the GOP minority, and pass legislation.
But it never WAS going to happen, because the Dem Party, WH and Congress, are bought and paid for by the corporate structure. And working to pass reform at ANY level or on ANY issue would have/and will, result in immediate loss of corporate funding with all monies going to the GOP.
When you accept the premise that our government is bought and is working for the corporate machine, then the rest reveals itself for the kabuki it is . . . just for show.
Bingo.
Neat, sweet, short.
That’s what we are up against, that’s what has to be done.
Almost a better chance/odds on the whole system collapsing first, than we the people making any dent of change, though.
Sad it is.
Yeah, if ya look at what DID get passed, well, it’s a corporate dream for the most part.
Yes, really.
You are fixed on the kabuki of party v. party . . . there IS no party v. party, that’s kabuki for the voters.
The reality is they all work for the corporate structure, and do what they are told, get elected when they are told, and get UNelected when they are told. In the meantime, they serve the corporate structure in office, and out of office.
Ignore the kabuki, it’s only there to distract you.
None of the health care reform ideas does enough to control overall costs. Why don’t we ever know the costs of health care procedures and treatments? Check this out:
http://www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare