President Obama has proposed ending one of the more wasteful crony capitalism programs currently funded by the federal government. The government provides students loans in two ways–the first and most effective of which is to just directly loan money to students. This is done through the William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan Program. The other way is to guarantee student loans provided by private companies, through the government-guaranteed Federal Family Education Loan Program (FFEL). Not surprisingly, adding a private middleman adds waste and inefficiency. Eliminating this would save the government $80 billion:
CBO estimated that replacing new guarantees of student loans with direct lending would yield gross savings in federal direct (or mandatory) spending of about $87 billion over the 2010–2019 period.2 (Mandatory spending is governed by existing provisions of law and does not require future appropriations.) About $7 billion of those savings would represent a reduction in the administrative costs of the guaranteed loan program, which are recorded in the budget as mandatory spending. In contrast, most of the administrative costs for the direct loan program are funded in appropriation bills and recorded as discretionary spending. Thus, of the $87 billion reduction in direct spending, roughly $7 billion would be offset by an increase in future appropriations for administrative costs, for an estimated net reduction in federal costs from the President’s proposal of about $80 billion over the 2010–2019 period.
Sen Judd Gregg (R-NH), like several other Republicans, was not happy with this conclusion. It seems Republicans don’t like proof that the government is more efficient than private businesses at some things. So, Gregg asked the CBO to re-analyze the cost of eliminating the subsidizing of private loan companies, assuming an extremely high default rate. Even in this doomsday scenario, the change would still save the federal government $47 billion:
The FCRA methodology, however, does not include the cost to the government stemming from the risk that the cash flows may be less than the amount projected (that is, that defaults could be higher than projected). CBO found that after accounting for the cost of such risk, as discussed below, the proposal to replace new guaranteed loans with direct loans would lead to estimated savings of about $47 billion over the 2010–2019 period—about $33 billion less than CBO’s estimate under the standard credit reform treatment.
The simple fact is that it is between 10-20% more efficient for the government to directly provide loans when compared with using a private middleman.
CBO estimates that over the 2010–2019 period, the subsidy cost for each dollar of a guaranteed loan will exceed the subsidy cost for each dollar of a direct loan by between 10 cents and 20 cents.
With everyone in Washington right now pretending to really care about the deficit, there is no excuse to not make this reform. Which senators are going to step up to be the defenders of crony capitalism? Who will be the champions for these finance firms to protect them from Obama’s attempt to cut off their gravy train of wasted tax payer money? We may soon find out because the lobbyists are out in force to kill reform.




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Before blindly killing this program it would behoove people to realize how many jobs will be affected first. It makes ZERO sense why we are eliminating programs with thousands of private sector jobs/careers that are already established and then routing 10x that money back to a “jobs bill” to create short term employment with far less efficiency. Common senses given our current economy and the law of “unintended consequences” should be considered here first.
Given that the banks seem to think their profits out weigh the need for reasonable loan rates for students, given the obscene nature of the bonuses banks pay for destroying the economy, maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad thing for folks in banking to actually see how it feels to be without a job for a bit.
As difficult as it may be for those who worship at the altar of Ayn Rand and the “invisible hand,” the federal government actually does operate more efficiently just by NOT having to wring every last penny of profit out of students who are only wanting to improve their lot in life.
If hard working welfare moms can’t suck off the USG teet, neither can your asshole leeches. Do the college lending efficiently, thru the USG, and let your leeches compete in a real market place for jobs. Them maybe they’d see what the real world is like.
Sure there is. The excuse is contained in the statement, their concern is only a pretense, a sham, a mockery, a fraud, a chimera, and an insult to the voters they theoretically represent.
a pretense, a sham, a mockery, a fraud, a chimera, and an insult to the voters they theoretically represent.
So does that mean somebody’s bullshitin’ us?
how long have private industry been able to hoodwink americans into beleiving private industry is more efficient then government service?
it is incredible how easily americans were fooled, incrdible how obviously wrong that propaganda was
it was amazing how easily private industry pointed out the truth when it came down to nuts and bolst, there only reason for oposing government health care is that they could not compete
yet the american public is STILL convinced it’s BETTER having private industry provide “commons” services, even when they are told in no uncertain terms it will cost them less if the government does it then if they have to buy it
It’s amazing to see these “defenders” of the status quo show up every time some corporate welfare program is under review.
We can’t afford crony capitalism its like the parasites have taken over our nations brain.
O/T: Did anyone manage to hold it together long enough to make it through the one-hour, $100G Nashville session with the Grifter-in-Chief? Basic black and pearls. And plenty of bullshit…
Government budgets (state and Federal) have become huge slush funds GOP and Dem pols use to reward key pressure groups and campaign contributors.
You’ve got to admit they’ve got the talking points memorized.
I am among those who believe there is a problem with a large deficit, the bill has to be payed somehow by someone, if paper is simply printed you pay with inflation, if you allow the debt you pay by having less money available for business loans, if money is printed anyway for business loans you are back to inflation and the costs implied with lower real salaries and higher real prices when inflation adjusted
I know now is not the time to worry about deficit but there is a time and we cannot just ignore it
Why don’t you contribute something new to the conversation? Links would be nice.
Inflation cannot occur until demand exceeds supply. So stop worrying about trying to create demand any way possible.
Index cards still work, apparently…
the jobs lost will be dwarfed by the LIVING WAGE jobs created with that 80 billion
why on earth would the government privitise something they could do for billions less?
with those billions there are jobs that can be had, the differance is the profit model of private industry, that’s waste that goes to the wealthy, the wealthy getting government largess does not help the economy one bit, when the middle class gets the benefit of this kind of investment it goes straight back into the economy
The Market is down this week Healthcare seems dead and with it the stupid insurance company bailout of forcing everyone to buy insurance.
The cap and trade plan seems dead too that might mean all that money going for new nuclear plants/the stealth bailout of General Electric is dead with it.
The GOP seems to only care about helping the banks they seem to be eager to kill Obama’s every attempt to save other big businesses.
Why?
won’t there come a time that you do need to worry ecahn?
that’s my point, you don’t worry when there isn’t enough money being spent but you do worry when the money printed becomes abundant
so I agree, now is not the time to worry but I think we need to moderate our rhetoric so we don’t look like we are opportunists and lose our credibility when it does become the time to worry
They only had 600 people figure hotel bills, security, food, gift bags, Sarah’s fee well I’m wondering just how much money they lost?
Also was Sarah’s book in the gift bag and did they buy full price or get it at discount?
They clearly can’t dazzle us with brilliance, so baffling with bullshit remains standard procedure.
Personally, I’d be dazzled by a semblance of integrity and competence but then I’d also like a pony.
I read the live blog, i should have had a window up with a live blog from a concervative site as well but did not
from what I heard it was really lame, she does not have the timing she had at the convention
but that’s me, I’m a progressive, most of us interperate things to the best of our own point of view, I’d like to see what a concervative or tea bag blog thought of her
Best way to cut the deficit would be to stop treating defense spending like a sacred cow.
I think I heard C-SPAN mention that 1100 peeps paid $300 per to hear the hag prattle this evening. That’s $330 Large right there, which covers her with plenty of change. On the other hand, there were considerable other expenses. Time will tell…
Crony Capitalism is good for the parasite but kills the host.
I’d like to see what a conservative or tea bag blog thought of her
I’m sure they’re still wiping up. Give ‘em time…
A no-brainer is right.
The time to worry will be abundantly clear enough in advance. Fear mongering now is terrible.
I’d also like a pony.
Write your Congress Peep. They’re usually pretty responsive about ponies.
Fear mongering now is terrible.
Yup.
Not to mention that all those private bank employees can apply for the government job doing the same thing, and probably have better wages and benefits. They bargain collectively.
Obviously, I didn’t scroll far enough down the page to notice that FDL liveblogged the Palin-a-Palooza. Apologies.
However, it’s inevitable that deficit reduction will rule the day and the middle class tax payers will be the losers.
LA Times was saying this morning that there’s 600 people at the convention.
I know weekend science fiction conventions that get more people than that every year, and they only want $50 for a full membership, including the ice cream social and the costume contest. (You don’t get Sarah, but you do have a lot more fun. And most of the attendees are intelligent.)
Koz’s people I’m sure have experience figuring convention expenses the 600 number I think was for the whole convention the 1100 number is that 600 plus people who only paid to see Sarah.
Yeah, but did you notice that on the top of her podium is says Gaylord?
Gaylord. Is there a secret meaning???
smartee pants….bee well!
great point loo hoo, they can even be given preferential hiring consideration
Which part are you worried about? The part caused by unpaid-for immoral wars, the part caused by tax cuts for the wealthy, or the part caused by unemployment?
stagflation,or depression…the whole country will lose
Hoping my bees are faring well over the winter. No way to tell until spring.
I am googling for a live blog of palin’s speech on a concervative blog, cannot find one, I wonder if they have this whole internet thingy down yet
Well, she is certainly no Judy Garland.
On the same NYT page is a link to a pertinent Frank Rich column.
i worry about all the critters in this wacky winter…every night i scatter bird food,and just cat and dogfood outside
Wingnut internet service is still bottlenecked by the cup and string protocol, I’m afraid.
hehe
I grant the dept would be easy to pay off if we get someone who would provide for progressive policy
do you see that happening any time soon?
and I think everyone misses my point
when it does become time to consider the debt, progressives will have lost their credibility because we are saying without equivication that it does not matter
we denifinately need to point out that it does not matter at THIS particular time in ecomonic conditions so that we have credibility when we do find the time that it matters
I wonder if when Sarah says her fee will be recycled back into the movement if her fee won’t be washed into her daughter’s funny PR Consulting firm.
High school grad with a PR and consulting firm and Sarah doesn’t think she is one of the Elite? Tell that to all the B.A’s flipping burgers.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Bristol-Palin-to-give-political-advice-No-really-81262972.html
Ultimately. A (relatively) gradual decline, ya think?
I do the bird feeder thingy. My cat luvs to watch from the windows, but is a typical D, all talk and no action. (Fine when the subject is cats v. birds.) Can’t do the food for other critters near the house as I have quite the coyote population. They come near the house under normal circumstances and don’t want to provide them even more reason to hunt for my cat.
Thanks to me this neighborhood has the fattest squirrels on Earth (fortunately the birds still get some of the food too). Great grandchildren of Pearl The Girl Squirrel, I suspect. Pearl was a scrappy critter, missing half an ear and half her tail. She used to peer in the window waiting for me to come out and feed her cashews. If I saw her in the front yard and told her to meet me by the back door she’d be waiting when I got there.
What am I missing here? The Republicans are opposed to ending a government program !
I musta misread something this just doesn’t make sense , maybe some Senators brother in law runs the program.
Yeah that’s it it’s got to be ,I mean this makes no sense
putting the brakes on a plane thats stalling,makes it crash to earth
Too soon to tell how virulent the deficit reduction meme will be. Could be like WMDs, in which case all is lost.
Not only is it more efficient for the government to lend taxpayer funds directly to students, it eliminates many of the secretive, hard to read, onerous debt obligations creditors stick into every possible nook and cranny of their loan documents. Those would not be politically palatable for the government to write or enforce, nor does it need them when it can withhold privileges such as federal jobs and security clearances, and can collect its debts by deducting amounts due via the tax system or from the payment of federal obligations such as Social Security. Moreover, it can more readily administer credits and sanctioned write-offs of this debt, which it does or should offer for military service, teaching in designated public schools and significant volunteer work.
The current semi-privatized student loan system is an $8 billion a year boondoggle, virtually free money for the banking system. It is an expense and a social cost Americans could not and cannot afford to sponsor via Congressional charter to private banks.
loves me the squirrels,they are neat little critter never pooped on my patio,when i had one
I hate to believe the powers that be could be that stupid, but they have consistently proven that they are. All bets are off…
Ouch! Why don’t you tell us how you really feel, eCAHN ;)
lots of coyotes here too…5 cats all indoors,presrveroom,and garage,dogs watched when they are out
Yep.
Mine act pretty tame but I never forget they are wild animals. It’s alright if they come close but I would never feed them by hand.
Trying to preserve, protect … but it’s gettin’ mighty hard.
Letting Cahnstance out during the day I hope is OK. But she, like the dogs, luv them some night roaming. I hope that keeping her in after dark will be sufficient.
I nearly hit a coyote last Saturday night on the way home from work.
that makes good sense
My two kitties are never allowed out. Coyotes (and other critters) seem to understand that kitties taste like chicken.
In the past ten years I’ve actually seen foxes in town. I would not be at all surprised if we have coyotes.
Not to mention being easier to catch than roadrunners.
The government’s just been responsible to pay the banks if the student doesn’t pay. Public debt, private profit.
Well. it’s telling that the old joke…
We pretend to vote,
They pretend to get elected, then
They pretend to act in the interest of their constituents.
Simply isn’t a joke anymore; it’s the sad, sad truth.
greatname……..g….just keep your eyes peeled,(non dermatoligicly)
Well, golly gee, except for damage to your car, be my guest. My hunter friend, who has other properties besides mine to hunt on, sez he’s never seen so many dogs except on my property. I had a cat for 15 years without problems a decade ago. But now I have a new (2 year old) cat who I luv dearly, and I am very intent on keeping her safe.
G
lol
Natch.
i hungry again
Cahnstance, as I’ve mentioned before, is a real D cat. All talk, no action. So I let her out. She stays on the back porch, wagging her tail at the birds on the feeder and crackling in her throat. A half hour later I open the door at which she is right next to, and she comes scurrying in. Couldn’t ask for a closer D party affiliation.
oreos and milk?
verrry kewl
Breakfast of champions. :-)
Late nite upstairs.
I’ve heard the coyotes howling at night from my house and a walk down the railroad tracks will usually reveal a few cat carcasses . The coyotes eat them and leave little more than fur and bones. I know they are mostly nocturnal but will sometimes come out during the day . If you have coyotes coming into your yard it may not be a good idea to let the cat out at all ,day or night
Squirrels – rats with bushy fur
coyotes – greedy wolves with bad dispositions
bankers on the public dole – coyotes with even worse dispositions
The true believers in the invisible hand of Adam Smith usually haven’t read Mr. Smith thoroughly. For example, in Moral Sentiments, Smith wrote “Where there is no moral framework, no ethical sensibility, the market ends up devouring all the other sectors and then ends up devouring itself.” That quote IMHO, would be the perfect epitaph for Alan Greenspan.
As for Rand, she was severely psychologically damaged as a child and acted out like anyone who gets strong messages that they do not belong on this earth. They tend to live life as unloving and unlovable. Life becomes them against the world and of course her inflexible idealism attracts people with a similar psychological issues. Rand is the pied piper for pseudo intellectuals with control issues. The “Virtue of Selfishness” indeed.
I, for one, would just like to know why these people think the rest of us are so stupid.
“Private student loans” doesn’t look like very much more than someone in private industry touching the check before it goes out to the college. (This is for the loans that are backed by the government.)
If some banker touches the check, now it’s capitalism? This makes no sense.
If the banks want to lend to students and bear all the risk, like Real Capitalism, that’s one thing. But here, it looks like someone dressed up as a capitalist and got the government to hand it a sweet processing deal off government guarantees. Even if the money is raised privately, the insurance against default is from good old Uncle Sammy. So this is really government activity, not private industry.
The arrogance of some in business that they think if they touch the check, it magically transforms it into something other than, well, socialism. Not capitalism. Just like social security, Medicare, and limited liability for corporatons.
It never makes sense to keep wasteful jobs just because they pay out money. That’s called welfare. We need to build jobs but we’re not going to get anywhere if we are paying people to do nothing.
Politicians spend OPM (other people’s money) like drunken sailors. Lets think about this for a second. The average american will pay roughly $100,000 dollars in federal taxes over the course of their increasinging devalued lives. So it takes 10 tax payer lives to spend a million, 10,000 tax payer lives to spend a billion! They, these disgusting cretens that have lied cheated and stolen their way to elective office, want to STEAL 80,000 yes that is EIGHTY THOUSAND taxpayer lives to enrich their CORRUPT DISGUSTING CRONIES IN THE BANKSTER INDUSTRY. Its time to deal with the vermin in both parties that are destroying the once United States of America. May the tea partiers flourish.
you really think the government is going ot take on the manpower necessary to handle all the loan applications? That will be outsourced…probably back to the very same companies specialized in student lending…meaning they can take a much lower risk business model on…just get paid up front for loan processing…..think subprime mortgage broker….
And the only reason there isn’t a very viable student loan business int eh private sector, is because the government has an unfair advantage int he student loan business, and that is the primacy of student loan debts, and their exemption from personal bankruptcy. If you extended that to private sector student loan providers, there would be ample student loan money coming fromt he private sector.
The motivation for a 22 year old with $80k in debt to declare bankruptcy and take the credit hit until they are 30 to have gone to college free and clear is pretty high.
the private sector could do it, if they had the recourse to the exclusion of student loans from Bankruptcy that the government enforces.
They don’t so you are comparing apples to oranges.
But, of course, every touch of the check also makes the check smaller.