From the President’s State of the Union speech:
To close that credibility gap we must take action on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue to end the outsized influence of lobbyists; to do our work openly; and to give our people the government they deserve.
That’s what I came to Washington to do. That’s why – for the first time in history – my Administration posts our White House visitors online.
It’s ironic this statement comes on the same day that Henry Waxman’s Energy and Commerce Committee makes a bipartisan request for information meetings that the White House held during May and June of 2009 with PhRMA, the hospitals, the AMA and others when the secret deals memorialized in the Senate bill were cut.
“There is a legitimate need for transparency regarding health reform,” Mr. Waxman said in statement at a panel meeting on the request.
The person who was charged with cutting those deals at the White House was Rahm Emanuel. “Obama’s White House is run by Rahm Emanuel,” said the NY Times. He proudly “runs the [health care] campaign out of his West Wing office.” The Hill refers to him as “one of the principal architects of healthcare reform” who “played a crucial role in striking an accord with the pharmaceutical industry earlier this year.”
But if you look at the White House visitor logs for those months, there are only 11 meetings listed for Rahm, one of which was with his brother (the agent):
| # | Date | Name | Affiliation |
| 1 | 6/30/2009 | Stephen Cohen | Brookings Institute |
| 2 | 6/30/2009 | Dennis Rivera | SEIU |
| John Podesta | Center for American Progress | ||
| Kirk Adams | SEIU | ||
| Leslie Dach | WalMart | ||
| Michele Nawar | SEIU | ||
| Judy Feder | Center for American Progress | ||
| 3 | 6/25/2009 | George Kaiser | George Kaiser Family Foundation |
| 4 | 6/17/2009 | Addison Rand | AARP |
| Erin Shields | Baucus Aide | ||
| Jon Selib | Baucus Chief of Staff | ||
| 5 | Nicholas Malkovitch | Baucus Assistant | |
| 6 | 6/9/2009 | Jonathan Lavine | Bain Capital |
| 7 | 6/1/2009 | Lewis Sachs | Counselor to the Treasury Secretary |
| 8 | 5/28/2009 | Lewis Sachs | Counselor to the Treasury Secretary |
| 9 | 5/27/2009 | John Podesta | Center for American Progress |
| 10 | 5/8/2009 | Ari Emanuel | Brother |
| 11 | 5/9/2009 | Jon Huntsman | Governor of Utah |
It appears from these limited records that Rahm negotiated the health care bill primarily with unions, think tanks and Hill Staffers. There are no lobbyists listed other than Rahm’s friend Joel Johnson of the Glover Park Group, but the White House later said that meeting never took place. Billy Tauzin, head of PhRMA, apparently visited the White House 11 times. Somehow Rahm, who played a “critical role” in striking the PhRMA deal, is never listed as meeting with him.
The lack of disclosure regarding Rahm Emanuel’s participation in these deals is merely symptomatic of the problem, however. The White House began releasing full visitor logs starting in September, but has never offered more than selective disclosure about which stakeholders were there during that critical time early in 2009. Moreover, the first visitor logs records released by the White House included more detailed descriptions of meetings (which often showed [REDACTED] content, including a meeting on 11-MAY-09). The current White House visitor records include highly sanitized versions (if any) about the nature of the meetings.
Why the change to less information rather than more?
The Obama White House has certainly been better about transparency than Dick Cheney’s black hole, but their commitment seems to be to the idea rather than the spirit of transparency. The whole point of requests for release of the logs was to shine light on deals that have been cut, and yet the White House has adamantly refused to provide any information on them.
Lack of transparency with regard to deals cut in secret is one of the factors that has made the public mistrust the administration’s health care bill. Release of those records could do much to allay many fears.




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Excellent research again Jane. It is nice to read actual reporting on the President’s speech and policies. Can’t we just get all the tapes from C-Span, where they were discussing healthcare?
“The lack of disclosure regarding Rahm Emanuel’s participation in these deals is merely symptomatic of the problem, however. The White House began releasing full visitor logs starting in September, but has never offered more than selective disclosure about which stakeholders were there during that critical time early in 2009. Moreover, the first visitor logs records released by the White House included more detailed descriptions of meetings (which often showed [REDACTED] content, including a meeting on 11-MAY-09). The current White House visitor records include highly sanitized versions (if any) about the nature of the meetings.”
SELECTIVE DISCLOSURES ouch
Obama “That’s what I came to Washington to do. That’s why – for the first time in history – my Administration posts our White House visitors online”
I don’t recall him saying ‘we just started doing this in Sept”
So how do you get the full list for that period of time? Or all the way back to the beginning of the Obama administraion
I don’t remember the exact date but they did start releasing the visitor logs after a lot of push back from different groups.
That’s why – for the first time in history – my Administration posts our White House visitors online. Of course our really important meetings are held at Denny’s, and they don’t require visitor logs.
The final question on the exam is: Compare and contrast the openness of obama’s administration with that of bush II.
Another excellent “catch”, Jane.
DW
Really, that is your standard?
I know he did not. I was being sarcastic. His statment infers that they have been transparent all along which from what Jane and others have said is not true
SELECTIVE DISCLOSURES
Gotcha. Thanks
That’s not just lowering the bar. It’s dropping it into the Marianas Trench.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the firepup Freedom Fighters:
Keep the heat on, Sister Jane, ObamaRahma knows after the Massachusetts Massacre and the lukewarm reception to the SOTU from the progressive base that if he doesn’t pitch big Pharma and the health insurance cartel overboard he’s toast in 2012 and the only ones who lose in November are his administration and the Blue Dogs. I have been sayin this since his inauguration and he’s tryin ta prove me wrong but Obama is NOT stupid, he’s like any other red blooded American male, he needs ta be hit in the head with reality a few times before he gets it.
I really wanna know if Waxman will follow up and where Phony Pelsoi is gunna come down on the healthcare bill and the Stupid Stupak language. What do ya hear about where Pelosi is on the healthcare thing and Rahm’s coup attempt? It seems that Pelosi is the political power on legislation from now until November, what’s shakin’ Citizen?
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…IT’S ALL ABOUT THE CORPORATE WARS FOR PROFIT DON’TCHA KNOW!!!
To be fair, Obama ran on Hope and Change, not Honesty and Integrity.
It’s possible he mentioned them in passing but he was probably lying.
I thought everyone was supposed to have a seat at the fucking table. Well, I haven’t had a seat or to my knowledge anyone representing old gray haired ladies that are unemployed, uninsured, with pre-existing conditions.
Where’s my fucking seat Rahm?
This is Cheney’s secret energy meetings revisited. No damn difference.
Ruh roh! Looks like it’s time for the thugs of bossed politics to condemn Henry Waxman as a “leftbagger.” Pretty soon about the only “good Democrats” left will be Evan Bayh and Mary Landrieu.
I imagine that Rahm quite “proudly” runs the program for disclosing visitor logs, too.
Haven’t you ever played musical chairs? Rahm stopped the music and there wasn’t a chair left for the american people. Insurance got a seat, Pharma got a seat and Ben Nelson got a seat.
Here is a possibility. The folks signed in for those meetings were not signed in to meet with Rahm but to meet with someone else and Rahm was in the meeting. Meetings with the President, Nancy DeParle, or Jim Messina, for example.
A meeting could also start with one office in the White House and then move to other offices in sequence.
And the nuts and bolts of the deals were probably not negotiated with principals like Tauzin but with their staffs. And on the White House side, there were more than Rahm in the room.
Then all follow ups were done through email exchanges and by telephone.
The final possibility is that meetings held in Congressional offices (Max Baucus, for example) were attended by Rahm.
Even if you had full disclosure of White House visitor logs, you might not see the meetings at which Rahm made his deals. Rahm could very well have “run” the healthcare campaign out of his office without any industry representative every setting foot into that office. Or directly going to meet with him.
Visitor logs have the purpose of monitoring security, not providing transparency.
Now if you had some dates certain of meeting that were not reported in the logs, that is a different matter. There are more questions here than just “Where are the logs?”
Maybe “disclosure” refers to the door to Rahm’s office, as in, “I want dis door open until the PhRMA reps get here, then I want dis door closed.”
All the messaging is so chaotic I’m not sure there is anything but noise. Many members scrambling for any excuse to vote against the bill from many different directions.
Bottom line: I don’t believe any member of the House is going to do shit until the Senate acts. They’re tired of getting hung out to dry by going first, passing something then having the Senate decree what everyone must do. They feel (with some justification) that if they’d never even bothered to take a vote on health care it would be the Senate and not them who was taking the hit right now. Those who voted against the House bill have had more resilience in the polls than those who voted for it — even though it’s a more popular bill than the Senate bill. So, I really don’t see the House doing anything until the Senate acts. But the Senate isn’t acting, and Obama’s not doing anything above the radar to push them, so the log jam looks somewhat perpetual at the moment.
Great campaign slogan.
Obama: not as bad as Dick Cheney.
What the lying bastard didn’t mention is that he didn’t release the logs until after Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued him over his refusal to do so.
Are old grey-haired ladies (who are unemployed, uninsured, with pre-existing conditions) allowed to use the f word?
Actually was sitting thinking exactly the same thing when your comment popped up.
Wonder when Rahm will call in the paper shredding trucks. Does he have a secret room filled with man-sized safes?
Well, here we are in the greater Tampa Bay area with the President and Vice President set for a “town hall” at UTampa, having flown in this morning.
Unlike when Bush came to the area in ’05 to sell his Social Security crap, not EVERY local TV station with a news department is covering the town hall.
When I watched the coverage in ’05, I noticed all the local stations were covering except for one, which was showing Jerry Springer. Springer’s topic that day was “Liars Confronted.” I’ve always wondered which stations that day had the most truthful show.
I wonder what Springer’s topic will be for today?
Hard to tell, there appears to be some dispute regarding what constitutes a safe-sized man.
“Liars Continued” might be an appropriate choice.
“Every war is a war against children.” Howard Zinn, Nov 2009 at Boston U.
It really was a good speech. I think it would have been a GREAT speech if Obama was not recommending transparency on things he himself was guilty of.
Apparently, he still thinks he’s on the campaign trail, or simply thinks nobody has been paying attention over the past year.
Citizen Hamsher:
Thank you for the response to my question. I can’t blame the House folks that you reference above and believe that they have it right. As I have been sayin for months now, the key to healthcare reform and indeed a new politics for the next 2 years at least resides in the House of Representatives. Obama created a monster when he mobilzed a new Democratic coalition of the young and minorities and “liberal” whites and if any one of those stays home in ANY election north of the Mason Dixon Line, then no Democrat can get elected to ANYthin includin’ dogcatcher.
That’s why I have been suggestin’ to you that Phony Nancy Pelosi is the pressure point here. She has ridden to power by prestendin’ to be “liberal” and agonizin’ over abortion as a Catholic politician, but if she wants to remain Speaker and doesn’t want Rahm to take her spot in 2012, then she needs to smother Stupid Stupak with a complete copy of the Constitution and force the Senate to bring the public option back into the bill.
Keep the heat on ObamaRhama, because if I’m wrong and Obama really is a shill for the corporate fascists then nothin’ matters untill we get rid of both the Blue Dogs and Obama startin in November. You get another oakleaf cluster for your Norske Medal of Citizenship, dear…I’ll keep it for ya on my mantle with the others.
“It is dangerous for a national candidate to say things that people might remember.” Eugene McCarthy
The sad part of this log is how few visitors actually come to visit Rahm. Sure he meets with his brother and all but doesn’t it seem possible that since Rahm is the center of the Obama movie universe that he would be in more of the meetings? Maybe there needs to be a game called “Six Degrees of Rahm Emmanuel” to work out the relationships.
Or maybe, as others have already said, releasing these logs simply tells you where the signer said they were going and tells us nothing about meeting composition or topics. Releasing the logs now also tells us that instructing important visitors on what to sign will become an even more common strategy.
It might be an incomplete list OR a complete fabrication.
I don’t think I would be able to infer that because Rahm’s name is not listed as the primary visit for a lot of these folks that he didn’t actually meet with them.
And I would not make any wagers that this is a completely comprehensive list of all WH visitors for the period in question.
Since we watch what the President does rather than listening to what he says, we decided to watch an 1952 anti-communist propoganda movie. The only thing that has changed in 58 years is the putitive enenemy.
Move to Amend. David Cobb, spokesperson, is on my radio as we speak. Everything we can do, do.
Thank you, Inspector Uhl.
Some things have changed in the past 58 years, the influence of special interests has grown at a nearly exponential rate.
You’re correct though, the disingenuous nature of politicians remains a constant.
Talked with lots of old grey haired ladies in the communities of Glouster, Trimble, Nelsonville, Chauncey etc Ohio in the run up to the 2004 Presidential election. If I would have taped the things they were saying about the Bush administration the F.B.I would have been knocking at these old ladies doors. Now not that any of them would do what they were saying. But the comments were blowing my mind. Damn violent..pissed off..o.k. they were just expressing themselves. Because they did not have a seat at the table
Whoa. Florida Townhall. First question: how about condemning Israel actions against occupied Palestine?
Female student who worked for Obama.
Out of the frying pan and into the fyre.
Jane: the comments above about what visitor logs actually mean are spot on. A secretary can sign someone in. I do not care what the -rules- are, that is how it could play out on the ground. I think the best that can be done is review all visitors and look for *suspects* and patterns. The play then is to ask the White House and the *suspects* to explain themselves. They can only say so many times: we are giving tours of the paintings to all comers.
Yeah, I heard that on the radio. Whamo. Young lady was presented with an opportunity and made the most out of it. I love revolutionaries.
I was trying to tease the Old Hippie one because she reminds me a great deal of my beloved. And yes, she can drop F-bombs with the best of ‘em.
That man is leaving behind some huge foot prints for all of us to step in. Dedicated to truth, justice and peace. We walk in his giant shadow. I had no idea that he was 87. His mind was as sharp as a tack even during the last several years. Cut through all the bullshit
May he rest in peace
these old gals were old coal mining wives. Salt of the earth, they were not saying the f word. They were talking about doing damage to Bush and Cheney. Lots of “if I could get away with it” statements. They would say “now don’t tell anyone what I am about to say” I would laugh and encourage them to “let it out”
Would also share with them that lots of their neighbors felt the same way. Lots of union folks in that neck of the woods
It isn’t the meetings held at the White House.
It’s all the little lovely ones held with open-handed members of congress and their staffers.
link
Don’t blame Rahm. Obama, Deputy Chief of Staff Messina, Policy Analyst Cannistra, and (staffers?) Fenn and Sheehy met with Tauzin not Rahm.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/waves/all/tauzin?order=APPT_START_DATE&sort=asc#visitor-data
Appt Date Arrival Departure #People Visitee Description
2009-02-04 00:00:00 00:00:00 50 Obama SCHIP signing
2009-02-04 00:00:00 00:00:00 215 Tina Tchen Bill signing
2009-03-05 12:30:00 00:00:00 106 Obama
2009-03-25 00:00:00 00:00:00 2 Jennifer Cannistra
2009-05-11 00:00:00 00:00:00 22 Obama Health care meeting
2009-05-19 09:31:21 10:06:11 3 Sarah Fenn
2009-06-02 15:28:41 16:24:23 6 Sarah Fenn
2009-06-24 18:00:00 00:00:00 131 Clare Gallagher ABC town hall
2009-07-07 14:20:43 15:26:48 8 Jim Messina
2009-07-07 14:20:43 15:26:48 8 Jim Messina
2009-07-22 00:00:00 00:00:00 4 Kristin Sheehy
Cannistra and Obama seem to be the main culprits considering she had a 2 person meeting with him on March 25 for an undisclosed amount of time before Tauzin met with Obama on May 11. She is Policy Analyst and Director of Special Projects, Health and Human Services Department Office of Health Reform (since May 2009).
So the PhRMA deal was pure Obama.
Tauzin is CEO and President of PhRMA.
Actually it would be all of the above.
Edit: Or are you forgetting all those wonderful Energy industry meetings Cheney had early in the Bush years as an example of a White House operation that wound up writing legislation?
I surely would like to forget both them and the creature that held them.
But I, in my foolishness, think that more often we get sold out by the people who can be bought on the cheap and in a quiet restaurant.
Rahm did not meet with Ignagni, President and CEO of AHIP, either. Obama, Larry Summers, Cannistra and Fenn did.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/waves/all/ignagni?order=APPT_START_DATE&sort=asc#visitor-data
Appt Date Arrival Departure #People Visitee Description
2009-03-05 12:30:00 00:00:00 106 Obama
2009-03-06 09:31:15 10:43:43 3 Elizabeth Bafford
2009-03-06 14:26:31 15:32:12 1 Larry Summers
2009-03-11 10:11:23 11:22:17 3 Jennifer Cannistra
2009-05-11 00:00:00 00:00:00 22 Obama Health care meeting
2009-06-30 09:51:37 11:17:40 1 Sarah Fenn
2009-07-24 14:36:16 16:46:35 7 Sarah Fenn
2009-08-06 17:40:38 18:51:37 3 Elizabeth Bafford
2009-09-29 15:03:00 15:37:00 1 Leandra English
Summers had hour long meeting with Ignagni March 6 before Cannistra met Tauzin on March 25 so maybe Larry Summers started all this evil followed by Cannistra and Obama. Obama has bad advisors (Summers, Geithner, Rahm) but it’s ultimately Obama.
As folks have noted, there are no indications that the visit lists that have been released are both totally comprehensive and totally correct.
Emanuel doesn’t show up on any of these lists but Obama, Sarah Fenn, Jim Messina, Jennifer Cannistra, Elizabeth Bafford, Clare Gallagher, Ezekiel Emanuel and Tina Tchen do a lot.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/04/see-the-white-houses-heal_n_277707.html
Sure, that is a possibility. He is COS to POTUS, but only 11 meetings started with him in 60 days.
Yeah, and Rahm just “happening” to stop by those person’s offices while the PhRMA and Big Insurance reps are there would NEVER happen, right?
Thank you Norske, you know I cherish my collection.
;)
Exactly! I am sick and tired of the White House, the Village, and the Congress referring to the MIC as “stakeholders” as if the People were not!
We must resist this bullshit whenever possible. A minor example: If you quote a statement that refers to “stakeholders” insert a “[sic]” immediately following the word.
Remember, as Orwell taught us all long ago, he/she who controls the language controls the outcome.
When is it going to dawn on people that this administration is nothing more than an ‘outfit’.