Comments on: Pelosi And Reid Team Up For Potential Party Suicide Pact

By: realworld

realworld — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:59:55 +0000

You should take any polling Ezra cites with at least a pound of salt. This poll is probably the best at getting at why Brown won. People hate the Senate bill, they see it as a sellout and will not come out to support someone who promises to sell them out.

By: PoliticalCircusBlog

PoliticalCircusBlog — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:21:35 +0000

Can we get Dexter to call the play by play!

By: selise

selise — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:27:53 +0000

yikes! unknown slippery slopes!

…. hilarious youtube. thanks.

By: RBG

RBG — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:15:48 +0000

You and I have always been able to find common ground, even when we might not know how slippery a slope we were trying to walk. On a hopefully funny note, you might want to follow the links back from this comment.

By: selise

selise — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:51:36 +0000

rbg, what you say always makes a difference. even when i disagree with you, i always take what you have to say seriously. i’ve seen enough difficult situations and how you handled them to have formed that opinion long ago.

anyway, thanks for the reply, not that i expected you to do anything one way or the other. if i had any brilliant solutions, i’d be acting on them already. but i don’t. just sometimes i feel the need to voice my pov even if i don’t have a solution. especially if that pov is being excluded from the narrative. thanks.

By: RBG

RBG — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:20:54 +0000

Sorry its taken so long for me to reply, and I completely agree that EPU land is a good place to have this conversation.

I’m not going to get into the details of mod practices in a public thread, but if I said I was not happy with the way any of that occurred, regardless of the original source, would that make a difference?

By: PaulaT

PaulaT — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:12:51 +0000

You can if it’s a Medicare expansion or buy-in.

By: PaulaT

PaulaT — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:12:31 +0000

Get real. Things are less likely to change after the insurance companies have more people mandated into their system. The only thing they wanted from HCR was mandates so they could get new customers without having to actually provide a service people are willing to pay for voluntarily. As long as they don’t have that, you have a negotiation. Once they have what they want, there is no motivation at all for them to do anything but fight future efforts even harder. You make future reform less likely by throwing people into the system in the way that the Senate bill does it. These are not people who can walk away with their dollars if the insurance company doesn’t treat them right.

By: tarheellefty

tarheellefty — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:55:52 +0000

You can’t use reconciliation to create the public option.

By: quidditas

quidditas — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:37:39 +0000

“Anybody else noticing American fascism’s resurgence since the last generation to fight the bastards off began dropping from the twig?”

Yeah, I agree with this. The college mis-educated babyboomers rebelled against their elders in order to redefine fascist to mean “blue collar white guy with pick up truck.”

Not at all surprising that today we have a backlash figured in the form of would-be blue collar white guys in pick up trucks.

The real fascists are somewhere else. Their masks are slipping.

This is a good thing.