Comments on: Harry Reid Slips Lifetime Limit Into Senate Bill

By: 1murillo

1murillo — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:15:24 +0000

I agree that conference is important. However, Reid is trying to skip the conference – supposedly, so that he won’t need 60 votes again – but the House will need to approve of his version. This was in the news several days ago, yet I haven’t heard much more other than Reps saying no meetings have so far occurred.
Pre-existing condition acceptance and no yearly/lifetime limits are basic healthcare needs.

By: sinanju

sinanju — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:01:27 +0000

Well, well…

So you True Believers are finally coming around to realizing that you’re on the menu as well. Well welcome aboard comrades, see you at the next tea party! Being a loyal voting Democrat and writing checks to all the progressive causes does not make you recession-proof after all. Nor will it give you first place in the waiting line at the mammogram wagon.

Your Messiah, the Lord Obama, embraces the Cloward-Piven (which I know you’ve all heard of) strategy of overloading and collapsing the socio-economic system in the apparent faith that a beautiful socialist utopia will arise phoenixlike from the ashes. He and his congressional allies want to pass a bill, any bill that will give government life-and-death power over each and every one of us peasants. It does not really matter what details they have to concede, once state-run healthcare is a fact, everything else can be taken care of by bureaucratic fiat.

Obama is a red-diaper, leftist golem, raised from childhood to believe that the U.S. is a racist/sexist/imperialist criminal enterprise responsible for everything that has ever gone wrong in the world over the past two centuries. In his mind, we ALL deserve to be taken down hard. That includes impoverishing and enslaving us.

Now, you all might be in favor of that in the fashionable faculty-lounge-and-coffee-shop abstract but in the concrete, unfortunately, that means a (short) life of squalor for both yourselves as well as the people you love to hate. And for those of you who believe in human reproduction, it means a short life of squalor for your children and every one of those seven generations to come.

Free-market capitalism may be a messy and occasionally unfair system but as Mr. Churchill said it’s better than all the others.

So, once again, how’s that Hope and Change working out for you?

By: antiutopian

antiutopian — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:40:57 +0000

The problem with current insurance company death panels is that they allow patients to find alternative payment and redress methods, like charities, sales of assets, bank loans, experimental cures, lawsuits, etc. Reid & Pelosi would prefer a system where a death panel guarantees death, especially for the elderly, children, and those physically or mentally handicapped.

By: selise

selise — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:47:11 +0000

check it out. more from Mobilization for Health Care for All and PNHP

'Bodies' delivered to U.S. senators on Human Rights Day Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 By Margaret Flowers On International Human Rights Day, Dec. 10, health professionals and patients delivered cardboard cutout “bodies” to selected U.S. senators here to make visible the number of people who die in the senators’ home states because the nation does not have Medicare for all.

Dr. Laura Boylan, demanding Medicare for All, arrested at Schumer protest Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 From Dr. Laura Boylan I was arrested this morning in an act of peaceful civil disobedience along with a diverse group of seven others, including a medical student and a nurse, similarly passionate about Medicare for All. Ours was one of 17 actions organized by Mobilization for Health Care for All across the country to honor International Human Rights Day. We blocked the doors to Sen. Charles Schumer’s office building.

By: public.takeover

public.takeover — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:34:52 +0000

It seems to me that, in spite of the cold weather, some very serious, well-planned and effective popular demonstrations against the Congress, the White House and their legislative practices are very much in order.

By: TalkingStick

TalkingStick — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:07:27 +0000

I am coming or perhaps have now come to the position that the Senate is incapable of passing any health insurance reform. This most recent tap dancing tells me they are really foundering.

On the positive side; part of the reason I believe is because of how well informed the public is being kept by FDL and other contemporaneously posting outlets.. Pray this long process has inoculated the public, at least partially from buying any of these recent disgraceful versions.

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:48:35 +0000

So Reid apparently is in agreement with the Republicans that “Government Controlled Death Panels BAD, but Private Insurance Company Death Panels…Mmmmm, Mmmmm GOOD!”

By: RevBev

RevBev — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:40:00 +0000

Those were the days, My friend….I thought…..

By: Fractal

Fractal — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:30:23 +0000

Schumer/Menendez/Whitehouse presser was on C-SPAN3, not C-SPAN2 as I wrongly said earlier. Video is now up on C-SPAN website:

Senate Dem presser (about 22 minutes).

I missed Schumer’s opening statement (5 mins.), he defended Medicare, recited history of GOP’s fighting Medicare by calling it socialist medicine, etc. “Medicare IS a public option. If you’re against the government, you’re against Medicare.”

The Q&A with Schumer’s about annual limits on benefits came at 12:30 to 13:15. He said “I believe” the annual limits are “very, very high” and that “there is no lifetime limit.” But he didn’t know how high the limits are.

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:22:07 +0000

Yep, Wally played Mr Peepers. Showin’ me age. *g* I remember Howdy Doody, too.