The new excise tax on employer-provided health insurance will result in most people getting worse health insurance from their employer, insurance that covers less. That is just not my conclusion, it is the conclusion of the CMS.
In reaction to the tax, many employers would reduce the scope of their health benefits. The resulting reductions in covered services and/or increases in employee cost-sharing requirements would induce workers to use fewer services. Because plan benefit values would generally increase faster than the threshold amounts for defining high-cost plans (which are indexed by the CPI plus 1 percent), over time additional plans would become subject to the excise tax, prompting those employers to scale back coverage.
To translate, your employer will reduce what your current insurance plan and put in place high co-pays and deductibles. The result is that many people with employer-provided health insurance will see their insurance get much worse. For younger, healthier employees, possibly getting less comprehensive insurance but maybe higher wages (I think it is very doubtful that there is a pure dollar for dollar passthrough), this might be a decent deal. For older, less healthy employees this is a very bad deal. They will be forced to pay much more out-of-pocket for their health care.
So, why would Obama push so hard to make people’s current health insurance worse?
The tax would be 40 pecent of the excess benefit value above these thresholds. We estimate that, in aggregate, affected employers would reduce their benefit packages in such a way as to eliminate about three-quarters of the current excess benefit value. The resulting higher cost-sharing requirements for employees would have an initial, significant impact on the overall level of health expenditures. Moreover, because health care costs would generally increase faster than the CPI plus 1 percent, we anticipate additional, incremental benefit coverage reductions in future years to prevent an increase in the share of employer coverage subject to the excise tax. These further adjustments would contribute to a small reduction in the growth in health care expenditures for affected employees through at least 2019.16 In 2019, these impacts would reduce total NHE by an estimated 0.3 percent.
That’s it, or at least Obama’s lame excuse for wanting it. This excise tax, which would reduce the quality of millions of Americans’ health insurance coverage, will technically “bend the cost curve” by just barely 0.3% in 2019. All that for a measly 0.3% reduction in national health expenditures. To give you a comparison, CBO projects that Dorgan’s drug re-importation would reduce spending on prescription drugs roughly $100 billion over the next decade (I think the savings could easily end up 4-5 times that amount). A $10 billion reduction in prescription drug spending compared to the total NHE spending last year, which was roughly $2.4 trillion in 2008, would be a 0.4% reduction in NHE.
Dorgan’s bipartisan drug re-importation amendment would reduce NHE by basically as much as this excise tax. Except Dorgan’s amendment would reduce American’s out-of-pocket spending on health care, and not increase it like the excise tax. If this excise tax is the core of the plan to “bend the cost curve,” it is a failure. If the government took the simple and small step of using its size to negotiate better drug prices for all Americans (like every other industrialized nation), it would do dramatically more to reduce NHE than this excise tax that will reduce the quality of insurance for millions of Americans.





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Ezra had a good Op-Ed about how higher HC costs eat away at wages. I’m biased because I’m younger and healhy, but it really sucks that most of my compesation increases goes to HC rather than my wages.
Between the huge preference in polls for a high income surtax over a “cadillac plan ” tax, and the support of unions, I think the final pay-fors will more closely resemble the House version than the Senate version.
If that tax goes through, and my plan is affected, I’m intending to downgrade to a less expensive plan. I already pay more so that I don’t have to get referrals, because I see what people go through trying to get them and then get them approved.
There’s no way that I could afford another tax that size.
There is nothing in this bill worth supporting given all of it’s flaws. It is just one more of many sell-outs and is probably te last straw for many of us. At this point I am resigned that the Dems are really just a bunch of lemmings and I for one will not follow them off the cliff. Once the rethugs take back power, which is inevitable at this rate, things will get bad enough so that perhaps there will be a resurgence of the progressives that will be strong enough to finally bring about the decorporatizing of the state and we can get real change. But I’m not going to hold my breath….
I just want to take to the street and chant Medicare For Everybody Now.
Is this a tax on all health benefits, or just what they think are “cadillac” benefits? How do they calculate it?
What is the MATTER with those people, anyway?????
I’m going to wait for mikesong to ‘splain the benefits of this thing. I want to see benefits, and mikesong will help me see the light and be greatful to Obama for his love and compassion for me.
Query:
OK.
These further adjustments would contribute to a small reduction in the growth in health care expenditures for affected employees. . . .
Is that overall expenditures? By everyone? Or just my expenditures? ’cause if it’s overall, aren’t my out-of-pocket still going to be higher? This is probably the worst thing fro me personally out of the whole thing so far. The news all day long today has just been one big shit storm that’s gotten worser and worser.
Can’t wait to see how Obama tries to sell this piece of shit as “reform”.
this fucks me up. just what i need. hate to say it, but Obama’s an asshole.
By analogy, I listened thru the McChrystalball and Imaberry testimony. It is very clear they have a plan, just like O has a “plan” for HCR. It is not at all clear that any of these plans will work, and, in fact, an odds on favorite that they won’t. But what-the-hay, there’s a plan. And that seems to be the only objective.
really. bill sucks it dry, man.
Hey, W sold shit as gold despite being tongue twisted. If O can’t do a victory lap on this POS, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle. Ditto Reid & Pelosi. You forget the power of the village bubble.
or how he’s going to explain the massive rally in healthcare shares on the day the bill is signed into law. “It’s win-win for all!” he’ll probably say.
I want a mulligan…
I’m all good!
I’ve got the McCain/Palin devil in the hole, and the love of
JesusObama in my hand, – or sumthin’It feels as if they have jumped from one thing to another. Health care, global warming, Wall Street, and a trip to this country and that country. It’s like a magician doing something with his left hand so you won’t notice the right hand. I think I plan doing my laundry better than their plans.
And the magician’s trick will work. It will be quite awhile before the low info voter figures out it all a POS.
we’re gonna hear from the R loons that it’s a “government take over of ___% of the economy” and from the Dems that it’s the best thing to happen in health care since — ever. but people are gonna find out soon enough they’re getting shit from their carriers.
It’ll take years for the ones who are not brainwashed by the R of the L to figure out whether it is good or bad for themselves.
and boy what great outcomes:
healthcare: F
global warming: I see no way he can push it through Congress whatever he negotiates in Copenhagen, but too early to actually assign a grade yet.. so just a INC and a warning
wall street: F
employee free choice: F
stimulus: D
financial reform: again, no way he’s getting it past Congress, so INC and another warning
diplomacy: B-
closing gitmo/stopping torture: D- (is that grade?)
public speaking: A
Unjust patient protection. Cut costs of health care by cutting our services and benefits already bargained?
Enough to make one sick.
Cap all the damn health industry profits instead. Provide health care services Americans need for minimal profit or get out of the business and leave it to non-profit.
Ditto when Obama talks similar crap on entitlements and debts (lay it on the profiteers instead of the victims) as he commits us to war evermore- the global “enforcers” and just wars for multinational oil corporations.
I’m relatively young, but neither my spouse or I have very good health. Like another poster above I took the most expensive plan available so we could see specialists (mental health for me, oncologist for her).
The past 3 years I have had perfect reviews at my job and raises of 1-2%. Every other bit goes to my employer covering their part of ever larger premiums for my PPO plan. I’m totally expecting them to drop that option or negotiate a higher co-pay if this legislation goes through.
I can’t afford an excise tax like this. I could have gone bankrupt last year from a $3000 bill for a routine colonoscopy (we’d already exhausted our HSA on drug co-pays and mental health deductibles). If this stupid bill goes through with this, I will either have to dip into my very meager retirement savings or try to sell my house that I saved for 10 years to get the down payment for.
I don’t know how people that have worse paying jobs than mine can pull it off honestly. Everything I read about this bill makes me sick (no pun intended).
Why is Obama ignoring the obvious? Health care costs soared when the insurance companies (BC/BS, etc.) went from non-profit to for profit and when HMOs reared their ugly heads. Remember how they were supposed to cut costs?
In any for profit business, profits come before everything and are rarely cut unless it is a life or death decision for the business. This is as it should be for a business.
The point is, however, that health care is a vital service and the non-profit model served everyone well for a very long time keeping costs in check. The upward cost spiral/downward service spiral can be directly linked to the birth of HMOs and other for profit health and health insurance systems.
Just the opinion of a retired old guy.
Baracken Promises!
“It’s the rich wot gets the money
It’s the poor wot gets the blame
The working class can kiss my ass
I’ve got the foreman’s job at last”
Is an old refrain. Obama’s job, running for president, is complete. He now is enjoying the perks of retirement, at taxpayer expense, with people fawning over him and catering to his every wish, and kissing him on all four cheeks.
We need to take back control of congress. I disagree with Citizen Jane, as much as I admire her and agree with her on many points, on her programme to run progressives in many districts. This addresses a symptom of the problem, not the root cause.
The root cause is that we, the taxpayer, pay our congress critters much, mcuh less than they earn from their PAC (Corporate) paymasters. The solution, in my opinion, is to buy them back.
When you control a significant part of their wallet, the votes of the honest politicians will follow. “An honest politician?” you say, with some disbelief.
Yes, an honest politician. One who remains faithful to those who pay.
We have honest politicians; their paymaster are not their constituents, which generates the lies an deceit to get re-elected.
If that tax goes through, and my plan is affected, I’m intending to downgrade to a less expensive plan. Freedomfromtaxes.com suggests you to take advantage of Affiliate Program, which pays you generously (and tax-free!) for customers.