If you ever wonder why the media does not pay a lot of attention to the House of Representatives, here is why.
Pelosi said there’s “not much” chance the House will simply take up the Senate bill (a process known informally as “ping ponging”) but that differences between the two packages will be resolved in a conference between the two chambers.
“We haven’t seen their bill,” she said. “We don’t know what their amendment process will be. But we would like to see a full conference.”
What the hell, Pelosi!?! there is “not much” chance and you would “like” to see a full conference. Your answer as head of what was meant to be the most important part of our government should have been, “Hell No.” This is the single most consequential bill in decades. It was meant to address one of the longest-held goals of the Democratic party. Are you seriously thinking about maybe letting the Senate write the whole bill with zero input from the House?
If you let this happen, your next floor action should be a Constitutional Amendment to abolish the House of Representatives. If the Speaker of the House is not going to stand up for the institution’s rights, it might as well be eliminated.
It is amazing how far our democracy is from what is outlined in the Constitution. Hugely important bills are now being completely written in the Senate with a new, completely unconstitutional, defacto super-majority rule, and sent straight to the House for only a rubber stamp. It is like watching the historic British march to true representative Democracy–in reverse.
Our House of Lords (the Senate) keeps getting more byzantine, presuming more rights, and grabbing more power, while our House of Commons (the House of Representatives) withers into a purely symbolic vestigial chamber with no real power.
This is even bigger than health care reform. This is about our future as a Democracy. If the members of the House will not go crazy about this huge power grab by the Senate, it is truly a dark day for American democracy. The fact that reporters need to even ask the question, “Will there be a conference committee?” is sickening to me as an American.



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SINGLE PAYER ADVOCATES HAVE ENTERED THE OFFICE OF SENATOR VOINOVICH AND ARE DEMANDING THAT HE SUPPORT AN EXPANSION OF MEDICARE! CALL NOW AND MAKE THE FOLLOWING DEMANDS! PHONE NUMBERS, FAX NUMBERS, AND SCRIPTS BELOW:
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1st, There is NOTHING bigger than HealthCare this term, this a once ib thirty years opportunity. 2nd, what you call to our attention re: the House is old news. It’s been uncomfortably stuck in Dick Chaney’s craw for decades. So, Jon, what’s really up?
Have you finally reached your exasperation point with HealthCare? I would hope so, I can’t imagine how you lasted so long. Have you come to realize our feckless Dems are every bit as corrupt as the Repubs we put out of power? Sorry, but this also is not new news. Personally, I read you regularly, & agree, for us it’s all about sharing real pertinent info. & making informed decisions. Unfortunately, we’re in the minority.
Life goes on, hopefully not for the Democratic Party, but for the rest of us who are lucky enough to not be ruined by our current healthcare system.
Jane, listen up: Give Jon a few very well earned days off & pick a new cause because our HealthCare opportunity ended the moment they somehow got Rockefeller to sign on. Jon, thx, you couldn’t have done more or better.
I hope this will get the focus it deserves. On climate change, on jobs, on banks, secrecy, wars, anything, the House of Lords has rendered the lower House moot. They’re just the warmup act. Restoring majority rule needs to become an issue in its own right.
Just to play devil’s advocate (again?), I would presume that there’s no better way to blow up the negotiations in the Senate than for Pelosi to say, “Whatever the Senate agrees to is dead on arrival, because we’re going to have a conference committee and insist on our version of the public option.”
The moment that happens, the next step is for Lieberman, Nelson, et al. to say publicly they’ll block the bill unless Reid guarantees in writing not to change the Senate language in conference.
Which, of course, they may do anyway. And, of course, reconciliation might avoid much of this nonsense. But still. :-)
I’ve been referring to DiFi as The Duchess of California for a while now.
Why on earth would it? There’s Tiger Woods’s texts to talk about.
She did not need to go that far. Just say of course there will be a conference committee that is how legislation is done.
Pelosi’s a gutless wonder, as is Harry Reid. Both need to replaced by the caucuses this January.
But we’ve already had this discussion and conclusion: when Mike Stark asked Madame Nancy if the Constitution is worth defending, in that conference call a few years back. What was her dumbass answer: “Well, yes, if we can.” something about as simpleton and equivocal.
Let’s face it. It’s not possible to get any sicker than we all are today. They gutted it all. When it comes to balance of power, limits on authority, meaningful opposition, and preserving & protecting the rights of the people, the Democrats have more or less clear-cutted the whole forest. Not too many old trees left standing.
I do not say this blithely: Once the Cinton Democrats killed off Howard Dean, and kicked his bottom-up wily-notions into oblivion, rapidly returning top-down command & control to its rightful place on the throne, the biggest threat to the status quo of the past 50 years — and the single force most likely to move American in a significantly new, corrected direction that defines the next 50 years or even 100 — was snipped at the root.
They couldn’t kill the root; but though the Dean Progressive root has grown, and remains untainted by DailyKos-style centrism, the field has substantial overgrowth of the hard to kill off centrist weed, crowding out and stunting progressive growth.
I don’t see America correcting, that is, I don’t see an ability now for America to correct itself. The power has concentrated again, and even though the charade of oppositional politics continues to play out with our leading goofballs Reid and Madame, the amount of energy and tireless effort to continue to seed progressive change, to fight that battle again next year, or in 2 years, or in 4 years, to me seems misapplied.
I actually take this literally. More or less. We don’t have the power to abolish the House or the Senate, but I believe the focus on trying to influence that system is just not capable of producing the escape velocity needed to finally legislate what this country needs.
I believe a community like this one could be the right one to begin a parallel focus on what I call “para-government”. A progressive structure that chooses to exist in parallel to the formal government we have. It’s really time to have a summit, begin a task force to plan for a workable methodology to develop a true platform, a realistic vision for the future that charts out the next year, 2years, 5 years, 10 years, 25 years, 50 years. But in an unrestricted thinking manner. Then begin to operate like a business with a mission, and shift all fundraising to internal operations of this thinktank and 50-state para-government structure, most likely anchored by the old Meetup Leaders from the Dean campaign.
I could go on, but this is not the place.
But I did read this blog post title and decide to explain that I’ve put a lot of planning work into such a para-government structure. To be clear, it is the antithesis of a third party. It is a complete break from the model we currently use to try to influence a corrupt and seemingly impenetrable system. I call this parallel structure “i-org”, which stands for the Interorg.
P.S. I just want to add: Over the past 6-7 years I have met a lot of people who self-identify as liberal or Democrat or progressive. By far, most are not progressive. But I wanted to say that the people I met cross-country and worked with for 2 years on the Dean campaign in 03-04, then for several years after, are probably the finest specimens of people I have met in my life. They’re the real thing. The people that take commitment seriously, and mean what they say.
There. Now I am done. I’ve never written this anywhere before. Now I have and I feel better that it exists as a statement somewhere.
The House is occupied by petit-senators, not commoners. Get rid of the parties and bring back property qualifications/ disqualifications.
In colonial MA, the assembly could “ostracize” (from Greek democracy) representatives the body deemed no longer represented the interests of the people. Ostracized representatives went to serve in the upper house, keeping the government more properly balanced.
What John Adams feared would happen with a unicameral legislature has pretty much happened under the party system. Moneyed elites have taken control of everything and those who seek to represent the interests of commoners are effectively “ostracized” within each party and in both houses.
Of course, I’m not sure how this would work today. Today, it may be too easy to buy out representatives irregardless of their background. That so many American live hand to mouth and are toast without their paychecks can not have done otherwise than to facilitate a shocking lack of integrity in the workplace–so long as that’s what upper management decides it wants. Mortgage originations, for instance.
Or, to put it another way–in what fantasy land is Nancy Pelosi “a commoner”? In what fantasy land is she even most people’s idea of a “democrat”?
Another way to approach this might be to force the Republican party to integrate so that well off women and non-white people, all culturally driven politicians, can properly represent their own interests in the Rockefellar Republican party rather than hijacking the House of Commons in the age of party politics.
I’m totally serious about this. I’ve had it. How does it happen that Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein and all their ilk can hijack the Democratic Party rather than having to do the hard work of integrating the Republicans?
We need to start asking these questions. I see plenty of women in the Republican Party at local level. These are more or less the same people who give me dirty looks when I go to vote in the Dem Primary.
They know where their interests lie–why are we still stuck with Nancy and Dianne?
spelling suggestion: trysts instead of texts?
unless you meant text messaging