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	<title>Comments on: One Voice For Choice: Changing Minds One Phone Call At A Time</title>
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		<title>By: Marta Evry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marta Evry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. And thank you to everyone who came out to phone bank. 

Oddly, this makes our work even more important. Because it means the only the Stupak/Pitts amendment remains. And that means the only thing standing in it&#039;s way is US. We need to redouble our efforts.

Please sign up to go to one of our phone banks. And if you don&#039;t see one in your area, please go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onevoiceforchoice.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.onevoiceforchoice.com&lt;/a&gt; to learn how you set up yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. And thank you to everyone who came out to phone bank. </p>
<p>Oddly, this makes our work even more important. Because it means the only the Stupak/Pitts amendment remains. And that means the only thing standing in it&#8217;s way is US. We need to redouble our efforts.</p>
<p>Please sign up to go to one of our phone banks. And if you don&#8217;t see one in your area, please go to <a href="http://www.onevoiceforchoice.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.onevoiceforchoice.com</a> to learn how you set up yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Marta Evry</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/08/one-voice-for-choice-changing-minds-one-phone-call-at-a-time/#comment-65998</link>
		<dc:creator>Marta Evry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Lois Herr is holding a phone bank! Are you going? It&#039;s next Monday night</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Lois Herr is holding a phone bank! Are you going? It&#8217;s next Monday night</p>
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		<title>By: jeffroby</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/08/one-voice-for-choice-changing-minds-one-phone-call-at-a-time/#comment-65996</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffroby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t just 64 Democrats who voted for Stupak.  Practically the entire Democratic House bloc voted for it, in the House version of the bill.  And we settle for angry phone calls?  Bullshit.  There is a tactic being developed, called the Full Court Press (http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16324) which would go after ALL of them.  It&#039;s not enough to punish individuals.  The Democratic Party passed this House version, and its the entire party that has to pay.  We can&#039;t let them say, &quot;punish Stupak, not me!&quot;  If liberals dems don&#039;t want to take heat, let them turn the heat on Stupak, et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t just 64 Democrats who voted for Stupak.  Practically the entire Democratic House bloc voted for it, in the House version of the bill.  And we settle for angry phone calls?  Bullshit.  There is a tactic being developed, called the Full Court Press (<a href="http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16324" rel="nofollow">http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16324</a>) which would go after ALL of them.  It&#8217;s not enough to punish individuals.  The Democratic Party passed this House version, and its the entire party that has to pay.  We can&#8217;t let them say, &#8220;punish Stupak, not me!&#8221;  If liberals dems don&#8217;t want to take heat, let them turn the heat on Stupak, et al.</p>
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		<title>By: powwow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/08/one-voice-for-choice-changing-minds-one-phone-call-at-a-time/#comment-65993</link>
		<dc:creator>powwow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And &lt;b&gt;the Nelson/Hatch/Casey amendment has been successfully tabled into oblivion&lt;/b&gt;, by a simple-majority vote of 54-45.

Mr. Ben Nelson just got &lt;b&gt;his&lt;/b&gt; bluff to filibuster the final health care bill &lt;b&gt;called&lt;/b&gt; by his Democratic leadership...

&lt;b&gt;Take a well-deserved bow, and give yourselves a pat on the back, One Voice For Choice phone-bankers&lt;/b&gt;.  The Senate&#039;s Nelson abortion amendment, at least, is no more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And <b>the Nelson/Hatch/Casey amendment has been successfully tabled into oblivion</b>, by a simple-majority vote of 54-45.</p>
<p>Mr. Ben Nelson just got <b>his</b> bluff to filibuster the final health care bill <b>called</b> by his Democratic leadership&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Take a well-deserved bow, and give yourselves a pat on the back, One Voice For Choice phone-bankers</b>.  The Senate&#8217;s Nelson abortion amendment, at least, is no more.</p>
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		<title>By: powwow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/08/one-voice-for-choice-changing-minds-one-phone-call-at-a-time/#comment-65979</link>
		<dc:creator>powwow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C-SPAN was correct.

Just now, Harry Reid finished some remarks on the health care legislation by saying that he would not let anything get in the way of this &#039;historic&#039; legislation, and then yielded the floor.  Whereupon Barbara Boxer immediately propounded a Unanimous Consent Request to shortly vote on a McCain motion to commit, requiring it to receive &lt;b&gt;60 votes&lt;/b&gt; to pass, which was agreed to, and then Boxer moved &lt;b&gt;to table&lt;/b&gt; the Nelson amendment.

The vote on the motion to table (rather than on the Nelson amendment itself) is now underway.

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_rm.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C-SPAN was correct.</p>
<p>Just now, Harry Reid finished some remarks on the health care legislation by saying that he would not let anything get in the way of this &#8216;historic&#8217; legislation, and then yielded the floor.  Whereupon Barbara Boxer immediately propounded a Unanimous Consent Request to shortly vote on a McCain motion to commit, requiring it to receive <b>60 votes</b> to pass, which was agreed to, and then Boxer moved <b>to table</b> the Nelson amendment.</p>
<p>The vote on the motion to table (rather than on the Nelson amendment itself) is now underway.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_rm.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_rm.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see so many people who care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see so many people who care!</p>
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		<title>By: martine</title>
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		<dc:creator>martine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marta, remember to call it the Stupak-PITTS Amendment.  Do not absolve the GOP of this grave assault on reproductive choice.  Both Stupak and Pitts are members of the Family, but Pitts is Stupak&#039;s mentor.

And Pitts&#039; opponent, Lois Herr, is a stalwart progressive pro-choice activist!  She&#039;s the one having the phonebank in Elizabethtown, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marta, remember to call it the Stupak-PITTS Amendment.  Do not absolve the GOP of this grave assault on reproductive choice.  Both Stupak and Pitts are members of the Family, but Pitts is Stupak&#8217;s mentor.</p>
<p>And Pitts&#8217; opponent, Lois Herr, is a stalwart progressive pro-choice activist!  She&#8217;s the one having the phonebank in Elizabethtown, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: powwow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/08/one-voice-for-choice-changing-minds-one-phone-call-at-a-time/#comment-65971</link>
		<dc:creator>powwow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of &quot;He did WHAT?&quot; moments, and Harry Reid...  A whip-lashing bit of parliamentary dodgeball may be about to twist things around in the Senate.

According to a statement that&#039;s been posted on-screen by C-SPAN for awhile (but not based on anything I myself have witnessed on the Senate floor), &lt;b&gt;the Nelson/Hatch/Casey abortion amendment will be privileged to receive a simple-majority vote&lt;/b&gt; - as either a form of test vote, or else in an effort to &quot;dispose of it&quot; (in Harry Reid&#039;s parlance) - instead of a 60-vote-margin for passage as all other roll-call amendment votes on this bill (even those with simple-majority Democratic support) have thus far been subject to &lt;i&gt;by unanimous consent&lt;/i&gt;.  

The whiplash part is that the quite-drastic Party-power-exerting method of &lt;b&gt;a motion to table&lt;/b&gt; (meaning to kill, without an up-or-down vote) the amendment - a motion that needs only a simple-majority vote to succeed, or fail - is (again, according to C-SPAN) the chosen approach to achieve this - an approach generally used to kill, along Party-lines, proposed amendments &lt;i&gt;without requiring Senators to take a vote on the actual amendment itself&lt;/i&gt;.

Chris Dodd also stated on the floor within the last hour or two, that the Nelson abortion amendment will be a &quot;conscience&quot; vote - not a &quot;caucus&quot; vote whipped by the Party - for which he thanked the leadership (yet motions to table, as a rule, I think, would be considered &quot;caucus&quot; votes).

I&#039;m assuming, though prepared to be whip-lashed back in the other direction if this assumption is shown to be wrong, that this was necessary for those behind the scenes either &lt;b&gt;in favor&lt;/b&gt; of this amendment, or just wondering how much support it&#039;s going to get and/or wishing to see the back of it, perhaps because Unanimous Consent from all &lt;b&gt;Democrats&lt;/b&gt; was finally (privately) refused, with regard to agreeing to a 60-vote-margin for passage of the Nelson amendment (presumably by Nelson and/or others), and a simple majority up-or-down floor vote also couldn&#039;t be obtained without delay (also due presumably to private anti-Nelson &lt;b&gt;Democratic&lt;/b&gt; objections).  

Motions to table have precedence over Senate action to amend, as here listed in highest-to-lowest order in &lt;a href=&quot;http://rules.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=RulesOfSenate.View&amp;Rule_id=b53f00ae-eaf3-4382-a827-097360cb1c93&amp;CFID=24980174&amp;CFTOKEN=99393562&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rule 22&lt;/a&gt; of the Standing Rules of the Senate:

&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;b&gt;1. When a question is pending, no motion shall be received but&lt;/b&gt;

To adjourn.

To adjourn to a day certain, or that when the Senate adjourn it shall be to a day certain.

To take a recess.

To proceed to the consideration of executive business.

&lt;b&gt;To lay on the table.&lt;/b&gt;

To postpone indefinitely.

To postpone to a day certain.

To commit.

To amend.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Furthermore, such motions are &lt;b&gt;undebatable&lt;/b&gt;, and therefore may not be filibustered, like an amendment can be:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Which several motions shall have precedence as they stand arranged; and the motions relating to adjournment, to take a recess, to proceed to the consideration of executive business, to lay on the table, &lt;b&gt;shall be decided without debate.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of &#8220;He did WHAT?&#8221; moments, and Harry Reid&#8230;  A whip-lashing bit of parliamentary dodgeball may be about to twist things around in the Senate.</p>
<p>According to a statement that&#8217;s been posted on-screen by C-SPAN for awhile (but not based on anything I myself have witnessed on the Senate floor), <b>the Nelson/Hatch/Casey abortion amendment will be privileged to receive a simple-majority vote</b> &#8211; as either a form of test vote, or else in an effort to &#8220;dispose of it&#8221; (in Harry Reid&#8217;s parlance) &#8211; instead of a 60-vote-margin for passage as all other roll-call amendment votes on this bill (even those with simple-majority Democratic support) have thus far been subject to <i>by unanimous consent</i>.  </p>
<p>The whiplash part is that the quite-drastic Party-power-exerting method of <b>a motion to table</b> (meaning to kill, without an up-or-down vote) the amendment &#8211; a motion that needs only a simple-majority vote to succeed, or fail &#8211; is (again, according to C-SPAN) the chosen approach to achieve this &#8211; an approach generally used to kill, along Party-lines, proposed amendments <i>without requiring Senators to take a vote on the actual amendment itself</i>.</p>
<p>Chris Dodd also stated on the floor within the last hour or two, that the Nelson abortion amendment will be a &#8220;conscience&#8221; vote &#8211; not a &#8220;caucus&#8221; vote whipped by the Party &#8211; for which he thanked the leadership (yet motions to table, as a rule, I think, would be considered &#8220;caucus&#8221; votes).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming, though prepared to be whip-lashed back in the other direction if this assumption is shown to be wrong, that this was necessary for those behind the scenes either <b>in favor</b> of this amendment, or just wondering how much support it&#8217;s going to get and/or wishing to see the back of it, perhaps because Unanimous Consent from all <b>Democrats</b> was finally (privately) refused, with regard to agreeing to a 60-vote-margin for passage of the Nelson amendment (presumably by Nelson and/or others), and a simple majority up-or-down floor vote also couldn&#8217;t be obtained without delay (also due presumably to private anti-Nelson <b>Democratic</b> objections).  </p>
<p>Motions to table have precedence over Senate action to amend, as here listed in highest-to-lowest order in <a href="http://rules.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=RulesOfSenate.View&amp;Rule_id=b53f00ae-eaf3-4382-a827-097360cb1c93&amp;CFID=24980174&amp;CFTOKEN=99393562" rel="nofollow">Rule 22</a> of the Standing Rules of the Senate:</p>
<blockquote><p>
<b>1. When a question is pending, no motion shall be received but</b></p>
<p>To adjourn.</p>
<p>To adjourn to a day certain, or that when the Senate adjourn it shall be to a day certain.</p>
<p>To take a recess.</p>
<p>To proceed to the consideration of executive business.</p>
<p><b>To lay on the table.</b></p>
<p>To postpone indefinitely.</p>
<p>To postpone to a day certain.</p>
<p>To commit.</p>
<p>To amend.</p></blockquote>
<p>Furthermore, such motions are <b>undebatable</b>, and therefore may not be filibustered, like an amendment can be:</p>
<blockquote><p>Which several motions shall have precedence as they stand arranged; and the motions relating to adjournment, to take a recess, to proceed to the consideration of executive business, to lay on the table, <b>shall be decided without debate.</b></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jon Walker</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/08/one-voice-for-choice-changing-minds-one-phone-call-at-a-time/#comment-65964</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He did what? classic, just classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did what? classic, just classic.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will be at the SF phonebank on Sunday.  Looking forward to more calls like yours!  &quot;He did WHAT?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be at the SF phonebank on Sunday.  Looking forward to more calls like yours!  &#8220;He did WHAT?&#8221;</p>
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