The newest “alternative” to the public health insurance option is neither public, health insurance, nor an alternative option to private insurance companies. From what I’ve been able to determine about this worthless proposal, all it does is give the director of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) some vague power to try to negotiate with private non-profit insurance companies for a slightly better bargain.
There appeared to be serious consideration of a new proposal on the table: a national health plan similar to the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan, which provides insurance to members of Congress and federal workers. It would be administered by the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees the federal plan, and all of the insurance options would be not-for-profit.
This is not a public insurance entity competing with the existing private insurance companies. This will do nothing to inject competition into concentrated markets. This will not ensure the government provides people with at least one decent insurance plan structured to promote the public good. In the long run, this will not change how the insurance market operates or help rein in our out-of-control health care costs. (The FEHBP has been a failure on the cost controlling front.)
From what little reporting there is about this proposal (here and here), it seems the idea is basically to create another national exchange as an alternative to the state-based exchanges, or another slightly better exchange run by OPM within the basically useless state-based exchanges. I don’t know what is more sickening; the fact that Democrats will try to slap the word “public option” on existing private insurance coverage and hope everyone is too stupid to notice, or the fact that the current state-based exchanges are such terrible pro-insurance, anti-consumer marketplaces that some senators think an acceptable “alternative” is another exchange designed slightly better.
This “alternative” does not even vaguely resemble a public option. It is simply a marketplace where the OPM will negotiate with private non-profit insurance companies to try to get slightly better deals for people using the program. You will still be forced to buy expensive insurance from the same private insurance companies that have failed us so far. It will not inject any competition into concentrated insurance markets. This is only an exchange. This is similar to how the national exchange is designed in the House bill. This is how the exchanges would have been designed in the Senate bill — until Max Baucus and Olympia Snowe removed every consumer value protection.
The Democrats better start acting like they at least care about regular Americans more than the health insurance corporations. Dropping the incredibly popular public option, which would bring down the cost for the government and for regular Americans, because the private insurance companies, Republicans, and Joe Lieberman demanded it is not going to rally the base. Making the “alternative” needed to win over Snowe merely fixing a few of the problems with the exchange that she herself caused does not sound like victory. If elected Democrats insist on putting a Republican in charge, don’t be shocked when the Democratic base has zero reason to turn out in 2010. After all, a vote for a Republican is a vote for Republican leadership, and a vote for a Democrat is also a vote for Republican leadership.
Update – Jacob Hacker has more and came to basically the same conclusion about this non-compromise.
Employees Health Benefit Plan (FEHBP) within the exchange. Since the FEHBP is itself a form of exchange, this amounts to offer a new set of private plans within a new set of private plans. How is that going to provide real pressure on private insurers in a consolidated insurance market in which nonprofit plans already have a large presence (and often act little differently from for-profit plans)?
In short, the new compromise proposals are anything but. They represent calls for advocates of the public plan to eat their crumbs and be happy. But a majority of Senators support the public plan. At least two–Senator Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont and Senator Burris of Illinois–have said having a real public plan in the legislation is a precondition for their support. Those who believe in the public plan—and, more important, who believe in the principle it embodies: that no American who lacks access to good insurance should be forced to buy coverage from the private plans that got us into our present mess–should stand firm in the face of these non-compromises.




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One explanation for the confusion here is that so many members of Congress (Senate and House) don’t even understand their own health care plan, much less the system as a whole.
I’ve heard many Democrats, in interviews, describe the FEHBP as “government-run health care.” That may be an accurate characterization of the in-house Congressional physician’s office, but not of the general plan options in the FEHBP exchange (as Mr Walker points out).
This just emphasized the fact that the system, and all attempts to reform it, are too complex for even conscientious legislators to understand. These ridiculous attempts to balance the interests of the “stakeholders” (that is, the corporations and practitioners sucking up all the money) are doomed to failure and will certainly betray the interests of the nation and its general citizenry.
Total balls-up. The reform effort deserves to fail, and the Congress deserves the public rage that would be generated.
Single payer is the only answer, but it’s too late to start over now.
Sherrod Brown says he’ll vote against a bill which trashes the public option, but he HASN’T said he’ll filibuster; which means that the right is playing hardball while the left is throwing nerf balls.
God, how these shit-stains in congress (not to mention the White House) disgust me.
That’s because Brown has 55 Senators who have his back, while Lieberman has 3. That means they play their cards a little differently.
You might as well face the fact that this thing has no chance in hell of passing if the public option is still in there. This bill loses the support of at least four people with a government public option, but that doesn’t really matter because it can’t lose even one.
I will be extremely curious to see how those on this site react if the public option is removed and this bill is passed without it. I would be willing to bet everything I own that there would be grumbling for a few months and then this site, along with every other site that has advocated for a public option, will be pointing to the non-public option bill as a great success and a reason to vote for Dems in 2010. I would be willing to stake my life on it because, in the end, party affiliation will trump principle in the polling booth. The Dems could pass a bill, under the aegis of health care reform, that only stated that men named Bill must wear red hats on every other Friday in months with more than five letters and people would be satisfied, as long as it is called “health care reform” or “health insurance reform” or whatever other ridiculous euphemism is popular this month. The Senate leadership has counted on that fact from the very beginning.
This is what it was always going to be. The Dems have once again screwed the pooch. They have only proven that they are completely clueless. They cannot govern even with a huge majority in both houses and the White House. Hopefully, Jane has come to the realization that the “progressives” in the House who “signed up to defeat” any bill without a public option will also flip flop on their statements.
This piece of shit will be signed by the President and they will convince all of us that they have passed Health Care for All. What we will get is the requirement to purchase health insurance from the Blues, Aetna, etc. with no chance of competition. The insurance companies will be laughing all the way to the bank.
I only hope that the Dems have enjoyed their short time in the majority because they have pissed away the chance to actually accomplish something.
This is “The public is optional” plan.
Darn, I was hopin’ we could keep talking about the hypocrisy from the CLIMATEGATE apostles and disciples:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/06/copenhagen-carbon-load-1200-limos-140-private-jets/#comments
California ends subsidy for mammograms for women under 50.
I don’t have a problem with this, but it probably will become a shebang.
It should be called healthcare to screw the public option.
I hope you are wrong. Not all of us are Yellow Dogs.
Personally, I am one who has already made the break and resigned all my leadership positions.
Well, what would you have this site do? Endorse the republican party??? For the love of gawd.
It is absolutely nothing even kinda like a real Democratic controlled Senate and certainly nothing even kinda like a real President who will live up to what he campaigned. Short changed all round. So should not expect anything like a real Public Option or REAL health care reform.
Wow, real Democrats don’t usually link to HotAir.
I knew it was coming when I saw no opposition to the report from Democrats. What the hell? It will only add to the deaths from breast cancer by abot 15% — the study’s figures. Disgusting.
Got a link? I’m one who doesn’t get radiated at every turn. I don’t let the dentist take xrays every year either.
Although, be clear, if women have breast cancer in the family, it’s different.
An exchange on an exchange? Oh brother. They actually took a Republican idea and figured out a way to make it worse. CA Republican Congressman Darrell Issa proposed something similar a few months ago.
H.R.3438 – Access to Insurance for all Americans Act
To amend title 5, United States Code, to establish a national health program administered by the Office of Personnel Management to offer Federal employee health benefits plans to individuals who are not Federal employees, and for other purposes
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3438/text
For the love of Benji, why don’t they just open up the existing public option plan to the general public? And yes, it uses Medicare provider rates (as well as VA pharma pricing).
ARLINGTON, Va., (8/12/09) — Many of the estimated millions of Americans without health insurance are that way because they can’t afford the premiums. It’s a dilemma that Guardmembers don’t have to face because low-cost, quality health insurance is available to them.
TRICARE Reserve Select (TRS) provides a health plan option to members of the Selected Reserve and their families when they are not on active-duty status. It delivers coverage similar to TRICARE Standard and Extra to eligible members and features continuously open enrollment.
The Army Reserve’s top general calls it a “steal.” The National Guard’s Enlisted Association says “where can you get health care for your entire family for just ($180) a month?” An Ohio National Guard private calls it “untouchable.” Another Soldier said it’s “one of the many often unmentioned benefits of Guard service”…
Originating in 2005, Congress expanded TRS in 2006 into a three-tiered premium structure based on active-duty time served. Congress then streamlined it in 2007 by merging the three tiers into one. If that wasn’t enough, premiums were reduced in January by 44% to $47.51 for individual coverage and by 29% to $180.17 for family coverage.
http://www.ng.mil/news/archives/2009/08/081309-TRICARE.aspx
Obama went to the Hill today to personally scuttle the public option. Why did he refuse to even mention it? Is it because he is totally without a spine, like almost all of the other Democrats? Is it because he doesn’t give a damn about the American People? Or is it because he is only interested in mustering personal wealth and influence by selling himself to the fat-cat corporatists who are looting this nation? My guess is all three.
It should be evident to all beyond the shadow of a doubt that the Democratic Party is completely corrupt and working exclusively to curry favor and elicit pay-offs from thieving corporatists – just like the Republicans!
I don’t see any hope for this country. It’s a billionaires’ club, and if you’re not a billionaire, you’re nothing, a disposable chattel to be thrown into the gaping maw of endless wars, or to be worked to death and robbed for the Fat Boys’ amusement. There will be no change or reforms under Obama. He’s making too much money selling us out – just exactly like Cheney and Bush. What a lousy rip-off.
Agreed. There is already a national exchange in the House bill. If this is the compromise, it is a fig leaf. FEHBP had a premium increase of 8.8% this year. It cannot control its costs any better than the rest of the insurance market.
EJ Dionne said there may also be a Medicaid expansion, probably to 150% FPL like the House bill. Medicaid is a fairly cheap way to cover people because it doesn’t pay providers very much, but with millions of new Medicaid patients coming into the system, many providers will close their practices to new patients and access will be a severe problem.
In addition Cantwell has a proposal to allow higher-income people to buy into her Basic Health Plan–but they will of course pay a much higher premium for the privilege. In general I suppport the Basic Health Plan idea but this is NOT a public option.
And finally there will be triggers (+/- opt-ins) and co-ops because Snowe, Carper, and Conrad need their egos stroked, even though everyone else agrees their proposals are worthless.
Probably saves money, which right now is important. For the state, not for us.
The whole thing with the study was the they’re saying routine screening mammos are not necessary – or useful – for women under 50 who have no symptoms and are not high risk
They’re not saying no one can get screened; they’re saying that screening everyone in that groups isn’t useful.
And as usual the media don’t get it, and the politicians don’t want to.
This is the Public Option on {Monty} Python, or the Public Option for Twits.
I was shocked when I called Issa’s office and heard he thought all Americans should be able to buy into the Fed system. Blown away.
Unless you’re dead it’s never too late to start over.
I would disagree. I think he’s in favor of the public option, but doesn’t want to scare folks. Uneducated people are easy to scare, and they have been. I’m guessing he’ll take things more slowly if the democrats allow him to. He’s still a good guy in my book.
Imagine if he hadn’t won. Look at the job he has…
Think they would go for a trigger like this:
Sounds like something that will happen on a lot of liberal blogs as people refuse to believe they were duped. And then will come the inevitable, “well, they’re better than the alternative.”
Guess they don’t need our votes, and they may not. With the planet in the mess its in now, Obama is better than a Republican. But you’re right that he has lost of enthusiastic young and crossover voters. a shame.
As for the rest, I’ll be working to get real democrats elected, Dems like Sherrod Brown, Raul Grijalva, Alan Grayson, among others.
Insurance companies have to cover more. More people have to buy whatever it is. What is to keep the cost from rising? What?? We can’t afford it now.
I really do not understand.
Agree. Amazed that the Dems don’t imagine the voters as they open their bills or their fines. The ones they can’t afford.
I can hear the swearing to never vote for a Democrat again from here. And since many of them don’t feel any urgency over climate chaos, they probably won’t, for a generation, at least. I’m thinking the big wigs don’t really care. It’s one big party on the Hill, long as you have those lobbyist jobs a waitin’.
much smoke, not much fire. i wouldnt rely on politico to tell me who ate what at the last state dinner.
tri-care for all.
medicare for all.
no care for Congress critters.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed but nobody on this site gives a shit what you think.
At this point your only purpose here is comic relief.
Yeah, nahant. I wonder about the trigger too.
cheers to that sentiment! once this sinks in and becomes a basis to your thinking, lots of great options open up, and you have freedom of action again.
there is so much good to eat if one does not imagine they have to go to McDonalds every day, because it is slightly less terrible than Burger King.
Obama and the health insurance reform fiasco sure has been a valuable teaching moment for a lot of Democrats, hasn’t it?
What does a medicare accepting doctor make?
My dentist just got a digital x-ray machine last month. It’s fast. They said that means less radiation, too.
(You still get the lead apron, though.)
It’s simple, it’s obvious, and it won’t do anything to help insurance companies meet their profit goals.
My impression is that they think we hippies are too stoned to notice when we’re getting screwed. Personaly, I was never too stoned to forget sex. Oh wait… this isn’t about sex.
I hear ya. The Democrats don’t.
Yeah, Issa is an odd duck (for a Republican) on this issue. I remember in 2007, he was the only Republican Member to show up at Michael Moore’s DC screening of Sicko. But then he’s loaded (“Please Step Away From the Car” is his voice and one of his car alarm patents.) so he doesn’t worry about campaign fundraising.
Well, my BCBS plan went up 32.6%. So, 8.8% seems fairly good.
You really misunderstand this site. We act on the basis that good policy is good politics, and bad policy is bad politics. It’ll be a cold day in hell when anyone here points to a pile of crap and calls it flourless chocolate cake with raspberry puree.
The docs in this country, whether doing medicare or not, are doing very very well. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
We aren’t your grandmother’s liberals bonzo. If you look around here, you don’t see any Obamabots.
That depends on where the doc is. There is a site where you can see what Medicare pays, if you can figure out the codes.
I’ve been on campaign conference calls with Issa. Most others are totally admiring of him. I had the opportunity to ask him about his thoughts on Blackwater, and he supported them totally. I’m still glad that I got to challenge him on this on the call.
In Iowa GPs are starting for $275K plus nice benefits.
Livable, for sure!
Not really. The greater percentage by far of women who get breast cancer do not have a family history. And the incidence in younger women is increasing.
I have posted links up the kazoo in a number of threads to all the data including the original study. I will try to find it again for you before this thread gives out.
You want your autonomy? Public health can’t work that way.
It’s pretty evident that no meaningful PO will come out of the Senate which means that the range of options that remain need assessing.
IMO the trust in Democrats, beginning with Obama, to craft HCR legislation that met the public’s needs was always misplaced. And at this point our focus should be to remove the main culprits to the best of our ability. This means finding and supporting alternate candidates to Reid, Lincoln and whoever else is vulnerable in 2010.
Further, if the final bill that passes does not contain a meaningful PO while mandating the purchase of private health insurance, then progressive voters should declare publicly that they will not vote for those that supported that bill. Rather they will seek alternative candidates that share our interests.
Also a campaign to oppose the legality of mandated purchase of health insurance in court should be supported, so that legislation with that provision can not be enacted.
It looks like the task of adopting adequate HCR will need to be accomplished outside of Congress. That system is irretrievably broken. It will serve little purpose to maintain trust and faith in Congress. The message needs to be made that the public is not captive to their wishes.
Take out the emotions and partisan fervor and distill the past months of this HCR effort down to the politics and political process we have seen unfold. As JW lays it out above we are seeing the crash and burn here with this HCR. The money was raked in by both D Party and R Party and we know there was a whole lot of money falling on WashingtonDC these past months to be raked in. Campaigns cost money in American politics and the air game dominates how the winning is done. Thirty seconds or maybe a minute all the time alloted to make the point,persuade or shade the facts or truths or do a full perversion of same.Expensive way of doing politics to be sure and more so when perverted by consultants and professional campaigners who get rich and famous selling this kind of politics. Everything done on the average. On the curve. On what the money politics support or will allow.
535 Americans are in Congress and one American is in the WH. Many Americans do care and try to form up viewpoints and vote to support those viewpoints. We know the election of Barack Obama was powered by many Americans who were very hopeful of things going differently after he moved into the WH.
Very hopeful of things going differently.
HCR of flatlining American healthcare needed to be focused on 2030,on 2040 or 2050 because that is where we are heading. Not 1950 or 1960 or 1970. Leadership needed here was the long vision,wise and independent of past ten,twenty or thirty years way of doing things. History here had to be discarded. The winners and losers redefined. Things made more simple. More fair. Equitable.
Failure to do this condemns Americans to a downward economic outlook as we move into the middle of 21st century. American healthcare premise of for profit health insurance,employer based/provided health insurance and the large gaps or holes this approach brings is obsolete economic thinking for United States economy,workplaces and jobs creation/preservation. It is a obscene political/social failure to move United States out of 19th century ignorance or 20th century luxury of delay and put off.
Is it not odd how Barack Obama has moved so deliberately to excuse the Bush/Cheney regime? How Barack Obama has moved and pushed for FISA,torture,war crimes and secrecy matters all being swept back into the dark? Or how Wall Street has fared vs. common Americans? What happened to Maher Arar was very bad and yet this Barack Obama we Americans put into WH in 2008 could not say anything to the American people as to why it was very bad and needed to be fully pushed back on? This Barack Obama did not mention Public Option on Capitol Hill today?
We now see where after months of so called deep deliberations this Barack Obama is gaming on what the death dealing Pentagon and CIA are doing or want to do more of in Afghanistan,Pakistan and surely in Iran as well.
We have elected another Warmonger President.A President who has no instinct to do the right leadership or political thing in or with this HCR.
You think not? You think Barack Obama is fulfilling his 2008 campaign?
You are happy if this HCR turns out to be nothing on reform and all about the money,who gives it up and who gets it?
You think Barack Obama needs more time?
You are entitled to think so.
Me? I hope Barack Obama and his bastard party go down in defeat in 2010 and 2012. This Barack Obama is not FDR. And this D Party only succeeds because the R Party is so much more perverse. Smelly only better because Stinky really stinks.
Why? Because these hacks and hucksters are not thinking about where we Americans are going to be in 2040 or 2060. They are thinking 2010 or 2012.
535 Americans in Congress and the one American in the WH have to do better than this. What we are seeing far too much of here in late 2009 is not acceptable. Not tolerable. Not sustainable.
We are being sentenced to the failure of our future.
Barack Obama is going to waste the next three years as he wasted this year. The warmaking and money politics will rage on. Poor Americans will become poorer and Americans not yet poor will become poor. America will be comprised of a top five percent of population that has all the household wealth and the bottom seventy percent will scrape on day to day. The twenty five percent not at top or in the bottom percentages will be always in precarious balances of near falling or maybe getting lucky.
Money politics are not going to give Americans a great society or economy. Money politics certainly are not giving Americans adequate politics or political process with this so called HCR here in 2009.
Which is maybe why torches and pitchforks then take a role in these matters.
The problem isn’t that there isn’t enough money. The health care system is literally awash in it. It is an allocation problem. That is what is so damn maddening about this whole issue.
Yeah, I have to agree with you. It has all come down to a political side show. If something passes(reform or not) Obama wins. If not it is his waterloo and all the frightened independents will vote GOP and the country is fucked again.
They are saying it. But it is not true. the 1 per 2000 now women screened in that age group who have cancer will not be discovered as early.
Of course if you are rich you can buy just about anything you want. Abortions are a little difficult.
But as in the current Senate bill this Panel is designated as the reference for whether insurance will be mandated to cover a procedure. Their is a grading system. Grades A and B must be covered. Mammograms in this group are Grade C and there will be no mandate. California is already dropping the mandate. Poor women will not have access.
If the Senate dares to pass a bill w/o a strong PO, then we have big problems in conference cause House progressives (if they hold firm) won’t vote for a bill w/o a strong PO. How this gets resolved is gonna be something to behold. And most likely, American people will be the losers.
Appreciate it.
Jon, you’re absolutely right. It took me about three seconds to see through this proposal as a spin job, yet many posters on the liberal blogs are willing to swallow this deal just to get something done. Given the endless debate in the Senate, I can understand the frustration: just pass a bill, they say, and we’ll “fix it later.”
Of course, after the agonizing, the hand-wringing and the drama, I severely doubt Congress will touch health care reform for years after this bill passes. And without an actual public plan that’s able to seriously compete with private insurers on the cost containment issue, things will just get worse. The subsidies, no matter how generous, will only mask the problem for a short time. Eventually health care inflation will overrun the ability/willingness of the federal government to subsidize the costs and everyone will suffer with worse health care benefits.
There’s a chance we can fix the public plan, no matter how shoddy it is now. Passing a bill to expand access to the plan for small businesses and other employers later down the line is a possibility. We might even be able to get some pricing power through Medicare at some point. But if there’s no public option to tweak, it won’t get “fixed.” Instead we’ll just get ever less generous private health insurance plans with consumers paying the maximum premiums allowed under law (i.e. 40%).
Keep up the good fight, Jon! No amount of subsidies is worth trading away the central element of cost containment.
Actually, if this doesn’t work, we need to take the bull by the horns. Together.
Here is the NYT report
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/health/17cancer.html?_r=2&th&emc=th which is a little more readable than the full original paper here
Effectiveness of Early Detection
The newly updated meta-analysis by Nelson and colleagues
(7) confirms an earlier finding (16) that screening
mammography reduces mortality. Improvements in the
relative risk (RR) for death due to breast cancer for women
aged 39 to 49 years and 50 to 59 years are similar at 0.85
(95% CI, 0.75 to 0.96) and 0.86 (CI, 0.75 to 0.99), respectively.
An even greater improvement was found for
women aged 60 to 69 years (RR, 0.68 [CI, 0.54 to 0.87]).
Results were uncertain for older women, with a new report
from a previously included trial with longer follow-up data
showing an RR of 1.12 (CI, 0.73 to 1.72) for breast cancer
death associated with screening women aged 70 to 74 years
(based on a small number of participants). At the time of
the previous meta-analysis, data from 2 trials showed an
RR of 0.78 (CI, 0.62 to 0.99) for breast cancer death in
screened women aged 65 to 74 years (16). Mortality reduction
and life-years gained (8) were both considered important
outcomes of screening in forming this recommendation;
in the end, mortality reduction as observed in trials
was the metric chosen to express the benefits of screening
in each age group.
http://www.annals.org/content/151/10/716.full.pdf+html
LOL, are you saying we’re going to get gored if this doesn’t work? I admit the Democrats have painted themselves into a corner by putting the current bill on the floor without an obvious strategy for getting to 60 votes. And doing nothing would be the worst result, of course. It’s a tough spot, if Reid 100% refuses to bend the rules of the Senate. As though the public would even care if they ignored Robert’s Rules of Order altogether and just had an up or down vote tomorrow, without even bothering with the pretense…
I am. I’m disappointed that there isn’t an organized—totally organized—effort for healthcare reform. Streets.
Lead aprons are absolutely worthless. Most dentists (I am an oral surgeon) have you wear them because they are mandated by the state boards that regulate medical radiation exposure (all states have them as far as I know). Radiation exposure during dental x-rays is extremely slight, and is comparable to the radiation exposure one receives on a cross-country flight.
Hahahahahahahahahah, I just love the people who get pissed off over inocuous comments. It makes me laugh my ass off. You know what I love best? People who fume and then claim they don’t care. Why, kind of like you actually. Again, I am laughing my ass off at you. Does it bug you when an outsider penetrates the inner sanctum of the echo chamber? I stand by everything I have written. If this passes without a public option, the majority of those on this site will be exclaiming how great the Democratic Party is.
Masanf wrote
Masan, we already have plans to move our medical device company to Europe and have been meeting with EU investors, international tax experts, work permit experts and the equivalent of commerce department officials for several months.
If this bill passes with for-profit insurance companies given more economic and market power it will literally enable Blue Cross/Blue Shield (BCBS), AETNA, et al to limit reimbursement for doctors, devices and drugs. In short, companies like mine, with a new technology, will be judged not on medical efficacy, or even economic efficacy, but on whether or not BCBS wants to do so.
In Europe we are presenting clinical data on medical efficacy and that is being used to judge our value. I already have a customer for 50 big ticket hospital-scale medical systems and we’re still in beta.
Note that US doctors are very interested in trying our technology, but if BCBS deems it “experimental” hospitals and clinics can’t get reimbursed, even when it’s cheaper than alternatives. Sure, a rich donor may pay for the system, but the patients will require a subsidy for each life-saving procedure.
In short, forget the relationship between doctor and patient, only the for-profit insurer matters, and literally has more control than the government health with whom I’ve met.
The HCR debate demonstrates the need for publicly funded congressional elections.
Nearly all members of congress, as well as the White House, are first beholden to their big ticket donors.
I am assuming you are opposed to the taxes being levied against medical device manufacturers as well, correct? As for limiting reimbursements to doctors, perhaps you should worry more about how the “savings” are being arrived at for this bill and less about whether Aetna is given more bargaining power. One of the bill’s main source of savings is its slashing of physician reimbursement by up to 23%; no that is not a typo.
Anyone in the medical field knows that when it comes to decreasing reimbursements for doctors, it is the government which drives reimbursement cuts more than private insurance companies, and this bill is certainly no exception to that. There is a reason a huge portion of doctors refuse to see new Medicare patients. This bill would make the government even more miserly.
Everytime I read the particulars of this bill, it almost makes me glad I am no longer able to practice medicine.
Those running for office should fund their own campaigns. By enacting legislation for the public funding of campaigns, you are compelling individuals to participate in the political process, albeit indirectly, whether they want to or not because their tax dollar is paying for campaigns. No thank you. It’s not like the majority of Congress is hurting for money.
It should be said that it is only through the cooperation of physicians and allied professionals accepting hugely discounted fees for Medicare patients that has made the program successful. And no. Their incomes are not that great, most less than $200,000/yr. Compare that with your money people.
The bottom line as to whether these new laws have a chance of succeeding in their claims will depend on how hard the beside caretakers try to make it work. This is why it is obscene to present the problem, pass laws and debate it as simply a commodity to be plundered for the benefit of the already wealthy…
Ralph Nader for Connecticut Senator!
If the Senate bill ends up without a public option, but the House bill has it, then the final bill through the conference committee could still have a public option, couldn’t it?
- Tom
Yes folks we’ve been screwed without lube OR a condom once again!
Depends on what specialty he or she has. However, it’s generally the case that if a Doctor worked full tikem only on Medicare he or she would still make more than a Doctor with a similar specialty in any other nation in the world.
Over at alternet.org and other progressive sites, I see a lot of people turned off by the Democratic party and saying (at least) that finally they will join the Green Party, having been first disillusioned by Obama’s Summers-Geithner-Bernacke in-bed-with-Wall St. appts. & policies, and now his escalation of the war in Afghanistan (not to mention his non-effort to get a public option and the Congressional Dems. caving in, as described above.) Maybe we can get Kucinich to join the Green Party.
A question – Can voters in state say no to their congressmen using federal health insurance plan?
If voters did that, I bet the public option would be passed in a heart beat.
Same for banning congress from accepting money from any corporation. This has become root of all evil in washington. no lobbying. Why can’t we the people say no, heck if you can just shame them into pledging no money from lobbyists, we could accomplish a lot.
would never work.
Okay, before 2010, we have to work. Since they are so willing to give us to the insurance companies, why don’t we trigger them. Blanche L:incoln, gone. Barbara Boxer if she votes for this mess, gone. I can’t wait for 2012, Joe, you are triggered!!!! President Obama, I love you, I truly do, but we need strength and not speeches. Progressives, let’s begin to mobilize.
You will still be forced to buy expensive insurance from the same private insurance companies that have failed us so far.
1) ripping off consumers to make obscene profits is not considered “failure” in corporate circles – just the opposite.
2) protecting the status quo while democrats prance and preen (led by the speechifier-in-chief), dissembling about how they passed [cough] health care reform, IS the plan.