Politicians, business executives, labor leaders, none of them seem to get it (or at least want to acknowledge it): Our broken health care system is the 800 pound gorilla sitting on our economy, and every year, the gorilla gains another hundred pounds. Health insurance is a massive piece of overhead cost, killing our competitiveness in the world market. The problem is not only getting worse, it is getting worse at an increasingly rapid rate. This current health care reform bill is good on coverage expansion, but extremely weak on cost control–and that is a very bad news.
We currently pay almost twice as much per capita on health care as any other industrialized nation, and that is with the US only providing insurance for roughly 83% of its citizens. We are rapidly on track to spend three if not four times as much per capita as any of the other first-world nations that we are competing against.
In 2009, the average annual cost of an employer-provided insurance policy for a family was $13,375. For the past few years, that amount has been increasing at a rate of about $1,000 per year, and the CBO projects the growth rate will not slow in any significant way.
The CBO predicts that seven years from now (in 2016), even if the Senate bill passes, an average family policy will cost $20,100 a year. That is roughly $7,000 more than it is today.
In the large group market, which is defined here as consisting of employers with more than 50 workers, the legislation would yield an average premium per person that is zero to 3 percent lower in 2016 (relative to current law).
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In the large group market, average premiums would be roughly $7,300 for single policies and $20,100 for family policies under the proposal, compared with about $7,400 and $20,300 under current law.
And most of the 0-3% reduction will be simply because the new excise tax on health insurance would result in millions of Americans getting worse insurance plans.
CBO and JCT estimate that, under current law, about 19 percent of employment-based policies would have premiums that exceeded the threshold in 2016. (Because health insurance premiums under current law are projected to increase more rapidly than the threshold, the percentage of policies with premiums under current law that would exceed the threshold would increase over time.) For policies whose premiums remained above the threshold, the tax would probably be passed through as a roughly corresponding increase in premiums. However, most employers would probably respond to the tax by offering policies with premiums at or below the threshold; CBO and JCT expect that the majority of the affected workers would enroll in one of those plans with lower premiums. Plans could achieve lower premiums through some combination of greater cost sharing (which would lower premiums directly and also lower them indirectly by leading to less use of medical services), more stringent benefit management, or coverage of fewer services.
Thus, people who remained in high-premium plans would pay higher premiums under the excise tax than under current law, and people who shifted to lower-premium plans would pay lower premiums under the excise tax than under current law—with other factors held constant. On net, CBO and JCT estimate that the excise tax and the resulting behavioral changes, incorporating the changes in premiums for employer-sponsored insurance that were discussed earlier in this analysis, would reduce average premiums among the 19 percent of policies affected by the tax by about 9 percent to 12 percent in 2016.
This means that by 2016, the new higher-limit excise tax will already start hitting many union health care plans. The excise tax also does not really control overall health care cost, it is just artificially keeping down “premiums” by forcing people to pay more out-of-pocket for their health care with higher co-pays and deductibles.
I know that some in the labor movement responded to this data by pushing to raise the limit on the excise tax again to $24,000-$25,000. Since the excise tax is not indexed to medical inflation, increasing the limit by even two thousand dollars will only slightly delay the tax from hitting a plan. With our insane expected growth rate (remember, over $1,000 a year), this increase will only protect these labor insurance plans for, at most, another 9-20 months. Of course, the possibility of the excise tax affecting labor insurance plans should be the very least of the private sector unions’ concerns.
Manufacturing in this country will not expand or even survive as long as health care insurance is an ever-growing overhead cost. I would not build a factory in this country, not when Germany, Norway, Ireland, etc., have health care growth rates a fraction of our own. Business in this country will not be able to compete internationally in 8 years if they are paying the equivalent of an extra $10,000 health care tax on each employee.
I don’t care if unions get the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), “card check,” or the super awesome ultimate labor organizing bill passed. (And it isn’t going to happen. If we can’t force the Senate’s 60-member Democratic caucus to pass the extremely popular public option with a huge grassroots push over the objections of one very unpopular industry, there is no way even a watered down EFCA is going anywhere in the Senate against the full opposition of corporate America.) If health care premiums keep growing, there simply will not be a private manufacturing sector to unionize.
The only hope long term for private sector unions and the rest of the American economy is to rein in our health care cost. The only way that will happen is if we destroy this 60-vote myth in the Senate. An excise tax will not really control costs, insurance exchanges will not really control costs, none of these “free market economagic” solutions will work. Peter Orszag admits these pathetic market-based efficiency reforms he is championing will take decades to realize. We don’t have decades to spare. The Federal government is the entity only big enough and strong enough to really bring down health care costs.
The public option may seem small. The weaker version’s cost-controlling component, while in the tens of billions, is still less than I hoped for. The important thing though is that if a real public option is part of the final bill, that means Congress stood up to one of the extremely well-funded lobbies in our health care system, and used governmental power to rein in waste and profits. If we can get Congress to do it with one segment of our health care industry, we can eventually force them to do it with the others.
I hope the private sector unions don’t try to cut a short-sighted deal to stay on some senator’s good side. If they trade away the public option, they are trading away the only hope we have had in years to use the government to give regular Americans the upper hand against large corporations. And the worst part would be that the private sector unions would be trading it away for, at most, only a few months’ reprieve of their death sentence.



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Thanks for this post. I have been genuinely baffled by the failure of big business to get behind health care reform. In fact, from a cost point of view, I would have expected them to get on board with single payer. We cannot compete globally given the costs of our employer-based health insurance system.
Do you have any insight into what their reluctance is all about? I really do not get it.
i missed something, where does the $10,000 figure come from?
my impression is that much of the current labor leadership is more aligned with dem party insiders than they are with their own union members.
I would never expect them to get on board with single payer but something like a German style all payer should at least appeal to them. There is still massive room for improvement between where we are and single payer.
I think the problem is the Chamber has convince all the corporations that they should stick together no matter what. The problem the strategy is bringing down the entire economy.
The 10,000 figure comes from the fact by 2017 germany will have a per family insurance cost of like 14,000 and American will have one of about 25000
I guess I wasn’t clear, I’m not talking about labor leaders, I’m talking about business executives, the Chamber of Commerce and such. They are hobbled in the global economy by the cost of providing health insurance to their employees. I would have thought they would have been first in line to want to cut their costs. Their silence has been deafening.
who are the votes for a universal healthcare legislation that also controls costs and what is the legislation?
Thanks for the follow up Jon. I am stunned that manufacturers and other large employers are letting the Chamber screw them on this. You would think they could run the numbers themselves and realize that preserving the current system for the sake of companies that have been indirectly screwing them for years would infuriate them sufficiently to either force the Chamber to change their position or to independently push for reform.
there are not 50 votes for a single payer like you want. But there is 50 votes for a decently strong public option that could save like 30 billion. 50 votes for a drug re importation bill that would save like 50 billion. 50 votes probably for a Medicare part D public option or direct medicare drug price negotiations that should save billions. 50 votes for a medical loss ratio of 85%. Etc…
not one big cost cutter but many small ones.
that doesn’t make any sense to your thesis. it’s not the difference in per capita national healthcare costs, it’s the difference is per employee cost to the employer that matters to employers (in where they are going to build the factory). we went through this is your previous post:
financing healthcare via per employee taxes on employers is not the way to build a high wage, high employment economy (same can be said for ss and medicare taxes on employers).
ah. my mistake. my answer would then be that they (ceo’s etc) are not hobbled. outsourcing baby!
thanks. is it the same 50 votes for all of the improvements you mention?
(p.s. i think at the moment there are like 2 votes for sp in senate, so not to worry — i wasn’t asking about that)
No but there is a fair amount of overlap. For example the drug re importation amendment from Dorgan has a few Republican cosponsors. Keep an eye out for it. It might just barely get the 60 votes and blow up the whole white house phrma deal.
thanks. fingers crossed, that would be a great improvement!
Thanks selise — you make an excellent, albeit depressing, point.
jon, any response to my comment @10? (am i wrong? did i misunderstand something? do you think i have a point?).
although i agree with your conclusions, i think the analysis is important because it helps us evaluate the expected effect on employment of different healthcare policy proposals… and i really really disagree with your analysis.
most countries pay for their health care system with a type of payroll tax. not the best idea but it is an apple to apple problem. For example, Germany, Netherlands, France.
Of course the health care system will need to be paid for anyway, be it tax or premiums. Either way it increases the overhead for doing business.
It could be a deliberate.
Good Afternoon Jon and Firedogs -
AFL-CIO set to blanket air waves next two weeks with a Dont Tax Benefits ! Ad Campaign
glad to see you mention Dorgan – have been asking about his amendment for a while now -
Isn’t it too late for that? Isn’t the benefits tax an important part of the cost savings to the govt?
there is not much news about it. It should possibly come up this weekend.
In the Village, destruction would be considered a feature, not a bug.
Mr. Obama is a creature of his container, taking the shape that generates the least friction. He’ll follow the Village creed, despite being a Democrat from Chicago, a town that has known unions since Pullman and Marshall Fields were bloody anti-union owners, not names on a letterhead.
Mr. Obama hasn’t learned to protect his political base before catering to his opposition. (Or he regards Republicans and “centrist” Democrats as his base.) That frailty (or preference) may damn us more than George Bush’s incompetence.
they are not going to drop the excise tax, obama has endorsed it to strongly. Labors are fight to slightly raise the limit. Raising it $1,000 will buy them about 8 months.
This is the most cockamamie piece of shit I’ve ever seen. I usually absent myself from these threads because the whole thing is gag producing.
Thanks for addressing this issue, Jon — it’s been amazing how the Senate bill’s supporters simply don’t talk about what is by far the most important aspect of health care reform. On top of how catastrophic this is going to be politically: Obama and the Democrats, with great effort and greater fanfare, finally pass comprehensive health care reform. And every year on into the future, your premiums go up another thousand or more. Meanwhile somewhere five years down the road lower income people get subsidies to buy shitty policies but your premiums keep going up and your policy keeps getting shittier. And young voters who think they’re not going to get sick (and in nearly every case are right) will be forced to shift their limited resources to insurance policies they don’t understand and that don’t pay for anything.
One might expect a good number of people to, somewhere around November 2012, start asking WTF?
Yeah, this whole mess (health care, war, economy) is quickly turning me into a damned alcoholic.
Cheers!
*burp*
Another aspect may be purely personal. CEO’s, Chambers of Commerce types
etc. all have Red Carpet, Gold-plated insurance plans. These folks do enjoy pretty fine medical care and I have found in my discussions with them that they believe any change in the system would diminish the quality of care they now receive. That belief may be irrational, especially given any of the bills likely to emerge from Congress, but that’s what they think. And, as we all know, perception is often more important in politics than reality .
Jon– the bill stinks… the number of provisions that are slops for the lobbying groups (including progressive ones) all come at the expense of the health of Americans.
and please do a post on what Section 1555 (page 367) means: individual mandate YES: mandates on BIG INSURANCE NO
we should all abandon this bill and make them start over
Heh. It’s the cocktail hour here. But I guess I’ll wait for awhile. Cheers.
you are absolutely correct -
Labor leaders bow and scrap before elected officials and since these officials are owned by the Insurance companies there we are-
Here is the likely grim scenario: The economy will come back just enough to avoid street rebellion and most political rebellion.
A crappy health care reform bill will pass that enriches the Cartel and does little for the people.
Costs of delivery and premiums will skyrocket but will just seem like part of the ride as the hyper- inflation roller coaster picks up steam later in 2010.
No rebellion and no resolution to the problem.
Same hour here.
I’m in the same time zone as you, just a bit further south, in the burbs of that wretched smelly, heaping pile of shit, we call our nation’s capital.
I’m gonna have dinner in an hour or so (braised pork chops, basil-green peppper-mashed potatoes) and I’ll have a glass of wine with that.
Oh man, that sounds GREAT!
An hour huh? Hmmm, maybe if I hurry….. *g*
Enjoy dinner and wine, and keep fighting the fight. Cause it ain’t ever gonna be over. Goddammed right wing.
A piece of shit legislation will be touted by the politicians and the whores in the corporate media as a stunning victory for the “people.” Meanwhile the Titanic continues to take on water and everyone in steerage is going down with the ship. The oligarchs and plutocrats will of course be in well fitted lifeboats.
Wonder if those well fitted lifeboats will be bulletproof???
Gotta laugh. Mod must have dosed off. Go OFG.
Good points here.
To begin, your first observation is:
“Politicians, business executives, labor leaders, none of them seem to get it (or at least want to acknowledge it)”:
I think that based on the lobbying dollars spent on this issue, the need to organize grassroots revolt amongst the clueless, and the general constipation of the political processes across the country; that the various ‘theys’ do “get it”.
“Acknowledge” that this is a partisan issue that some Democrats, many Republicans, and all radio and tv talkshow hosts think will break the Democratic hold on:
the Presidency
the US Senate
the US House of Representatives
state governorships and other down ticket state and local partisan races
I have heard some discussion to that effect.
It may very well be true that the average voter has not analyzed this issue in they way that you have here.
With respect to your conclusion:
“The public option may seem small. The weaker version’s cost-controlling component, while in the tens of billions, is still less than I hoped for. The important thing though is that if a real public option is part of the final bill, that means Congress stood up to one of the extremely well-funded lobbies in our health care system, and used governmental power to rein in waste and profits. If we can get Congress to do it with one segment of our health care industry, we can eventually force them to do it with the others.
I hope the private sector unions don’t try to cut a short-sighted deal to stay on some senator’s good side. If they trade away the public option, they are trading away the only hope we have had in years to use the government to give regular Americans the upper hand against large corporations. And the worst part would be that the private sector unions would be trading it away for, at most, only a few months’ reprieve of their death sentence.”
If a partial fix is obtained at this time, it will be disrupted, amended, and defeated every step of the way, before it is even implemented.
Nothing is better than what is likely to be legislated on this issue in this process.
Losing means not fixing the US health care system.
Approving and enacting the bill that will be presented to the president; will that bill fix health care?
Unless the answer is yes, combined with some reasonable possibility that it will actually be implemented as legislated, in a year or two…then why pass a bill that will not do what is necessary?
Losing on this issue is defined as not fixing the problem.
A weak bill is losing.
Place the blame for not passing the bill where it belongs and vote a weak bill down.
Ya think? *g*
We currently pay a Medicare payroll tax. We could use that to pay for SP. The tax would increase what we’re paying now, of course, but if insurance premiums are non-existent each person would be paying far less than they would for private insurance.
True that.
Jon,
Personally I think you’re the best writer on here. I’m interested in your take on the comparison of the obesity levels in the US vs the rest of the world and that affect on cost.
Did you see the report on CBS news that was in the New England Journal of Medicine that said that if every American was normal weight and we didn’t smoke we would add 4 years to our lifespan and thus be near the top of longevity. Then when we get everyone in the system I would expect we’d be at the top (although admittedly there is no way to eradicate obesity totally as well as smoking).
The scary point is that obesity is much much much more expensive than Smoking ever is or was.
I have not been able to spend much time at the computer lately so have not kept up with threads much, try to keep up with the posts. Has there been any discussion or anyone have links to how much health care really “costs?” For example, there is a price for the service on the bill, then the part I pay and the part that is “covered” by insurance.
I don’t think the price of the service has any relationship to the “cost” of it.
I have always bought my own insurance and paid the highest rate, even though I am healthy. But I did not start buying insurance until the early 1990s. Until that time, an annual exam (pap smear) cost about $50. Now it is over $400, at least on the bill. What does it really cost?
Max Baucus is determined to set up a sweetheart deal for his insurance industry contributors. If the free-market is always best for everything, what fear do they have of competing with a supposedly inefficient federal insurance option?
Complete BS to preserve a tilted and corrupt status quo, of course. Remember however that Hillary would not come off of single-payer in 1994, and industry shills like Baucus & McCain were able to kill health reform in it’s entirety – keeping around 35 million working Americans from health insurance and preventive care, for the next 15 years.
If we have to go to Plan Stupid at this point to slash that barbaric reality, that’s what we do. For now.
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This is a really good post that every union member should read. Thanks.