Rahm Emanuel is making practically every staffer in the White House read Ronald Brownstein’s completely uninformed article about the great “free market economagic” cost saving solutions in the Senate bill. This explains a lot about why the current health care reform proposals are so bad. This is probably the single worst piece of news I have heard during the entire health care debate. If someone as powerful as Rahm thinks there is any value in Brownstein’s writing, reform is in very bad shape.
The problem is Brownstein just doesn’t understand health care systems. Take for example this jewel:
And, with only a few exceptions, that’s just about all the systemic reforms analysts from the center to the left have identified as the most promising strategies for changing the economic incentives in the medical system. (The public competitor to private insurance companies championed by the Left would affect who writes the checks in the medical system, but not what the checks are written to pay for.) Most of the other big ideas for controlling costs (such as medical malpractice reform) tend to draw support primarily among Republicans.
This one paragraph should show you how completely Brownstein lacks even the most basic knowledge about health care reform. The CBO concluded the Republicans’ “big idea” for controlling cost, extreme medical malpractice reform, would save/generate $54 billion for the Federal government. (I would challenge Brownstein to name another single Republican idea that would actually reduce cost, because they did not include any in their alternative bill two weeks ago, and I have heard of no others from them.) Let’s compare this to the public option.
According to the CMS, the strong public option (which paid Medicare rates plus 5%) promoted by House progressives would have costs 18% below that of private health insurance companies. The CBO concluded it would have saved $110 billion. This public option design was still considered weak by reform activists. Mandating that Medicare providers take part in the public option would have saved another $91 billion. If the public option could pay Medicare rates instead of Medicare rates plus 5%, that would have saved roughly another $50 billion. These savings are with the public option only being available to the small number of people on the new exchange.
Allowing every company to buy into this super-robust public option would give them a choice that would be roughly 20% cheaper than their current insurance plan. If even some of those savings were passed on to employees in the form of higher salaries, that would translate into hundreds of billions in increased tax revenue. This one progressive idea, which could save about $250-800 billion, is bad mouthed by Brownstein, yet he claims the Republicans continuous screaming about tort reform, which would save only $54 billion, is one of the “big ideas” for controlling costs.
The Senate bill would make some cost saving baby steps away from fee-for-service medicine, but this is not the real way to get serious about cost control. This is just “reform” to make believers in “free market economagic” happy. If Brownstein really wants to know why the rest of the industrialized world spends about half of what we do on health care (on a per capita basis), I have a nine step solution:
Step 1: Call the German Ministry of Health.
Step 2: Ask why they spend so much less on health care.
Step 3: Call the French Ministry of Health.
Step 4: Ask why they spend so much less on health care.
Step 5: Call the Japanese Ministry of Health.
Step 6: Ask why they spend so much less on health care.
Step 7: Call the Belgian Ministry of Health.
Step 8: Ask why they spend so much less on health care.
Step 9: Repeat Steps 1 thru 8 with as many countries as needed.
What these countries all have in common is a single reimbursement rate negotiator. It is either a government agency or regulated cabal of all insurance providers that set most reimbursement rates. That is why they pay so much less for everything. They pay 30%-500% less for doctor visits, hospital stays, drugs, lab tests, procedures, etc. Our insane system of hundreds of insurers secretly negotiating reimbursement rates individually with thousands of providers and manufactures is a recipe for administrative waste, inefficiency, higher prices, and more expensive care.
The number one reason we pay so much more for health care has nothing to do with overusing care because of a fee-for-service system. It is just that the “fee” we pay for those services is so dramatically higher than any other nation’s.
It is not just what the public option’s “checks are written to pay for.” The hope was the public option could negotiate better rates, and therefore write smaller checks. It could create system-wide change if other insurers followed suit.
This line from Brownstein is just comically wrong:
And, with only a few exceptions, that’s just about all the systemic reforms analysts from the center to the left have identified as the most promising strategies for changing the economic incentives in the medical system.
Take, for example, the sweetheart PhRMA deal preventing almost any savings from the drug industry. We spend about $200 billion a year on prescription drugs in this country. We spend roughly 20% more per capita on drugs than the second highest country, France, and roughly twice as much as most european countries. If we implemented progressive solutions like drug reimportation and allowing Medicare to directly negotiate for drug prices, that would save at least a hundred billion bucks. If we allowed the government to negotiate drug prices for everyone in the country, like most countries do, we should at least be able to get our per capita spending on drugs to a level similar to Canada. That would be roughly half a trillion dollars in savings on drugs over only the next 10 years.
There is a wealth of progressive cost control solutions that were not even considered in Congress. All told, they would have saved our country trillions over the next decade. On the other hand the Senate bill makes only tiny steps to slightly reduce over-utilization. Brownstein does the nation a disservice by publishing this article while completely ignoring the real cost issue. Rahm Emanuel commits a near-criminal act by making people at the highest levels of our government read this article as if it had any value. No wonder the health care reform plans have been so bad so far. With the reform effort led by fools who don’t even understand the nature of the problem, it is no wonder existing proposals contain almost no real solutions.



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Why the focus on Rahm? Just because he assigned the homework? Everything I have read said Obama was quite taken with this article.
Got linkies? Or other proof?
Rahm was the guy mentioned by name here.
In the meantime, anyone got an “in” with Michelle Obama’s mother? That might be how we get this news to the White House and bypass the Rahm Filter. (I’m only partially kidding here.)
I’m sure Rahm and the Blue Curs will come up with something even Republicans can sign on to. A win win for the insurance industry, big pharma, Rahm, Blue Curs, and Obama. They’ll polish the turd claiming it’s a victory for the American people and like the scene in “Pink Flamingoes” the corporate media will eat it up.
Intelligence coupled with commonsense should relay to one that a women’s right to choose will continue as is and this is just a wedge issue by the Enemies of Healthcare Reform to fracture, because a house divided, cannot stand! Advanced Souls will not get involved in personality or petty conflicts of debate and are only concerned about the work — the Plan for Humanity. There is so much to be done. Time is running short. And, only the good of the Whole matters, and not the individual parts.
“The New Age will not be ushered in and find true expression of its latent energies through the medium of old and patched up forms, or through the preservation of ancient techniques and attitudes. It will come into being through entirely new forms and by means of the intelligent discarding of old modes of religion, government and economic and social idealisms. It is always difficult for the (Servant of Humanity and Goodwill) who is working in the world of human affairs to strike the happy medium between sound physical plane techniques in expression and the measure of the vision which he sees; it is never easy to adapt and to relate the old to the new, thus producing that which the present requires. The task of the disciple, (servant of humanity) as you can see from the three words—old, new and present—is therefore primarily concerned with Time. This right comprehension of the time element requires the eye of vision, plus right interpretation of that which it sees (or envisions).” [Discipleship in the New Age II, Alice A. Bailey] Thank God for the Agents of Change who try to make a difference in the lives of ordinary human beings, whose intentions and Duty are to uplift the conditions of the people and to serve the people…. They try to raise the minimum wage, they try to extend unemployment benefits, they try to make sure there is clean water and clean air, but its hard and there is always a fight from the best Congress money can buy, whose mission is to stall and to obstruct and to incite fear! And, at this time in our history, so much is Crying Out for Change. And, as Science teaches us to do nothing and to be static only leads to decay — only leads to death. Let these Agents of Change fight on with joy which will call in the “higher Angels of their being” and with solidarity, which is their strength. More importantly, “we (are Higher Selves, the engery of light and love) are the Change we have been waiting for”. We must get too it!
The TPM article says that Obama first brought the article to Rahm’s attention- FWIW. Based on the guest list to the White House dinner, including Tom Friedman and others like him, our real problem is the people Obama deems it worthwhile to listen to. Getting the President to start respecting and listening to people who really understand health care reform would certainly help, but who knows how realistic that is. It seems the only solution is to continue reaching as many people as possible through as many avenues as possible- which Jane is doing a great job of. Eventually he wouldn’t be able to ignore all of them. Anyone have Tom’s number?
For the wingers, cutting taxes on business is still the final solution, and, keeping to its real historic nature, would indeed be the last breath of the economy.
Maybe pointing out that we’re now experiencing the disaster the rightwing ideology brought on is the best antidote to practitioners of corporate welfare.
and there is what’s wrong with the president,he actually believes the propaganda promoted by failed economists
it’s not even flawed, they knew there was no such thing as a free market when they started promoting the rubbish, it’s simply propanda as flawed as “trickle down economics”
as a matter of fact, the rediculous myth called “free market” relies on the obsurd fantasy that wealth “trickles down”
I have to say, obama is proving more and more he is a dullard, as playable as bush only more dangerous since he has a better vocabulary
a progressive economist like krugman MUST get an audience with the president where he is tasked with the difficult job of proving to the president that all the myths he’s promoting is nothing but propaganda and he has fallen for it
again for edification;
there is NO such thing as a free market, the myth was created for the purpose of stealing from the middle class
the very concept of a monetart system is a set of regulations, once you believe in money you are no longer a free marketeer
the concept of ownership is again, a set of regulations and once you believe in ownership you have abandoned the “free market”
the concept of a court system to gain redress is of course a set of regulations
the concept of “a sanctity of contracts”, again, a set of regulations, once you believe there is a scantity of contracts you are no longer a free marketeer
obama really falls for that “the market will regulate itself”?
one
term
president
I am going to fight against his re-election unless he learns (what is brutally obvious) and learns that pronto
we need to make that bill fail, mandating insurance when there is no public policy that mitigates corporate greed we WILL suffer
I do not want a mandate in the first place much less with a public option however if a mandate is written into law it BETTER offer a public option
I am REALLY not liking this man running our government right now and I will go this far;
if mccain had been elected president more good would have come of it since the democrats would not allow him what they are allowing obama
A little lazy to ask for links when the article linked in this post makes the same point.
off to work, great post jon walker
What about the fellow from MIT, Jonathan Gruber, is he uninformed?
All of it should go to employees we need consumers to spend again.
Okay I read that Brownstein excerpt about three times and I’m still not sure what he was saying. It seems that in addition to being misinformed, he’s also a really crappy writer.
These neoliberal economists are the modern equivalent of old “doctors” bleeding their patients to death and thinking they were helping.
We need to brand this as American drug companies selling drugs to Commie Countries 20% cheaper. Once we establish that Meme in the public mind lets see the GOPers and Rahm’s hand picked Blue Dogs run on a vote to help Commies on election day!
The system closest to the bills before Congress is that of the Swiss, who, like everyone else in the industrialized world except the U.S., devote about 10% of their GDP to healthcare, compared to our 16%. Per the Wikipedia’s entry on the Swiss system:
Emphasis added.
This is part of the dysfunction within the current economic paradigm. We need for people to keep buying ever more shit, then get storage sheds to keep the shit or send it to the landfill. Productivity is a measure of how much shit can be produced. Yea, so and so managed to produce a gazillion plastic bottles that Nestle was able to fill with poluted water to sell to whomever. The payday loan vultures were able to rip off countless poor and make tremendous profits by charging 4000% interest.
We need production that adds value to the economy. Wind Power clean air and Power generation.
Well, you write about “advanced souls”, but you seem to be a preening condescending New Age Elmer Gantry showoff who begins your entire New Age huckster comment by putting down women and men who righteously argue that a woman’s civil rights, including to her own body, are expendable in light of the overall good of everyone – so saith your crock of a comment.
Hear ye the good news then, the overall good is advanced only by everyone’s overall good. Women will ultimately die because of the Stupak amendment’s constrictions, and will do so each year, yet you say focus on what you consider to be a greater good. Easy for you to say. I loathe posers who couldn’t walk a mile in someone else’s shoes and yet base their “advanced soul” message to us mortals on empty platitudes and pseudo-lofty ideals. Your faux spirituality is a curse upon these pages.
And, pray tell, what misogynistic spirit do you channel when you begin your comment with a vituperative attack on women and their rights? Why single out women in your attack, when you could have chosen the Insurance industry, Blue Dogs, Republicans, forced-childbirth zealots, or Obama for his laissez-faire healthcare leadership? What makes you misogynist, O holy New Ager? Mother issues maybe? Any quotes for us now that don’t induce nausea and snickering?
Good Morning Jon and Firedogs,
I happen to think this is all a fairly naked wooing of the Village. Brownstein is considered a journalist’s journalist (think I just threw up a little) who wrote a “very serious piece” on a “very serious issue” that oh by the way, isn’t too far off from WH pov – and presto ! – expect to see some all but fawning and laudatory posts on WH HCR in the very near future
same deal with inviting Freidman to last night’s State Dinner – mr wrong about everything given the very serious nod a week before WH makes their pitch on escalation – hmmmm
Rahm is an ass, but is making the right move for his boss here – not that it takes much with these intellectually lazy simps – it’s like watching a dog cycle it’s leg in the air when you rub a certain spot on it’s tummy
Again, who is Rahm Emanuel in relationship to corporate America—Wall Street, K Street, crony capitalism, the big banks, the health care industry.
Here is a snapshot of his top corporate contributors:
Securities & Investment $1,600,542 Lawyers/Law Firms $740,518 Real Estate $341,125 Commercial Banks $276,350 Health Professionals $251,850 Misc Finance $244,500 Insurance $238,750
And this only compasses election cycles going back to 2004.
Why then should we be surprised when people like him back legislation and policies that all but abandon Main Street concerns?
From Brownstein to Emanuel to Summers to Geithner to Obama. And from them to Baucus and Reid and Pelosi and all the rest of the Democrats [hardly just the Blue Dogs!!] who campaigned on changing the way things work in Washington. Instead they have produced this appalling reflection of precisely the way things have always worked there. It’s relly not hard to connect the dots here. They couldn’t possibly be more glaring.
Go to the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC on line. Howard Dean, sitting in for her last night, clearly exposes just how fraudulent this “reform” legislation has been to date.
I say this: Wean yourself off the ludicrous notion that this is a Democrat vs. Republican debate in Congress. That is only applicable if you accept the abandonment by the DLC Democrats of any real attempt to push a single-payer, Medicare for all reform plan. This is instead a plan in which over and again the “liberals” caved in to Wall Street and now are basically saying, “well, it’s better than the Republican’s right?”
Yeah, maybe. But that’s like saying heart disease is better than cancer.
new post upstairs…
This corrupt idea that there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between the Dems and the GOP was trotted out in 2000. Remind me, how did that work out?
Seeing $$ amounts described as 100 billions,half a trillion etc. of potential cost savings possible to achieve in current American healthcare regime practices which remain oddly ignored by this Congress and WH seems to be a very big clue as to true thrust of this so called reform.
As seen with how Wall Street and Big Banking fared during last quarter of 2008 going into first two quarters of 2009 clearly the $$ going to the top and not elsewhere seems the general rule of play.
Barack Obama declared early on that any healthcare reform must be held below a Federal trillion $$ and paid for over ten years and yet as JW lays it out above the current healthcare regime could easily be made to yield 100s of billions $$ or trillion plus $$ by process of reform,reset and imposed curbs and take aways. In theory these amounts could either offset Federal ten year spending costs or be added to Federal ten year spending to effect wider reforms. Odd how this is overlooked by Obama WH or the Congress? Or maybe not in view of how TARP Funds were disbursed?
More and more at this point it appears doing real reform as in introduction of Medicare For All and attendant cost/wealth transfer shiftbacks was never at middle of this so called reform.
As JW relates above it is either deep set willed ignorance or more likely deliberate choice made that will void possible real American healthcare cost savings/profits reduction by Obama WH and the D Party leaders in Congress.
Hopefully the consequences for this level of venal politics will be real and Barack Obama and more than a few Ds in Congress will come to understand they could have been great reformers but failed for lack of integrity,honesty or sincerity. Barack Obama in particular spent much of 2008 selling himself to be what he plainly is or was not. One WH term for him seems in order just on that score alone.
The top WH occupants are not working to improve life for We the People. We are stuck with them for three more years, and we will have to fight on a daily basis for whatever crumbs we can get. Isn’t it time to also begin some longer-range planning with the goal of getting an administration in the WH that will work toward improving our lives?
What?
As far as “free market economagic” is concerned, the problem is that a transaction for health is not exactly yer basic “free market” economic transaction, which is why I agree, to see those words used in any sort of serious manner involved with health care reform is very alarming.
In a standard economic transaction, a fully knowing and willing customer with money comes to the merchant, looks over the merchandise knowing full well the difference between an okay product and a superior one and they then do business. With health care, none of those conditions apply.
“Econmagic” is a silly, half-assed, wishful thinking pile ‘a bullcrap!
Rahm: both venal AND stupid.
I hate to point out the obvious, but wouldn’t the first question be what it was about Brownstein’s article caught the President’s eye? Does anyone know why the WH staff was told to read the article? Mr. Walker and everyone else seems to just assume the President thought it was thoroughly brilliant. Aren’t there plenty of more nuanced reasons?
Sorry to say that all this work for HCR with a strong PO will have been a waste of time.
The 40 rethuglicon senators and 4 conserva-dems from the great state of Aetna will get their way. They are gonna gut HCR efforts like a dead hog and turn the PO into nothing more than a government mandate that forces every citizen to buy health insurance or get fined.
And what will the American public do after this farce plays out? Nothing – except buy the mandated health insurance like good little lemmings.
The reality check for the majority of Americans who are being stand-still, do-nothing, demand-nothing bed-wetting pussies about HCR and a PO will come when they open their premium notices in about 18 months. Then they will piss and moan, squak and shit like a bunch of sea gulls and if they can afford it, pay the annual extortion that gives less coverage and higher copays than they have now. Need proof? Remember when gasoline was 50 cents a gallon? Whats happened since then? Besides pissing and moaning not very much…
In the mean time, Americans dying for lack of health insurance will rise from 122 per day by at least 10% a year. An what will the “home of the brave” citizens do then? Blame everybody but themselves, keep paying the extortion if they can and keep dying in increasing numbers…
Americans always get just what they deserve…
From TalkingPointsMemo’s Rahm Orders Health Care Article Be Must-Read For Staffers (Nov 24, 2009) by Christina Bellantoni:
Still, from what I understand of this Brownstein’s post making the rounds through the White House, I think the focus on Rahm is appropriate.
Jon,
Your work on hcr and issues like the lack of sufficiently strong risk adjustment mechanisms is excellent.
If real reform were Rahm’s goal, he would make your posts required reading for all White House staffers.
There you people go again pounding on Rahm. He’s the best thing we have going in Washington…at least in my opinion.
God, we are so screwed.
If this man who campaigned (according to Plouffe) with the goal of representing the middle class, healthcare reform, etc can go so far astray so quickly…
We are fucked.
You are too kind, sir.
The second to last paragraph of Jon Walker’s post consists almost exclusively of “ifs”: If we implemented progressive solutions like drug reimportation.. allow Medicare to directly negotiate for drug prices… allowed the government to negotiate drug prices…”
While the last paragraph consists of “should have beens” that, admittedly’were not even considered in Congress.”
At least the Brownstein article addresses what’s currently on the table. It seems to me that the only relevant question for progressives is whether or not any version likely to come out of this Congress is worthy of support or justifies active opposition.
I’m not an expert and have to rely on trusted experienced professionals like Howard Dean, who now says there’s really no insurance reform left in the legislation. And I’ve never been convinced that a Public Option available to only 2, 6 or 8 million is going to have much effect on cost containment.
So, if that is the case, what we’re looking at is a program that requires public participation, with few or no controls on either costs or benefits but is heavily subsidized so the consumer will be unconcerned about cost, while continuously demanding greater benefits. In effect, turning the public into citizen lobbyists for ever-greater insurance industry profits. In other words, a perpetual raid on the treasury that even banksters would envy.
If progressives believe that a small-based public option can eventually evolve into a single-payer plan, they’re dreaming. Big Health is too powerful now; they’ll become as untouchable as SSI when this bill becomes law.
No, it doesn’t. It cites Rahm by name as approving of this, not Obama. So prove your point already.
Thanks for the weigh-in! You make a perfect reverse barometer.
Thanks for the link! That’s what I wanted SiW to provide, but he was too lazy to do so.
Not sure what you are talking about. This is the first paragraph of the article:
When President Obama likes a magazine article, White House staffers had better read it.
This is the third:
Politico noted today that Obama found the article, which lauds Max Baucus approach to health care, a good summary of the cost controls in the health care bill.
First paragraph from Politico:
Sources say President Obama declared that a Saturday blog post by Ronald Brownstein on The Atlantic’s “Politics” channel — on how health reform would control costs — was mandatory reading for all senior staff and that everyone involved in, or covering, the health care debate should see the piece, headlined: “A Milestone In the Health Care Journey”:
Phoenix Woman, I believe you were also the one a few weeks ago who asked me to find a link for my obvious point that Gore had used states rights as part of his argument to win the Presidency. It was not a hard link to find, of course. But I continue to believe asking for links to prove obvious points is a lazy debating technique and a waste of my time.
There sure seem to be a lot of *unusual* opinions popping out of the woodwork from folks I’ve never seen comment at FDL, lately . . . . glad to see regular Pups’ general reactions to it all.
*G*
This piece should be required reading for everyone in the White House. Thank you Jon.
Some Rolling Stones for the moment:
“Salt Of The Earth”
from Beggar’s Banquet
Funny how these things keep coming around, that album came out in 1969.
More preaching to the choir about how much better single payer is…I agree and so does the president. But the way we get from here to there is with a public option that we “don’t exaggerate the importance of”, until after a few years it’s opened up to everyone and in a few more years we’re well on the way to single payer. You can demand we become France overnight, I generally wish we could too, but it might be easier to just move there.
You point out some things missing from Brownstein’s post, but you don’t really deal with or challenge the bulk of what he said.
… and, fwiw, I believe I read somewhere (T.R. Reid? don’t remember) that the Swiss system is the second-most-expensive in the world, next to ours, of course. It’s still significantly cheaper than ours, and it’s also the second-most expensive. And as you say, that’s our model (except ours will be yet more expensive). Oy.
Question about Medicare rates. There’s a lot of talk about how Medicare rates themselves are too low, as would be Medicare + 5. I have some sympathy for that argument, but it’s largely uninformed sympathy. Can anyone weigh in on the adequacy of current Medicare rates, and what overhauls, if any, are necessary? If any such overhauls were incorporated, what numbers would we be looking at? TIA, g
Really? I thought all the Brownstein article did was add stink to some of the worst bullshit coming out of Congress. I guess if you like the smell of bullshit, then the Brownstein article is just right for you.
Thanks for highlighting Jon’s last two paragraphs, which I understood to be about how the Brownstein article provides cover for Congress’s garbage rather than call the garbage out as being the product of those who “don’t even understand the nature of the problem.”
As for what to do from here, I have to defer to Jane.
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The truth is that Medicare (CMS) varies across specialties, procedures, locations, etc. There are about 50,000 ICD-9M codes for reimbursement, so you can well imagine a wide range of variables. 5% increase for many GPs isn’t enough to make a difference. However, certainty of payment in 2 weeks is a big positive over many private insurers which I’ve seen take 6 months and multiple submissions.
We’re working on new medical device, and until we are further along we literally can only guess the reimbursement rate. We look like an _____ but may be judged a _____, in which case we could get more or less. We’re writing big five figure checks to reimbursement consultants to “analyze” (guess) for us, that we can present to our investors to justify our valuation for next round of funding.
We’ve met with many people who complain that they’re severely under reimbursed by Medicare. One of my neighbors, who is a cardiology resident at a county hospital reimbursed mostly by Medicare, was working 80 hour weeks complaining he was making less than the McDonald’s shift manager.
My analytical view is that Medicare fraud prevention was unfunded during the Bush years because it was categorized as “regulatory compliance” or some such nonsense. Rep Pete Stark (D-CA) included $1 billion in HR3692 for medicare fraud prevention to capture the $50-60+ billion a year in medicare fraud shown on 60 Minutes.
My other view is that much of end of life heroics documented on the recent 60 Minutes, $40K in last 2 months of life on average, is something the end of life counseling is designed to reduce. I’ve been through something similar with a chronically ill parent and I think it’s a well advised for all concerned.
Another great piece, Jon. If only you’d do one analyzing how much could be saved by passing and implementing HR 676. I know it’s not news because HR 676 isn’t “on the table.” But maybe a few articles showing that it would save Trillions over a 10 years would get it there?
One of the biggest finance benefits from single payer is that the government is clearly the central reimbursement negotiator. Comparing very highly regulated non-profit sickness funds systems with a central government reimbursement negotiator (all payer systems like Germany and Belgium) with medicare-for-all style single payer systems (Canada) and there is very little price difference.
The real money saves comes for fully intergrated evidence based socialized health care system like the UK or our VA system.
I agree, Jon. But, aren’t you begging my question?
i don’t see how you can distinguish the cost savings from the administrative/insurance side vs the cost savings from the reimbursement negotiator side with this comparison. confounding factors.